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Dunner44
04-27-2006, 09:41 PM
Anyone keeping tabs on the Dragons game? Playing the boys from Peoria, my roommate's home town. I filpped on the radio and the score stood at 3-2 in the 5th (maybe?). The Dragons had loaded the bases w/ 0 outs and then blew it. How has Paulie looked?

flyer85
04-27-2006, 09:48 PM
Wilson vs Williams could turn into a battle royale

Buckeye33
04-27-2006, 09:49 PM
Wilson so far.

6 IP 6 H 3 R 3 K 1 HR

He is still pitching in the 7th inning.

Dragons are losing 3-2.

Aronchis
04-27-2006, 09:52 PM
Don't forget about Claussen and the Lizard, maybe throwing in Germano as well. It will be quite a battle to see who gets rocked the worst.

I guess Paulie is struggling to get his fastball over 83.

flyer85
04-27-2006, 10:15 PM
I guess Paulie is struggling to get his fastball over 83.first one to 85 wins

BuckWoody
04-27-2006, 10:26 PM
first one to 85 wins
http://www.alles.or.jp/~jit/snickers.gif
Not going anywhere for a while?

CTA513
04-27-2006, 10:32 PM
So far its 7 Innings, 10 Hits, 6 Runs (5 Earned), 1 HR, 0 BB, 4 Ks

flyer85
04-27-2006, 10:38 PM
The Reds have ~4 options for the 5th starter and none of them are any good. When Williams is done with his flame out it will be interesting to see where they go. Wilson is not an answer. DanO signings, the gifts that keep on giving

KronoRed
04-27-2006, 10:44 PM
So far its 7 Innings, 10 Hits, 6 Runs (5 Earned), 1 HR, 0 BB, 4 Ks
Ahh...getting gim used to what happens in the big leagues.

2001MUgrad
04-27-2006, 11:28 PM
I'm sure he won't be great his first time out. If he returns to half his form he had before, he is twice the option of Dave Williams.

Shaknb8k
04-27-2006, 11:32 PM
I know position players have a max. games they can play for a rehab stent. What is the max a pitcher can stay in the minors for rehab starts?

KySteveH
04-27-2006, 11:34 PM
I know position players have a max. games they can play for a rehab stent. What is the max a pitcher can stay in the minors for rehab starts?
30 days for pitchers, 20 for position players. A team can petition for more time, and it is sometimes granted.

flyer85
04-27-2006, 11:35 PM
I'm sure he won't be great his first time out. If he returns to half his form he had before, he is twice the option of Dave Williams.2x0 = 0

Team Clark
04-27-2006, 11:36 PM
They need to petition Paul to retire.

MartyFan
04-27-2006, 11:42 PM
They need to petition Paul to retire.

I agree...sad that his arm problems kept him from his potential but what a warrior to keep fighting...but he needs to stop.

flyer85
04-27-2006, 11:43 PM
They need to petition Paul to retire.Maybe Paul will see the light in the near future, hopefully the Reds will do the same.

jnwohio
04-28-2006, 12:28 AM
Maybe Paul will see the light in the near future, hopefully the Reds will do the same.

They have been saying for over a month that he throwing without pain and it is just a matter of him regaining game speed. I'd think if he doesn't pick up speed in this rehab that would be a cue to hang them up.

KronoRed
04-28-2006, 12:28 AM
Doubt he quits, last year of his deal and all..he'll give it a go till the arm falls off.

George Foster
04-28-2006, 12:41 AM
I'm sure he won't be great his first time out. If he returns to half his form he had before, he is twice the option of Dave Williams.

If I remember my 8 grade algebra, 2 X 0 = 0 Twice of nothing is still nothing.

savafan
04-28-2006, 01:41 AM
Ah, minor league rehab starts. Ravenlord and I once saw Jimmy Haynes pitch a rehab start for the Dragons. RL and I were rooting for Jimmah to get rocked so that the Reds would see just how pathetic a pitcher he was, but instead, he went out and pitched lights out. Not long after, he returned to the Reds rotation and got rocked.

Perhaps things will work out the other way for Wilson? Probably not, but I will pray that it does.

MWM
04-28-2006, 02:14 AM
I wouldn't quit if I were him until after the season. At that point he'll be forced to because he won't even get a spring invite.

If he quits now he gives several million dollars. I don't think anyone in their right could expect the guy to do that.

Ron Madden
04-28-2006, 03:51 AM
To Paul Wilsons credit He will die trying.

I will always respect him for that.

Sometimes things just dont go according to plan.

I will never blame Wilson for signing his contract.

I wonder why that contract was offered in the first place.

It's time to move on.

BuckWoody
04-28-2006, 09:22 AM
I really wanted to go to the game last evening and check him out but I called all of my friends and he couldn't make it. :(

It looks pretty bleak for him righ now but I'm not ready to write him off just yet. It was his first real game action since last June (unless you count extended spring training). He's got 29 more days, let's see how his next few starts work out for him. You know that if Paul doesn't make it all the way back it will NOT be from lack of effort.

TC81190
04-28-2006, 09:28 AM
He got no fastball. Refine those secondary pitches, or learn the knuckler, but I say he's forked.

Chip R
04-28-2006, 10:07 AM
I wouldn't quit if I were him until after the season. At that point he'll be forced to because he won't even get a spring invite.

I dunno. Maybe MIL will invite him to ST. ;)

Dunner44
04-28-2006, 12:16 PM
I wish I could quit you Paul.... http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00226/Brokeback_Mountain_226874m.jpg

He had one good year, and I obsess... seriously, whats wrong with me?

BuckWoody
04-28-2006, 01:20 PM
Looks like it's Brokeback joke day here at RedsZone. :)

I read this little blurb from Tom Archdeacon in today's Dayton Daily:

From every aspect, the veteran Cincinnati Reds pitcher was the focal point of the night: During the game which Dayton lost to Peoria, 6-2 and after, when he treated the entire team to steak dinners brought in from Outback.

Pretty nice gesture on Paul's part, I thought. :thumbup:

flyer85
04-28-2006, 01:23 PM
Pretty nice gesture on Paul's part, I thought. :thumbup:From all accounts I've ever read Paul is an all-around good guy. Just one whose had too many injuries and surgeries to pitch effectively anymore.

redsmetz
04-28-2006, 01:35 PM
Here's an interesting thought...

Paul Wilson is the same age Tommy John was when he returned after his famous surgery. Now granted, this is Wilson second surgery, as I recall.

Here's the story from today's Post about the game with a bit more detailed assessment. I'm not overwhelmed with the results, but Reds brass have some interesting things to say (although I suspect at times that if Dr. K was the surgeon for the Knight in Monty Python's Holy Grail, he'd concur with his assessment that "it's just a flesh wound").

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060428/SPT05/604280321/1027

I hope Wilson can make it back. I like him and I like his moxy. I don't know that he will make it back, but in my opinion, he's a smart pitcher and a recovered Paul Wilson would help this club. I'm not betting the ranch on it, but I'm hoping he can.

BuckWoody
04-28-2006, 01:44 PM
So who's the editor who looked through all the pictures of the game and decided this (http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoom.pbs&Site=AE&Date=20060428&Category=SPT05&ArtNo=604280321&Ref=V2&Profile=1027) was the one they needed for the story? :eek:

redsmetz
04-28-2006, 01:47 PM
So who's the editor who looked through all the pictures of the game and decided this (http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoom.pbs&Site=AE&Date=20060428&Category=SPT05&ArtNo=604280321&Ref=V2&Profile=1027) was the one they needed for the story? :eek:

Yeah, that was a strange picture!

registerthis
04-28-2006, 01:50 PM
I agree...sad that his arm problems kept him from his potential but what a warrior to keep fighting...but he needs to stop.

He can go be a warrior for someone else. I want a pitcher, not a warrior.

KittyDuran
04-28-2006, 01:55 PM
So who's the editor who looked through all the pictures of the game and decided this (http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoom.pbs&Site=AE&Date=20060428&Category=SPT05&ArtNo=604280321&Ref=V2&Profile=1027) was the one they needed for the story? :eek:
The oddest thing about all the pictures (including the ones that the Enquirer had was seeing Paul w/o the facial hair - per the minors guidelines.

Fullboat
04-28-2006, 05:24 PM
Why not use Wilson in the bullpen?.He might have D.Williams type speed 85 and lower
but he is a smarter pitcher.

M2
04-28-2006, 05:35 PM
I don't care what the Reds are paying Wilson. They owe it to us fans not to trot a guy who's overmatched in Low A onto a major league mound.

Chip R
04-28-2006, 05:43 PM
I don't care what the Reds are paying Wilson. They owe it to us fans not to trot a guy who's overmatched in Low A onto a major league mound.

Actually they owe it to Wilson. About $3.7M.

traderumor
04-28-2006, 05:45 PM
But, but, but, it was a rehab start...he was working on stuff...he tested his stamina...

I say we start putting an egg in a catcher's mitt to test if we allow a guy to ever take the mound in a Reds' uniform. If the guy can't break it, he's gone. Go see the secretary for your last check and get out of here. First up, Wilson, then Williams.

2001MUgrad
04-30-2006, 04:01 PM
Maybe Paul will see the light in the near future, hopefully the Reds will do the same.

You have a better option or would you rather see Dave Williams out there?? You gotta fight with what you brought, its not like Randy Johnson or Pedro Martinez is an option.