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red-in-la
04-28-2006, 11:46 PM
I guess run-differential is really important.....go figure.

Cardinal announcers are making HUGE deal out of a meaningless Pujols HR with the Cards down 8-2. Tells you what they think is important.

Anyway, 16-7 is pretty unbelieveable for a team with the worst defense and the worst pitching in baseball......again....go figure.

I started this thread to see how everybody feels about the current team and their record. All comments are welcome.:beerme:

GIK
04-28-2006, 11:49 PM
From Yahoo:
"The crowd of 32,089 fans included 9,756 who bought tickets at the gate before the game, a sign of growing interest in the Reds."

vaticanplum
04-28-2006, 11:59 PM
Close it! close it! Jinx aahhhh!!!!

redsfan30
04-29-2006, 12:02 AM
Here's to hoping this thread is still alive and well come September!!

:beerme:

George Foster
04-29-2006, 12:03 AM
If we can go 9 games over .500 for the rest of the year...we win 90 games. We are half way there in freekin' April...wow! :thumbup:

oneupper
04-29-2006, 12:03 AM
Does this mean we're not leading in the Wild Card anymore?

membengal
04-29-2006, 12:05 AM
It's just fun to see winning baseball back in Cincy again, warts and all. The nice part is that there are signs that some manner of success is sustainable in that Harang, Arroyo and Claussen are legit starters, and Coffey/Mercker/Weathers are competent in the pen. Add in a deep offense, and we can certainly entertain hope that they can make a run toward .500 or better and maybe even be Wild Card factors late enough in the year to keep interest.

And...having EE and Phillips on this team, along with Lopez and Dunn of course, makes one borderline giddy about the foreseeable future. Not to mention a GM who has a clue. All good things.

KronoRed
04-29-2006, 12:05 AM
Does this mean we're not leading in the Wild Card anymore?
The WC is for losers:cool:

toledodan
04-29-2006, 12:08 AM
If we can go 9 games over .500 for the rest of the year...we win 90 games. We are half way there in freekin' April...wow! :thumbup:



just play .500 ball and we are at 90 wins. that is kinda scary to think about.:thumbup:

Red in Chicago
04-29-2006, 12:08 AM
weathers scares me as a closer, despite converting most of his opportunities...williams scares me as a starter...dunn, lopez and encarnacion scare me in the field...i'd like to see management acquire another top pitcher...open up the purse strings while we're still in the hunt...act now, not later...i'm certainly enjoying it while it lasts...

kaldaniels
04-29-2006, 12:23 AM
weathers scares me as a closer, despite converting most of his opportunities...williams scares me as a starter...dunn, lopez and encarnacion scare me in the field...i'd like to see management acquire another top pitcher...open up the purse strings while we're still in the hunt...act now, not later...i'm certainly enjoying it while it lasts...


Milton/Williams are the weak link right now. Weathers has been good. Not phony good like Graves (perfect on save opp. but always cuts it close.) Weathers overall has been strong.

red-in-la
04-29-2006, 12:25 AM
A slopball-groundball pitcher like Weathers is probably more suited to GAB than a 94 mph power closer. Keeping the ball at or below the knees is the key to GAB pitching.

PickOff
04-29-2006, 12:35 AM
What is most in the Reds favor this year is the lack of high quality NL teams. When you look at the Reds and compare them to other teams like Houston, New York, St Louis, Atlanta, and Chicago, the only teams that really scare you are New York and St Louis. The wild card is Clemons and whatever moves may happen at the deadline. Scary thing is with this team is, no Junior in the last 10 games. Add in Griffey, execute a trade for a starter and/or reliever, and this team can compete all year long in this weak NL.

Newport Red
04-29-2006, 12:37 AM
The WC is for losers:cool:

Please, please, please!! Let me be one of those losers in October. :)

George Foster
04-29-2006, 12:49 AM
just play .500 ball and we are at 90 wins. that is kinda scary to think about.:thumbup:


not quite right...I said we have to go another 9 games over .500 to win 90 games. We are already half-way there. 90-72 is 18 games over .500

toledodan
04-29-2006, 12:57 AM
not quite right...I said we have to go another 9 games over .500 to win 90 games. We are already half-way there. 90-72 is 18 games over .500



my bad! i got to quit drinking so much.:D

Phhhl
04-29-2006, 01:02 AM
I guess run-differential is really important.....go figure.

Cardinal announcers are making HUGE deal out of a meaningless Pujols HR with the Cards down 8-2. Tells you what they think is important.

Anyway, 16-7 is pretty unbelieveable for a team with the worst defense and the worst pitching in baseball......again....go figure.

I started this thread to see how everybody feels about the current team and their record. All comments are welcome.:beerme:

What is our run differential at the moment?

djsauter
04-29-2006, 01:22 AM
It's a great day.

NastyBoy
04-29-2006, 01:37 AM
Fast starts don't necessarily mean championships, but the Reds are in first place and off to great. So, I started to thinking about the 1990 team that started off 9-0 and how some other notible Reds team started their seasons.

1919 Reds 15-8
1939 Reds 13-10
1940 Reds 17-6
1961 Reds 13-10
1970 Reds 17-6
1972 Reds 10-13
1973 Reds 15-8
1975 Reds 12-11
1976 Reds 13-10
1979 Reds 12-11
1981 Reds 12-11
1990 Reds 18-5 (23-7 after 30 games)
1994 Reds 15-8
1995 Reds 13-10
1999 Reds 9-14

Reds1
04-29-2006, 01:41 AM
That 90 team sure was special. Also, look at 99. What a terrible start and we just needed 1 more win.

I'm loving it right now. I'm starting to think maybe we only need 2 pitchers to truly compete instead of 4. Go Reds.

savafan
04-29-2006, 01:49 AM
From Yahoo:
"The crowd of 32,089 fans included 9,756 who bought tickets at the gate before the game, a sign of growing interest in the Reds."

Like I posted in another thread, I tried to get tickets for tomorrow's game and was turned away, told that it was sold out. The passion for Reds' baseball is quickly returning.

Henry Clay
04-29-2006, 01:50 AM
I'm starting to think maybe we only need 2 pitchers to truly compete instead of 4.

I hope Wayne Krivsky doesn't share your thought. If the Reds are going to compete, as opposed to being merely competitive at points during the season, they will need another solid starter. Harang and Arroyo are solid. Claussen could be great, but he could also be a .500 guy who posts a middling ERA. Williams, Milton, and the back end of the rotation could cost the Reds 2/5's of all remaining starts and tax the bullpen. I love the results so far, but I'm really hoping that this start is inspiring Krivsky, Castellini & Co. to consider making an aggressive and smart move for starting pitching. The attendance tonight, as well as the result, should give Castellini a picture of what could be in store for this team if he can find and pay for more pitching. If the Reds can find that pitching early in the season, I see a very enjoyable remainder of the 2006 season.

BoomerSoonerRed
04-29-2006, 03:54 AM
Sometimes the best seasons are the ones where everyone writes you off and leaves you for the scrap heap, only to shock the pundits.
The Reds are having that type of season, so far. And I'm enjoying every minute of it. Except for Opening Day, of course. But I would get my brains beat out on Opening Day every year if it meant we would come out of nowhere and contend for a divisional title.

GridironGrace
04-29-2006, 05:21 AM
As ive said many times in threads throughout the forums :)

15 Wins Per month.

That is my Goal. I wanna AVG 15 Wins per month. that is EXACTLY 90 Wins at the end of the season lol

15 Wins X 6 Months= 90 Wins :0

Anything OVER is Wonderful, and sets us up to AFFORD to only win 14 Games next month and still be on that pace.

MattyHo4Life
04-29-2006, 06:42 AM
Cardinal announcers are making HUGE deal out of a meaningless Pujols HR with the Cards down 8-2. Tells you what they think is important.

That meaningles home run is a big deal because it tied a record that Griffey held for most home runs by a mlb player in April. Don't for a second think that anybody would prefer that home run over a win. It isn't like the Cardinals are in last place though, and are only on home run watch like back in the McGwire days.

TeamBoone
04-29-2006, 10:17 AM
So, Oswalt wasn't feeling well I guess. He didn't look sick on the mound.


It's difficult to figure out why a pitcher would be so dominant for so long against a team that, in this day and age of Major League Baseball, has changed dramatically over the years. But figuring out why Oswalt wasn't so good Friday night takes a lot less thought. Although he wouldn't admit it, he was clearly under the weather, as evidenced by the coughing and sniffling that was prevalent while answering questions from reporters postgame.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20060428&content_id=1423011&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

MattyHo4Life
04-29-2006, 10:37 AM
So, Oswalt wasn't feeling well I guess. He didn't look sick on the mound.



http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20060428&content_id=1423011&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

I wish I could pinpoint it, but I kinda remember the same sort of excuse being used last year when the Cardinals beat up on Oswalt.

Tommyjohn25
04-29-2006, 10:49 AM
So, Oswalt wasn't feeling well I guess. He didn't look sick on the mound.



http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20060428&content_id=1423011&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

Awww, he had the sniffles. Lets cut him some slack people. :rolleyes:

Falls City Beer
04-29-2006, 10:51 AM
Roy should have eaten at Chic-fil-A. :barf:

MattyHo4Life
04-29-2006, 10:55 AM
These guys are as the Cubs are with their excuses.

Newman4
04-29-2006, 11:14 AM
Why do the writers make excuses? He pitched well. He just got beat by a team that got a good start out of their starter, nice bullpen work and some timely hits. I'm just glad the Reds got the monkey off their back and beat him for once.

Patrick Bateman
04-29-2006, 11:16 AM
Anyway, 16-7 is pretty unbelieveable for a team with the worst defense and the worst pitching in baseball......again....go figure.



Not so unbelievable when you consider our pitching and defense is not the worst in the majors.

Phillips has solidified the infield defense quite a bit.

creek14
04-29-2006, 11:18 AM
I hope this thread isn't the SI cover of RedsZone.

realistic
04-29-2006, 11:25 AM
out of curiousity ,heres a listing of teams in the past 10 years with the best record in MLB on april 29th along with thier final record that season.

2005 Cardinals 100-62
2004 Red Sox 98-64
2003 Royals 83-79
2002 Mariners 93-69
2001 Mariners 116-46
2000 Braves 95-67
1999 Indians 97-65
1998 Padres 98-64,Red Sox 92-70, Rangers 88-74
1997 Braves 101-61
1996 Expos 88-74, Padres 91-71

That 98 Padres rotation was Kevin Brown, Joey Hamilon, Andy Ashby, Sterling Hitchock, Mark Langston. Not so great. Now if the Redscould just find a Kevin Brown...

MattyHo4Life
04-29-2006, 11:39 AM
I guess run-differential isAnyway, 16-7 is pretty unbelieveable for a team with the worst defense and the worst pitching in baseball......again....go figure.

The Reds pitching is better than it has been in a long time. It isn't a great pitching staff..isn't really even good except for a couple of pitchers. The Reds have decent pitching with some incredible offense. The Cardinals have proved in the past that you can win with mediocre pitching if you hit the other team over the head with you offense. I don't like the Cubs and I don't like the Astros, so I'm glad to see the Reds have finally put together a good team. I've said it bfore, and I still think it will come down to the Reds an Cardinals this year. Possibly both making the playoffs. What would be better than a NL Championship Series of Cardinals vs Reds? Don't say the Reds winning it either. lol The Reds may be good this year, but they aren't that good. ;)

M2
04-29-2006, 12:11 PM
The key for a hot start is that you be able to consolidate your gains. I noted in a thread on the other side of the board that having pitchers like Arroyo and Harang -- guys on whom you can generally depend -- helps immensely on that front.

Yet if the rotation beyond those two continues to sport a 6.68 ERA while the bullpen carries a 4.93 ERA, then it's going to be tough to win games when your offense gets you three, four or five runs. Four of the team's last six wins were gained that way. If you start to lose those games then trouble will swiftly follow.

Anyway, this April's been a blast so far and, regardless of record, what the team's gotten from Arroyo, Coffey, Encarnacion and Phillips has been enormously encouraging.

MattyHo4Life
04-29-2006, 12:50 PM
Cardinal announcers are making HUGE deal out of a meaningless Pujols HR with the Cards down 8-2. Tells you what they think is important.

BTW...here is a bit about Pujols' home run from stlcardinals.com


Those fans who hung around until the end saw Albert Pujols hit his 13th homer of the month, which tied a Major League record for April. But the Pujols blast in the eighth brought the Cards only within five runs, which took away all the luster for Pujols, who sees no reason to celebrate homers that come in a losing cause.

"Who cares about my home run?" Pujols said. "That's not what you play for."

Hollcat
04-29-2006, 02:07 PM
not quite right...I said we have to go another 9 games over .500 to win 90 games. We are already half-way there. 90-72 is 18 games over .500

If we go .500 from this point on we finish at 85-77.
Side note, The 1990 Reds played only 2 games above .500 from the first of June through the rest of the season.

Reds Nd2
04-29-2006, 02:37 PM
I started this thread to see how everybody feels about the current team and their record. All comments are welcome.:beerme:

When I look at this teams current record, I'm reminded of the Aerosmith album Done With Mirrors. The words on the album cover were backwards so when you held it up to a mirror, everything was clear and you could read the liner notes. If you hold the Reds up to a mirror, you see a team that's currently beating every run differential metric available, some by as much as 4 games. This is a team that only surpasses one team in their division, Pittsburgh, for having the worst defensive efficiency, most runs allowed, and batting average against. While the pitching and defense may have improved from last season, it's still bad. I'm enjoying this hot start as much as anyone but I don't see the Reds being able to maintain their current pace.

KronoRed
04-29-2006, 03:50 PM
I hope this thread isn't the SI cover of RedsZone.
We'll need a live chicken to put the curse off :evil: