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GAC
05-01-2006, 09:20 PM
Smart organizations see things dumb organizations overlook.

I think that was the logic used by Dano to sign him in the first place! :lol:

Matt700wlw
05-01-2006, 09:20 PM
Pujols up again

attendance: 20,900

Heath
05-01-2006, 09:20 PM
Nah...let it ride!

If Pujois goes yard here - yeah - get someone ready.

Attendance tonight - 20,900.

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:20 PM
99 pitch count for Arroyo

He's leading off next inning too

OnBaseMachine
05-01-2006, 09:20 PM
8 great innings by Arroyo!

George Foster
05-01-2006, 09:20 PM
Hancock looks like a different pitcher since joining the Cards.

Change of scenery! Plus knowing that it might be your last chance in a Major League Uniform. I'm happy for him.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:20 PM
Pujols flies out to right. 6-1 Reds mid 8th.

Falls City Beer
05-01-2006, 09:21 PM
Bring in Coffey.

Heath
05-01-2006, 09:21 PM
let him hit - take 3 pitches - and have a seat.

I'd run'em out there in the 9th.

Oxilon
05-01-2006, 09:21 PM
0-3 tonight for Albert. Honestly, even as hot as Bronson has been, I didn't see this coming looking at his history against us.

KronoRed
05-01-2006, 09:21 PM
Coffey.

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:21 PM
Bring him back out. If he let's one man on, his day is over. I am a sucker for CG:D

GridironGrace
05-01-2006, 09:21 PM
man this is nice :)

Arroyo bringing the stuff this season :)

Falls City Beer
05-01-2006, 09:21 PM
Excellent. Unbelievably excellent start by Arroyo. That more than makes up for dropping the ball in St. Louis.

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:22 PM
Keep Arroyo in! A CG would help my fantasy team.

Matt700wlw
05-01-2006, 09:22 PM
Arroyo will hit

Heath
05-01-2006, 09:22 PM
Hey, no one but me guessed on the Attendance thread - I win!

Its a beautiful night for baseball - 20,900?? a little low IMO.

Oh well, shouldn't complain. I didn't go.

Cant Touch This
05-01-2006, 09:22 PM
As of right now, my Fantasy team (Shower Curtain Fella) is 2 for 27 tonight. Those two belong to FeLo. A special thanks goes out to David Wright, Jorge Posada, Chris Shelton, JJ Hardy, P. Polanco, Grady Sizemore, Johnny Gomes, and especially Jim Edmonds for your efforts tonight.

Alou, Brian Giles, and Ryan Howard yet to come. I'm sure they'll all wear collars tonight, too.

THNDRacket
05-01-2006, 09:22 PM
I'd let him hit. 101 pitches isn't too much. Get at least one out in the 9th.


I sure felt sorry for those two Cards fans they showed last inning. They sure looked sad!

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:22 PM
20,900 for today's Titanic struggle

KronoRed
05-01-2006, 09:23 PM
Hmm..take him out, 5 run lead and it's May..save the CG woohoo for when we need it.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:23 PM
Flores in to pitch.

Arroyo lines out to 3rd. 1 out.

CrackerJack
05-01-2006, 09:23 PM
Reds fans so elated to see a real pitcher, they give Arroyo multiple standing o's.

GridironGrace
05-01-2006, 09:23 PM
Yes run him back out there for the 9th with Coffey up in the Pen and ready.

He's pitching great stuff and still looks very confident on the mound let him wrap it up.

And He's Batting :)

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:24 PM
Freel singles to left.

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:24 PM
I predict Arroyo will pitch a 5 pitch 9th complete game

Of course, I'm never right.

Caseyfan21
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
Hmm..take him out, 5 run lead and it's May..save the CG woohoo for when we need it.

I agree but a part of me doesn't even want to take a chance with the bullpen. All it takes is a couple hits and a homerun and the Cards are right back in it. That is definately in the realm of possibility with the bullpen.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
Lopez grounds out to 3rd. Runner on 2nd. 2 outs.

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
Freel with his first hit since Tony Womack was still on the roster (TIC);)

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
I am a sucker for CG:D

So am I, man...so am I.

KronoRed
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
I predict Arroyo will pitch a 5 pitch 9th complete game

Of course, I'm never right.
You cursed him! :help:

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
I would like to see Freel running on this pitch

Edit: to FeLo not to RA

redhawkfish
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
Pujols is good!!!!

George Foster
05-01-2006, 09:25 PM
I like the fact that Narron does not over coach. He is through the tougher part of the line up, let him pitch the ninth, against the 4,5,and 6th hitter. Edmonds is the shell of what he was. is he battling an injury?

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 09:26 PM
I predict Arroyo will pitch a 5 pitch 9th complete game

Of course, I'm never right.

If you are right this time, I am flying to Cincinnati to...I dunno, thank Arroyo.

There's not much in the world I love more than a good complete game.

when this is over, someone needs to explain this multi-tasking joke to me. It's going completely over my head.

Cant Touch This
05-01-2006, 09:26 PM
RA is getting hosed on the called strike curve tonight.

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:26 PM
I think Jimmy Edmonds is battling a shoulder injury. Is that right?

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:27 PM
Aurilia strikes out swinging. 6-1 Reds after 8.

M2
05-01-2006, 09:27 PM
The Reds don't need Arroyo to pitch the 9th tonight. They've got a five-run lead and Arroyo's throw plenty. This is one of those moments where Jerry Narron needs to be playing chess instead of checkers. It's a long season and Narron doesn't need to be putting the whip to Arroyo on May 1.

flyer85
05-01-2006, 09:27 PM
RA is getting hosed on the called strike curve tonight.and swinging at bad pitches

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:27 PM
when this is over, someone needs to explain this multi-tasking joke to me. It's going completely over my head.
I feel the same way.

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:28 PM
If you are right this time, I am flying to Cincinnati to...I dunno, thank Arroyo.

There's not much in the world I love more than a good complete game.

when this is over, someone needs to explain this multi-tasking joke to me. It's going completely over my head.

It's a reference to the uber-annoying Red Roof Inn commercial.

Caseyfan21
05-01-2006, 09:28 PM
I think Jimmy Edmonds is battling a shoulder injury. Is that right?

I haven't watched the broadcast for the whole night, but I'm sure GG would have made the viewing audience aware of this excuse why Jimmy isn't up to par at the plate tonight.

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 09:28 PM
The Reds don't need Arroyo to pitch the 9th tonight. They've got a five-run lead and Arroyo's throw plenty. This is one of those moments where Jerry Narron needs to be playing chess instead of checkers. It's a long season and Narron doesn't need to be putting the whip to Arroyo on May 1.

You with your logic and foresight. complete games are much sexier.

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:28 PM
The Reds don't need Arroyo to pitch the 9th tonight. They've got a five-run lead and Arroyo's throw plenty. This is one of those moments where Jerry Narron needs to be playing chess instead of checkers. It's a long season and Narron doesn't need to be putting the whip to Arroyo on May 1.
No whip, just give him a chance to finish quick. If not, Captain Hook impression.

George Foster
05-01-2006, 09:28 PM
If you are right this time, I am flying to Cincinnati to...I dunno, thank Arroyo.

There's not much in the world I love more than a good complete game.

when this is over, someone needs to explain this multi-tasking joke to me. It's going completely over my head.

If your watching Fox sports Ohio, the goofy guy in the Red Roof Inn commericials say's that line. They show it at least 4 times a game.

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:29 PM
It's a reference to the uber-annoying Red Roof Inn commercial.
And its connection to baseball?

Patrick Bateman
05-01-2006, 09:29 PM
Hancock looks like a different pitcher since joining the Cards.

Lets see, 2 inherited runners, 2 inherited runners scored.

Nope, that's a Reds reliever.

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:29 PM
Edmonds grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 09:29 PM
Thanks for the explanation guys.

Yanks-Sox still tied in the seventh. This is the most nerve-wrecking day I've had in a while.

Caseyfan21
05-01-2006, 09:29 PM
The funny thing tonight was that after the first couple innings I figured it would be another shootout. Arroyo seemed to be up with his fastball and I thought he would get shelled. So glad I was wrong though.

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:30 PM
And it's connection to baseball?

What George Foster just said.

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:30 PM
If your watching Fox sports Ohio, the goofy guy in the Red Roof Inn commericials say's that line. They show it at least 4 times a game.
I wish it was four times.:)

smith288
05-01-2006, 09:30 PM
Arroyo is absolute FILTH tonight. FILTH I say!

Matt700wlw
05-01-2006, 09:30 PM
Arroyo the last pitcher since Jose Rijo in 1994 to pitch 8 inning 3 starts in a row....


WOW!!!

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:30 PM
Gall strikes out swinging. 4 K's for Arroyo.

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:30 PM
Got it

Matt700wlw
05-01-2006, 09:30 PM
Wily Mo who?

M2
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
and swinging at bad pitches

To his credit, he did hit a homer on a bad pitch.

Kc61
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Now that is starting pitching.

Caseyfan21
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Dunn finally made a play!

KronoRed
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Win

CrackerJack
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Nice catch by Dunn, Bronson for CY!

smith288
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Serious manlove for Arroyo...

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Quick finish by Arroyo. And this one belongs to the Reds!

OnBaseMachine
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Awesome game!

18-8!

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:31 PM
And This One Belongs To The Reds!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/db/Charles_Bronson.jpg

oneupper
05-01-2006, 09:32 PM
Nice Catch by Dunn. Got that monkey off his back!

Reds Fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:32 PM
Encarnacion flies out to left. Reds win 6-1!!!!

Great start by Arroyo: 9 IP, 4H, 1ER, 3BB, 4K.

Arroyo is now 5-0!!!!

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:32 PM
Arroyo = :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

George Foster
05-01-2006, 09:33 PM
Best trade of the Spring in all of Baseball. I'm pretty happy I must say, but then that's me!!!!!!!!!!

Falls City Beer
05-01-2006, 09:33 PM
Since technically the first month of the season isn't over I'm changing my vote to B. Arroyo for month one MVP. Biggest game of the year, CG four-hitter.

redhawkfish
05-01-2006, 09:33 PM
Arroyo's ERA is now 2.06.:thumbup:

redsfan1966
05-01-2006, 09:33 PM
I just stood up in my living room and gave Arroyo a standing ovation....very impressive...we just may have a contender

Matt700wlw
05-01-2006, 09:33 PM
Bronson Arroyo was absolutely brilliant tonight.

That trade was an absolutely terrific move!

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 09:34 PM
If Arroyo keeps this up, he is going to become a huge superstar in Cincinnati, and he will bring people to the ballpark every time he pitches. The thought of a pitcher being a hero for this team warms my ugly black heart.

membengal
05-01-2006, 09:34 PM
Should I not wear my Reds hat down there this weekend? Don't want to get beat up :D

No worries there...you might get beat up for wearing a Grizzlies hat though, we are pretty fed up with them locally...

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:34 PM
Best trade of the Spring in all of Baseball. I'm pretty happy I must say, but then that's me!!!!!!!!!!
If we could get Arroyo to do his hair like Ed, we would have something there George!;)

Unassisted
05-01-2006, 09:35 PM
I got to see the last 5 outs. Nice to see the fans stick around to salute Arroyo at the end of the game.

Krivsky's halo got a little shinier tonight. ;)

Joseph
05-01-2006, 09:35 PM
My wife is currently walking thru the house chanting, "We're number 1, we're number 1."

joshnky
05-01-2006, 09:35 PM
This offense is amazing from top to bottom. It seems like every time I've check the box score this season 1-8 have all contributed.

SanDiegoRed
05-01-2006, 09:35 PM
Wayne Krivisky for President! What a couple of trades he made!

redsfan1966
05-01-2006, 09:36 PM
how come more dont use the chat feature...i would love to get some reds discussion going there...

flynn78
05-01-2006, 09:36 PM
My wife is currently walking thru the house chanting, "We're number 1, we're number 1."
Does she have a sister?;)

THNDRacket
05-01-2006, 09:36 PM
109 pitches for Arroyo and under no pressure at all.

Elizardo had something like 116 pitches in 6 innings yesterday.

Sham
05-01-2006, 09:38 PM
My wife is currently walking thru the house chanting, "We're number 1, we're number 1."

That's a keeper.

Aronchis
05-01-2006, 09:38 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:39 PM
Bronson Arroyo = http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Aceofspades.png/180px-Aceofspades.png

Joseph
05-01-2006, 09:39 PM
Does she have a sister?;)

No, but her mom's tired of her dad if that helps. ;)

Kidding.

Matt700wlw
05-01-2006, 09:39 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.

Really...

pedro
05-01-2006, 09:40 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.

Can't enjoy it for 5 minutes can we?

griffeyfreak4
05-01-2006, 09:40 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.
Bull

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:40 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.

109 pitches is not that many. It's just 12 pitches per inning.

joshnky
05-01-2006, 09:40 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.
Way to be positive. If you can't be excited about the Reds right now you need to find a new team.

toledodan
05-01-2006, 09:40 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.


:mooner: :mooner: :mooner: :mooner: :mooner: :mooner: :mooner:


man don't kill a good thing:D even though you may be right.:help:

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:41 PM
No, but her mom's tired of her dad if that helps. ;)

Kidding.

How old is mom? ;)

wheels
05-01-2006, 09:41 PM
Wow.

It's still feeling like bizarro world, but pitchers going deep, or completing games is starting to feel a bit hum drum.

Hum drum feels good.

M2
05-01-2006, 09:42 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.

I don't know if he will be burned out or not, but every unnecessary pitch you throw is another one too many.

toledodan
05-01-2006, 09:43 PM
Bronson Arroyo = http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Aceofspades.png/180px-Aceofspades.png






SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Falls City Beer
05-01-2006, 09:43 PM
Anything can happen. But I'm not counting on Arroyo crapping out unless there's something wrong with him physically. I suspect that if he's healthy, he'll be fine.

Bob Borkowski
05-01-2006, 09:43 PM
109 pitches is not that many. It's just 12 pitches per inning.


He just said on the TV brooadcast that it was the easiest game he's had all year.:)

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 09:44 PM
But I'm not counting on Arroyo crapping out unless there's something wrong with him physically. I suspect that if he's healthy, he'll be fine.

...and in the past he's been pretty durable.

(Everything I type these days, I have to knock on wood.)

lollipopcurve
05-01-2006, 09:44 PM
Fun ballgame -- Arroyo made it look easy.

flyer85
05-01-2006, 09:44 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.why, will he be tired of winning. Tonight was a cakewalk. He only had one inning with any stress at all(the 2nd).

flyer85
05-01-2006, 09:45 PM
Bronson has pitched at least 8IP three straight games.

Last Reds pitcher to do that was Rijo in 1994

RBA
05-01-2006, 09:45 PM
I was impressed with Arroyo fielding today. He made it look easy.

Cant Touch This
05-01-2006, 09:45 PM
Well, it's been fun guys and gals, but I have a date with Joseph's wife.

Patrick Bateman
05-01-2006, 09:46 PM
Arroyo will be burned out by June.

We are used to pitchers throwing 5-6 innings on a good day, throwing 100 or so pitches.

109 pitches in 9 innings, relatively stress free, is actually a pretty easy night.

A major league starter could do that every start with little effort.

It's those 30 pitch innings that wear on a pitcher, or a 130-140 pitch night.

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:46 PM
I was impressed with Arroyo fielding today. He made it look easy.

I agree. He could be a Gold Glove-caliber pitcher.

flyer85
05-01-2006, 09:47 PM
We are used to pitchers throwing 5-6 innings on a good day, throwing 100 or so pitches.

109 pitches in 9 innings, relatively stress free, is actually a pretty easy night. 100 pitches in 9 is a lot less stressful than 80-90 in 5.


It's those 30 pitch innings that wear on a pitcherwithout a doubt

membengal
05-01-2006, 09:48 PM
Arroyo the last pitcher since Jose Rijo in 1994 to pitch 8 inning 3 starts in a row....


WOW!!!

Oof. Really? Huh. And the baseball gods punished Reds fans for their temerity in having a real starting pitcher by canceling that season, let's hope the gods are nicer this time around.

And, I agree with others herein, Arroyo was indeed absoultely filthy tonight. I have never seen a pitcher on the Reds with his array of stuff that I can recall, and my rooting days go back to about 1975 as a four-year-old.

M2
05-01-2006, 09:49 PM
Anything can happen. But I'm not counting on Arroyo crapping out unless there's something wrong with him physically. I suspect that if he's healthy, he'll be fine.

Yeah, but that's the concern. Pitcher throws more pitches than he has to and that's when he's more likely to have something pop in his arm. Even if that doesn't happen, Arroyo's a control and movement guy and last year was a good example of how much excess fatigue takes away from his game. I'm pretty confident Arroyo can handle 210 IP far better than he did last year, but 240? I'm not so sure.

westofyou
05-01-2006, 09:50 PM
You know what? I really don't care. The FO gave him a regimen to follow and he blatantly ignored it, coming off of an injury plagued season. I support the FO 100% on that one.
Yep, he's a RH reliever pushing 30 who didn't follow the orders of the foks that allow him to play ball for a living.

There are loads of those guys in MLB, he should have valued his slot.

As for if he was on the Reds....2nd fattest maybe, but not 2nd best.

Falls City Beer
05-01-2006, 09:53 PM
Yeah, but that's the concern. Pitcher throws more pitches than he has to and that's when he's more likely to have something pop in his arm. Even if that doesn't happen, Arroyo's a control and movement guy and last year was a good example of how much excess fatigue takes away from his game. I'm pretty confident Arroyo can handle 210 IP far better than he did last year, but 240? I'm not so sure.

I agree for the most part. You probably shouldn't push it, but I'll agree with others that people are confusing innings pitched with pitch count. 109 pitches on May 1 isn't a whipping. Frankly, the Reds needed to send a message to the Cardinals and Bronson Arroyo is about the only Reds pitcher capable of sending said message. It was worth the extra 10 pitches, IMO.

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:54 PM
100 pitches in 9 is a lot less stressful than 80-90 in 5.

I agree 100%. There is nothing inherently wrong with a complete game, especially when the pitcher is not fatigued, and especially when he is a better option than anyone in the bullpen!

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:55 PM
I agree for the most part. You probably shouldn't push it, but I'll agree with others that people are confusing innings pitched with pitch count. 109 pitches on May 1 isn't a whipping. Frankly, the Reds needed to send a message to the Cardinals and Bronson Arroyo is about the only Reds pitcher capable of sending said message. It was worth the extra 10 pitches, IMO.

Well, maybe Aaron Harang, too.

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 09:56 PM
Freaking Mark Loretta.

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 09:56 PM
No change tonight.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Adam Dunn - 167
11. Gus Bell - 160
12. Joe Morgan - 152
12. Pete Rose - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 140
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 10:00 PM
This was only Arroyo's second career complete game. Very impressive. He seems to be really flourishing with this team in a way he would not have been given opportunity to elsewhere -- I hope he's enjoying himself.

Falls City Beer
05-01-2006, 10:02 PM
This was only Arroyo's second career complete game. Very impressive. He seems to be really flourishing with this team in a way he would not have been given opportunity to elsewhere -- I hope he's enjoying himself.

I said when they acquired him and he was "grumbling" about having to leave the Sox: he'll come around if the Reds start to contend--he'll want to be a part of an underdog uprising.

Big Klu
05-01-2006, 10:03 PM
I wonder if Arroyo had a Snack Pack waiting for him in the dugout? :D

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 10:04 PM
Freaking David Ortiz

George Foster
05-01-2006, 10:06 PM
No, but her mom's tired of her dad if that helps. ;)

Kidding.

I love M.I.L.F.'s:D

KronoRed
05-01-2006, 10:06 PM
Freaking David Ortiz
yankee fan :p:

blumj
05-01-2006, 10:09 PM
Freaking David Ortiz
Mike Myers=not the answer

Oh, and way to go, Bronson!

vaticanplum
05-01-2006, 10:11 PM
Mike Myers=not the answer

Yankees bullpen=currently devoid of answers

Falls City Beer
05-01-2006, 10:17 PM
http://img.verycd.com/posts/0509/post-336980-1127231799.jpg

This image kicks ass.

gilpdawg
05-01-2006, 10:19 PM
We are used to pitchers throwing 5-6 innings on a good day, throwing 100 or so pitches.

109 pitches in 9 innings, relatively stress free, is actually a pretty easy night.

A major league starter could do that every start with little effort.

It's those 30 pitch innings that wear on a pitcher, or a 130-140 pitch night.Agreed, Innings don't matter, pitches matter.

Tommyjohn25
05-01-2006, 10:37 PM
Easy night for Bronson, he dominated through the Cards lineup after the Home Run. No way he's burned out by mid-season if the majority of his starts are this effortless.

Ladies and Gentlemen. :thisyear:

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-01-2006, 10:39 PM
its so nice to watch a reds cards game and not have to shut your eyes when pujols comes to the plate late in the game..............also, whatever happened to that guy named griffey???

Dunner44
05-01-2006, 10:48 PM
Remember when everyone thought that Wonder Boy in Boston committed highway robbery? Sock it to em Kriv! In related news, I <3 Bronson Arroyo! If I ever make any money, I'm buying me a #61 jersey.

Heath
05-01-2006, 11:02 PM
In related news, the Los Angeles Clippers are on their way to winning an NBA series. Plus, the Reds are in first place. And, Hell's reporting frost.

toledodan
05-01-2006, 11:06 PM
In related news, the Los Angeles Clippers are on their way to winning an NBA series. Plus, the Reds are in first place. And, Hell's reporting frost.







:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

Dunner44
05-01-2006, 11:07 PM
In related news, the Los Angeles Clippers are on their way to winning an NBA series. Plus, the Reds are in first place. And, Hell's reporting frost.

Add to that the Bengals making the playoffs, and the devil better buy himself a new furnace. Damn you Kimo Von Olhoffen

SteelSD
05-01-2006, 11:28 PM
We are used to pitchers throwing 5-6 innings on a good day, throwing 100 or so pitches.

109 pitches in 9 innings, relatively stress free, is actually a pretty easy night.

A major league starter could do that every start with little effort.

It's those 30 pitch innings that wear on a pitcher, or a 130-140 pitch night.

That's a really good point.

Arroyo is averaging less than 15 Pitches per Inning. You can put a solid Inning workload on a guy like that because it's less intensive.

Heath
05-02-2006, 09:22 AM
That's a really good point.

Arroyo is averaging less than 15 Pitches per Inning. You can put a solid Inning workload on a guy like that because it's less intensive.

And a couple of those innings, he had adequate rest time, but not too much. Look at the last 3 innings. (After he was on base in the 6th).



Top 7th: St. Louis
- J. Encarnacion flied out to left
- Y. Molina grounded out to third
- A. Miles flied out to left center

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
St. Louis 1, Cincinnati 6

Top 8th: St. Louis
- H. Luna grounded out to pitcher
- D. Eckstein flied out to left
- J. Rodriguez walked
- A. Pujols flied out to right

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
St. Louis 1, Cincinnati 6

Top 9th: St. Louis
- J. Edmonds grounded out to first
- J. Gall struck out swinging
- J. Encarnacion flied out to left

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors
St. Louis 1, Cincinnati 6

One baserunner in three innings. Cruise control.

You also have to wonder what a pitcher is like after a 5 run or more inning by their team. I understand the name of the game is to score more runs than your opponent, but for a pitcher's sake - while a 9 run inning gives you a cushion, a 4 run inning, followed, up with a three run inning, and a 2 run inning, might be more beneficial to a pitcher who might be on "a roll" or in a "routine".