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TheBigLebowski
05-04-2006, 10:51 PM
This is going to be a big win for us tonight...I think we rebounded well from a disappointing result yesterday.

I can't stop thinking that this team may actually be a legit playoff caliber team, with or without Griffey. Honestly, I don't even think about him very much. This team can win without him.

TeamBoone
05-04-2006, 10:51 PM
It's awefully early to make final decisions on either of them, but this looks better then a lot of the boneheaded moves Jim Bowden put us through over the years.

Bowden? DO was much worse than Bowden and he doesn't even get a mention... has he been forgotten already?

The Baumer
05-04-2006, 10:51 PM
I must have missed Harang's dinger.

:D Edited.

RBA
05-04-2006, 10:52 PM
Lidge walks Spiezio on 4 straight pitches. 4-3 2 on 1 out top9

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2006, 10:52 PM
The new Colorado pitcher is Scott Dohman

Felipe Lopez doesn't even stick around in the batters box long enough to figure out what Scott looks like, as he grounds out routinely.

1 out on 1 pitch

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 10:53 PM
One of the Colorado announcers called Dunn's 425 foot home run "lucky" and "a flyball".

Meanwhile, Ryan Freel has crept up behind said announcer and bashed him over the head with a steel folding chair!

Four Horsemen, baby! :D

naynay
05-04-2006, 10:53 PM
He can do whatever he wants. Its a CG.

RBA
05-04-2006, 10:53 PM
David Eckstein flys out to right center. Cards down to their last out.

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 10:53 PM
So much for BP's plate discipline... and he had me all jazzed up after that 3 walk game.

KronoRed
05-04-2006, 10:53 PM
Start Olemdo at SS tomorrow

naynay
05-04-2006, 10:53 PM
Lmao Big Klu!!!!

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2006, 10:54 PM
Top 9, 1 out

Brandon Phillips up again and quickly goes into the hole 1-2. Phillips bounces over to 2nd and makes the 2nd out of the inning. Phillips is struggling a little at the dish, but everyone slumps and/or regresses to their career norms.

2 out

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 10:54 PM
Hey nobody on right now, and the run is inconsequential.. who's ready for another solo shot?

paintmered
05-04-2006, 10:54 PM
has he been forgotten already?

I'm trying.

RBA
05-04-2006, 10:54 PM
Hey nobody on right now, and the run is inconsequential.. who's ready for another solo shot?


ME!!!:beerme:

Puffy
05-04-2006, 10:54 PM
I remember that Rick Rude/Jake Roberts feuded over Roberts's then wife Cheryl, which was just supposed to be a wrestling arc, but instead turned into real life as Rude did have affair with Cheryl which turned Roberts life into a course of bad wrestling and drug addiction burnout. No wonder that feud was so good lol!!!

Same thing happened with Woman and Benoit and Kevin Sullivan. Sullivan was married to woman, did an arc with Benoit and left Sullivan for Benoit in real life (and they are still together).

And Kimberly Page and DDP are also still together.

VR
05-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Trivia time.....


Who leads the majors in strikeouts?

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Hey nobody on right now, and the run is inconsequential.. who's ready for another solo shot?

Dang, and it made so much sense.... weak fly out

naynay
05-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Harang on in the 9th. I want 14 punch outs.

The Baumer
05-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Preston Wilson says to give him a few weeks.

KronoRed
05-04-2006, 10:56 PM
Trivia time.....


Who leads the majors in strikeouts?
A good baseball player

RBA
05-04-2006, 10:56 PM
Wusston beats the deadbirds 4-3

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 10:56 PM
Trivia time.....


Who leads the majors in strikeouts?


Sean Casey.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2006, 10:56 PM
Top 9, 2 out

Adam Dunn up, looking to kill yet another inning by hitting a Solo HR. He works the count, much to the dismay of everyone who just wants to get to the airport and get the heck out of Colorado. Here's a tip Adam: On "Getaway Night" and up by a half dozen runs, take one for the team and just hack away.

Dunn flies out routinely to end the inning. What happens to Aaron Harang now?

3 outs

TeamBoone
05-04-2006, 10:56 PM
Yeah, but in their defense, the Col. announcers are giving Harang his due.

What are they saying?

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 10:57 PM
Trivia time.....


Who leads the majors in strikeouts?

Wilkerson and Gomes are 1 & 2.... Adam "I ground out to the pitcher if there are RISP" Dunn is 3rd w/ 33 (maybe 34, i don't know if its updated yet)

naynay
05-04-2006, 10:58 PM
Ryan Freel, fresh from setting upstart radio announcers in their place, is now in CF.

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 10:58 PM
Dunn tags in Freel! :D

Freel in CF, batting 3rd.
Denorfia moves from CF to LF.
Dunn out of the game.

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 10:59 PM
Deno to LF... i like it

KronoRed
05-04-2006, 10:59 PM
That like the non double double switch?

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 10:59 PM
Eli needs to quit and let Harrang K him.

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 11:00 PM
What the hell is that dinosaur in the boxseats? :eek:

oneupper
05-04-2006, 11:00 PM
What are they saying?


They have been complimenting him on his command. "Wherever LaRue puts the glove, Harang puts the pitch".

VR
05-04-2006, 11:00 PM
Wilkerson and Gomes are 1 & 2.... Adam "I ground out to the pitcher if there are RISP" Dunn is 3rd w/ 33 (maybe 34, i don't know if its updated yet)


This is uncharted for Reds fans, but I actually mean what PITCHER leads the majors in strikouts?

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:00 PM
an 9 pitch AB says maybe someone else should come in, but the tought of 3 CG before May 5 is too good to be true... we had 2 all last year.

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 11:00 PM
Get him out... Bring in Coffey

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2006, 11:01 PM
Bottom of the 9th -- Aaron Harang looking for another CG

Eli Marrero leads the inning off quickly going into the hole at 1-2. Eli works the count to 3-2, chanting "DE-CAF! DE-CAF!" and "Cut that Meat!", "Cut that Meat!" I have to imagine that if Eli reaches, that'll be all she wrote for Harang. Eli fouls a pitch off -- nothing worse than an awful hitter wasting pitches by fouling off pitches. At this point, I'd just drill him in the head and let the bullpen take over.

Eli walks. 1 on, 0 out.

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 11:01 PM
That like the non double double switch?

Yep. Just a good old-fashioned defensive substitution!

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:01 PM
This is uncharted for Reds fans, but I actually mean what PITCHER leads the majors in strikouts?

Whoops... here i thought it was Adam-bash time.... It wouldn't be Cincy's ace, would it?

The Baumer
05-04-2006, 11:01 PM
Momma always said to choo yo' food.

Falls City Beer
05-04-2006, 11:01 PM
It's straight hood to leave Harang in there.

naynay
05-04-2006, 11:01 PM
12 K's.

paintmered
05-04-2006, 11:01 PM
Get him out... Bring in Coffey

Nah, not in a blowout.

harangatang
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
Whoops... here i thought it was Adam-bash time.... It wouldn't be Cincy's ace, would it?
Arroyo?;)

KronoRed
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
He's out :clap:

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
Great game Harrang... Great Game

:beerme: :beerme: :beerme:

Wheelhouse
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
Harang lifted after a K

oneupper
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
121 pitches for Harang after the Freeman K.

Narron pulls him..good job, Aaron!

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
Rack up another K for Aaron... tired? nah! BTW, i love this line from the gamecast: With Choo Freeman batting, Eli Marrero advances to 2nd on defensive indifference.

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
I absolutely love the lost art known as the complete game, but Narron is making the right move now.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Bottom 9, 1 on, 0 out

Choo "My Parents Hate Me" Freeman bats as a pinch hitter. Eli takes 2nd on catcher's indifference. Freeman swings and misses on a strike 3 pitch for Harang's 12th strikeout of the game.

That'll be all she wrote for Aaron Harang tonight -- it's too bad that Eli Marrero ruined it for him. Write his name on the "Drill with a Todd Coffey Fastball" whiteboard in the dugout for next time.

Pitching change time.

The Baumer
05-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Marrero is Spanish for "party pooper".

Wheelhouse
05-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Bravo Harang:rockband:

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Nah, not in a blowout.


I don't ever recall harrang going 120+ pitches, let alone anyone else in the MLB. Thats about Max.

No use in keep him out there and run the risk of getting hurt.

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Arroyo?;)

As much as I like Arroyo, Aaron is still the staff ace until he messes up hardcore. He has more overpowering stuff, and his K/9 rate will be much higher.

fisch11
05-04-2006, 11:04 PM
8 innings in September is better than a 130-140 pitch complete game in May.

George Foster
05-04-2006, 11:04 PM
121 pitch count, it was a good move, cold night.

harangatang
05-04-2006, 11:04 PM
Aaron Harang to Rick White = 12 k's to 12.00 ERA

Nugget
05-04-2006, 11:04 PM
I think that reply was to who is the strikeout leader not who is staff ace.

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:05 PM
I don't ever recall harrang going 120+ pitches, let alone anyone else in the MLB. Thats about Max.

No use in keep him out there and run the risk of getting hurt.

Have you ever watched Wood or Prior pitch? can you say 140+?

TeamBoone
05-04-2006, 11:05 PM
NL strikeout leader: Martinez 42.

Arroyo is 6th with 34.

Harang is 7th with 33 (not counting tonight).

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 11:05 PM
As much as I like Arroyo, Aaron is still the staff ace until he messes up hardcore. He has more overpowering stuff, and his K/9 rate will be much higher.

Nah...the Reds are holding a pair of bullets.

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Have you ever watched Wood or Prior pitch? can you say 140+?


And... Are either pitching right now?

Wheelhouse
05-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Rick White looking a lot better lately...

edabbs44
05-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Should have never come out for the 9th...no reason. Then again, BP White is in.

paintmered
05-04-2006, 11:06 PM
I don't ever recall harrang going 120+ pitches, let alone anyone else in the MLB. Thats about Max.

No use in keep him out there and run the risk of getting hurt.


I agree with removing Harang. I disagreed with your suggestion to bring in Coffey. Let's save him for more meaningful situations.

naynay
05-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Rick White on for Harang. Grounder to Phillips takes the Rockies to their final out, advancing the runner to third.

Cedric
05-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Will someone please tell George that getting the runner to third with 2 outs doesn't matter.

harangatang
05-04-2006, 11:06 PM
As much as I like Arroyo, Aaron is still the staff ace until he messes up hardcore. He has more overpowering stuff, and his K/9 rate will be much higher.No I agree. Arroyo has better numbers but Harang steps up for the team when they need him like tonight.

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:06 PM
Nah...the Reds are holding a pair of bullets.

I have absolutely no problem with that. What was the last time we had two pitchers of their calibur on the staff? Do we have to go back to the early 90s with Rijo and co?

:thumbup:

VR
05-04-2006, 11:07 PM
Aaron now leads Pedro 45-42. Is he now credible enough to be referred to on a first name basis like Pedro, Roger, Dontrelle and be instantly recognized? Maybe not, baby steps I guess. ;)

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2006, 11:07 PM
8 innings in September is better than a 130-140 pitch complete game in May.

Yeah, becuase that all important September game to put the Reds 7 games behind St. Louis to end the year as opposed to 8 games

Rick White comes on to pitch, taking over for Aaron Harang -- who pitched an absolutely brilliant game.

Danny Ardoin up next. If anyone is going to put the inherited runner over the plate, it'll be the Frenchman. Ardoin hits the ball to 2nd, Phillips digs the ball and sends it over to first to bring the Rockies to their final out.

2 outs.

gilpdawg
05-04-2006, 11:07 PM
Will someone please tell George that getting the runner to third with 2 outs doesn't matter.
Well, he COULD score on a wild pitch, balk, passed ball. etc.

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
I agree with removing Harang. I disagreed with your suggestion to bring in Coffey. Let's save him for more meaningful situations.


Well I was going off what Grande said with COffey up in the pen, I didn't know White was also up... Or I would of said to bring in White, or even Hammond.

George Foster
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Hey I'm late to the board, why is Aurilia on the DL? Did he pull him hamstring last night ?

KronoRed
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
And... Are either pitching right now?
Yep, both Dustied.

115 would be my max, but they don't want to hire me to manage ;)

gilpdawg
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
And it's over Johnny.

Wheelhouse
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Nice work White...Reds win!

crazyredsfan
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Have you ever watched Wood or Prior pitch? can you say 140+?

Yeah and look what that did for them, you won't see either one until the Reds come this way again in May and that might be wood's second start and maybe prior's first

naynay
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Swing and a miss, and this one belongs to the reds.

redhawkfish
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Reds win!!

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Hey guys...


WE WON!

KronoRed
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Hey I'm late to the board, why is Aurilia on the DL? Did he pull him hamstring last night ?
Groin

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
And... Are either pitching right now?


I was just commenting. If Narron ever pulls a dusty, i'd be the first in line to hit him with a chair. 120 pitches when there is low stress is not as bad as 100 pitches when you have to work your way out of every inning.

reds44
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
He Gone!

And this one belongs to the Reds!

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 11:08 PM
Should have never come out for the 9th...no reason. Then again, BP White is in.

I disagree. There is no reason why he can't go 115-120 pitches, which he did. However, I agree with taking him out after the 120-pitch mark.

KronoRed
05-04-2006, 11:09 PM
Split series.

oneupper
05-04-2006, 11:09 PM
Good game for LaRue, behind and at the plate.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2006, 11:09 PM
Bottom 9, 2 outs -- Reds 1 out away from going back to 11 over .500

...AND THIS ONE BELONGS TO THE REDS on a strikeout by Rick White.

Fantastic game by Harang!

TheBigLebowski
05-04-2006, 11:09 PM
Reds Win

edabbs44
05-04-2006, 11:10 PM
Hey I'm late to the board, why is Aurilia on the DL? Did he pull him hamstring last night ?

He was pulling his groin and ended up on the DL.

naynay
05-04-2006, 11:10 PM
paintmered Obviously is not affected by the notion of a bribe.

SirFelixCat
05-04-2006, 11:10 PM
So we are now 8-1-2 in series, right?


Can't wait to go home tonight and watch the TiVo'd game. Sounded like an absolute gem, doubly so being at Coors :thumbup:!!!

reds44
05-04-2006, 11:10 PM
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Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:11 PM
20 wins before May has even gotten 5 days old. Heck yes! And the goateed monster with a career high 12 Ks.

paintmered
05-04-2006, 11:11 PM
paintmered Obviously is not affected by the notion of a bribe.

Is that what that was? I thought you had a genuine interest in semiconductor physics. :laugh:

paintmered
05-04-2006, 11:12 PM
Oh by the way, Harang runs his record to 5-1 on the year. I predict nobody will notice outside the tri-state area.

edabbs44
05-04-2006, 11:13 PM
I disagree. There is no reason why he can't go 115-120 pitches, which he did. However, I agree with taking him out after the 120-pitch mark.

I'd rather see him fresh later in the year. With our BP the way it is, let them get their work in during games like this. I'd rather see Harang throw 120 in a 2-1 game rather than a game like this. Just my personal preference.

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:13 PM
Well this was a way better use of three hours of my night than studying for my social psychology final. Yee haw!

Question: Why not get Hammond or Shack Attack out there with nothing on the line? Those boys need some work.

Fullboat
05-04-2006, 11:14 PM
Great game Guys!:thumbup:
Team ERA is dropping.

Caveat Emperor
05-04-2006, 11:14 PM
REDS: 7
ROCKIES: 1

Reds move back to 11 games over .500 and now hold a .5 game lead on the Astros in the NL Central.

WP: Aaron Harang (5-1)
LP: Josh Fogg (2-2)

That's your ballgame. This PBP tonight is dedicated to the fine men and women of the game threads, who've helped keep me sane these last few years of law school. Wouldn't have made it to graduation without you guys!

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:14 PM
Great game Guys!:thumbup:
Team ERA is dropping.

Harang is inches away from going under 3.75

membengal
05-04-2006, 11:15 PM
Good lord Harang was filthy tonight. I have not read what I am sure is a fine thread, and am guessing the last four pages dealt with Narron's weird decision to run Harang back out in the 9th.

All I have to say about that, is that at least he pulled him at 120 pitches, thereby not exacerbating the mistake...

The team will need him later in the season Jerry...

reds44
05-04-2006, 11:16 PM
Hmmm lookie here. Starters go deeper into games, bullpen starts to pitch better.

Amazing how that works.
The starting rotation is the key to this team. If Harang and Arroyo can keep this up, we will make a move at the deadline to bring in another good starter.

Look out NL.

Figures the one year I think we will suck, we don't.

naynay
05-04-2006, 11:17 PM
Jerry Narron knows what he's doing.

reds44
05-04-2006, 11:17 PM
Jerry Narron knows what he's doing.
:beerme:

Keep Lou away.

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:19 PM
Ground outs: 11, Fly outs: 2

On the season... 61 go and 35 fo, which is close to a 2:1 ratio (1.74 if you care). He's been able to keep that going from ST. More stats I care about in a minute.

RedsMan3203
05-04-2006, 11:20 PM
Good lord Harang was filthy tonight. I have not read what I am sure is a fine thread, and am guessing the last four pages dealt with Narron's weird decision to run Harang back out in the 9th.

You will find a really weird game thread that is for sure.

Don't forget to look up Kimberly Page when you get a chance. :p:

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 11:23 PM
I have absolutely no problem with that. What was the last time we had two pitchers of their calibur on the staff? Do we have to go back to the early 90s with Rijo and co?

:thumbup:

1988:
Danny Jackson (23-8, 2.73)
Tom Browning (18-5, 3.41)

1990:
Jose Rijo (14-8, 2.70)
Tom Browning (15-9, 3.80)

1992:
Jose Rijo (15-10, 2.56)
Greg Swindell (12-8, 2.70)
Tim Belcher (15-14, 3.91)

1995:
Pete Schourek (18-7, 3.22)
John Smiley (12-5, 3.46)

Dunner44
05-04-2006, 11:24 PM
Other stats I care about:

K/9: Now up to 8.4
BB/9: Holding steady at 2.05
K/BB: A sweet 4.1

Looking good Aaron, looking mighty good.

And finally, the most important stat:

Record: 5-1

:thumbup:

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 11:29 PM
I'd rather see him fresh later in the year. With our BP the way it is, let them get their work in during games like this. I'd rather see Harang throw 120 in a 2-1 game rather than a game like this. Just my personal preference.

The difference between throwing 100 pitches and 120 pitches in a low-pressure situation is minimal. It's not like Harang throws that many every time out, and he is big enough, strong enough, and healthy enough that he can stretch it out now and then.

On the other hand, throwing 120 pitches in a high-pressure situation (like a 2-1 game) is much more stressful!

naynay
05-04-2006, 11:32 PM
Good, Dunner. Good.

Can't wait to see how Milton does.

reds44
05-04-2006, 11:32 PM
Can't wait to see how Milton does.
In a month?

:confused:

RedsIn2006!
05-04-2006, 11:42 PM
Jose Rijo:

I remember him pitching and winning 2 WS games for us in the 90s WS. He was a great, awesome pitcher. No doubt!

Big Klu
05-04-2006, 11:43 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Adam Dunn - 169
11. Gus Bell - 160
12. Joe Morgan - 152
12. Pete Rose - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 140
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

membengal
05-05-2006, 06:55 AM
Dunner just fricking kicked the crap out of the ball there... That ball went into the 2nd deck... Both CF and RF just pretty much stood there and watched the ball go bye-bye


454 foot shot for mr. dunn

Finally reading this thread in its entirety, and will use RM's take on the homerun to giggle at the Rockies' announcers a bit. When Dunn swung they both began to announce it like it was a routine fly ball to right. Late in its orbit, they seemed to realize there was a chance it might go out. When it finally landed, acres from home plate, they wondered what in the world happened. They replayed it then about four or five times, each time marveling at the prodigious easy power Dunn gets, and were stunned at how far the ball ended up going when it didn't look like he "swung hard". One of them did note that it appeared they were wrong in their assumption when the OF didn't move a step as the ball began its ascent into orbit...

Roy Tucker
05-05-2006, 07:33 AM
Wow. Watching Harang throw his slider last night was like watching John Smoltz. Nasty stuff. I didn't know Harang had that kind of game in him.

Watched a game a few years back when Smoltz pitcheds a masterpiece (against the Reds unfortunately). I swear you could hear his slider hiss. Harang was the same way last night.