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WVRed
05-07-2006, 05:39 PM
Title says it all

Cedric
05-07-2006, 06:00 PM
Lewis Billups is dead. Can we hope nobody votes on the dead guy?

MWM
05-07-2006, 06:05 PM
Yeah, if Billups were alive, I'd vote for him. But I'm not going to pile on a dead person, may he RIP. Kimo gets my vote.

pedro
05-07-2006, 06:21 PM
Ray Griffin

macro
05-07-2006, 06:25 PM
I voted for Leon (Dillon), but Pickens is on my list, too. Oh, and Kimo, as well.

Takeo offended because he was silly enough to think that he was taking a step up by going to Buffalo, but he's no where near as offensive as the three I've already mentioned. I have nothing against Billups as far as his actions with the team.

And who is Henri Stanley?

westofyou
05-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Ray Griffin
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo not my eyes.......................

cincinnati chili
05-07-2006, 07:46 PM
I've got no problem speaking ill of the dead, at least when the dead guy killed himself and another passenger by driving 100 mph without seat belts in a convertable (confirmed), and gang-raped a woman 4 years earlier (allegedly), and threatening Rex Chapman's sister (confirmed).

RedFanAlways1966
05-07-2006, 11:14 PM
Lifelong Bengals fan here... I voted for Corey Dillon. Used to wear his jersey during games, but he tops all w/ his departure. There are right ways and wrong ways to handle things (like a PRO perhaps?)... Corey left Cincy in a very selfish, arrogant and immature way. Throwing your entire uniform into the crowd after the last game? Not in a nice way either, but in a ridiculous look-at-me and I-hate-your-team way. The team he hated gave him a chance that most NFL teams would not gamble on b/c of Corey's "behavioral issues" (for lack of a better term or word) and lack of major college f-ball experience. Corey was a warrior and I do not want to putdown his great accomplishments on some bad teams. But the Bengals players threw some blocks for him and the organization paid him well to carry the load (not to mention, again, the opportunity). The Bengals helped make Coey Dillon an NFL Primetimer... bad teams or not. His attitude at the end puts him tops on my list.

On Lewis Billups being listed. Why him? One dropped interception in the endzone during the Super Bowl? Or is it something else? I cannot dislike a player for one play during a game. Perhaps he deserves credit for being in position and having his man covered in order to have a chance to pick it off. That dropped INT hurt and I thought about it for years. But that is a part of the game. The guy had great coverage and stopped a potential TD on the play. If he had not-as-good coverage, then maybe he dives and bats the pass away with his fingertips for an incompletion. Then we say he made a great play despite the fact he was a step slower or made a bad turn (games can be screwy like that). What hurt more than the play everyone remembers is the TD pass to Rice on the next play who was being covered by... Lewis Billups. Billups didn't play too badly for the Bengals while there and during the Super Bowl 23 year. He had issues off the field (as stated by chili... hope you aren't the judge sentencing me ;)), but wasn't too shabby on the field during the good years for the Bengals. One play... can't dislike him for that forever. Other plays hurt them too (last drive and pass to Taylor).

I was mad at Takeo for awhile and I still linger despise for him. He talked some smack when and after he left. He could have done it in a better way. He is good and I enjoyed his days in Cincy. He got injured last year, so I have lightened up a bit. If he plays against the Bengals, I hope they knock him into next week though. Nothing sentimental when the game is being played.

Carl Pickens is a jerk. I rooted for him b/c he wore the Bengals uniform, but I didn't care for him too much as his final years in Cincy took place. Arrogant person who didn't accomplish squat after leaving the Bengals. That is good enough for me. No reason to pile on since he pretty much went nameless after leaving Cincy.

RedsMan3203
05-07-2006, 11:32 PM
Don't know how you can't vote for Dillion.... He is a - well never mind.. this is a family site.

While some have voted for Kimo - I see no reason why.. He had a good stay here while he was here and left in peace did he not? You can't really hate a guy for what happend last year in the playoffs cuz we had a lazy oline forget to block him and perry forget to pick him up do yah? Kimo was semi-blocked into Palmer and he fell into the knee.. No Harm.. Crap happens..

Yachtzee
05-08-2006, 12:22 AM
And who is Henri Stanley?

Career minor leaguer last seen in the Dodgers system?

French Canadian fullback who froze his brain the night before the Super Bowl by snorting a slushie too fast?

Chad Johnson's alter ego, as "Ron Mexico" is to Michael Vick?

StillFunkyB
05-08-2006, 09:36 AM
Career minor leaguer last seen in the Dodgers system?

French Canadian fullback who froze his brain the night before the Super Bowl by snorting a slushie too fast?

Chad Johnson's alter ego, as "Ron Mexico" is to Michael Vick?

No, Chad Johnson's "Ron Mexico" name would be "Lex Fiji" (http://www.gorillamask.net/ronmexico)


I voted for Takeo. He is a bad tipper.

RANDY IN INDY
05-08-2006, 10:13 AM
Stanley Wilson

IowaRed
05-08-2006, 11:15 AM
I don't really follow football anymore so I'll say Virgil Carter

RANDY IN INDY
05-08-2006, 11:26 AM
How about Greg Cook?

westofyou
05-08-2006, 11:31 AM
How about Greg Cook?
What he do?

Other than get smashed?

Guys like Wilson or Griffin let the team down, others are prickly jerks.

The real question I guess would be who do you hate the most of these good players? or who made you cringe when you saw them take the field.

Bill "Tiger" Johnson and Homer Rice make me angrier than Carl Pickens.

Yachtzee
05-08-2006, 11:49 AM
or who made you cringe when you saw them take the field.


Greg Myers probably - Bengals had been known for hard hitting safeties like David Fulcher before he came along and infected the secondary with weak arm tackling.

Others
Rod Jones
Ifanye Ohehateme

RedFanAlways1966
05-08-2006, 01:50 PM
Others

Ifanye Ohehateme

The arm-tackle king. :thumbdown

Falls City Beer
05-08-2006, 01:58 PM
What about Ickey the Rapist Woods?

Javy Pornstache
05-08-2006, 02:56 PM
What about Ickey the Rapist Woods?

Ickey's comeuppance was turning into a steak salesman, selling out of one of those freezer trucks. I don't know how many rebuttals I got from him when I didn't want to buy. And to think I was just watching him in the Super Bowl a few years before that.

Danny Serafini
05-08-2006, 04:13 PM
What about Ickey the Rapist Woods?

Funny, I don't remember any conviction. Just a woman looking for a payday.

Falls City Beer
05-08-2006, 04:21 PM
Funny, I don't remember any conviction. Just a woman looking for a payday.

And he was so happy he had a good lawyer, he Ickey-Shuffled on the courtroom steps.

Class.

Roy Tucker
05-08-2006, 04:46 PM
I forget, what did Ray Griffin do?

I can understand Dillon and Spikes. They were sick of the losing and just wanted out while they still had something left in the tank.

Carl Pickens was a real cancer to the team and got my vote. He took the Bengals' money and still complained.

Other names to mention are Coy Bacon, James Frances, and Mike Reid.

Yachtzee
05-08-2006, 09:20 PM
Other names to mention are Coy Bacon, James Francis, and Mike Reid.

James Francis I can understand. Coy Bacon and Mike Reid were before my time, but I had always heard Bacon was pretty good. I heard Mike Reid got out of football to save his fingers, as he was a concert pianist. Did they have some history that time has polished clean?

westofyou
05-08-2006, 09:22 PM
I forget, what did Ray Griffin do?Worst prevent defense in a long history of bad prevent defense's.

I liked Coy..

WVRed
05-08-2006, 09:35 PM
IIRC, Coy was pretty bad into drugs, then he got turned around and is now an evangelist.

I've thought about going to hear him speak before.

Roy Tucker
05-09-2006, 09:09 AM
Coy Bacon was a helluva player but a pretty bad dude. He played in the pre-ESPN days so much of his off-field exploits were glossed over. Let's just say his was an unsavory character. Lots of violence, guns, and drugs.

Mike Reid was a great player and got out of football while still at an All-Pro level. He left the Bengals high and dry for a music career. Nothing wrong with that, I just wondered how people felt about his leaving.

WVRed
05-09-2006, 09:38 AM
Coy Bacon was a helluva player but a pretty bad dude. He played in the pre-ESPN days so much of his off-field exploits were glossed over. Let's just say his was an unsavory character. Lots of violence, guns, and drugs.

He has done a complete 180 now.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051027/NEWS02/510270314/1001/NEWS


Bacon talks to students about highs and lows of NFL career

By TIM STEPHENS
The Herald-Dispatch

HUNTINGTON - At 6-foot-6, 330 pounds, when Coy Bacon speaks, people listen.

About 40 Marshall University students listened intently to Bacon on Tuesday night at the school's Campus Christian Center when the former NFL All-Pro defensive end spoke to MU's Fellowship of Christian Athletes huddle.
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"Cocaine, marijuana, pills, alcohol, I did them all," said Bacon, an Ironton native and an assistant football coach at South Point High School. "I remember I spent $25,000 on cocaine in a month and a half. All the money I made playing football, I lost it all. I lost all of it."

From 1967 through 1981, Bacon was one of the fiercest pass rushers in football. An All-Pro defensive end with the Dallas Cowboys, Los Angeles Rams, San Diego Chargers, Cincinnati Bengals and Washington Redskins, Bacon was a star on the football field and led a terrible lifestyle off it. Bacon's transformation from drug-addicted, womanizing renegade to rock-solid Christian began the morning of Aug. 15, 1986. Bacon answered a knock at his door and was met by a gunshot that nearly killed him. The bullet passed through him and into a gas stove that Bacon said didn't explode only because of God's grace.

"I was in that hospital bed hooked up to machines and ready to die," Bacon said. "Jesus came down and told the death angel to leave. He saved me right there."

A much-sought speaker and choir member at the First Baptist Church of Burlington, Bacon, 62, tries to reach as many youngsters as he can. While many attending Marshall's huddle hadn't heard of Bacon before Tuesday, they came away impressed.

"It was good," said Amanda Williams, a Thundering Herd softball standout. "I enjoyed it."

Several more veteran FCAers remembered Bacon well.

"Man, he could play," said John Sutherland, an assistant coach with the Herd's women's basketball team. "He was the Javon Kearse or Michael Strahan of his day."

Bacon appreciated the praise -- to an extent.

"Strahan couldn't carry my shoes," Bacon said, with a laugh. "Back when I played, football was football."

Strahan, a standout with the New York Giants, holds the official NFL sacks record, with 22 in 16 games. In 1976, before sacks were an official statistic, Bacon had 26 in one 14-game season.

"That sacks record is mine," Bacon said, again with a boisterous laugh.

It is not the football records that Bacon cherishes, however.

"Every breath I take, I know who does it for me," Bacon said. "The Lord could take me right now, if He wanted to do it. He could take you, too. Do for Him. Tell other people about Him. Do it while you're young."

Bacon said the lifestyles of many adults and children alike trouble him.

Bacon said he is concerned about the media's influence on youth.

"Coke, alcohol, cussing, chasing women, I still talk about those things,"

Bacon says. "I know that Christ can make you new. He made me new. You can't hang with people doing the wrong thing and do what they do. They'll try to get you to do that. Don't let them. Don't let them take away what you have."

Ralph May was head football coach at Chesapeake High School when he first met Bacon in the mid-1960s.

"He was quite an athlete," May said.

The Rev. Bob Bondurant agreed.

"I saw Coy play basketball many years ago at Richwood High School,"

Bondurant said. "He was a good player. He could run up and down that court."

Sutherland was impressed with Bacon.

"What I like about him is he is a bold man," Sutherland said. "I think we all, and that includes me, need to be that bold. I really admire that in him."

Bacon related how he has a pacemaker, has overcome a shooting and a bout with cancer.

"The Lord has been with me through it all," Bacon said. "He brought me through all of it."

Aceking
05-09-2006, 10:23 AM
I voted for Pickens, but that's only because my choice wasn't on the list:

JEFF BLAKE

Always found a way to blame a loss on everyone but himself. There's a reason Dennis Green cut him right after taking the job in Arizona, and months before he actually had to make a football related decision. He's a cancer.

Danny Serafini
05-09-2006, 11:51 AM
And he was so happy he had a good lawyer, he Ickey-Shuffled on the courtroom steps.

Class.

You know, if some golddigger tried to smear my name and extort money from me I'd probably taunt her after she failed, too. May not be classy, but neither is being a lying thief.

Falls City Beer
05-09-2006, 12:10 PM
You know, if some golddigger tried to smear my name and extort money from me I'd probably taunt her after she failed, too. May not be classy, but neither is being a lying thief.

It was the height of tasteless, and is of a piece with behaviors that suggest certain members of society are above the law.

KronoRed
05-09-2006, 05:28 PM
Carl Pickens killed any chance I'd ever be a Bengal fan.

RedsBaron
05-11-2006, 07:51 AM
Mike Reid was a great player and got out of football while still at an All-Pro level. He left the Bengals high and dry for a music career. Nothing wrong with that, I just wondered how people felt about his leaving.
Reid has had some success as a songwriter. I can recall that he composed "Forever's As Far As I'll Go," which was a hit for Alabama some years ago.
Pickens gets my vote in this poll.

dabvu2498
05-11-2006, 12:46 PM
Why is Akili Smith not on this list???

Johnny Footstool
05-11-2006, 02:13 PM
Corey Dillon was sick of the Bengals' nickle-and-dime operation. The Bengals were a miserable team with a miserable front office. Dillon simply didn't want to put up with that any more.

He wasn't quiet about his dislike of the organization, and that's why some fans still hate him. But he said things that needed to be said.

Throwing his jersey into the crowd was excessive and unnecessary, but I give the guy a lot of slack for having the guts to say the Bengals organization sucked and he wasn't going to deal with it any more.

Yachtzee
05-11-2006, 08:19 PM
Corey Dillon was sick of the Bengals' nickle-and-dime operation. The Bengals were a miserable team with a miserable front office. Dillon simply didn't want to put up with that any more.

He wasn't quiet about his dislike of the organization, and that's why some fans still hate him. But he said things that needed to be said.

Throwing his jersey into the crowd was excessive and unnecessary, but I give the guy a lot of slack for having the guts to say the Bengals organization sucked and he wasn't going to deal with it any more.

I think a lot of fans were still in Dillon's corner right up until half way through his last season, when the Bengals were finally showing that they were heading in the right direction. Instead of being happy that they were finally winning, he cried about not getting his carries. All that time talking about wanting to be on a winner and then when his team finally makes a playoff run, he's whining about not getting his reps and causing problems in the locker room. Add to that throwing his gear into the stands, oh and going on national TV wearing a Raiders jersey and calling Willie Anderson a "chump." This is a guy who laid his body out on the line for Dillon so he could get his yards and Dillon's thanks is to insult him on his way out of town.

Don't forget about his statement about how he'd rather "flip burgers" than play for the Bengals earlier in his career. There are alot of people out there who do flip burgers who would gladly take Dillon's talent and be happy to play a game for a living. Right up there with Takeo Spikes talking about "getting his slave papers" to get out of Cincinnati. It's not indentured servitude. It's football. Get over yourself.

BoydsOfSummer
05-11-2006, 08:38 PM
All of them!

http://www.flagsource.com/2003/nfl/BROWNS.FLAG3X5.jpg

Johnny Footstool
05-13-2006, 06:45 PM
All that time talking about wanting to be on a winner and then when his team finally makes a playoff run, he's whining about not getting his reps and causing problems in the locker room.

He helped the Patriots to a Super Bowl championship. He struggled through injuries this season (like most of his teammates) and played hurt.

The Patriots aren't the kind of team who would tolerate dissention. If Corey were causing problems, he would be on the bench.

I'm not saying he's the classiest guy in the world. But I do admire him for calling out the Bengals organization for the flea-circus it was.