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savafan
05-11-2006, 11:16 PM
How much do you have to hate yourself to sink to such a low level?

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-suit11may11,0,7425075.story?coll=lahome-headlines

By Dave McKibben, Times Staff Writer
May 11, 2006

A Los Angeles psychologist who was denied a tote bag during a Mother's Day giveaway at an Angel game is suing the baseball team, alleging sex and age discrimination.

Michael Cohn's class-action claim in Orange County Superior Court alleges that thousands of males and fans under 18 were "treated unequally" at a "Family Sunday" promotion last May and are entitled to $4,000 each in damages.

The targets of the suit are the team and the Corinthian Colleges. Corinthian oversees Bryman College, which has an Anaheim campus and sponsored the event, its name printed on the bags.

Thousands of the red nylon bags were given to women 18 and older attending the Sunday Mother's Day game.

Angel officials said they had not seen the suit, filed May 4, and could not comment. But Angel spokesman Tim Mead said the team was proud of its promotions and giveaway days.

"Historically, we have tried to appeal on those special days that might be nationally noted holidays or special occasions," he said. "We have tailored programs or giveaways accordingly. In the past, we've given the moms roses…. We're trying to satisfy fans of all ages, genders and, most importantly, the baseball fans, so there's something for everybody."

Cohn, who could not be reached for comment, complained to the Angels about unfair treatment in a June letter asking the team and college to pay $4,000 in damages to all males attending the game. The Angels responded by sending Cohn four tote bags and a letter stating that the team "ran out of the item that day and had to order more."

"They claimed they didn't have any more bags, but my client said there was a mountain of bags stacked so high a show dog couldn't have jumped over them," said Alfred Rava, Cohn's San Diego-based attorney.

Angel officials said Cohn's was the only complaint about the giveaway.

This year's Family Sunday promotion, to be held this weekend, will not specifically cater to women 18 and older. The first 25,000 fans — male or female — 18 or older will be given a red "Mother's Day Ladies Tote Bag."

Mead declined to say whether the change to this year's promotion was made in response to Cohn's complaint.

"It was done after a lot of internal discussions," he said.

Rava said the giveaway still violated some fans' civil rights because those under 18 will be denied a bag based on their age.

"By looking at the bag, you can see a 17-year-old male or female would be just as happy with it as an 18-year-old male or female," Rava said. "I don't know why the Angels and Bryman College had a seemingly contrived cutoff for this ageless bag."

TeamBoone
05-11-2006, 11:43 PM
I thought there was now some kind of law against frivilous (spell?) lawsuites.

And how can this possibly be considered a class action suite?

macro
05-12-2006, 12:03 AM
"By looking at the bag, you can see a 17-year-old male or female would be just as happy with it as an 18-year-old male or female," Rava said. "I don't know why the Angels and Bryman College had a seemingly contrived cutoff for this ageless bag."

But if there isn't a "contrived cutoff" at some age, one-day-old infants will be given a bag. How young is too young? Wherever the line is drawn, the argument could be made that it should be one day younger, and then one day younger than that, etc.

On the other hand, 17-year-old mothers will theoretically be left out of this promotion, while childless 18-year-old men will get a Mother's Day bag. Whatever happened to souvenir helmet day? Didn't that discriminate against the old folks in attendance?

savafan
05-12-2006, 12:11 AM
You're right macro, there has to be a cut-off point somewhere. If you're going to a promo game, and there is a set demographic that has been announced before the game as to them getting the freebie, then I don't see what basis you have to complain.

This guy's saying, the bag would look good on a guy, it's not fair that a guy can't get one. Actually it is fair, because the team told you ahead of time that you weren't getting one, and you should have known that before you got to the park.

Big Klu
05-12-2006, 12:16 AM
But if there isn't a "contrived cutoff" at some age, one-day-old infants will be given a bag. How young is too young? Wherever the line is drawn, the argument could be made that it should be one day younger, and then one day younger than that, etc.

On the other hand, 17-year-old mothers will theoretically be left out of this promotion, while childless 18-year-old men will get a Mother's Day bag. Whatever happened to souvenir helmet day? Didn't that discriminate against the old folks in attendance?

I remember that Helmet Day was for kids 14 and under. I was 14, and the folks at Riverfront refused to give me one! (I was a big kid--around 6'0", 180 lbs.) My dad got a little upset when the helmet person said, "He's not getting one because I don't think he's 14." But a supervisor happened along, and asked what the problem was. I ended up with the helmet.

TeamBoone
05-12-2006, 12:26 AM
I hated when they gave the Sean Casey and Pokey Reese Beany Babies to kids 14 and under too, but I didn't sue the team because of it. I just complained a lot.

Some adults are so childish... they set such great examples for our children.

savafan
05-12-2006, 12:47 AM
Some adults are so childish... they set such great examples for our children.

Yeah, part of growing up, usually in adolesence, is learning how to accept that you are not always going to get your own way and that it is okay.

MrCinatit
05-12-2006, 07:16 AM
Yeah, part of growing up, usually in adolesence, is learning how to accept that you are not always going to get your own way and that it is okay.

...unless you have enough money to hire a team of lawyers. Then, you cry and whine until everything goes your way.

Roy Tucker
05-12-2006, 07:42 AM
"They claimed they didn't have any more bags, but my client said there was a mountain of bags stacked so high a show dog couldn't have jumped over them," said Alfred Rava, Cohn's San Diego-based attorney.
So, just how high do show dogs jump? The dogs I've seen on the Westminster dog show look elevation-challenged to me.

Actually, I've gone to games where there has been a giveaway to a select portion of the population and have commented that someone would file a lawsuit about it someday given the litigious nature of the modern day world.

smith288
05-12-2006, 08:44 AM
The promotions arent an unalienable right granted to us in the Bill of Rights...

I hate stupid people... Forgive me God but I hate them.

CySeymour
05-12-2006, 02:28 PM
I remember going down to Riverfront with my dad back in the '80's and being given a Reds backpack on backpack give away day, which was for kids 14 and under....I was 18 at the time. Of course, I didn't give it back either.

registerthis
05-12-2006, 02:34 PM
Idiot.

Big Klu
05-12-2006, 02:52 PM
I remember going down to Riverfront with my dad back in the '80's and being given a Reds backpack on backpack give away day, which was for kids 14 and under....I was 18 at the time. Of course, I didn't give it back either.

DISCLAIMER: Big Klu and BigKlu are not the same person! :D

CySeymour
05-12-2006, 02:56 PM
DISCLAIMER: Big Klu and BigKlu are not the same person! :D

:evil:

Johnny Footstool
05-12-2006, 03:08 PM
I hate those Senior Citizen discounts. I don't care which war you fought in, Gramps. I'm entitled to 30 cents off at Furr's cafeteria just like you are.

Maybe I should give this Michael Cohn guy a call...

MattyHo4Life
05-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Most promotions have age limits. I'm guessing that the 18 yr old age restriction is because the promotion was sponsored by a College. The are hitting their target audience. When Budweiser has a promotion, it is always 21 yrs old and over. Baseball cards are targeted towards kids. This isn't any different than any other promotion. A giveaway is just that... a give a way.

savafan
05-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Baseball cards are targeted towards kids.

I think the Reds give a team set of cards to every fan at the Kahn's Baseball Card day (at least it used to be that way).

TeamBoone
05-12-2006, 05:37 PM
I think the Reds give a team set of cards to every fan at the Kahn's Baseball Card day (at least it used to be that way).

Yes, they do.

Guacarock
05-12-2006, 06:02 PM
This fellow is no psychologist. But he is a shrink, as in, someone of small stature, mentally and morally. A pox on him and his mother, too, for raising such a putz.

savafan
05-12-2006, 06:37 PM
This fellow is no psychologist. But he is a shrink, as in, someone of small stature, mentally and morally. A pox on him and his mother, too, for raising such a putz.

And a curse on both their houses! :p:

Can't help it, it's the Spearshaker in me.

savafan
05-16-2006, 10:57 PM
http://altoonacurve.com/news/?id=5227

May 15, 2006 -


ALTOONA- Inspired by a Los Angeles Angels fan who filed a lawsuit against the club because he did not receive a red nylon tote bag as part of the major league club's Mother’s Day promotion last May, the Altoona Curve have announced that they will be holding Salute to Frivolous Lawsuit Night as part of their Sunday, July 2nd game at Blair County Ballpark.

The Curve’s salute to all ridiculous lawsuits ever filed will include the following:

# A Pink Tote Bag Giveaway to the first 137 men in attendance ages 18 and over
# The first 137 women 18 and over will receive lukewarm coffee so they will not burn themselves
# The first 137 kids will be given a beach ball with a warning not to ingest it
# Angels merchandise and novelty items given away throughout the game
# Honoring some of history's "Most Frivolous Lawsuits" during the game

A grand prize drawing in which one fan will receive a “clue” and their own frivolous lawsuit.

Additional details will be announced later

“We realize that these giveaways as part of our Salute to Frivolous Lawsuit Night are fairly stupid and serve no real purpose,” said Curve General Manager Todd Parnell. “But if our fans don’t like them, then they can sue us!”

Curve President and Managing Partner Chuck Greenberg, himself a practicing corporate and sports attorney, declined to comment on his club’s promotion because of concerns that his comments could lead to a frivolous lawsuit.

The Altoona Curve have become widely recognized for the fun, themed nights, including their annual “Awful Night” and the innovative “2006 Retro Celebrity Series”, which is bringing 11 of the most popular names from some of televisions most popular shows to Blair County Ballpark during the 2006 season. The club was honored by Minor League Baseball as the winner of the 2004 Larry MacPhail Award for promotional excellence among all affiliated minor league clubs.

butlerbulldogs
05-16-2006, 11:12 PM
i am 23, 24 on thursday :), i think i should sue the reds for not giving me a glove on kids glove day, what a joke, that guy should be put in jail

Benny-Distefano
05-17-2006, 11:20 AM
...unless you have enough money to hire a team of lawyers. Then, you cry and whine until everything goes your way.


yep.

Ltlabner
05-17-2006, 06:06 PM
Wow! What a total putz. People's ablity to freak out when they think they are being denied something someone else is getting still continues to amaze me. It's a MOTHERS DAY bag....when are able to cary a baby to term and give birth you are more than welcome to get a crappy ballpark tote bag. Until then you'll just have to wait till fathers day when they give you an equally crappy can cooler, team logo comb or magnent that regularly falls off the side of the fridge.

REDREAD
05-18-2006, 12:34 PM
:rolleyes:

Just exactly how is being denied a totebag cause $4000 in damages? Those stupid bags are probably only worth $5 at the most.