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kxblue
05-14-2006, 04:19 PM
I hate the shift.

So does Dunn (and every other Reds fan), but until he takes the ball the other way, it's going to be there.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:20 PM
I hope Todd's arm stays on.

Jr's Boy
05-14-2006, 04:20 PM
Yeah that was a great call,too bad no HR.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:20 PM
Utley singles to right.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:21 PM
So did Marty and Joe, I love listening to Nuxhall.
It was classic Nuxie yelling for the ball to get out. Say what you want about Joe being too old etc.. but this man is the Cincinnati Reds. He should have been able to write his own ticket out of the booth and not have been forced out by the Lidner regime.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:21 PM
So does Dunn (and every other Reds fan), but until he takes the ball the other way, it's going to be there.

As stupid as it may be, I'd like to see him drop a bunt down and take first to leadoff an inning. Then I can do my mad scientist laugh.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:23 PM
Double play!! Burrell strikes out swinging and Larue throws the runner out at 2nd.

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 04:23 PM
It was classic Nuxie yelling for the ball to get out. Say what you want about Joe being too old etc.. but this man is the Cincinnati Reds. He should have been able to write his own ticket out of the booth and not have been forced out by the Lidner regime.

Luckily the new regime realized this. They were very quick to bring him back into the picture.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 04:24 PM
LaRue has been making some nice throws down to second

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:24 PM
They gone! LaRue rifles him out on a changeup. Wow.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:25 PM
Bell grounds out to 2nd. 1-1 mid 9th.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:26 PM
Hold on to your seats. I feel another dramatic finish brewing.

gitrdunn44
05-14-2006, 04:27 PM
Let's end the game right here fellas.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:27 PM
Luckily the new regime realized this. They were very quick to bring him back into the picture.
That should be HUGE credit to the new regime's foresight and class.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:28 PM
Ryan Franklin in to pitch.

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 04:28 PM
Kearns tried to send 'em home quickly

Dunner44
05-14-2006, 04:28 PM
Fin A, swinging at the first pitch... never mind, one hell of a deep out

gitrdunn44
05-14-2006, 04:28 PM
isdjsdjd

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:28 PM
Kearns just missed flies out to the warning track in center. 1 out

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:29 PM
AHHHHH! The ball keeps dying at the warning track. We need to get in the weightroom.:)

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:30 PM
Hatteberg strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:31 PM
Phillips lines a single to left.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 04:31 PM
Now, are you sending Phillips here?

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:31 PM
Phillips singles. LaRue be the hero!

Dunner44
05-14-2006, 04:31 PM
Single.... .swinging on the first pitch works this time. LaRue needs to come through

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:31 PM
This could be an all LaRue game.

Dunner44
05-14-2006, 04:32 PM
0-2 holes suck

VR
05-14-2006, 04:34 PM
0-2 holes suck

For some hitter's, yes. Not for all.

Dunner44
05-14-2006, 04:35 PM
I love pitches after pickoff attempts

bomarl1969
05-14-2006, 04:35 PM
0-2 holes suck

Especially for Adam Dunn!

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:36 PM
Larue walks and didn't even realize it. 1st and 2nd with 2 outs.

Gainesville Red
05-14-2006, 04:36 PM
Pay attention, LaRue!

Dunner44
05-14-2006, 04:37 PM
Who's gonna pinch hit? Javy, who else.... sigh (unless it works)

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:37 PM
Valentin pinch hitting for Coffey.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 04:37 PM
LaRue didn't want to walk, he wants to hit

I started writing that before Welch said it.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:37 PM
Haha. LaRue with such a good at bat he didn't know he walked! lol

gitrdunn44
05-14-2006, 04:37 PM
Javy's up.

gitrdunn44
05-14-2006, 04:38 PM
*sigh.*

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:38 PM
I thought he had it. Valentin flies out to the warning track in right. 1-1 after 9.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 04:38 PM
George thought the game was over.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 04:38 PM
Obviously, nothing is carrying today, because that ball was smoked.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:39 PM
What are the chances of hitting this many warning track shots in one game?

Dunner44
05-14-2006, 04:39 PM
Fing A...Stormy's turn

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:39 PM
Did we move the fences back? I'm getting tired of raising my arms.

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 04:40 PM
What is the likelihood of winning a game in a shootout of the bullpens between these two teams?

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:40 PM
George thought the game was over.
I have seen people with vertigo that have better depth perception than George Grande.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 04:40 PM
What are the chances of hitting this many warning track shots in one game?

Remote.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:41 PM
David Weathers in to pitch.

Delucchi pinch hitting for Franklin.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:41 PM
Delucchi singles to center.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 04:42 PM
Dominic with a lead off single.

Sorry, that's Dominic DeNucci, not Dominic Delucci.


http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/d/dominicdenucci/11.jpg

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:42 PM
Remote.
Looks like we need to add the weightroom to our multitasking.:)

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:43 PM
Ruiz sacrifices back to Weathers. Runner on 2nd with 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:43 PM
Nunez pinch hitting for Roberson.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:46 PM
I forgot how much I missed Marty and Joe. This is a pure pleasure to listen to.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:46 PM
Nunez flies out to right. 2 outs.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 04:46 PM
Another reverse day.

I hope those stop soon.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:46 PM
IBB to Howard

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:47 PM
Intentional walk to Howard.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:49 PM
Rollins walks. Bases loaded.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:50 PM
Looks like they had the pitch around on Jimmy.

vaticanplum
05-14-2006, 04:51 PM
I'm guessing I'm the only one with the Cubs game on TV right now? Michael Barrett just let two get away from him in a row, Piazza and Castilla scored back-to-back. Man do the Cubs suck right now. but the Padres are actually good...they're squeezing everything they can out of that team.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:52 PM
Victorino grounds into a 6-4 fielder's choice. 1-1 mid 10th.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:52 PM
Lopez almost hot dogged us out of that out. Not so nonchalant on the toss please.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:53 PM
Lopez, EdE, Jr. due up.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:53 PM
Lopez, Encarnacion and Junior due up in the 10th.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:53 PM
Now or never boys. Especially if we aren't sending David out there for 2, which I would hope we would if necesarry.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:54 PM
Arthur Rhodes in to pitch.
Delucchi stays in to play right.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 04:56 PM
End this guys..I have brownies in the oven.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:56 PM
Again a fly ball to the wall as Lopez flies out to the track in right.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 04:57 PM
Imagine that. Another shot doesn't carry.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 04:57 PM
I didn't think Lopez hit the ball as well as that.

BoydsOfSummer
05-14-2006, 04:57 PM
All these balls-to-the wall are giving me palpatations.

PickOff
05-14-2006, 04:57 PM
I forgot how much I missed Marty and Joe. This is a pure pleasure to listen to.

Joe brings it back to the basics and really paints a picture for the listener. He allows you to get into the game completely. You are right there with Joe, and you know he is watching the game. His call shows concern for the listener by humbly putting himself out of the focus.

Needless to say, he is the perfect counterpoint to Marty. A great team.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 04:58 PM
Encarnacion strikes out looking. 2 outs.

vaticanplum
05-14-2006, 04:58 PM
End this guys..I have brownies in the oven.

I predict 19 innings. The historic Mother's Day Marathon.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 04:58 PM
We look down right lethargic today.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:00 PM
Junior grounds out to short. 1-1 after 10.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 05:01 PM
Joe brings it back to the basics and really paints a picture for the listener. He allows you to get into the game completely. You are right there with Joe, and you know he is watching the game. His call shows concern for the listener by humbly putting himself out of the focus.

Needless to say, he is the perfect counterpoint to Marty. A great team.
I agree totally. With Joe it feels like your friend is calling from the game and giving you what is happening. Joe is very underrated as an announcer.

Dunner44
05-14-2006, 05:01 PM
I did not sign up for 11 today.... 9 was the deal...

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:02 PM
I did not sign up for 11 today.... 9 was the deal...We need a lawyer.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:03 PM
Utley flies out to center. 1 out.

vaticanplum
05-14-2006, 05:04 PM
You know, our offense is sleeping, but so is the Phillies'. I would never have predicted the pitchers' duels we've seen this weekend.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:05 PM
Burrell strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

vaticanplum
05-14-2006, 05:07 PM
report from Chicago: Kahlil Green three-run homer...8-0 Padres now.

Eddie Vedder will be singing Take Me Out to the Ballgame.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:09 PM
Inning should be over but Encarnacion commits an error.

flynn78
05-14-2006, 05:10 PM
We need a lawyer.
Could a lawyer get us temporary custody of an offense?

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:10 PM
Put Ed on your back David.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 05:10 PM
"He's adding pitches to his inning and his outing."

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:12 PM
Delucchi walks. 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:13 PM
Ruiz grounds out to 3rd. 1-1 mid 11th.

PickOff
05-14-2006, 05:13 PM
50 Pitches for Weathers. Bring in Belisle or Merker.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:13 PM
50 Pitches for Weathers. Bring in Belisle or Merker.
Merckers on the DL.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:13 PM
Ed makes up for boot with a nice charging play.

gitrdunn44
05-14-2006, 05:14 PM
Dunn, Kearns, Hatteburg up.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:14 PM
Adam Dunn due up. Hit, Walk, K or HR?

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 05:14 PM
I wouldn't mind if Hatteberg doesn't get to bat this inning.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:14 PM
Let's hope we don't have to bring on anybody else.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:15 PM
Adam Dunn due up. Hit, Walk, K or HR?

By a hit you mean HR right? ha

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:15 PM
HR's aren't real hits ;)

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:16 PM
I say K.

PickOff
05-14-2006, 05:16 PM
Merckers on the DL.

As of when, and who did the Reds call up.?

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 05:16 PM
Dunn: 5 for his last 39.

BoydsOfSummer
05-14-2006, 05:16 PM
Dunn,Kearns and Hatty....there's gotta be a run in that somewhere...

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:16 PM
As of when, and who did the Reds call up.?
Burns :bang:

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 05:16 PM
As of when, and who did the Reds call up.?

Today. Burns.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:16 PM
As of when, and who did the Reds call up.?

Burns

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:17 PM
Dunn flies out to center. 1 out.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:17 PM
Why not bunt?

PickOff
05-14-2006, 05:17 PM
Burns :bang:

It sure does. :thumbdown

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:17 PM
A fly out is better then a walk.

CTA513
05-14-2006, 05:17 PM
Why not bunt?

because people would still complain.

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:18 PM
HUGE advantage Phils if Reds don't score here. They'll still have Gordon. Reds have....

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:18 PM
Kearnsy needs a walkoff.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:19 PM
Geoff Geary in to pitch.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:19 PM
because people would still complain.

It's just irritating. I understand the counter argument but Dunn in in a funk, and they are conceding the winning run to first base if he just drops one down.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:19 PM
I think Burns is going to have to hit for himself.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:21 PM
Why not bunt?

Dunn gets paid to hit HRs, K or Walk.... not bunt.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:22 PM
Kearns strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:22 PM
It's just irritating. I understand the counter argument but Dunn in in a funk, and they are conceding the winning run to first base if he just drops one down.
And he gets thrown out and the Dunn bash crew goes giddy with something new to tee off on.

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 05:22 PM
Dunn gets paid to hit HRs, K or Walk.... not bunt.

I thought Dunn got paid to do whatever to help the team win.

Silly me.

gitrdunn44
05-14-2006, 05:22 PM
I'm calling the shot right here. 2-1 count and he goes deep. Atleast I hope!

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:23 PM
Hatteberg lines a single to left. His 3rd hit of the day.

Olmedo pinch running.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:23 PM
I thought Dunn got paid to do whatever to help the team win.

Silly me.

Then lean in and and take one for the team... LOL.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:24 PM
Olmedo runs for the Hat

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:24 PM
Hatteberg is fantastic (never thought I'd be saying that).

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:24 PM
It's just ridiculous to not play baseball at that point. If he bunts one time out of the entire season, this would have been arguably one of the best oppurtunities. Just my pet peeve I guess. Of course I'd love to see him park one, but the way he has been swinging I think otherwise.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:25 PM
Phillips singles to left. 1st and 3rd.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:25 PM
Here comes the pink bat!

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:25 PM
Two out lightning.

gitrdunn44
05-14-2006, 05:25 PM
Ok here's our chance.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:26 PM
Do it all Frenchie.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:26 PM
Larue grounds out to 2nd. 1-1 after 11.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:27 PM
on to 12.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 05:27 PM
Poor at bat right there.

Oh, well, it's a great day for baseball... Let's play two!

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:27 PM
Haha. George: "Let's see if LaRue can send everyone home happy wearing red."

And the Phillies wear.........???

CTA513
05-14-2006, 05:27 PM
so whos going to play 1B? Dunn?

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Just wanted to point out that if Dunn lays one down we're celebrating a win right now.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:28 PM
And the Phillies wear.........???
Mauve? :D

PickOff
05-14-2006, 05:28 PM
So who play's first? Dunn? Freel in left?

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Just wanted to point out that if Dunn lays one down we're celebrating a win right now.

Thank YOU!

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Hammond in to pitch. Olmedo in to play 3rd and EE is playing 1st.

CTA513
05-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Just wanted to point out that if Dunn lays one down we're celebrating a win right now.

If lopez ball carries more a few innings ago the Reds win.

:devil:

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:28 PM
Just wanted to point out that if Dunn lays one down we're celebrating a win right now.
That assumes everything plays out the same, that's a big assumption.

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:29 PM
Ed at first. Interesting.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:29 PM
Has EE ever played 1st before?

kaldaniels
05-14-2006, 05:30 PM
That assumes everything plays out the same, that's a big assumption.

Agreed...that type of thinking is illogical. Can't look at things that way.

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:30 PM
Dunn would OPS 2.000 on the bunt play. That's got to convince SOMEONE.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:30 PM
Fasano pinch hits and strikes out looking. 1 out.

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:31 PM
Pretty pitch by Hammond.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:31 PM
Dunn would OPS 2.000 on the bunt play. That's got to convince SOMEONE.
Raisor's girls? :devil:

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:31 PM
Has EE ever played 1st before?

1st 2nd 3rd 4th.... there all the same.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:31 PM
Howard homers off the batter's eye in center. 2-1 Phillies.

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Well...that could take care of things

gitrdunn44
05-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Ahhhhhh

flynn78
05-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Hammond continues his stellar pitching.

Joseph
05-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Ryan Howard makes me sad.

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Ryan Howard is good.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Rollins grounds out to short. 2 outs.

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 05:32 PM
Reds swept at home by the Phils.


Pretenders.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:32 PM
That was crushed. Hammonds may be at the end of the line. He is only used when they have no pitchers left.

fielder's choice
05-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Unbelievable

dsmith421
05-14-2006, 05:33 PM
It's all Dunn's fault.

Gallen5862
05-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Did Burns make it to the game today? I know he got called up.

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:33 PM
It's Dunn's fault.

As much as anyone's.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:34 PM
It's all Dunn's fault.
Yep.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:34 PM
Victorino singles off Olmedo's glove.

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 05:34 PM
Pretenders.

I'm not quite there yet, but I'm beginning to wonder

CTA513
05-14-2006, 05:34 PM
It's all Dunn's fault.

Dunns to lazy to run over to CF and jump over the wall.

:thumbdown

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:34 PM
Probability with our offense would argue that we will score in the bottom. But our bats have been defying probability lately.

Kc61
05-14-2006, 05:35 PM
score one run in 20 innings what do you expect?

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:35 PM
And Victorino seriously needs to disappear.

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 05:35 PM
The difference between the Phils and Reds is Tom Gordon, an arm the Reds could have picked up this offseason.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:35 PM
Utley grounds out to 1st. 2-1 Phillies mid 12th.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:35 PM
Rally hats on.

Puffy
05-14-2006, 05:36 PM
Reds swept at home by the Phils.


Pretenders.

Come on FCB - while I have agreed all along that the Reds are pretenders, using getting swept by a good team that is on fire (12 wins in 13 games before today) is not fair.

The Phils are white hot. Thats that.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 05:36 PM
Maybe they can send Billy Hatcher up to hit a homerun. Or should they wait for the 15th inning?

griffeyfreak4
05-14-2006, 05:37 PM
Whose pinch hitting?

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:37 PM
Pinch hitter, Lopez and Encarnacion due up.

Gordon in to pitch.

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 05:37 PM
Come on FCB - while I have agreed all along that the Reds are pretenders, using getting swept by a good team that is on fire (12 wins in 13 games before today) is not fair.

The Phils are white hot. Thats that.


The Phils are playing good ball, but they're not a great team; no reason to get swept by them.

scounts22
05-14-2006, 05:37 PM
Sweet Jesus. Is it possible that somehow Rick White and Chris Hammond could not make the plane tonight???

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:38 PM
Q with a first pitch ground out.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:38 PM
McCracken pinch hits and grounds out to the pitcher. 1 out.

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:38 PM
Lopez and EE :pray:

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:38 PM
The Phils are playing good ball, but they're not a great team; no reason to get swept by them.

I don't know. Looks to me like the Phils have all the tools.

fielder's choice
05-14-2006, 05:38 PM
Come on FCB - while I have agreed all along that the Reds are pretenders, using getting swept by a good team that is on fire (12 wins in 13 games before today) is not fair.

The Phils are white hot. Thats that.

White hot? Dave Williams shut them down.

griffeyfreak4
05-14-2006, 05:39 PM
:pray:

fielder's choice
05-14-2006, 05:39 PM
McCracken continues to be worthless

griffeyfreak4
05-14-2006, 05:39 PM
McCracken continues to be worthless
Where's Deno?

griffeyfreak4
05-14-2006, 05:40 PM
The payoff....

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Lopez singles


End this EE

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Lopez singles to center.

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Well...here we are again

fielder's choice
05-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Lopez singles.

griffeyfreak4
05-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Cmon EdE

fisch11
05-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Another great AB by Felo.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:41 PM
Encarnacion flies out to right. 2 outs.

TheBurn
05-14-2006, 05:41 PM
Nice, FeLo...

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 05:41 PM
Here's the guy you want up in this situation.

Boston Red
05-14-2006, 05:42 PM
No way I'd give Jr. anything to hit.

griffeyfreak4
05-14-2006, 05:42 PM
Cmon Griff.......:pray:

KronoRed
05-14-2006, 05:42 PM
Game over.

Puffy
05-14-2006, 05:42 PM
White hot? Dave Williams shut them down.

Yeah, in case you didn't know, baseball is a team game about winning.

Winning 12 games out of 13 makes you white hot. Just because they got shut down by a bad pitcher, well they still won the game (the more important fact).

White hot.

Reds Fanatic
05-14-2006, 05:42 PM
Junior lines out to 1st. Reds lose 2-1.

CrackerJack
05-14-2006, 05:42 PM
mothers day is never kind to the Reds it seems

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:43 PM
Dunn would have hit a HR. :cry:

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 05:43 PM
Well....that's that

3-3 homestand....have to do better than that

KYRed
05-14-2006, 05:43 PM
What a pitiful weekend. We come in with our #3, #4, & #5 starters for the weekend. However, ALL 3 give a quality start, and the Sat & Sun starters pitch gems. Yet the offense is so pathetic that we get swept.

Puffy
05-14-2006, 05:44 PM
Well....that's that

3-3 homestand....have to do better than that

It was a 2-4 homestand.

CTA513
05-14-2006, 05:44 PM
If Dunn just lined out we would be hearing about how he sucks.

:evil:

PickOff
05-14-2006, 05:45 PM
Well....that's that

3-3 homestand....have to do better than that

2-4

Kc61
05-14-2006, 05:45 PM
Griffey, Dunn, Kearns 0 for 14.

Matt700wlw
05-14-2006, 05:45 PM
It was a 2-4 homestand.

I know what I meant :D

Marc D
05-14-2006, 05:46 PM
What a pitiful weekend. We come in with our #3, #4, & #5 starters for the weekend. However, ALL 3 give a quality start, and the Sat & Sun starters pitch gems. Yet the offense is so pathetic that we get swept.

22.1 IP 4 ER from Lizard, Williams and Claussen and we get swept because we manage to score only 5 runs in 3 games.

Ouch.

Aronchis
05-14-2006, 05:47 PM
Gotta give some blame to Claussen, his "homer" pitch was terrible and Howard drilled it out there. He simply couldn't afford to make a mistake of that level today with the cold and the cold bats.

doug flynn
05-14-2006, 05:47 PM
Swept on three of the best starts you'll see in one series.

THNDRacket
05-14-2006, 05:48 PM
Gotta give some blame to Claussen, his "homer" pitch was terrible and Howard drilled it out there. He simply couldn't afford to make a mistake of that level today with the cold and the cold bats.

So you're saying you expected Claussen to be perfect.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 05:49 PM
Gotta give some blame to Claussen, his "homer" pitch was terrible and Howard drilled it out there. He simply couldn't afford to make a mistake of that level today with the cold and the cold bats.


Yeah... he should have know better than to expect more than 1 run from the reds offense.

vaticanplum
05-14-2006, 05:50 PM
What a frustrating series. Still...I can't help feeling that this is not a lost cause. I would be frustrated and devoid of hope if the Reds had lost the series in a way I would have expected, ie. decent offense and horrendous pitching. But it was quite the opposite -- pathetically dead offense, surprisingly good pitching from all of our bottom three. If we have to lose, I'd rather lose that way; it gives me a bit of hope. Our offense is inherently good, and they will wake up at some point. But the pitching...any one of those three can have a fluke good start, but for the three performances we've seen, I've gotta think, at my most optimistic, that there may be something good going on with the coaching. It's early yet, but a few more rounds like this and I'll be feeling a lot better.

Of course, it could just look good to me because I've been watching the Cubs all afternoon.

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 05:50 PM
Time to roll up the sidewalks and retool for next year. But, man, are Cast and Krivsky going to get it in the earhole when they white-flag this season. Honestly, an atrocious start while Krivsky worked behind the scenes would have been better for Cast/Kriv politically. Now that the team has been thrust into the limelight, the collapse is going to be perceived by the layman fan as another capitulation. It's a weird spot for them to be in, that's for sure--particularly if they want the fans to buy season tickets this winter. They're going to suffer from a severe case of the Boy Who Cried Wolf with the fans.

KYRed
05-14-2006, 05:55 PM
Gotta give some blame to Claussen, his "homer" pitch was terrible and Howard drilled it out there. He simply couldn't afford to make a mistake of that level today with the cold and the cold bats.

You've got to be kidding. He gave up 1 run in 8 innings! What more can you ask from any starting pitcher?

Our run production when BC starts is horrible. The Reds have scored 2 runs total in his last 3 starts. BC is about 15th on the list of reasons we lost today.

Aronchis
05-14-2006, 05:58 PM
You've got to be kidding. He gave up 1 run in 8 innings! What more can you ask from any starting pitcher?

Our run production when BC starts is horrible. The Reds have scored 2 runs total in his last 3 starts. BC is about 15th on the list of reasons we lost today.

Don't get me wrong, Claussen wasn't the "main" reason we lost this game. Untimely hitting and Hammond were the main reason. But Claussen pitched the 8th like he needed to be perfect on every pitch instead of pitching smart.

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 05:59 PM
For another knee in the nuts, Hancock records two Ks in relief in a one-run game, no runs scored, no hits, no walks vs. Arizona.

I hate Jerry Narron for that. I really do. All sizzle, no steak Jerry. I freakin' told every last one of you that was what was going to happen.

Marc D
05-14-2006, 06:01 PM
Time to roll up the sidewalks and retool for next year. But, man, are Cast and Krivsky going to get it in the earhole when they white-flag this season. Honestly, an atrocious start while Krivsky worked behind the scenes would have been better for Cast/Kriv politically. Now that the team has been thrust into the limelight, the collapse is going to be perceived by the layman fan as another capitulation. It's a weird spot for them to be in, that's for sure--particularly if they want the fans to buy season tickets this winter. They're going to suffer from a severe case of the Boy Who Cried Wolf with the fans.

I have thought from day 1 Kriv and Cas should have come out and said we can't win as currently built, its gonna get worse before it gets better but have faith we'll make it better as soon as we are able.

Instead they try the same stuff Dan O and company did, win while we rebuild. You can't do both and nothing good can come from trying.

NastyBoy
05-14-2006, 06:04 PM
For another knee in the nuts, Hancock records two Ks in relief in a one-run game, no runs scored, no hits, no walks vs. Arizona.

I hate Jerry Narron for that. I really do. All sizzle, no steak Jerry. I freakin' told every last one of you that was what was going to happen.


Looking like a good move for our DIVISION RIVALS.... St. Louis!

Yeah... they sent Kearns to the minors... they did not release him.

Aronchis
05-14-2006, 06:05 PM
I have thought from day 1 Kriv and Cas should have come out and said we can't win as currently built, its gonna get worse before it gets better but have faith we'll make it better as soon as we are able.

Instead they try the same stuff Dan O and company did, win while we rebuild. You can't do both and nothing good can come from trying.

Actually, they did come out and say this was going to be "bottoms" up rebuilding. The quick surprise probably have surprised them. Even the Pena deal was made for long term benefit IMO, though you have to look to find out how.

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 06:05 PM
I have thought from day 1 Kriv and Cas should have come out and said we can't win as currently built, its gonna get worse before it gets better but have faith we'll make it better as soon as we are able.

Instead they try the same stuff Dan O and company did, win while we rebuild. You can't do both and nothing good can come from trying.

Not really. They got Arroyo, didn't they?

They just need to be more aggressive. That they're winning ultimately doesn't change a thing except for Krivsky's and Castellini's political perception by the fans. It doesn't mean that contention is any further away. Not collecting talent is what pushes back the contention timeline--well, that, and not being aggressive. Oh, and being needlessly cheap.

It's just going to make a dicey situation when they have to face the fans and the press.

vaticanplum
05-14-2006, 06:08 PM
Time to roll up the sidewalks and retool for next year. But, man, are Cast and Krivsky going to get it in the earhole when they white-flag this season. Honestly, an atrocious start while Krivsky worked behind the scenes would have been better for Cast/Kriv politically. Now that the team has been thrust into the limelight, the collapse is going to be perceived by the layman fan as another capitulation. It's a weird spot for them to be in, that's for sure--particularly if they want the fans to buy season tickets this winter. They're going to suffer from a severe case of the Boy Who Cried Wolf with the fans.

I don't know...my impression from all non-Reds fans, and most Reds fans for that matter, was that no one truly expected them to keep it up. If, against most odds, they do keep it up, they will shock everybody and it will be great. If, as is more likely, they fall off, I think it will be regarded as it has been all along: a nice surprise, and a sign that the team as is can build with the right decisions.

Falls City Beer
05-14-2006, 06:10 PM
I don't know...my impression from all non-Reds fans, and most Reds fans for that matter, was that no one truly expected them to keep it up. If, against most odds, they do keep it up, they will shock everybody and it will be great. If, as is more likely, they fall off, I think it will be regarded as it has been all along: a nice surprise, and a sign that the team as is can build with the right decisions.

From what I can tell, fans view the early season teams as a mirage. It's becoming like clockwork.

CTA513
05-14-2006, 06:13 PM
For another knee in the nuts, Hancock records two Ks in relief in a one-run game, no runs scored, no hits, no walks vs. Arizona.

I hate Jerry Narron for that. I really do. All sizzle, no steak Jerry. I freakin' told every last one of you that was what was going to happen.

How can you cut someone for being overweight and then keep Rick White?
Sounds like a lame excuse to cut someone you either didnt get along with or didnt like.

traderumor
05-14-2006, 06:18 PM
The difference between the Phils and Reds is Tom Gordon, an arm the Reds could have picked up this offseason.I was making that same comment to my dad as we were sitting there watching the game. With all the bullpen help we needed and no defined closer, he would be making a difference for us. His stuff is better than all but one arm in our current bullpen. Oh well, that ship sailed and it would have required OB to have known what he was doing.

ThatsAStrike
05-14-2006, 06:20 PM
What a frustrating series. Still...I can't help feeling that this is not a lost cause. I would be frustrated and devoid of hope if the Reds had lost the series in a way I would have expected, ie. decent offense and horrendous pitching. But it was quite the opposite -- pathetically dead offense, surprisingly good pitching from all of our bottom three. If we have to lose, I'd rather lose that way; it gives me a bit of hope. Our offense is inherently good, and they will wake up at some point. But the pitching...any one of those three can have a fluke good start, but for the three performances we've seen, I've gotta think, at my most optimistic, that there may be something good going on with the coaching. It's early yet, but a few more rounds like this and I'll be feeling a lot better.

Of course, it could just look good to me because I've been watching the Cubs all afternoon.I like the way you look at things. I hate to see good pitching performances go to waste, but wow is it nice to see such good pitching from these three guys. Let's hope they can keep it up. (Hey, I can hope, can't I?)

Marc D
05-14-2006, 06:23 PM
From what I can tell, fans view the early season teams as a mirage. It's becoming like clockwork.

I don't know. The board is replete with the standard spring posts.

"Everyone just chill, we're still in contention...yadda, yadda"

"This team is different, they have a winning attitude...yadda, yadda"

"Quit pointing out all those disturbing facts, enjoy the annual spring week in 1st place, you guys complaining are overreacting doom and gloomers who aren't real fans anyway...yadda, yadda"

I think the average Reds fan feels the starting pitching is fixed because Arroyo is a true ace, that Narron is a good manager and this team is a legit playoff team if we can just find some bullpen help.

I think most RZ'ers know the starters are living on borrowed time, the pen isn't just a little broke, Narron is Boone/Miley V 3.0, and the new front office is very limited in what they can do to help because of a barren minor league system and the payroll being what it is.

If the Reds are even mathmatically alive for the WC and anyone runs up the white flag its going to get ugly for a while but in the end it won't matter as long as they eventually put a winner on the field.

CTA513
05-14-2006, 06:41 PM
Cardinals lost today so the Reds are still 1 game behind them.
The Astros won and are now 1 game behind the Reds.

Reds face Maholm, Perez and Santos when the play the Pirates this week.
All 3 guys have ERAs over 5.00. It would be a good time for the offense to wake up.

flyer85
05-14-2006, 07:04 PM
I attended both games this weekend. Right before the 2nd Howard HR i was telling my wife how having him in the 9th spot will enable the Reds to pitch around him. OOPS.

captainmorgan07
05-14-2006, 07:06 PM
Cardinals lost today so the Reds are still 1 game behind them.
The Astros won and are now 1 game behind the Reds.

Reds face Maholm, Perez and Santos when the play the Pirates this week.
All 3 guys have ERAs over 5.00. It would be a good time for the offense to wake up.
those 3 pitcher should make the reds bats salivate santos got rocked by the fish mahlom and perez have yet to find the strikezone perez has been screwing with his mechanics he is no where close to finding it they skipped him in the rotation this week when one of there games got cancelled

Dunner44
05-14-2006, 07:35 PM
I was saving my 600th post for a reds win, but i need to get on with my life and post on this board again before tuesday

Jpup
05-15-2006, 02:59 AM
I went to the game on Sunday. I had a good time except for a couple of things, first was that the Reds lost and second was the stupid lady in the row in front of me that didn't realize that there was an actual baseball game going on. Why do people just come to the game to socialize? She really got on my nerves as I was trying to enjoy the game front the best seats ever.

If you get a chance, sit in section 224(club home). That is the perfect seat to enjoy the game. As far as the game goes, when Ryan Howard came in, I said, to my friend, watch this guy, it's probably going into the river. As we know, he hit 2 and beat the Reds on Sunday.

I'll be back sometime in June. :thumbup:

btw, the crowd that was there was pretty into it, but where was everyone? 19 thousand for a Sunday afternoon game against Philly when the Reds are only 1 game out? I highly doubt that 19k actually showed up. The weather wasn't that bad and was actually nice for most of the game.

GAC
05-15-2006, 09:29 AM
Any team that pitches to Ryan, when they know what he was sent in there to do... AND THEN DO IT TWICE!.... deserves to lose.

As far as I'm concerned, they gave away both the Saturday and Sunday games on some really silly decision making, and wasted some solid pitching performances.

The Q error and the WP by Coffey didn't help matters much; but still poor decision making overall IMO.

edabbs44
05-15-2006, 09:38 AM
I went to the game on Sunday. I had a good time except for a couple of things, first was that the Reds lost and second was the stupid lady in the row in front of me that didn't realize that there was an actual baseball game going on. Why do people just come to the game to socialize? She really got on my nerves as I was trying to enjoy the game front the best seats ever.

If you get a chance, sit in section 224(club home). That is the perfect seat to enjoy the game. As far as the game goes, when Ryan Howard came in, I said, to my friend, watch this guy, it's probably going into the river. As we know, he hit 2 and beat the Reds on Sunday.

I'll be back sometime in June. :thumbup:

btw, the crowd that was there was pretty into it, but where was everyone? 19 thousand for a Sunday afternoon game against Philly when the Reds are only 1 game out? I highly doubt that 19k actually showed up. The weather wasn't that bad and was actually nice for most of the game.

19k?????? What a joke.

NJReds
05-15-2006, 10:58 AM
Time to roll up the sidewalks and retool for next year. But, man, are Cast and Krivsky going to get it in the earhole when they white-flag this season. Honestly, an atrocious start while Krivsky worked behind the scenes would have been better for Cast/Kriv politically. Now that the team has been thrust into the limelight, the collapse is going to be perceived by the layman fan as another capitulation. It's a weird spot for them to be in, that's for sure--particularly if they want the fans to buy season tickets this winter. They're going to suffer from a severe case of the Boy Who Cried Wolf with the fans.

How would they retool? There are only three trade commodities that will bring back decent talent, IMO; Dunn, Kearns and Griffey.

Griffey has a no-trade, and Kearns is still on the cheap and is the best defensive OF the Reds have. So unless you're advocating trading Dunn, I'm not sure what you mean by retooling? Other 'tradeables' include Freel, Hatteburg, a catcher, Aurila, Weathers, Merker (DL), and Milton (there'd be a parade in Cincy if WK could deal off that contract) -- none of them would bring back a ton of talent, nor would dealing any be viewed as running up the white flag.