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WMR
05-15-2006, 05:41 PM
What made Tony have the change of heart in regards to helping out Janice with the house? He seemed so resolutely against giving her anything... maybe b/c he realized that he could get it so cheaply w/o really putting himself out much?

Allegro
05-15-2006, 06:22 PM
I think it was because of the fit that Janice through about how Tony treats her and Bobby. Tony realized she was right..... I tend to be an open-minded kind of guy about things, but the gay love scenes really made me sick, I almost had to turn it off.

Sweetstop
05-15-2006, 08:58 PM
His session w/ the good doc about his childhood relationship w/ Janice may have also softened him up a bit.

Johnny Footstool
05-16-2006, 09:48 AM
This whole season is about Tony finally starting to soften up.

westofyou
05-16-2006, 09:52 AM
This whole season is about Tony finally starting to soften up.
Yet he swung the sister hostility into Carmella's house problem and it came after there was no food and Meadow needed mommy there to cry on her shoulder.

But the key to the change IMO was when Tony saw that Janice treated her stepkids like Lidia treated him. That must have made him feel sorry for her.

WMR
05-16-2006, 10:55 AM
Yet he swung the sister hostility into Carmella's house problem and it came after there was no food and Meadow needed mommy there to cry on her shoulder.

But the key to the change IMO was when Tony saw that Janice treated her stepkids like Lidia treated him. That must have made him feel sorry for her.

I think you nailed it, WOY. On both counts.

Johnny Footstool
05-16-2006, 11:59 AM
Yet he swung the sister hostility into Carmella's house problem and it came after there was no food and Meadow needed mommy there to cry on her shoulder.

But the key to the change IMO was when Tony saw that Janice treated her stepkids like Lidia treated him. That must have made him feel sorry for her.

The underlying theme is that he is changing, but only in small increments and only on his terms. He still often reverts to his standard behaviors (stealing the wine last week, trying to sleep with Juliana Marguiles, being petty and vindictive with Carmella), but he is now more open to moments of clarity and self-examination. He's slowly developing a conscience.

westofyou
05-16-2006, 12:17 PM
He's slowly developing a conscience.Yep and the return of Vito will be the lithmus test for that and his world.

Red Leader
05-16-2006, 12:26 PM
It will be interesting to see if A.J. starts to take on some of his father's old characterstics in the coming episodes and next season...

WMR
05-16-2006, 12:26 PM
Yep and the return of Vito will be the lithmus test for that and his world.

Predictions?

Johnny Footstool
05-16-2006, 12:39 PM
Tony will put up a fuss with Phil, finally agree to take Vito down, then have a change of heart and let him go.

westofyou
05-16-2006, 12:40 PM
Predictions?
Vito becomes the problem that makes the Phil and Tony clash come to head.. and Tony's protection of him causes doubts from his crew.

Johnny Footstool
05-16-2006, 02:49 PM
Vito becomes the problem that makes the Phil and Tony clash come to head.. and Tony's protection of him causes doubts from his crew.

Yep. I think Vito is Tony's new Pie-O-My (or Tracy, or the ducks).

TeamCasey
05-16-2006, 06:00 PM
It will be interesting to see if A.J. starts to take on some of his father's old characterstics in the coming episodes and next season...

I thought this season was the end?

WMR
05-17-2006, 08:56 AM
I thought this season was the end?

12 episodes in this session... then a 6 month hiatus I believe, followed up by 6 more episodes.

Technically, it's 2 seasons, but it's really more like 1 super-long season with a mini-break in-between.

Reds Fanatic
05-17-2006, 09:03 AM
12 episodes in this session... then a 6 month hiatus I believe, followed up by 6 more episodes.

Technically, it's 2 seasons, but it's really more like 1 super-long season with a mini-break in-between.
There will be 2 more episodes this part of the season. Then in January there will be 8 episodes and that will be the end of the series.