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BuckeyeRedleg
05-17-2006, 04:49 PM
I don't follow these guys like most of you, but based on the season (so far) and where some of these guys were drafted, etc, this is how I would rate the pitchers and positional players, followed by total ranking. Obviously, this list is always changing, but based on age, level, and what we have invested, this is where I have them rated. I don't have Denorfia ranked, because I wanted to base the list on AA and below. Let me know if you all think this is accurate ranking. Thanks.

PITCHERS

1. Bailey (20 years old) HI A-Sarasota, 40.1 IP, 47 K, 13 BB, 1.02 WHIP
2. Wood (19 years, 3 months) LOW A-Dayton, 38 IP, 43 K, 17 BB, 1.24 WHIP
3. Cueto (20 years, 3 months) LOW A-Dayton, 33 IP, 45 K, 6 BB, .85 WHIP
4. Guevara (24 years, 2 months) AA-Chattanooga, 22.1 IP, 30 K, 8 BB, 1.03 WHIP
5. Shafer (24 years, 2 months) AA-Chattanooga, 13.2 IP, 19 K, 5 BB, 1.10 WHIP
6. Dumatrait (24 years, 10 months) AA-Chattanooga, 35 IP, 35 K, 14 BB, 1.14 WHIP
7. LeCure (22 years) HI A-Sarasota, 43 IP, 41 K, 11 BB, 1.12 WHIP
8. Medlock (23 years, 6 months) AA-Chattanooga, 22.2 IP, 23 K, 11 BB, 1.24 WHIP
9. Vazquez (22 years, 7 months) HI A-Sarasota, 36 IP, 36 K , 13 BB, 1.39 WHIP
10T. Chick (21 years, 11 months) AA-Chattanooga, 31.1 IP, 29 K, 12 BB, 1.40 WHIP
10T. Hendley (24 years, 8 months) LOW A-Dayton & HI A-Sarasota (combined), 20.2 IP, 21 K, 1 BB, 1.00 WHIP

Would make top 10, if not for age:

-Alvarado (28 years, 4 months) HI A & AA (combined), 24 IP, 29 K, 8 BB, .66 WHIP
-Valdez (26 years, 3 months) AA-Chattanooga, 31 IP, 26 K, 9 BB, 1.29 WHIP


POSITION PLAYERS

1. Bruce -OF (19 years, 1 month) LOW A-Dayton, .916 OPS, 8 HR, 27 RBI (34 K, 14 BB, 146 AB)
2. Votto -1B (22 years, 8 months) AA-Chattanooga, .807 OPS, 5 HR, 17 RBI (34 K, 19 BB, 146 AB)
3. Janish -SS (23 years, 7 months) LOW A-Dayton, 1.047 OPS, 5 HR, 18 RBI (10 K, 7 BB, 98 AB)
4. Szymanski -OF (23 years, 7 months) LOW A-Dayton, .838 OPS, 8 HR, 25 RBI (51 K, 14 BB, 144 AB)
5. Strait -IF (23 years) HI A-Sarasota, .774 OPS, 6 HR, 24 RBI +20 SB's (39 K, 12 BB, 142 AB)
6. Rosales -SS (23 years) HI A-Sarasota, .745 OPS, 2 HR, 10 RBI -injured (21 K, 16 BB, 78 AB)
7. Anderson - 2B (23 years, 3 months) HI A-Sarasota, .900 OPS, 3 HR, 20 RBI (25 K, 13 BB, 132 AB)
8. Herr -3B (25 years, 2 months) AA-Chattanooga, .829 OPS, 7 HR, 31 RBI (41 K, 7 BB, 150)


TOP 5 - REDS PROSPECTS

1. Bailey
2. Bruce
3. Wood
4. Cueto
5. Votto

rdiersin
05-17-2006, 05:44 PM
If you asked 20 people to come up with a prospect ranking, there would probably 20 different rankings. With that said, yours is probably close to what a lot them would say. (That's not meant to be a slight). Personally I think that Rosales is at least right there with Janish and BJ. Now if Janish actually hits when he gets to Sarasota that would have to change.

Also, I would probably put Jay Bruce as our top prospect, at least in terms of who I think is the safest pick reach an above average major league player. But, that's just me.

dougdirt
05-17-2006, 07:04 PM
My top 4 is solid at this point. (not counting Denorfia)

1. Homer Bailey
2. Jay Bruce
3. Travis Wood
4. Joey Votto

after that, I still have a lot of unanswered questions.
Cueto, Vazquez, Lecure, Chick, Rosales, Szymanski, Anderson would probably fill out the rest of my top 10, and yes I listed 11 guys total, but the rest of those guys all have large question marks in my mind so I dont know who would go where. Cueto has come out of nowhere almost to show he is pretty good, but throwing him up so high after just a month and a half in single A, I just cant do.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 07:08 PM
1. Jay Bruce
2. Johnny Cueto
3. Homer Bailey
4. Travis Wood
5. Joey Votto
6. Phil Dumatrait
7. Travis Chick
8. Adam Rosales

Cueto's consistency and stuff put him at No. 2 on my list. I was debating whether or not I should put him above Homer, but I have fallen in love with Cueto's K/BB rate, thus the No. 2 slot.

Javy Pornstache
05-17-2006, 07:10 PM
Just in ranking them from "safe" picks to "potential" or "ceilings" will cause a huge variance in different rankings. I can't imagine many official lists having anyone other than Bailey as number one, though I definitely agree with rdiersin that Bruce is the safest pick and the guy with most potential who is most likely to realize that potential... if that makes sense.

I am not as high on Szymanski or Janish based on them being four-year college players in a low-A league, but I also realize both have battled injuries. I really liked Szymanski as a draft pick, though I know many questioned the pick; I wasn't too hyped about Janish as a pick though. Again, as rdiersin said, if both continue to hit without missing much of a beat with a potential move to Sarasota, I will be ready to hype them more.

However, I DO think Szymanski is the type that once he gets going and stays healthy (a HUUUUGE if for him), he probably can keep up the pace and take right off. I am not convinced Janish will keep up a .300 average at his next stop, let alone the .400 clip he had at Dayton. Naturally, I would be glad to be wrong in that prognosis. Everything I seem to hear about Rosales indicates that he can play shortstop at the major league level, though many think an offensive shortstop almost always becomes a third baseman at some point. If Rosales is at least average in the field, he's way ahead of Janish as a prospect, I would have to think.

thorn
05-17-2006, 07:33 PM
Actually, I think Janish is considered a better fielder right now than Rosales. I'll hold judgement on both till I seem the perform at AA.

rdiersin
05-17-2006, 07:55 PM
Actually, I think Janish is considered a better fielder right now than Rosales. I'll hold judgement on both till I seem the perform at AA.

I think what Javy means is that if Rosales is an average fielder, then that with his bat, he is a better prospect than Janish, with his no hit reputation and good fielding. But you're right we will know a lot when they get to AA. Sure wish Janish was actually going to AA instead of high A.