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CTA513
05-17-2006, 06:55 PM
Reds Pirates
1. Freel, LF 1. Bautista, 3B
2. Lopez, SS 2. McLouth, CF
3. Griffey, CF 3. Sanchez, SS
4. Kearns, RF 4. Bay, LF
5. Dunn, 1B 5. Burnitz, RF
6. Encarnacion, 3B 6. C. Wilson, 1B
7. Phillips, 2B 7. Paulino, C
8. Ross, C 8. Castillo, 2B
9. Arroyo, P 9. Perez, P

Arroyo: 5-1, 2.03
Perez: 1-5, 7.71

Time: 7:05 p.m. ET
TV: FSN Ohio
Radio: WLW 700

forfreelin04
05-17-2006, 06:59 PM
Now that is a great lineup! I'd move Freel to center and griffey to left but I'm not going to get greedy

DiamondRat
05-17-2006, 07:00 PM
Hattie has the flu per Rotoworld.

harangatang
05-17-2006, 07:00 PM
Hopefully Arroyo will have alot of flyballs that don't go out of the park with Dunn at 1B.

jfar23
05-17-2006, 07:09 PM
Has there ever been any explanation as to why Oliver Perez's velocity went down? I thought this guy was going to be really special.

Puffy
05-17-2006, 07:10 PM
Now that is a great lineup! I'd move Freel to center and griffey to left but I'm not going to get greedy

What he said.

Matt700wlw
05-17-2006, 07:27 PM
About 5 minutes ago it was absolutely pouring in Pittsburgh.

Now it's sunny...

Pennsylvania sucks. :)

LincolnparkRed
05-17-2006, 07:29 PM
So I think my newborn son is bringing the Reds bad luck. He was born last friday and the reds haven't won since. Do I need to sacrifice a chicken or something? He already has a bunch of Reds stuff but he is too small to wear any of it.

Matt700wlw
05-17-2006, 07:29 PM
So I think my newborn son is bringing the Reds bad luck. He was born last friday and the reds haven't won since. Do I need to sacrifice a chicken or something? He already has a bunch of Reds stuff but he is too small to wear any of it.


Put him back.










:D

Kidding. Congratulations

kyle1976
05-17-2006, 07:31 PM
I like Freel in left and Dunn at first. Maybe Aurilia could catch when he returns Friday? ;)

kyle1976
05-17-2006, 07:33 PM
So I think my newborn son is bringing the Reds bad luck. He was born last friday and the reds haven't won since. Do I need to sacrifice a chicken or something? He already has a bunch of Reds stuff but he is too small to wear any of it.

Who cares if it doesn't fit? He won't know the difference. Put it on, quickly!! :p:


Congrats!!! :beerme:

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 07:36 PM
So I think my newborn son is bringing the Reds bad luck. He was born last friday and the reds haven't won since. Do I need to sacrifice a chicken or something? He already has a bunch of Reds stuff but he is too small to wear any of it.
I couldn't hurt to sacrifice a chicken. ;)

Congradulations!!! :thumbup:

SirFelixCat
05-17-2006, 07:41 PM
Love the lineup. Please, get a "W" today fellas. Been a rough week and could use the pick-me-up. :thumbup:

IslandRed
05-17-2006, 07:42 PM
So I think my newborn son is bringing the Reds bad luck. He was born last friday and the reds haven't won since. Do I need to sacrifice a chicken or something? He already has a bunch of Reds stuff but he is too small to wear any of it.

I'm heading to KFC, I'll take care of it.

And congratulations!

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 07:44 PM
I'm heading to KFC, I'll take care of it.

And congratulations!
:lol:

Edit: I'm getting awful close to post #500, and I waitin' on a W, let's get one today boys!

DunnFan44
05-17-2006, 07:44 PM
Griffey Jr. is 0-12 against Perez with something like 8 strikeouts in his lifetime.

reds44
05-17-2006, 07:46 PM
I called Freel in LF last night.

fisch11
05-17-2006, 07:47 PM
Perez has owned us in the past, but earlier this year we knocked him around a little.

remdog
05-17-2006, 07:48 PM
I called Freel in LF last night.

Cool! What did he say? ;)

Rem

CTA513
05-17-2006, 07:50 PM
Perez has owned us in the past, but earlier this year we knocked him around a little.

Lefties are hitting .077 off of him, but righties are hitting .347

indyred
05-17-2006, 07:58 PM
Dunn breaking bowling pins in Cooperstown...........Welch and Dunn hamming it up on Real Reds........looks like some big hazy clouds over PNC, but the sun is out........

James B.
05-17-2006, 08:00 PM
Tonight is the night the offense finally breaks out.:thumbup:

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:06 PM
Freel will get this team going.

watch

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:07 PM
Freel on first, missed what happened

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:07 PM
Grids Key's to breaking this slump:

Swing Early and Often. Freel did it too. :) Gotta jump on these strikes we been seeing and FORCE pitchers to start throwing some balls and letting us settle at the plate.

Arroyo solid outting as always.......need that today as well.

biggest factor.. Stay Focused.. we've had mental lapses lately we need to eliminate those.

Good luck 2nite guys!!

GO REDS!!!!!!!

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:08 PM
2-2 on lopez

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:09 PM
lopez single to center

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:09 PM
big inning coming

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 08:09 PM
Just like last night. 2 base hits to start. Maybe Freel should just not take a leadoff at all just to be sure.

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:09 PM
2 on, 0 out.

2 singles

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:10 PM
freel still sore according to Grande

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:11 PM
bases loaded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:11 PM
all of a sudden the bloops are falling

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 08:11 PM
Let's take a quick lead now, this could really help Arroyo.

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:11 PM
1st, 2nd, and 3rd

0 out

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:11 PM
yea baby... bats showed up :)

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:11 PM
JR dink single to left

MrCinatit
05-17-2006, 08:12 PM
I'll take that Sac fly by ears.

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:12 PM
and a hard liner is an out

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:12 PM
Sac fly

1-0

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:13 PM
kearns all most got all of that one lol

nice sac fly reds up 1-0 EARLY

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:13 PM
Enough with having Dunn's bat handle Welch

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:14 PM
I love first pitch swinging against a guy with control problems.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:14 PM
Dunn walks, come on EE

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 08:15 PM
Right after Welch says his fastball has topped out at 89 tonight Perez tosses one 92.

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:15 PM
Perez used to blow people away, not he looks afraid to throw strikes

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:15 PM
bases loaded

BB Dunn

1 out

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:15 PM
woooooooowhoooooooooooooo atta boy dunn

nice inning so far by the Reds.... excellent AB's so far... lets go EdWIN!

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:15 PM
make him throw a strike here

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:16 PM
What's Perez hitting on the radar tonight?

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:16 PM
wow, nice catch by Castillo

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:17 PM
That's a perfect object lesson in why Dunn's AB was much better than Kearns; Dunn walks (prevents making an out) to turn it over to a righty, Enc. Kearns hacks away, gets the RBI, but makes an out. Looks are frequently deceiving, and RBI are a pointless statistic for measuring the strength of any particular AB.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:17 PM
should he have tagged, his back was to the infield there

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:17 PM
What's Perez hitting on the radar tonight?around 90

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:17 PM
BP is due for a double

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:17 PM
Up 1-0 and bases loaded with 1 out...and you can't score anymore.

This offense is embarrassing these days. Terrible.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:17 PM
BP fooled by the junk

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:18 PM
watching Perez his curve is more of a rolling pitch. It used to snap.

Neither Phillips or EE was patient enough to let Perez get himself in more trouble

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:18 PM
Oy.

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:18 PM
:bang: :bang: :bash: :censored:
Only one run!?

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:18 PM
Well the RBI Machine Edwin Phillips doesnt come through.. but we do have the 1-0 lead

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:18 PM
over under on the pepsi commercial........7

Aronchis
05-17-2006, 08:19 PM
When are the Pirates gonna bite the bullet with Perez? He obviously has physical problems, the 2004 version is long dead.

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:19 PM
It's okay, all Arroyo needs is one run

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:19 PM
Neither Phillips or EE was patient enough to let Perez get himself in more trouble

ehem, or Mr. Kearns.

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:19 PM
:bang: :bang: :bash: :censored:
Only one run!?neither EE or BP allowed Perez to make a mistake or waited until he had to come in

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:19 PM
should he have tagged, his back was to the infield there

No way...... he turned IMEDIATLY and that ball was at HOME b4 Lopez could even think tag

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:20 PM
ehem, or Mr. Kearns.
:bang:

He hammered a ball to left and drove in our only run.

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:20 PM
ehem, or Mr. Kearns.Kearns got a good pitch to hit which is what you want. It was a fastball in the middle of plate

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:20 PM
The momentum destroyer in that inning was Kearns.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:21 PM
1 out.....

billy117
05-17-2006, 08:21 PM
EE on pace to have over 60 errors

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:22 PM
Hr 1-0

billy117
05-17-2006, 08:22 PM
piss

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:22 PM
Arroyo gives up a HR to the worst player in baseball.

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:22 PM
tie game on a hanger

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:22 PM
The momentum destroyer in that inning was Kearns.
No.

It was EE not getting a run in with the bases loaded and 1 out.

Don't let facts get in the way of hating on AK though.

Matt700wlw
05-17-2006, 08:22 PM
Settle down, Bronson....

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:22 PM
McLouth golfed that one out

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:23 PM
It's okay, all Arroyo needs is one run
I jinxed him.......:doh:

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:23 PM
No.

It was EE not getting a run in with the bases loaded and 1 out.

Don't let facts get in the way of hating on AK though.

EE didn't help matters, but when you got a guy on the ropes, swinging at his first pitch is exactly what he wants. Don't give a struggling pitcher what he wants.

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:23 PM
I missed it.. arroyo hang one or something?

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:23 PM
nice pick

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:23 PM
nice scoop by Dunn on Lopez throw

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:24 PM
Great pick out of the dirt by Dunn. I'm sure the Dunn haters won't mention that play.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:25 PM
Grif where you at..........

billy117
05-17-2006, 08:26 PM
BA doesn't quite look as sharp as usual...but he IS a pitcher and can hopefully get through it.

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:26 PM
*Waits for the Deno would have caught it even though he wouldn't have comment*

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:26 PM
end 1, 1-1

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:26 PM
I think JR was shading him to left on that one

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:26 PM
*Waits for the Deno would have caught it even though he wouldn't have comment*
Deno would've caught it standing ;)

billy117
05-17-2006, 08:27 PM
Grif where you at..........
not that it matters and I love jr but freel catches that ball if he's in center

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:27 PM
not that it matters and I love jr but freel catches that ball if he's in center
And there it is

Said Freel not Deno, but it's all the same.

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:27 PM
Grif where you at..........

Dont start........

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:27 PM
And there it is
No respect.......

DunnFan44
05-17-2006, 08:27 PM
*Waits for the Deno would have caught it even though he wouldn't have comment*
HAHAHAHA

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:28 PM
a bunt hit for Ross

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 08:28 PM
Ross=scrappy

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:28 PM
George and Chris loving it

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:29 PM
Woah Ross showing the wheels!

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 08:29 PM
Nevermind

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:29 PM
Gotta love the scrappiness
Now Arroyo's gonna jack one..............

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:29 PM
and Ross gunned at third on BA bunt

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:29 PM
This team can't do anything right.

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:29 PM
you can NOT SAY

"______ Gets to that ball"

You just cant. lol who knows what kinda alignment was used, or would have been used.. not to mention they were NOT in the game to "get to the ball"

That is like gotta be a pet peave of mine or something cause it kills me when ppl say that absolutly a waste of post IMO. lol

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:29 PM
The offense can't do anything right.

billy117
05-17-2006, 08:30 PM
My fox net station is staying in commercials too lond how did ross get on

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:30 PM
you can NOT SAY

"______ Gets to that ball"

You just cant. lol who knows what kinda alignment was used, or would have been used.. not to mention they were NOT in the game to "get to the ball"

That is like gotta be a pet peave of mine or something cause it kills me when ppl say that absolutly a waste of post IMO. lol
No question Grif was shading to left center on that one........that is why it fell in

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:31 PM
My fox net station is staying in commercials too lond how did ross get on
bunt single, error got him to 2nd

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:32 PM
Lopez K

GridironGrace
05-17-2006, 08:33 PM
No question Grif was shading to left center on that one........that is why it fell in

So if Freel shades the same.. or Deno.. its very doubtful they get to it either...

so its a mute point to say _____ Gets to that?

right? lol

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 08:34 PM
The offense can't do anything right.yep

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:34 PM
:clap: Yay offense for blowing a major error on the other team and what in essence was a leadoff double :clap:

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:35 PM
Fireworks shows any good a GABP......

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:35 PM
Another shot of Casey in dugout........

KittyDuran
05-17-2006, 08:36 PM
Fireworks shows any good a GABP......I think they are - but I'm easy to please...:)

billy117
05-17-2006, 08:36 PM
So if Freel shades the same.. or Deno.. its very doubtful they get to it either...

so its a mute point to say _____ Gets to that?

right? lol

fine good point let it go lol lol
go colts

Chip R
05-17-2006, 08:37 PM
It was a nice bunt by Bronson. I know you have to sacrifice with the pitcher but with a catcher on the basepaths, it is pretty tough to advance him on a bunt.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:38 PM
1st and 2nd no outs now

Matt700wlw
05-17-2006, 08:38 PM
Arroyo not quite "on" tonight...

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:39 PM
You have to figure Arroyo is due for another bad night. He's not a sub-3 pitcher, gang.

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:40 PM
You have to figure Arroyo is due for another bad night. He's not a sub-3 pitcher, gang.
Is there any pitcher or really player on this team that you don't rip?

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:40 PM
Bases Full No Outs......

NatiRedGals
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9169/untitled4hi.png (http://imageshack.us)

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
Is there any pitcher or really player on this team that you don't rip?

Dunn.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
What is our MALFUNCTION. Seriously!!!!

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
Perez singles.:laugh:

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
It is so painful to be a Reds fan right now.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
3-1 now buck O's

Chip R
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
Great, now the pitcher gets a base hit.

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
We need a K or a pop up on the Pitcher spot..........:pray:

CTA513
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
wow, what a joke.

MrCinatit
05-17-2006, 08:41 PM
killed by the pitcher with the bat. ouch. ouch. ouch. ouch. ouch.

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:42 PM
Wtf?

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:42 PM
Death spiral. I called it.

Matt700wlw
05-17-2006, 08:42 PM
Even if Arroyo gets rocked tonight...I still have complete faith in him as a pitcher on this squad.

He's been terrific this season.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:43 PM
The Reds supposedly great offense gets shutdown by the Pirates bad pitchers while the Pirates afwul hitters rock the Reds best pitchers. Go figure.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 08:43 PM
Pitching Sucks, Offense sucks, Reds Suck.

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:43 PM
Btw, you think the Pirates didn't read that press clipping by Arroyo? Payback's a...

Learn to keep your mouth shut Bronson. You don't walk on water.

Ravenlord
05-17-2006, 08:43 PM
listening to Marty and Daughtery(?) it's utterly amazing to me that two people whom have watched baseball this long can not only belief the crap coming out of their mouths, but espouse it.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 08:43 PM
Even if Arroyo gets rocked tonight...I still have complete faith in him as a pitcher on this squad.

He's been terrific this season.


Correction, he's been terrific in 6 starts.

captainmorgan07
05-17-2006, 08:43 PM
need an out here

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:44 PM
Arroyo has the hanger workin tonight. High off speed pitches are not hard to hit

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:44 PM
Sacs Packed, no outs

Matt700wlw
05-17-2006, 08:44 PM
Correction, he's been terrific in 6 starts.


I'll take 6 out of 8 (or 9 now) all season...

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:45 PM
McLouth's a lefty right? This one's going over the wall.

BuckeyeRedleg
05-17-2006, 08:45 PM
Wow.

This team appears to be imploding in every aspect of the game right now.

NatiRedGals
05-17-2006, 08:45 PM
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2893/untitled4uk1.png (http://imageshack.us)
Top 1ST B:0 S:0 O:0
Ryan Freel singles on a line drive to right fielder Jeromy Burnitz.

Top 1ST B:2 S:2 O:0
Felipe Lopez singles on a line drive to center fielder Nate McLouth. Ryan Freel to 2nd.

Top 1ST B:2 S:2 O:0
Ken GriffeyJr. singles on a soft line drive to left fielder Jason Bay. Ryan Freel to 3rd. Felipe Lopez to 2nd.

Top 1ST B:0 S:0 O:1
Austin Kearns out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Jason Bay. Ryan Freel scores.

Top 1ST B:4 S:2 O:1
Adam Dunn walks. Felipe Lopez to 3rd. Ken GriffeyJr. to 2nd.

Top 1ST B:1 S:1 O:2
Edwin Encarnacion pops out to second baseman Jose Castillo.

Top 1ST B:0 S:3 O:3
Brandon Phillips strikes out swinging.


--------------------------- MIDDLE 1ST
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Bottom 1ST B:2 S:2 O:1
Jose Bautista grounds out, second baseman Brandon Phillips to first baseman Adam Dunn.

Bottom 1ST B:2 S:0 O:1
Nate McLouth homers (2) on a fly ball to right field.

Bottom 1ST B:2 S:2 O:2
Freddy Sanchez grounds out, shortstop Felipe Lopez to first baseman Adam Dunn.

Bottom 1ST B:2 S:1 O:2
Jason Bay singles on a line drive to center fielder Ken GriffeyJr.

Bottom 1ST B:1 S:0 O:3
Jeromy Burnitz grounds out, second baseman Brandon Phillips to first baseman Adam Dunn.

captainmorgan07
05-17-2006, 08:46 PM
mclouth stirkes out 1 out

pedro
05-17-2006, 08:46 PM
Marc Lancaster in the booth with Marty. He's seems like he's trying to sneak a few ideas past Marty.

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:46 PM
Wow.

This team appears to be imploding in every aspect of the game right now.

Yeah, they're probably not this bad overall, but they're probably closer to what we're seeing now than what we saw in April.

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:46 PM
K baby

billy117
05-17-2006, 08:46 PM
nice effort by bp

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:47 PM
Now a DP would be excellent...........

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:47 PM
Marc Lancaster in the booth with Marty. He's seems like he's trying to sneak a few ideas past Marty.

What's he saying?

captainmorgan07
05-17-2006, 08:47 PM
heck of an effort by bp saved a few runs

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 08:48 PM
4-1.

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:48 PM
You have to figure Arroyo is due for another bad night. He's not a sub-3 pitcher, gang.what is known as BABIP regressing to the mean

Matt700wlw
05-17-2006, 08:48 PM
Yeah, they're probably not this bad overall, but they're probably closer to what we're seeing now than what we saw in April.


They're not as good as they were in April, and not as bad as they are right now.

billy117
05-17-2006, 08:48 PM
how can a team score three runs with no outs and the bases loaded I thought the most you were allowed in that situation was 1 on a dp

captainmorgan07
05-17-2006, 08:49 PM
arroyo strikes out bay need a big inning

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:49 PM
They're not as good as they were in April, and not as bad as they are right now.

That's what I said. :confused:

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:49 PM
This one may already be over.

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:49 PM
This one may already be over.
But it's not

pedro
05-17-2006, 08:50 PM
What's he saying?

They were talking about RISP and ML suggested that some statistically minded people don't think it's all that important.

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:50 PM
This one may already be over.I would be surprised if 4 is enough tonight

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:50 PM
But it's not

With Arroyo already up to 52 pitches?

Uh, yeah--it's over.

NatiRedGals
05-17-2006, 08:50 PM
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2893/untitled4uk1.png (http://imageshack.us)
Top 2ND B:0 S:0 O:0
David Ross singles on a bunt ground ball to catcher Ronny Paulino. David Ross advances to 2nd, on throwing error by catcher Ronny Paulino.

Top 2ND B:0 S:0 O:1
Bronson Arroyo reaches on a fielder's choice out, pitcher Oliver Perez to third baseman Jose Bautista. David Ross out at 3rd.

Top 2ND B:2 S:2 O:2
Ryan Freel lines out to left fielder Jason Bay.

Top 2ND B:2 S:3 O:3
Felipe Lopez strikes out swinging, catcher Ronny Paulino to first baseman Craig Wilson.


--------------------------- MIDDLE 2ND
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Bottom 2ND B:1 S:2 O:0
Craig Wilson singles on a ground ball to left fielder Ryan Freel.

Bottom 2ND B:2 S:2 O:0
Ronny Paulino singles on a line drive to left fielder Ryan Freel. Craig Wilson to 2nd.

Bottom 2ND B:1 S:2 O:0
Jose Castillo singles on a fly ball to right fielder Austin Kearns. Craig Wilson to 3rd. Ronny Paulino to 2nd.

Bottom 2ND B:0 S:0 O:0
Oliver Perez singles on a ground ball to right fielder Austin Kearns. Craig Wilson scores. Ronny Paulino scores. Jose Castillo to 3rd.

Bottom 2ND B:2 S:0 O:0
With Jose Bautista batting, Oliver Perez steals (1) 2nd base.

Bottom 2ND B:4 S:0 O:0
Jose Bautista walks.

Bottom 2ND B:2 S:3 O:1
Nate McLouth strikes out swinging.

Bottom 2ND B:0 S:0 O:2
Freddy Sanchez grounds into a force out, second baseman Brandon Phillips to shortstop Felipe Lopez. Jose Castillo scores. Oliver Perez to 3rd. Jose Bautista out at 2nd. Freddy Sanchez to 1st.

Bottom 2ND B:3 S:3 O:3
Jason Bay called out on strikes.

edabbs44
05-17-2006, 08:51 PM
http://www.mvps.org/st-software/Movie_Collection/images/2415f.jpg

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:52 PM
http://www.mvps.org/st-software/Movie_Collection/images/2415f.jpg


I know I got a kick out of 2005.

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:52 PM
If this game is over than why bother watching it, you know the outcome. Just leave.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 08:53 PM
nice, 2 pop ups. Yay. This 7.XX ERA Pitcher is owning us. Excellent.

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:53 PM
If this game is over than why bother watching it, you know the outcome. Just leave.

It helps to know how bad the Reds are.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:53 PM
They were talking about RISP and ML suggested that some statistically minded people don't think it's all that important.

I would have loved to heard Marty's reply to that.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:54 PM
Is PNC considered a hitter's or pitcher's park.........

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:54 PM
If this game is over than why bother watching it, you know the outcome. Just leave.
This one may already be over.

key word

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 08:54 PM
We suck.

MrCinatit
05-17-2006, 08:54 PM
So much for answering their rally with our own.

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:55 PM
Hey look Dunn struck out.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:55 PM
Dunn swung at ball 3. Glad to see him expanding his strikezone, it sure is working.

Perez and his 7.00+ ERA just sent the Reds 3-4-5 hitters down easily.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:55 PM
Hey look Dunn struck out.

A groundout would have been so much better!!!!!!

edabbs44
05-17-2006, 08:55 PM
Is PNC considered a hitter's or pitcher's park.........
Right now it is both for the Pirates.

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:56 PM
Dunn swung at ball 3. Glad to see him expanding his strikezone, it sure is working.

Perez and his 7.00+ ERA just sent the Reds 3-4-5 hitters down easily.
It is Narron's fault.

Redzone key #1, it is never Adam Dunn's fault.

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 08:56 PM
I'm telling you, if baseball is a game of turning points, getting Kearns out on that first pitch sac fly was definitely a turning point.

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:56 PM
A groundout would have been so much better!!!!!!
No, how about a hit?

CTA513
05-17-2006, 08:56 PM
A groundout would have been so much better!!!!!!

poping up the second pitch would have been better.

reds44
05-17-2006, 08:57 PM
I'm telling you, if baseball is a game of turning points, getting Kearns out on that first pitch sac fly was definitely a turning point.
:bang:

Did Kearns to something to your family?

flyer85
05-17-2006, 08:57 PM
interesting that what has killed both Maholm and Perez this year is excessive BBs. Maholm did not have that problem last night and it looks as if Perez has good command tonight (he had walked 27 in 32IP coming in).

paintmered
05-17-2006, 08:57 PM
Wtf?

We (the mods and admins) consider "wtf" masked profanity for your future reference. I'm not going to warn you because you probably didn't know about this. But please stop using it.

captainmorgan07
05-17-2006, 08:57 PM
burnitz bounces out to dunn who flips it to bronson

griffeyfreak4
05-17-2006, 08:58 PM
We (the mods and admins) consider "wtf" masked profanity for your future reference. I'm not going to warn you because you probably didn't know about this. But please stop using it.
My bad.:(

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 08:59 PM
It is Narron's fault.


Now you are finally learning.

paintmered
05-17-2006, 08:59 PM
And there are two out...

Ronny Paulino up to the dish.

GOREDSGO32
05-17-2006, 08:59 PM
SEASON OVER .. I give up ... way to blow the season guys.

indyred
05-17-2006, 08:59 PM
Don't be surprised to see Arroyo on that mound in the middle of July for the all-star game.......

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 09:00 PM
No, how about a hit?

No, a groundout would have been better. A hit wouldn't have mattered since no one was in scoring position. Soft hit.

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:00 PM
Now you are finally learning.
I know you were being sarcastic like I was.

Btw, Deno catches that one in his teeth.

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 09:00 PM
:bang:

Did Kearns to something to your family?

The longer the Reds hold on to Kearns, the more his value decreases. Very simple. Nothing personal. Just facts.

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:00 PM
SEASON OVER .. I give up ... way to blow the season guys.
I hope you were kidding.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:01 PM
I was telling myself we couldn't possibly be getting the Pirates 1,2,3!

NOPE!!!

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 09:01 PM
Seriously, if anyone here honestly believes that Freel and Deno wouldn't have got to that ball they're wrong.

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:01 PM
The longer the Reds hold on to Kearns, the more his value decreases. Very simple. Nothing personal. Just facts.
Ok that is fine.

His sac fly that inning wasn't the turning point. Maybe EE not getting a guy home was.


Btw, Freel catches that one with a beer cup.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:01 PM
Why didn't we try for Lou Pinella.

billy117
05-17-2006, 09:01 PM
no player in the history of baseball would have had that one

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:02 PM
Seriously, if anyone here honestly believes that Freel and Deno wouldn't have got to that ball they're wrong.

Freel could have had it.

paintmered
05-17-2006, 09:02 PM
SEASON OVER .. I give up ... way to blow the season guys.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

flyer85
05-17-2006, 09:02 PM
SEASON OVER .. I give up ... way to blow the season guys.another falls off the wagon

indyred
05-17-2006, 09:02 PM
teams a game out of first.........I'm loving this season......Welch ain't saying he is questioning Narron......aren't they allowed to second guess on the TV side.I'm sure Marty does....

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 09:03 PM
no player in the history of baseball would have had that one

Griffey almost had it, and Freel and Deno are both several steps faster than he is.

DunnFan44
05-17-2006, 09:03 PM
Look what Jim Leyland is doing with the Tigers....I am talking about the freakin Tigers. What is he 75???
The Manager does matter, but the bottom line is that the players need to perform.

Matt700wlw
05-17-2006, 09:03 PM
Why didn't we try for Lou Pinella.


They did, and they could again.

Lou is taking at least a year off...

Aronchis
05-17-2006, 09:03 PM
FCB, you got the worst bias. Kearns value is going UP as we have held on to him and he has responded with better hitting.

"Superstar" Austin Kearns is probably never going to happen as I wonder if it would of ever would of in the first place, but "solid" RF starter Kearns is happening.

Now somebody will give up talent for him, which they wouldn't have before.

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:03 PM
Seriously, if anyone here honestly believes that Freel and Deno wouldn't have got to that ball they're wrong.
This is from a recent rotoworld article.


Chris Denorfia - OF Reds - Age 25
.306/.379/.471, 3 HR, 11 RBI, 8/10 K/BB, 4 SB in 85 AB for Triple-A Louisville
.500/.556/.750, 0 HR, 1 RBI, 1/1 K/BB, 0 SB in 8 AB for Cincinnati

The Reds recently added Cody Ross to their bench, but Denorfia will be more worthy of regular at-bats should a job open up. The 2002 19th-round pick began drawing comparisons to Brady Clark while hitting .310/.391/.505 in 91 games after moving up to Triple-A last year, and he’s hit .304/.396/.478 in 46 at-bats during three stints with the Reds to date. He probably doesn’t quite have the range to be an everyday center fielder, but he’ll be OK there in bursts and he may hit well enough to be an acceptable corner outfielder in his prime. The Reds will probably have need for him at some point in the second half.

Projection: .275/.343/.427, 6 HR, 30 R, 29 RBI, 5 SB in 211 AB

Deno wouldn't have caught it.

Freel maybe, but I don't think so.

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:04 PM
Griffey almost had it, and Freel and Deno are both several steps faster than he is.
See my above post.

Btw, playing CF isn't just about speed.

billy117
05-17-2006, 09:04 PM
Griffey almost had it, and Freel and Deno are both several steps faster than he is.
willie mays would have had it

Aronchis
05-17-2006, 09:05 PM
This is from a recent rotoworld article.


Deno wouldn't have caught it.

Freel maybe.

You believe rotoworld mumblings? Ignore that, Deno would at least had a shot at it. When the ball falls into the gap in CF, Griffey no longer has the legs to make a run for it.

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:05 PM
You believe rotoworld mumblings? Ignore that, Deno would at least had a shot at it. When the ball falls into the gap in CF, Griffey no longer has the legs to make a run for it.
I believe it more then I believe redszone.

GOREDSGO32
05-17-2006, 09:05 PM
Can't beat the Pirates and Phillies once out of 5 games .. way to go ..

indyred
05-17-2006, 09:06 PM
Vince Coleman would have been waiting for it........;)

captainmorgan07
05-17-2006, 09:06 PM
ede walks

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:06 PM
Leadoff Walk - CAN WE DO ANYTHING?

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:07 PM
Leadoff Walk - CAN WE DO ANYTHING?
:confused:

captainmorgan07
05-17-2006, 09:07 PM
they way perez has pitched all year we are definately still in this game

indyred
05-17-2006, 09:07 PM
Jack Wilson on the Trivia

Strikes Out Looking
05-17-2006, 09:07 PM
I think Willie Mays isn't what he used to be, and that ball would have gotten by him tonight.

pedro
05-17-2006, 09:08 PM
I would have loved to heard Marty's reply to that.

He pretty much ignored it but to be fair to Marty it was right when the Pirates were getting hits and Marty had to break to describe the action.

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 09:08 PM
FCB, you got the worst bias. Kearns value is going UP as we have held on to him and he has responded with better hitting.

"Superstar" Austin Kearns is probably never going to happen as I wonder if it would of ever would of in the first place, but "solid" RF starter Kearns is happening.

Now somebody will give up talent for him, which they wouldn't have before.

I don't know how many times I have to say it: look at his game by game log--his OPS is slowly but steadily bottoming out. By June 1 it will be right in line with his career average, which is an average right fielder.

He looks like the same hitter as last season who happened to start on a hot streak this season.

captainmorgan07
05-17-2006, 09:08 PM
bp pops out to second base

edabbs44
05-17-2006, 09:08 PM
You believe rotoworld mumblings? Ignore that, Deno would at least had a shot at it. When the ball falls into the gap in CF, Griffey no longer has the legs to make a run for it.
I didn't see it, but Griffey still has the ability to get to balls. He just doesn't go all out b/c he knows the consequences. He is shell shocked in CF. He should volunteer to move to LF for the best of the team.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:08 PM
yay another pop up!!

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 09:08 PM
See my above post.

Btw, playing CF isn't just about speed.

That's great that rotoworld thinks Deno doesn't have enough range, but neither does Griffey. Bottom line, Deno is faster and has better range than Griffey.

I played center field for 6 years, I have an idea what it takes, and Griff just doesn't have it anymore. Thanks for the insight.

OnBaseMachine
05-17-2006, 09:09 PM
Phillips helps Perez out by swinging at a borderline 2-0 pitch and then popping out on a ball up out of the zone.

billy117
05-17-2006, 09:09 PM
at this point the important question is: who is a worse hitter right now freel or phillips?

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:09 PM
I didn't see it, but Griffey still has the ability to get to balls. He just doesn't go all out b/c he knows the consequences. He is shell shocked in CF. He should volunteer to move to LF for the best of the team.
Yay and then we can move Adam Dunn to where?

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:10 PM
2 outs.

edabbs44
05-17-2006, 09:10 PM
Yay and then we can move Adam Dunn to where?
1st..he's no worse at 1st than in LF.

DunnFan44
05-17-2006, 09:10 PM
Freel is a better lifetime hitter. Phillips is hitting around .220 lifetime.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:10 PM
Phillips helps Perez out by swinging at a borderline 2-0 pitch and then popping out on a ball up out of the zone.

This entire offense is helping him.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:11 PM
d

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:11 PM
I played center field for 6 years, I have an idea what it takes, and Griff just doesn't have it anymore. Thanks for the insight.
At what level?

redsfanmia
05-17-2006, 09:12 PM
Vince Coleman would have been waiting for it........;)
Vince Coleman played left and would probably be too busy throwing fire crackers at children.

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:12 PM
Btw, Griffey may be slow(er), but his ability to get jumps hasn't changed. He gets some of the best jumps in baseball still.

MartyFan
05-17-2006, 09:12 PM
Get a freakin GRIP!

This team was projected to be at or near the bottom of the dicision when the season started...they started hot, played over their heads and everyone was talking WORLD SERIES AND PLAYOFFS...this team is still over .500 and the bats are the reason they have lost the last several games...those bats are not going to be sleeping forever....get a grip, anything over .50 this year is a big step forward.

redsrule2500
05-17-2006, 09:12 PM
Reds strand 5, trail 4-1

edabbs44
05-17-2006, 09:13 PM
Arroyo can't hit...he should be benched. :)

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:13 PM
Was Arroyo early on the heater?

Falls City Beer
05-17-2006, 09:15 PM
Arroyo can't hit...he should be benched. :)

Arroyo's was the second-best AB of the night. :laugh:

Redlegs23
05-17-2006, 09:15 PM
At what level?

I played there 7th grade through high school. Yes, I realize it's a little different in the bigs, but I was just telling you I understand CF is more than just speed.

You can trust rotoworld all you want but I trust my own eyes, and my eyes tell me that Griffey doesn't have the range like he used too, and that Deno and Freel cover more ground out there.

reds44
05-17-2006, 09:15 PM
My bad, I overracted to what he said.

I apologize redlegs23.

BuckeyeRedleg
05-17-2006, 09:16 PM
I don't know how many times I have to say it: look at his game by game log--his OPS is slowly but steadily bottoming out. By June 1 it will be right in line with his career average, which is an average right fielder.

He looks like the same hitter as last season who happened to start on a hot streak this season.

I agree with this.