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savafan
05-18-2006, 03:47 AM
Does anyone know what kind of run support Arroyo has gotten on the season? It seems like the offense goes to sleep whenever he pitches, even though they've been in a five game slumber no matter who's pitching. I just can't recall a single Arroyo start where he's gotten any run support. It's getting 2002 Dessensesque here.

SteelSD
05-18-2006, 03:56 AM
Does anyone know what kind of run support Arroyo has gotten on the season? It seems like the offense goes to sleep whenever he pitches, even though they've been in a five game slumber no matter who's pitching. I just can't recall a single Arroyo start where he's gotten any run support. It's getting 2002 Dessensesque here.

5.67 Runs per Game.

That ranks 11th in the NL.

Harang leads the NL with 7.29 R/G.

savafan
05-18-2006, 03:59 AM
I must be watching the games with one eye shut.

Guacarock
05-18-2006, 04:33 AM
Actually, the Reds' hardluck pitcher so far this season has been Claussen. Twice in his 8 starts, the offense has been completely shut down. And three times, they have scored only 1 run for him. All told, the offense has given him 23 runs of support in his eight starts, or an average of 2.87 per game. If the offense had come through for him like they have for Arroyo and Harang, Claussen's record could well be 4-2 right now, instead of 2-4.

Claussen has really only had one disastrous start -- the game in Milwaukee when he surrendered 9 runs in 3 innings. Expunge it from his permanent record and his ERA would be hovering around 3.60 right now, quite respectable.

On the flip side, Claussen has yielded 10 HR so far, 4 of them that bum day when he went lame against the Brewers. Time will tell if he can control that aspect of his game or enter Miltonian territory.

Guacarock
05-18-2006, 04:49 AM
The other Reds starter who has been shown no man love is Ramirez. In his four starts, the offense has put up 11 runs, or 2.75 a game. That explains his 1-3 record while the kid has posted a 3.13 ERA. That has to be tough to take, although getting bumped out of the rotation probably stung worse.

Ramirez has youth going for him. He'll certainly bounce back -- and probably soon -- if he's the real deal and can sustain anywhere close to a 3.13 ERA over a longer haul.

Only two other Reds' pitchers, Arroyo and Coffey, currently boast stingier ERAs than Ramirez. Given just how bad, lame or erratic most of our pitchers have been, especially the relievers, Ramirez should soon enough have a clearly defined role on the staff, either in the rotation or as a second go-to bullpen option alongside Coffey.

reds44
05-18-2006, 11:55 PM
The other Reds starter who has been shown no man love is Ramirez. In his four starts, the offense has put up 11 runs, or 2.75 a game. That explains his 1-3 record while the kid has posted a 3.13 ERA. That has to be tough to take, although getting bumped out of the rotation probably stung worse.

Ramirez has youth going for him. He'll certainly bounce back -- and probably soon -- if he's the real deal and can sustain anywhere close to a 3.13 ERA over a longer haul.

Only two other Reds' pitchers, Arroyo and Coffey, currently boast stingier ERAs than Ramirez. Given just how bad, lame or erratic most of our pitchers have been, especially the relievers, Ramirez should soon enough have a clearly defined role on the staff, either in the rotation or as a second go-to bullpen option alongside Coffey.
Thatta boys.Way to help out the young kid.

I am sure if he continues to get starts that his run support will rise.

NastyBoy
05-19-2006, 05:18 AM
The 1982 Reds averaged 3.36 runs per game. The team ERA was 3.66. Mario Soto went 14-13, 2.79 ERA on a team that lost 101 games. He should have won a Cy Young award in 1983, but he pitched for a really crappy last place team and lost to John Denny. Ironically, Denny was later traded to Reds in 1985 for Gary Redus and Tom Hume.

savafan
05-19-2006, 06:02 AM
The 1982 Reds averaged 3.36 runs per game. The team ERA was 3.66. Mario Soto went 14-13, 2.79 ERA on a team that lost 101 games. He should have won a Cy Young award in 1983, but he pitched for a really crappy last place team and lost to John Denny. Ironically, Denny was later traded to Reds in 1985 for Gary Redus and Tom Hume.

http://www.kdbm-kbev.com/PROGRAMS/PAUL_HARVEY.jpg

And now you know...the rest of the story.