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red-in-la
05-19-2006, 02:29 AM
Reds go to play the team with the best record in baseball and where do the Cards go?......again this year? To Kansas City.....that's where.:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

Don't reply to this thread saying they do it every year.....I know they do, it just stinks as far as I am concerned.:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

These 6 games each year where St. Louis gets to play a minor league team (at best) while everybody else has to play ML basbeall is just rotten to the core.:mooner: :mooner: :mooner: :mooner: :mooner:

I like St. Louis baseball, I really do, but this is the one thing that burns me up every year. Had to waste a post with this because when I yell it at my wife she sends me to my room.:help: :help: :help: :help:

The Baumer
05-19-2006, 03:01 AM
Don't reply to this thread

Ooops!

KronoRed
05-19-2006, 03:13 AM
Not the Cards fault the Royals suck rocks ;)

NastyBoy
05-19-2006, 04:10 AM
The Cards plays the first place east team and win 2 out of 3. The Reds last place central team that has won 11 games all year and lose 2 out or 3.

Now the fortunes are reversed. It all about taking care of your own business.

GridironGrace
05-19-2006, 05:13 AM
ah.... and in a few weeks we'll play someone crappy while the cards play the best............tis baseball lmao

oneupper
05-19-2006, 06:09 AM
Actually this year we get three against KC, because we are playing AL Central teams in the Interleague games.

Usually it's 6 vs. Cleveland (a good team the past few years) while the Cards get 6 vs KC, Hou gets Tex, Mil gets Minn (I'm guessing), The Cubs get the Sox and Pitts gets Detroit (guessing again).

I say our natural rivals are the Louisville Bats. They're the closest team..and we should play them!

(Pss Bats...you guys know what to do!)

Red in Chicago
05-19-2006, 07:39 AM
i'm not thrilled with going north this weekend...the tigers have been playing great...however, there comes a point when every winning streak comes to an end, let's just hope it today ;)

membengal
05-19-2006, 07:41 AM
The Cards plays the first place east team and win 2 out of 3. The Reds last place central team that has won 11 games all year and lose 2 out or 3.

Now the fortunes are reversed. It all about taking care of your own business.

Yes, and eventually the Reds will have to deal with the Mets too, that part evens out.

You are missing the point...it is NOT just about taking care of your own business, because the Cards get SIX games against the dreck that is the Royals. And the Royals have been so gawd-awful for so long now, that that fact is extremely unfair to the rest of the teams in the Central (and NL for that matter) who don't get that advantage. Three games against the Royals this year is nice, six games would sure be better.

It is a good point every year, because it is unfair every year. It is genuinely a surprise when the Royals win a game from the Cardinals.

RedFanAlways1966
05-19-2006, 08:50 AM
I wholeheartedly agree with red-in-la and membengal. There should not be 6 games against any team from the other league. If you do interleague, then 3 games against 4 teams. With the uneven number of teams in divisions, you might not play the same 4 teams. However, no one should play two series against one team form the other league (no matter the geography).

MLB DOES NOT need the "extra revenue" from geogrpahical "rivalries" (please!) to stay afloat. KC vs. St. Louis.... boy, what a rivalry that is. I am sure the few KC fans that are left just love playing their "big-time rival" 6 times (and gettin' smacked around).

More reason to understand why Bud Selig and his cronies are masters of crud.

MattyHo4Life
05-19-2006, 09:22 AM
These 6 games each year where St. Louis gets to play a minor league team (at best) while everybody else has to play ML basbeall is just rotten to the core.:mooner: :mooner: :mooner: :mooner: :mooner:

You mean 3 games a year. This year it is 6 only because the NL Central plays the AL Central.

Strikes Out Looking
05-19-2006, 09:24 AM
Interleague stinks. End of story.

MattyHo4Life
05-19-2006, 09:28 AM
MLB DOES NOT need the "extra revenue" from geogrpahical "rivalries" (please!) to stay afloat. KC vs. St. Louis.... boy, what a rivalry that is. I am sure the few KC fans that are left just love playing their "big-time rival" 6 times (and gettin' smacked around).


The Cardinals don't consider the Royals much of a rivaly, but it is a huge rivalry to the Royals. The Royals demand 3 games against the Cardinals in KC every year, because it does help their revenue. This year, the Royals come to St. Louis, but it isn't always that way. If the Cards and Royals only play 3 games in a season, then they will likely be in KC to try to get Royals fans to the games. The Royals are far from good, but they usually play better against the Cardinals.

OldXOhio
05-19-2006, 10:09 AM
I'll take games against a team on a long winning streak any day. Eventually, all streaks come to an end. Oftentimes, they're followed by some form of drought or futility.

May not be a bad time to be catching the Tigers.

MattyHo4Life
05-19-2006, 10:11 AM
This is the first time I've heard anyone complain about having to play the Tigers. ;)

indyred
05-19-2006, 10:11 AM
I guess I don't mind....Things always even out........I always believe it's when you play them and not who.....Even terrible teams can get hot and beat better teams.....The NFL has a very unbalanced sked, where teams in the same division don't play the exact same sked as other's......In baseball you play each team in your own divison so many times now, that helps balance things out a bit more...........

MattyHo4Life
05-19-2006, 10:35 AM
I guess I don't mind....Things always even out........I always believe it's when you play them and not who.....Even terrible teams can get hot and beat better teams

Exactly! For example, every team in the NL Central plays 6 games against teams in the other NL divisions. Those 6 games may be split so that you play 3 games in April and 3 games in September. Well...a team like the Phillies or the Diamondbacks may be completely different in April than they are in September. They may be a first place team in April, and a last place team by the time September comes around. Teams in the other NL divisions that play the Cubs before Lee, Prior, and Wood will obviously be playing a lesser team than those that play the Cubs later in the season. It al levens out in the end though. Last year the Cardinals were 2-1 against the Royals. It didn't factor into the final results at all, and I doubt it makes a difference this year either.

PuffyPig
05-19-2006, 10:41 AM
I'll take games against a team on a long winning streak any day. Eventually, all streaks come to an end.


Vegas will teach you that it doesn't pay to bet against a streak.

Yes, all streaks must come to an end, but the odds favour it continuing in the meantime.

Newman4
05-19-2006, 11:23 AM
I guess I don't mind....Things always even out........I always believe it's when you play them and not who.....Even terrible teams can get hot and beat better teams.....The NFL has a very unbalanced sked, where teams in the same division don't play the exact same sked as other's......In baseball you play each team in your own divison so many times now, that helps balance things out a bit more...........

The problem is the Reds "natural rival" is the Indians and the Cards is the Royals. The Indians are pretty much always better than the Royals. Thus, the schedule in favor of the Cards.

The NFL I believe schedules based on the team's record from the previous year. The first place team plays a tougher schedule than say the last place team. MLB doesn't do that.

REDREAD
05-19-2006, 11:40 AM
More reason to understand why Bud Selig and his cronies are masters of crud.

Actually, we have our very own John Allen to thank for that. In either the first or second year of interleague play, the Reds were going to play the Indians series away only. Allen managed to trade a series (it may have even been the Royals ) for an extra appearance with the Indians. I think it was 1999. The following year, Bud and those guys instituted the "natural rival" scheduling BS.

You're right, it's absurd to make the schedule unfair just for the sake of a couple thousand extra dollars. Like you said, I doubt the Royals coming to St Louis even sells extra tickets. In fact, since the Royals are so bad, it may be a negative factor. I know they said on the radio once that when bad interleague teams (like Tampa, Royals, etc) come to an NL stadium, they are usually some of the worst draws.

I think interleague play has run its course. I'd like to drop the whole thing and go back to balanced schedules within the league. It's not fair that the weak NL west teams play each other more times too, and get a boost in the wild card race.

OldXOhio
05-19-2006, 11:41 AM
Vegas will teach you that it doesn't pay to bet against a streak.

Yes, all streaks must come to an end, but the odds favour it continuing in the meantime.

Ah yes, the Vegas streak theory....I'm very familiar with that one.

I'm in a line of work where momentum is often king, so while I won't disagree with you, I will say that merely "adhering to the streak" can also get you killed. Detroit's train will lose its steam - the longer it runs, the higher the chance it will break down.

RedsManRick
05-19-2006, 11:47 AM
The Cards are the Packers to the Royals' Vikings. Definitely more of a one-way rivalry.

TeamBoone
05-19-2006, 01:23 PM
I agree that 3 games against teams in Interleague play is enough. If it's a "natural" rival, they play at home one year and away the next. Six against one team is three too many.

IMHO, teams should NEVER play out-of-league teams as often as they play out-of-division teams within their own league.

Falls City Beer
05-19-2006, 01:27 PM
I agree that 3 games against teams in Interleague play is enough. If it's a "natural" rival, they play at home one year and away the next. Six against one team is three too many.

IMHO, teams should NEVER play out-of-league teams as often as they play out-of-division teams within their own league.

Yeah, efforts to regularize the schedule should be made whenever possible. I can't stand the imbalance of that quirk, either.

However, I'd say the Cards' gift of the Royals has hurt a team like Houston much more than it has Cincy; the Reds haven't been within sniffing distance of the Cards for an eternity, so it's been a pretty null issue on this front.

Safe at Home
05-19-2006, 01:29 PM
They just gonna have kick Tiger Tail!!!!!

dsmith421
05-19-2006, 01:40 PM
Both interleague play and the unbalanced schedule were stupid ideas when instituted and worse ideas now.

If the Reds are competing against the entire National League (which we are, for a wild card spot), we should play an identical schedule to everyone else. Same number of games against all teams in the NL, no interleague play. Anything else is inherently unfair.

If baseball wants the revenue from a Yankees-Mets series (which is what this is all about, at heart), then have them play exhibitions on off days.

Safe at Home
05-19-2006, 01:43 PM
But man can you imagine how much they make off those weekend series with the NY and CHICAGO TEAMS. We couldnt imagine how much they pull in.You know NY is making a haul up there.......

KronoRed
05-19-2006, 04:49 PM
Interleague stinks. End of story.
Agreed.

It was fun for about 2 years, get rid of it..and the DH..in fact..get rid of the entire AL :D

MattyHo4Life
05-19-2006, 06:07 PM
I agree that 3 games against teams in Interleague play is enough. If it's a "natural" rival, they play at home one year and away the next. Six against one team is three too many.

I agree, but it doesn't happen that way. In 2003, the two teams played a 3 game series in KC and a 3 game series in St. Louis. In 2004 and 2005 the Cardinals played a 3 game series in KC. The Rotals haven't been to St. Louis since 2003.

MattyHo4Life
05-19-2006, 06:10 PM
However, I'd say the Cards' gift of the Royals has hurt a team like Houston much more than it has Cincy; the Reds haven't been within sniffing distance of the Cards for an eternity, so it's been a pretty null issue on this front.

True, but the Astros play the Rangers, and they aren't usually much better than the Royals year after year.