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Buckaholic
05-22-2006, 06:49 PM
When Ozzie Smith repeated his hope he would be welcomed with open arms by the St. Louis management after La Russa was gone, the Cardinals skipper countered by bad-mouthing the hall-of-famer.

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Now, I'm not going to pretend I understand Smith's frustration with La Russa or agree with his grudge, but you would think La Russa would take the high road and not come out swinging.

La Russa is making a mistake here with the Cardinals faithful in my opinion. He should make every attempt to come across as welcoming and eager to put this feud with Smith behind them, then it's Smith that looks like he won't get over it.

Instead, Smith reiterates he isn't welcomed by current management, and instead of extending his hand further to get Smith back into the graces of the organization, La Russa publicly berates him and says he doesn't want to ever see him again? Wow. That's bold.

BuckeyeRedleg
05-22-2006, 07:12 PM
Smith has always come across to me as one of those guys that's not very modest about his achievements. Think Joe Morgan, except without the offensive talent.

And La Russa? What do you expect? He is what he is.

Ozzie Smith. Good ballplayer.

But he ain't no Barry Larkin.

KronoRed
05-22-2006, 07:19 PM
I think they both need the high road.

killuminati35
05-22-2006, 07:49 PM
This isn't really a surprise coming out of somebody from the Cardinals organization. This is the team that allows Al Hrabowski and Mike Shannon to call games. I have never heard two announcers bad mouth the opposing team quite like these two.

Chip R
05-22-2006, 07:50 PM
This sounds similar to the Larkin/John Allen feud. I am guessing that Cards fans do not dwell on this feud since the Cards have done so well recently. They may not like LaRussa as much as they did Ozzie, or Whitey for that matter, but as long as the Cards are winning, LaRussa will be tolerated, if not embraced.

KoryMac5
05-22-2006, 08:11 PM
Smith is still upset at Larussa for starting Clayton over him. He had offered Smith a chance to be a spring training instructor but recinded the offer after Smith's recent comments. It boils down to two guys thinking they are bigger than they actually are.

MattyHo4Life
05-23-2006, 02:37 AM
La Russa is making a mistake here with the Cardinals faithful in my opinion. He should make every attempt to come across as welcoming and eager to put this feud with Smith behind them, then it's Smith that looks like he won't get over it.

I disagree. I think most Cardinals fans are as fed up with the way Ozzie has acted towards the Cardinals organization over the last 10 years as LaRussa is. For 10 years, LaRussa did exactly as you stated he should. He welcomed Ozzie back, invoted him to Spring Training as an instructor, ect, ect, ect. Cardinals fans know that it is Smith that won't get over it. LaRussa has tried taking the high road for 10 years. I don't blame him for finally giving up since it is obvious that Ozzie has no intention of ever giving up this one sided feud.

RedFanAlways1966
05-23-2006, 01:56 PM
I disagree. I think most Cardinals fans are as fed up with the way Ozzie has acted towards the Cardinals organization over the last 10 years as LaRussa is. For 10 years, LaRussa did exactly as you stated he should. He welcomed Ozzie back, invoted him to Spring Training as an instructor, ect, ect, ect. Cardinals fans know that it is Smith that won't get over it. LaRussa has tried taking the high road for 10 years. I don't blame him for finally giving up since it is obvious that Ozzie has no intention of ever giving up this one sided feud.

Nice to hear the view of someone who follows the team closely. :thumbup:

OldXOhio
05-23-2006, 02:08 PM
This isn't really a surprise coming out of somebody from the Cardinals organization. This is the team that allows Al Hrabowski and Mike Shannon to call games. I have never heard two announcers bad mouth the opposing team quite like these two.

Take a listen to a Cubs game some time. You may rethink your last statement.

OldXOhio
05-23-2006, 02:11 PM
It boils down to two guys thinking they are bigger than they actually are.


Perhaps, but we're not even talking about this if Ozzie doesn't open his cake hole about it again. I don't blame Larussa one bit in this instance.

Buckaholic
05-23-2006, 06:25 PM
I'm not saying Ozzie's grudge isn't a bit immature, but I mean Smith is more of a Cardinal to me as a baseball fan than La Russa. What has La Russa done for the Cardinals as a manager? Smith is the greatest defensive shortstop of all time and even if he's going to be petty about the whole thing, La Russa should just let him keep his distance and forget about it.

I don't know, I don't blame La Russa for being mad but in his position, I just don't see an advantage to playing this game with Smith.

MattyHo4Life
05-23-2006, 09:54 PM
I'm not saying Ozzie's grudge isn't a bit immature, but I mean Smith is more of a Cardinal to me as a baseball fan than La Russa. What has La Russa done for the Cardinals as a manager? Smith is the greatest defensive shortstop of all time and even if he's going to be petty about the whole thing, La Russa should just let him keep his distance and forget about it.

I don't know, I don't blame La Russa for being mad but in his position, I just don't see an advantage to playing this game with Smith.


LaRussa took the high road for 10 years. He tried to stay quiet and do everything right. He even invited Ozzie to Spring Training. After 10 years, he just got fed up with it, and I can understand his frustration. Afterall, I don't think he did anything wrong in the first place.

BuckeyeRedleg
05-23-2006, 11:10 PM
Don't forget, Ozzie could do really cool back-flips.

Somewhere Barry Larkin is dusting his trophies and wondering when a few of his missing gold gloves are going to be returned to their rightful owner.

Tony Cloninger
05-23-2006, 11:28 PM
As all great players do.....OS has an ego that sometimes borders on thinking himself better than he was.

He forced his way out of SD (traded for Templeton after his Danny Graves like gesture to the STL fans in 1981) beacuse he complained about not being paid top money for his defensive prowess.....forget the fact he was a .230 hitter with no power or OB skills. He figured he could bank roll that diving stop and throw out of Jeff Burroughs that made all the highlights, before there was an ESPN.

Turns out that Smith was better all around than Templeton (that NEVER should have been the case) in the long run. I think he figures that STL fans will love him no matter what.

MattyHo4Life
05-24-2006, 12:26 AM
Turns out that Smith was better all around than Templeton (that NEVER should have been the case) in the long run. I think he figures that STL fans will love him no matter what.
He's probably right, but a lot of people are getting really tired of this act. Ozzie will always be popular in St. Louis, but he may not be as popular as Willie McGee.

Boston Red
05-24-2006, 12:41 AM
Maybe LaRussa didn't do anything wrong, but didn't Ozzie actually outplay Clayton? And LaRussa still sat him for Clayton, right?

Of course, ten years is a long time to hold a grudge over that, and it's not like LaGenius hasn't made plenty of additional mistakes over the years while trying to re-invent the game ever day.

MattyHo4Life
05-24-2006, 01:35 AM
Maybe LaRussa didn't do anything wrong, but didn't Ozzie actually outplay Clayton? And LaRussa still sat him for Clayton, right?

Ozzie had a horrible 1995 season, so the Cardinals owners decided to find a replacement. They didn't have anyone coming up through the minors, so they traded for Royce Clayton to be Ozzie's replacement. Ozzie went out and had a much better year in 1996, and he did play better than Clayton. The team viewed Clayton as their future shortstop, so LaRussa played him more instead of Ozzie. It wasn't his decision to replace Ozzie in the first place. He just played with the hand that he was dealt.

CySeymour
05-24-2006, 10:56 AM
What has La Russa done for the Cardinals as a manager?

Going to the World Series ain't too shabby.

westofyou
05-24-2006, 10:58 AM
Going to the World Series ain't too shabby.

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