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Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 06:52 PM
Starting Lineups:


Brewers (23 - 22)
4th in NL Central
Reds (26 - 19)
2nd in NL Central

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. R Weeks, 2B .293 4 12 9
2. B Clark, CF .265 1 9 1
3. G Jenkins, RF .273 7 30 2
4. C Lee, LF .273 15 39 3
5. P Fielder, 1B .323 8 24 3
6. B Hall, SS .293 10 21 0
7. C Koskie, 3B .288 5 17 0
8. C Moeller, C .265 2 5 0
9. D Eveland, P .000 0 0 0

Starting Lineup

Name AVG HR RBI SB
1. F Lopez, SS .303 5 18 16
2. B Phillips, 2B .308 4 31 9
3. K Griffey Jr., CF .244 5 21 0
4. R Aurilia, 1B .267 6 14 1
5. A Dunn, LF .231 16 31 1
6. A Kearns, RF .290 9 29 2
7. E Encarnacion, 3B .263 6 29 0
8. J LaRue, C .233 3 8 0
9. E Ramirez, P .143 0 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
D Eveland 0 0 8.44 1.97 10

Starting Pitcher
Name W L ERA* WHIP K
E Ramirez 1 3 3.38 1.38 18

BRM
05-23-2006, 06:52 PM
How many other teams have part-time players hitting cleanup?

KronoRed
05-23-2006, 06:53 PM
What did Kearns do last night to be slid to 6th?

RedsManRick
05-23-2006, 06:54 PM
I agree. I don't quite get the logic of a part time clean up guy -- especially with 3 quality hitters behind him, including 1 future HR champ.

BRM
05-23-2006, 06:54 PM
What did Kearns do last night to be slid to 6th?

Went 2-4 with a homer.

KronoRed
05-23-2006, 06:55 PM
Went 2-4 with a homer.
Obviously it's not clutch enough.

reds44
05-23-2006, 06:56 PM
Obviously it's not clutch enough.
Soft 2-4.

Just like Adam Dunn's homer last night.

;)

BRM
05-23-2006, 06:56 PM
Obviously it's not clutch enough.

It wasn't. The HR came in a blowout. ;)

LincolnparkRed
05-23-2006, 07:03 PM
I kinda like him behind Dunn. He should see some good pitches since the pitcher might relax after facing the Donkey and leave one up for AK. I really have no problems with this lineup other than I thought Javy always caught the Lizard?

reds44
05-23-2006, 07:04 PM
Please get the Lizard some runs tonight.

Heath
05-23-2006, 07:06 PM
Wow - EdE's been in a little slump. Phillips got going last night again, its time for EdE now.

reds44
05-23-2006, 07:12 PM
I really have no problems with this lineup other than I thought Javy always caught the Lizard?
Good point. Why change up something that is working? Is the Brewers pitcher a lefty?

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 07:18 PM
What did Kearns do last night to be slid to 6th?

What has Aurilia done not to bat cleanup when he's in the lineup?

Both logics make sense, but I have no problem with it.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 07:21 PM
Aurilia's HR and RBI pro-rated to the # of AB's Kearns and Dunn have would look pretty good. He's shown an ability to drive in runs. That's what you want out of the 4th hitter, regardless of his name.

Heath
05-23-2006, 07:21 PM
Good point. Why change up something that is working? Is the Brewers pitcher a lefty?

Yes, Eveland is a lefty. Ross caught last night, its LaRue's turn.

I'm wondering what the wait is on Valentin. I have a feeling he's next on the hit parade after White & Burns & McCracken.

Speaking Eveland - He's the Brewers' Dave Williams. Yikes - Lefties .364 BA/.916 OPS and righties .303 BA/.880 OPS against him.

KronoRed
05-23-2006, 07:22 PM
What has Aurilia done not to bat cleanup when he's in the lineup?

Quite a lot, since coming off the DL he's 1-12.

pedro
05-23-2006, 07:22 PM
What has Aurilia done not to bat cleanup when he's in the lineup?

Both logics make sense, but I have no problem with it.

Not that I really care either way, but it is interesting.

batting #4
(46 ab's) .239 .300 .457 .757

batting #3 (33 ab's)

.364 .432 .758 1.190

reds44
05-23-2006, 07:24 PM
Yes, Eveland is a lefty. Ross caught last night, its LaRue's turn.

I'm wondering what the wait is on Valentin. I have a feeling he's next on the hit parade after White & Burns.
Tonight Felipe needs to show that he can lead a team. Javy was the one to go out to the mound when Elizardo got rattled and calm him down. With LaRue behind the plate tonight Felipe needs to be the one to go calm him down. At 23 Elizardo still needs someone to be a "father figure" while on the field. Felipe is only 26, but as the SS of team tonight is the night he needs to show he can be a leader.

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 07:26 PM
Quite a lot, since coming off the DL he's 1-12.

Hmmm...maybe I missed something.

It adds some more pop toward the bottom of the lineup though. Hard to pitch around anyone tonight.

wheels
05-23-2006, 07:26 PM
Over his last seven games, Rich Aurilia is sporting a hefty .547 OPS.

Small sample, of course, but when there are better options available, it doesn't make much sense to bat him in the cleanup spot.

Hopefully some hits fall in for him, or flashes some of his slugging flair.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 07:37 PM
I like it.... But I like every line up I see.

SirFelixCat
05-23-2006, 07:48 PM
I like the lineup, and as you may have read in the Non-baseball area, I could use some good news today. Go get'em fellas.

Doc. Scott
05-23-2006, 07:51 PM
Eveland is listed as 220 pounds (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/547371) on CBS Sportsline and 258 pounds (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6353)on ESPN. Either way, he looks to be something of a power pitcher, which is a relief because we can't ever hit the guys who throw 84 and have moxie and chutzpah.

pedro
05-23-2006, 07:52 PM
Eveland is listed as 220 pounds (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/547371) on CBS Sportsline and 258 pounds (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6353)on ESPN. Either way, he looks to be something of a power pitcher, which is a relief because we can't ever hit the guys who throw 84 and have moxie and chutzpah.

Given that Eveland seems to be rather well-fed and is from Olympia, I'm picturing a hippie-r King Hippo.


It seems that way to me too. The Reds do seem to do much better against power pitchers than guys who throw junk.

disclaimer: despite my supposed membership to the OPS is god and I don't watch games club the above statement is based entirely on opinion and is in no way meant to be used as an actual factual representation of reality (with the blood and the kicking and the biting with the metal teeth...)

reds44
05-23-2006, 07:54 PM
They really need to stop with these fan interviews on FSN.

Btw that guy has to post here.

Joseph
05-23-2006, 07:57 PM
I like it.... But I like every line up I see.

You're easy.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 07:59 PM
I agree. I don't quite get the logic of a part time clean up guy -- especially with 3 quality hitters behind him, including 1 future HR champ.

Dunn isn't the most dependable guy to have at the plate with runners on.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 08:01 PM
Dunn isn't the most dependable guy to have at the plate with runners on.

We get it. You don't like Dunn.

You have not only beat the dead horse, but you picked it up and body slammed it, gave it the people's elbow, and then kicked it in the sack.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 08:06 PM
We get it. You don't like Dunn.

You have not only beat the dead horse, but you picked it up and body slammed it, gave it the people's elbow, and then kicked it in the sack.

There was a ref bump, therefore, it ain't over yet. Unless the Million Dollar Dream is used...

Chip R
05-23-2006, 08:08 PM
I kinda like him behind Dunn. He should see some good pitches since the pitcher might relax after facing the Donkey and leave one up for AK. I really have no problems with this lineup other than I thought Javy always caught the Lizard?

Maybe Jason took a Berlitz course in Spanish over the weekend. ;)

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 08:08 PM
Wow, I never said I don't like Dunn!! Dunn is one of my favorite players, but I think it's justifiable to place him lower in the lineup than players like Rich Aurilla.

westofyou
05-23-2006, 08:10 PM
Wow, I never said I don't like Dunn!! Dunn is one of my favorite players, but I think it's justifiable to place him lower in the lineup than players like Rich Aurilla.
Rich Aurilia?

Ok.....

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:11 PM
Weeks leads off with a 4 pitch walk.

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 08:11 PM
That's not a good way to start

paintmered
05-23-2006, 08:11 PM
Dunn isn't the most dependable guy to have at the plate with runners on.

Oh for the love, give it a rest already.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:14 PM
Clark grounds out to 2nd. Good play behind 2nd for Phillips. 1 out. Runner goes to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:16 PM
Jenkins grounds out to 1st. Good play by Aurilia. Runner goes to 3rd. 2 outs.

reds44
05-23-2006, 08:16 PM
Wow what a play by RA!

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 08:16 PM
Nice play for Rich!

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:17 PM
Lee pops out to 2nd. 0-0 mid 1st.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:20 PM
Yost got ejected between innings. Probably because the ump was warning Clark about trying to intentionally lean into a pitch to get hit.

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 08:20 PM
Good rebound for the Lizard.

Ned Yost tossed during the break.

Joseph
05-23-2006, 08:22 PM
Yost is a menace!

Kidding.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:22 PM
Bottom 1st Brewers 0 Reds 0

Lopez grounds out to 2nd on a 3-2 pitch. 1 out.

pedro
05-23-2006, 08:22 PM
BTW- Phillips made a great play on the SS side of 2B that inning.

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 08:23 PM
Yost got ejected between innings. Probably because the ump was warning Clark about trying to intentionally lean into a pitch to get hit.


Marty: "Brady Clark didn't like it? Well, they should get a crying towel for him then."

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 08:24 PM
Why was Yost so mad? Did I miss something?

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:24 PM
Phillips strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 08:26 PM
Griffey Double, 2 outs

Griffey has more Homers than Doubles.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:26 PM
Junior lines a double down the right field line.

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 08:26 PM
Denorfia would have scored on that play ;) :D

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:27 PM
Aurilia lines a single to center. 1-0 Reds.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 08:28 PM
Yes!! 1-0 Reds

Aurilla comes in with the key hit! (Would Dunn have done the same...?)

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 08:28 PM
Aurilia knocks in his 600th career run.

:clap:

westofyou
05-23-2006, 08:29 PM
Yes!! 1-0 Reds

Aurilla comes in with the key hit! (Would Dunn have done the same...?)
Rich Aurila rulze

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:29 PM
Dunn walks on 4 pitches. 1st and 2nd with 2 outs.

reds44
05-23-2006, 08:32 PM
Yes!! 1-0 Reds

Aurilla comes in with the key hit! (Would Dunn have done the same...?)
Didn't we put a gamethread over here to avoid this kind of stuff?

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:32 PM
Kearns strikes out looking on a pitch on the inside corner. 1-0 Reds after 1.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:35 PM
Top 2nd Brewers 0 Reds 1

Fielder grounds out to 1st. 1 out.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 08:36 PM
You're easy.

Thanks, I know.

VR
05-23-2006, 08:36 PM
Phillips trying to yank all pitches, after great success last night going to right a couple of times. I'd really like to see him get better discipline, because he's got tremendous bat speed and coverage in the zone.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 08:36 PM
Didn't we put a gamethread over here to avoid this kind of stuff?

I would agree, but people were complaining about the position of Dunn in the lineup, but I commented about how I would prefer Aurilla cleanup. Aurilla got a solid basehit up the middle, so I commented again on how I liked the position of Aurilla.

Let's not get to touchy-feely about baseball players, please

Chip R
05-23-2006, 08:36 PM
Denorfia would have scored on that play ;) :D

Twice. ;)

BTW, Naitch looking good tonight both on O and D.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:37 PM
Hall flies out to the warning track in center. 2 outs.

kbrake
05-23-2006, 08:37 PM
Denorfia would have scored on that play ;) :D

Thats classic. Love it Matt.

Nugget
05-23-2006, 08:38 PM
Didn't we put a gamethread over here to avoid this kind of stuff?

Rookie with a rookie mistake.

Just a question about who will be pitching after Lizard (ie. SP tomorrow)?

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:39 PM
Koskie reaches on an infield single. Good effort by Encarnacion to get the ball but Koskie beats the throw.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:39 PM
Moeller flies out to Kearns. 1-0 Reds mid 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:40 PM
Rookie with a rookie mistake.

Just a question about who will be pitching after Lizard (ie. SP tomorrow)?Claussen starts tomorrow.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:42 PM
Bottom 2nd Brewers 0 Reds 1

Encarnacion flies out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:43 PM
Larue grounds out to 3rd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:45 PM
After getting the right helmet Ramirez lines a single to center.

MrCinatit
05-23-2006, 08:45 PM
ah-HA - so, the hitting is all in the helmet!

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:47 PM
Lopez strikes out swinging on a pitch in the dirt. The catcher throws him out at 1st. Someone would have been out anyway because Ramirez just stood at 1st. 1-0 Reds after 2.

CTA513
05-23-2006, 08:48 PM
Didnt Ramirez always batted left handed? I wonder if the Reds told him to bat right handed.

:confused:

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 08:48 PM
That was a classic at-bat for Ramirez.... I had a good laugh on that one.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:49 PM
Didnt Ramirez always batted left handed? I wonder if the Reds told him to bat right handed.

:confused:
That is true. He is listed as batting left. No wonder he had on the wrong helmet.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:50 PM
Top 3rd Brewers 0 Reds 1

Eveland grounds out to short. Good play by Lopez. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:51 PM
Weeks doubles off the wall in left.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 08:52 PM
Top 3rd Brewers 0 Reds 1

Eveland grounds out to short. Good play by Lopez. 1 out.

Colorful:eek:

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:53 PM
Clark grounds out to the pitcher. 2 outs. Runner stays on 2nd.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 08:54 PM
Is it my imagination or does Ramirez use the very same pitching sequence against every righthanded batter he faces?

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 08:54 PM
Colorful:eek:


It's called color commentating

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:56 PM
Jenkins walks on a 3-1 pitch. 1st and 2nd with 2 outs.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 08:58 PM
Lee went around...should have been strike 3 and inning over.

SteelSD
05-23-2006, 08:59 PM
Lee went around...should have been strike 3 and inning over.

Everything but the follow through.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 08:59 PM
Lee walks on a low outside 3-2 pitch. Bases loaded.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:00 PM
Poor umpiring, IMO, cost the Reds three runs.

It happens everytime.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:00 PM
Fielder doubles to the warning track in left center. 3 runs score. 3-1 Brewers.

SteelSD
05-23-2006, 09:01 PM
Three-Run Double because the first base umpire refuses to call an obvious strike three swing on Lee.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:01 PM
Denorfia would not have caught that.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:02 PM
Here we go again with the Denoifia crap.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:02 PM
Is it just me or have major league umpires been worse than normal this year?

SteelSD
05-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Ramirez just threw strike three. Yet, no strike three.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Hall strikes out swinging on a 3-2 pitch. 3-1 Brewers mid 3rd.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Ramirez gets too nibbly for my tastes. And he has no mechanism to stop the bleeding (i.e. a killer out pitch) nor the wiles to mix it up like Claussen does from time to time.

SteelSD
05-23-2006, 09:03 PM
Is it just me or have major league umpires been worse than normal this year?

If it's possible to be worse than perenially bad, then yes. They're worse.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:04 PM
Is it just me or have major league umpires been worse than normal this year?
The umps the Reds have had this year have been pretty horrible all year.

GoReds
05-23-2006, 09:04 PM
Is it just me or have major league umpires been worse than normal this year?

The NFL refs have to have SOMETHING to do during the offseason. ;)

pedro
05-23-2006, 09:05 PM
I really don;t think Lee went around and Ramirez shoudl have throw a breaking ball in the dirt one of those last two picthes to Lee IMO.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:06 PM
Bottom 3rd Brewers 3 Reds 1

Phillips grounds out to short. Good play by Hall. 1 out.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 09:06 PM
Hall strikes out swinging on a 3-2 pitch. 3-1 Brewers mid 3rd.

You mean 3-3 pitch

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:07 PM
I really don;t think Lee went around and Ramirez shoudl have throw a breaking ball in the dirt one of those last two picthes to Lee IMO.

I agree. I think Ramirez had his lunch handed to him. It might be wise to gird yourself for more of it.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:08 PM
Junior grounds out to 2nd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:10 PM
Aurilia walks on 4 pitches.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:10 PM
If it's possible to be worse than perenially bad, then yes. They're worse.

Off the top fo my head, I can think of at least six plays that were called against the Reds this year when it was quite obvious the call was wrong.

1. Dunn RBI single vs Mike Gonzalez. Ump ruled it a catch when it clearly was trapped. Thankfully the umps got together and overruled it.

2. Three times Lopez has been called out at second base on a steal attempt...all three times the replays have shown him to be safe.

3. Freel was called out on a caught stealing at 3rd base. Once again replay shows it wasn't even close.

4. Carlos Lee check swing that just cost the Reds three runs.

Not to mention all the low strike calls on Adam Dunn this season. I know umpiring is hard, but some of these calls weren't all that hard.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:12 PM
4. Carlos Lee check swing that just cost the Reds three runs.



I also think that Lee went around, but that didn't cost the Reds three runs. Stop saying that.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 09:12 PM
Dunn Strikes Out with runner on 1st

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:12 PM
Dunn strikes out looking. 4 K's by Eveland. 3-1 Brewers after 3.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:13 PM
Who is this Eveland dude? I thought he was an emergency starter, erstwhile reliever.

And why is he kicking the Reds' teeth in? Does he have good stuff?

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:14 PM
I also think that Lee went around, but that didn't cost the Reds three runs. Stop saying that.

No.

It would have been out number three, so essentially it cost the Reds three runs. Ramirez didn't do himself any favors with that fat pitch to Fielder, but that call hurt.

Patrick Bateman
05-23-2006, 09:14 PM
I also think that Lee went around, but that didn't cost the Reds three runs. Stop saying that.

Lets see, if it's called a strike, the Brewers don't score.

That's 3 runs anyway you cut it.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 09:15 PM
Who is this Eveland dude? I thought he was an emergency starter, erstwhile reliever.

And why is he kicking the Reds' teeth in? Does he have good stuff?

He's got an 8.00 ERA in MLB.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:15 PM
He's got an 8.00 ERA in MLB.


Well, I know that. But that doesn't tell the whole story.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:15 PM
Top 4th Brewers 3 Reds 1

Koskie leads off with a double to right center.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:16 PM
Get the pen humming.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:16 PM
The answer to the Aflac question is the Colorado Rockies. I remember that game quite well.

westofyou
05-23-2006, 09:16 PM
The answer to the Aflac question is the Colorado Rockies.
I listened to that game online whilst I was working in Atlanta.

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 09:16 PM
The answer to the Aflac question is the Colorado Rockies. I remember that game quite well.

I was going to say Houston....I don't know why.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:16 PM
Moeller grounds out to short. Nice play by Lopez. Runner stays at 2nd. 1 out.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:17 PM
No.

It would have been out number three, so essentially it cost the Reds three runs. Ramirez didn't do himself any favors with that fat pitch to Fielder, but that call hurt.


No it didn't. The umpire made a bad call, happens all the time as you say. He then threw two straight balls to Lee and pretty much teed one up for Fielder. The ump had absolutely nothing to do with that.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:17 PM
Colorado Rockies - W: Steve Parris L: Jerry Dipoto S: Ron Villone

Aronchis
05-23-2006, 09:17 PM
The Lizard didn't look good in the first 2 innings, but the Brewers hadn't him timed yet.

He is toast tonight. Though being the 5th starter, he can be skipped for extra Milton start;)

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:18 PM
Eveland strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:18 PM
No it didn't. The umpire made a bad call, happens all the time as you say. He then threw two straight balls to Lee and pretty much teed one up for Fielder. The ump had absolutely nothing to do with that.

It would have out number three!

Jeez.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:18 PM
Colorado Rockies - W: Steve Parris L: Jerry Dipoto S: Ron Villone

1999 was a good year...

but it's 2006. Which makes that hard to believe.

SteelSD
05-23-2006, 09:19 PM
Well, I know that. But that doesn't tell the whole story.

90 MPH fastball with little movement but well placed so far. Late breaking curve that tails 10-4 on the clock. The breaking ball is good when he places it well, but a couple I've seen so far are bending around the plate rather than over it. Get the call on those and you'll be ok because it's pretty much unhittable. Location location location.

Haven't seen much else from him. He'll start hanging some curves soon and he's allowed 5 baserunners in 3 IP so far.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:19 PM
It would have out number three!

Jeez.

I bet Lizard is/was thinking the same thing. You have to move on. Obviously, you haven't.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:20 PM
Edwin!

You are starting to look like a major league 3rd basemen!!!!!!!

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:20 PM
What a fake by EE!!!!

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:20 PM
90 MPH fastball with little movement but well placed so far. Late breaking curve that tails 10-4 on the clock. The breaking ball is good when he places it well, but a couple I've seen so far are bending around the plate rather than over it. Get the call on those and you'll be ok because it's pretty much unhittable. Location location location.

Haven't seen much else from him. He'll start hanging some curves soon and he's allowed 5 baserunners in 3 IP so far.

'Preciate it.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:21 PM
Weeks reaches on an infield single. But a good heads up play by Encarnacion as he catches Koskie off 3rd. 3-1 Brewers mid 4th.

SteelSD
05-23-2006, 09:22 PM
'Preciate it.

No problem, but I warn you not to trust what I tell you. According to a thread on Reds Live, I really don't understand a thing about what I'm seeing.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:22 PM
I'm afraid of going to Reds Live to see what they are saying about the Lizard.

One bad inning doesn't mean you are bad.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:23 PM
I listened to that game online whilst I was working in Atlanta.

Jeffrey Hammonds three homers, Casey two, and the great Brian Johnson with one.

IIRC, the Reds later that year scored 20 something runs in a game.

Yep, just found it. 22 runs scored in Philadelphia in September of that year. The Reds either tied or broke the NL record by hitting nine home runs in that game.

http://www.retrosheet.org/

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:23 PM
Bottom 4th Brewers 3 Reds 1

Kearns strikes out swinging. 5 K's by Eveland. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:24 PM
Encarnacion lines a single to left.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:24 PM
I'm afraid of going to Reds Live to see what they are saying about the Lizard.

One bad inning doesn't mean you are bad.

Like this?


EZ was pitching to win a job, now he's pitching not to lose one. He's lost the eye of the tiger. Crap.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:26 PM
Edit. Forget it.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:26 PM
Like this?
That'd be what I was talking about.

remdog
05-23-2006, 09:26 PM
:dunno:
I'm afraid of going to Reds Live to see what they are saying about the Lizard.

One bad inning doesn't mean you are bad.

I've been bouncing back and forth between Reds Live and ORG and I'd say they are about the same.

Some sophmorific stuff over here that should have been left on Reds Live but (:dunno: ). Don't see much difference between the two right now. Which is to say, at this point the experirment is failing, IMO. Or, it could be that Reds Live improved. :dunno:

Rem

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:26 PM
Larue fouls out to 1st. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:28 PM
Ramirez strikes out swinging. 6 K's by Eveland. 3-1 Brewers after 4.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:28 PM
Chris just had to mention that one-game playoff loss to the Mets didn't he? I had almost forgot about that.

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 09:30 PM
Ok, Redlegs...we're almost halfway through this thing....can we please give Lizard some runs?

Poor guy

GAC
05-23-2006, 09:31 PM
Really bums me out. The Lizard was out of that one inning with a K of Lee. Terrible call by 1B ump!

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:31 PM
Big inning for the Lizard. If he can get out of this unscaved a QS will be in reach.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:32 PM
George needs to stop, how can you speculate what Yost was syaing?

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:32 PM
Top 5th Brewers 3 Reds 1

Clark strikes out looking. 3 K's by Ramirez. 1 out.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:32 PM
He Gone!

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:32 PM
Jr!!!!!!!!!

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:32 PM
Great catch by Junior.

VR
05-23-2006, 09:33 PM
the kid!

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:33 PM
JUNIOR!!!!!

Keep making me look bad buddy!

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 09:33 PM
Griffey must read this or listen to the radio and see/hear people crapping on his outfield skills....the past two nights he's showing everyone up.

Great job, Junior!

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:33 PM
Great catch by Junior as he runs into the wall in center to catch Jenkins fly ball. 2 outs.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:33 PM
Denorfia would make a better Spider-Man!!

Move him to left field

MrCinatit
05-23-2006, 09:33 PM
Now THAT was one heck of a catch by Junior.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:34 PM
Lee grounds out to short. 3-1 Brewers mid 5th.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:34 PM
Lopez has a little wild of a throw there... but we still got the out. I think i still like him at 2nd.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:34 PM
GREAT INNING BY THE LIZARD.

That was key for him. Now socre the kid some runs!

GAC
05-23-2006, 09:35 PM
Can we borrow back some of the 15 runs we got last night?

C'mon offense!

GAC
05-23-2006, 09:36 PM
leadoff single by Lopez

Mario-Rijo
05-23-2006, 09:36 PM
Old Junior has something to prove doesn't he!? He was adamant last week that he wasn't changing positions, I guess now he is showing 'em!

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:36 PM
Bottom 5th Brewers 3 Reds 1

Lopez leads off with a single to right.

kyred14
05-23-2006, 09:36 PM
I get a good feeling about this inning.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:36 PM
Leadoff single for Felipe

VR
05-23-2006, 09:37 PM
with Moeller 1-15 in cs....I'm thinking it might be a good time to steal?

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:38 PM
Most experts will say we are using a small sample size with JR.

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 09:39 PM
Griffey's up...hmmm

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:39 PM
Phillips lines a single to right. 1st and 2nd with no outs.

VR
05-23-2006, 09:39 PM
Phillips showing signs of getting it.....just serves one to right instead of trying to yack it to left.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:39 PM
Single for BP

time for one of Mr.Clutch's homers.

Heath
05-23-2006, 09:39 PM
It seems that way to me too. The Reds do seem to do much better against power pitchers than guys who throw junk.

disclaimer: despite my supposed membership to the OPS is god and I don't watch games club the above statement is based entirely on opinion and is in no way meant to be used as an actual factual representation of reality (with the blood and the kicking and the biting with the metal teeth...)

You are such a dork.

There. A post. And nothing bad about Adam Dunn.

GAC
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
hr jR!!!!!!!!

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Jr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again!

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
W O W

:griffey:

:jump:

kyred14
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Told ya I had a good feeling. :D

Mario-Rijo
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Ding, Ding!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrCinatit
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
I think Junior is warming up. HR, Junior. wow.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Atta Boy!!!

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Junior a long homer to right. 4-3 Reds!!!!

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Griffey is the man!

VR
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
Bad sign for the NL central if Griff is back.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
A Clutch Too Much. :beerme: :mooner: :thumbup:

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 09:41 PM
I think he's, oh what do you say....in the zone -- the REDSZONE :D

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:42 PM
Single for BP

time for one of Mr.Clutch's homers.
Called that.

GAC
05-23-2006, 09:42 PM
Griffey is the man!

Thats DA man! ;)

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:42 PM
I think he's, oh what do you say....in the zone.

Matt, thats so 2002, The Kid is White Hott right now.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:42 PM
Junior is on fire!!!!

Mario-Rijo
05-23-2006, 09:43 PM
Marty called it a 3-Run Johnson. Hadn't heard that in a while. :beerme: Talk about so 2002!

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:44 PM
Aurilia grounds out to short. 1 out.

kyred14
05-23-2006, 09:45 PM
Someone dropped Jr. in one of my fantasy leagues, I quickly scooped him off waivers. He won't be in my team till tomorrow, he'll blow a hammy, now.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:45 PM
Marty called it a 3-Run Johnson. Hadn't heard that in a while. :beerme:

I prefer Johnson to "3-run dong." I think I might have seen a "3-run dong" in one of those films you find behind the wood-paneling in the closet.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:46 PM
Dunn strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:46 PM
Anybody hear Marty tonight during the game?

He said the is a rumor running wild that we might trade EE to the Marlins for Willis.

I swear to God that is what he said.

paintmered
05-23-2006, 09:46 PM
Anybody hear Marty tonight during the game?

He said the is a rumor running wild that we might trade EE to the Marlins for Willis.

I swear to God that is what he said.

Straight up?

Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 09:47 PM
Anybody hear Marty tonight during the game?

He said the is a rumor running wild that we might trade EE to the Marlins for Willis.

I swear to God that is what he said.

He said it's nothing more than a rumor.....

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:47 PM
Marty called it a 3-Run Johnson. Hadn't heard that in a while. :beerme: Talk about so 2002!


If my last name were Johnson, Threerun would be my second choice for names for my son. Right behind Maximus.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:47 PM
Kearns singles to center.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:47 PM
Anybody hear Marty tonight during the game?

He said the is a rumor running wild that we might trade EE to the Marlins for Willis.

I swear to God that is what he said.


Oh, please... no... just as things are starting to turn around... this happens... please.... :bang: :help:

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:48 PM
Straight up?
Yep that was the impression I got.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:48 PM
Oh, please... no... just as things are starting to turn around... this happens... please.... :bang: :help:

Relax. Rumor.

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:48 PM
Yep that was the impression I got.


Where do I sign?

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:49 PM
Encarnacion gets hit by a pitch in the hip. 1st and 2nd.

Pitching change.

pedro
05-23-2006, 09:49 PM
You are such a dork.

There. A post. And nothing bad about Adam Dunn.

why thank you.

Mario-Rijo
05-23-2006, 09:49 PM
Originally Posted by reds44
Anybody hear Marty tonight during the game?

He said the is a rumor running wild that we might trade EE to the Marlins for Willis.

I swear to God that is what he said.




Interesting, I know it's likely a no-brainer depending on all the trimming to the deal. However I quite honestly don't know if I do it. He could be all-world down there!

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:50 PM
Relax. Rumor.


Oh, I know... but... To me... it seems like it shows up as a rumor around here and it happens within the next week.

VR
05-23-2006, 09:50 PM
I haven't seen EZ pitch in the minors, so maybe someone who has can help out.

The guy has a 5:1 k/bb rate in the minors, yet is almost 1:1 in the bigs. I realize the guy doesn't have a finish pitch yet to get more k's, but what's the cause for such a big chasm in his control?

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:51 PM
Well, I will say that Encarnacion beats the pants off any single player being cyber-offered by Arizona, so it doesn't NOT make sense, I suppose. But I still very much doubt anything serious is being discussed.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:52 PM
Joe Winkelsas just up from AA in to pitch.

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:52 PM
Joe Wrinkledass on to pitch for the Brewers.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:52 PM
my mouth is on the floor after hearing Marty say that.

Nugget
05-23-2006, 09:52 PM
I would say its not a chasm in control its a difference in hitters. Hitters in the majors are better at picking pitching changes than in the minors. Also control pitchers like Lizard, hate to say this, are going to get better calls the longer they stay in the leagues.

Patrick Bateman
05-23-2006, 09:52 PM
Now I know why Chish Welsh makes the big bucks.

I just learned that the singles by Lopez and Phillips set up that 3 run HR.

Imagine that!!! You need 2 baserunners for a 3 run bomb.

Mario-Rijo
05-23-2006, 09:52 PM
Hey Rocky time for Bull-Winklesas!

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:53 PM
Why even pitch to LaRue here?

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 09:53 PM
^Because Hatteberg is hitting

bases loaded with 2 outs

VR
05-23-2006, 09:53 PM
Well, I will say that Encarnacion beats the pants off any single player being cyber-offered by Arizona, so it doesn't NOT make sense, I suppose. But I still very much doubt anything serious is being discussed.

I love EE, but DW is worth about 4 of him.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:53 PM
4 pitch walk to Larue. Bases loaded.

Hatteberg in to pinch hit.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:54 PM
I love EE, but DW is worth about 4 of him.

You sure? :rolleyes:

GAC
05-23-2006, 09:54 PM
I love EE, but DW is worth about 4 of him.

Willis is an arm injury waiting to happen IMO

pedro
05-23-2006, 09:55 PM
Joe Wrinkledass on to pitch for the Brewers.

http://www.bigdumptruck.com/lucky/gnome.jpg

OnBaseMachine
05-23-2006, 09:55 PM
Six straight balls, take this pitch.

GAC
05-23-2006, 09:55 PM
Looks like the Lizard's day is done.

RedsMan3203
05-23-2006, 09:55 PM
I'm not a baseball god, baseball expert, heck i'm just a baseball fan... And I know I don't pull the trigger on that deal.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:55 PM
Winkelsas is all over the place with his control.

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 09:55 PM
This guys from AA?!

guttle11
05-23-2006, 09:55 PM
http://www.bigdumptruck.com/lucky/gnome.jpg


That's Winklebottom.:p:

VR
05-23-2006, 09:55 PM
You sure? :rolleyes:

maybe 5....

redsrule2500
05-23-2006, 09:56 PM
Ouch, left bases loaded

GAC
05-23-2006, 09:56 PM
GO to 1B

Inning over

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:56 PM
Hatteberg grounds out to 1st. 4-3 Reds after 5.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:56 PM
I'm not a baseball god, baseball expert, heck i'm just a baseball fan... And I know I don't pull the trigger on that deal.
I would.

in a heartbeat.

twice.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:56 PM
This guys from AA?!
Yes just called up today.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 09:57 PM
Henry Winkler.

smith288
05-23-2006, 09:57 PM
I wouldnt make that deal. Willis has been the suck this year overall

pedro
05-23-2006, 09:57 PM
As much as I like EE I think the Reds would have to make that deal.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:58 PM
I wouldnt make that deal. Willis has been the suck this year overall
He had a bad month.

Last 2 starts- 17 IP, 4 ER.

Nice outing for the Lizard. 1 bad inning, but overall not bad at all.

pedro
05-23-2006, 09:58 PM
Henry Winkler.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/51/Fonzie_jumps_the_shark.PNG/200px-Fonzie_jumps_the_shark.PNG

Mario-Rijo
05-23-2006, 09:59 PM
As much as I like EE I think the Reds would have to make that deal.

I hate to agree on this but I might it's gonna depend on the trimming!

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 09:59 PM
Top 6th Brewers 3 Reds 4

Hammond in to pitch.

reds44
05-23-2006, 09:59 PM
Fielder hit a 900 foot bomb against Hammond during the 11-0 game I was at.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 10:00 PM
Fielder flies out to right. 1 out.

smith288
05-23-2006, 10:00 PM
Perhaps... I just hate giving up such great talent like him. But who knows.

Falls City Beer
05-23-2006, 10:00 PM
Henry Winkler looked old on Happy Days. He was supposed to be young and hot--and he looked like my Dad.

membengal
05-23-2006, 10:00 PM
What sounds off about that rumor to me is that Miggy Cabrera is VERY happy at 3B, and doesn't want to go back to the OF, from what I have heard. So, really, no place for EE there, absent a position switch.

I don't buy it.

reds44
05-23-2006, 10:00 PM
Perhaps... I just hate giving up such great talent like him. But who knows.
Gotta give talent to get talent.

reds44
05-23-2006, 10:01 PM
What sounds off about that rumor to me is that Miggy Cabrera is VERY happy at 3B, and doesn't want to go back to the OF, from what I have heard. So, really, no place for EE there, absent a position switch.

I don't buy it.
If Willis is being traded, Cabrerra isn't far behind.

Reds Fanatic
05-23-2006, 10:01 PM
Hall strikes out looking. 2 outs.