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Matt700wlw
05-23-2006, 10:21 PM
IP H R Er Bb So Hr Era
6.0 5 2 2 4 5 0 3.00

Sabo Fan
05-23-2006, 11:11 PM
A WHIP of 1.50? Let the below-average pitching continue. Hopefully he doesn't put up some smoke and mirrors numbers and get himself a call-up. Would not be good.

Unassisted
05-23-2006, 11:38 PM
The numbers in that line aren't so terrible as to rule out a callup later. Hopefully, Krivsky has a plan to get Mays back on track.

Betterread
05-24-2006, 12:12 AM
The numbers in that line aren't so terrible as to rule out a callup later. Hopefully, Krivsky has a plan to get Mays back on track.

Sorry to sound pessimistic but Mays has not recovered his pre-surgery stuff. He is a great guy and the Twins invested a lot of money and hope in him and he never regained his stuff from his one great year. This is a favor conferred by Krivsky.

Edd Roush
05-24-2006, 01:05 AM
4 walks in 6 innings= :barf:

TRF
05-24-2006, 10:11 AM
It's one start. He isn't going to replace anyone on the Reds roster, certainly not a starter. After he works out some kinks in Louisville, he could extend his career ala Greg Swindell in relief.

The Reds need some depth at AAA that has some experience, and has tasted success. Mays is both.

Its one start.

redsmetz
05-24-2006, 11:40 AM
It's one start. He isn't going to replace anyone on the Reds roster, certainly not a starter. After he works out some kinks in Louisville, he could extend his career ala Greg Swindell in relief.

The Reds need some depth at AAA that has some experience, and has tasted success. Mays is both.

Its one start.

You're absolutely right. I think everyone around here just assumes the FO is going to pull everybody up from AAA. I think he makes a lot of sense down there to see if he can recover his form. This one start was fair (some good, some bad) and lets see if we can build on it.

I tried looking at the Bats website to see who the pitching coach is down there now, but I couldn't find it. Who's working with the pitchers now?

dabvu2498
05-24-2006, 11:47 AM
I tried looking at the Bats website to see who the pitching coach is down there now, but I couldn't find it. Who's working with the pitchers now?

Mario Soto... the changup specialist.

flyer85
05-24-2006, 11:50 AM
Mario Soto... the changup specialist.I believe he has headed for home and been replaced by Ted Power

medford
05-24-2006, 01:29 PM
The plan w/ Mario was to have him be a temp pitching coach there to get a taste of pitching coach life and see how he likes it. He got his taste and now he is going to be a roving minor league coach to help work on guys change ups.

I'm not sure if this means that Mario didn't like the daily grind, or time away from home, if he said he loved it, but only really wanted to do it full time on the major league level, or like it, but had other commitments that he could never agree to be the full time pitching coach in Louisville for the complete season.

To be honest, I'm not sure if I've seen anything about how the Red's like the way he did during his month+ stint in AAA. There are many unanswered questions, it would be nice to see a long interview and get the full story behind Mario. It sounded like the club liked what he did, but that could have just been fluff. Perhaps they thought they were wasting him in AAA, and he'd be much better suited roving around helping Homer a bit here, Woods a bit there, Cuerto some, coming up to the bigs to work w/ EZ, etc....

Doc. Scott
05-24-2006, 03:05 PM
Mays was really shaky at first, giving up both runs on a two-run single following a couple of walks in the first inning. He then got into a jam in the second, too, and allowed the leadoff man to reach in the third, fourth, and fifth. But he finished strong.

Pawtucket has a reasonably solid lineup, too, with Dustin Pedroia (who was 3-for-3 with a walk), Hee Seop Choi, and Adam Stern all batting near the top. Enrique Wilson, Ken Huckaby, Trent Durrington, and Ron Calloway have all played in the bigs as well.

Matt700wlw
05-24-2006, 03:27 PM
I believe he has headed for home and been replaced by Ted Power

You are correct.

RAS
05-27-2006, 12:10 AM
With the way Milton and EZ are pitching, he sure can't come up as a starter. If they want to replace White with him, then give it a try.

Superdude
05-27-2006, 12:39 AM
He got his taste and now he is going to be a roving minor league coach to help work on guys change ups.

Is that his role now? If that's the case, then I actually like that situation much better. Trying to help out a bunch of 25 year old potential fringy majors leaguers is a waste if he's that good at teaching a changeup. If he could teach the changeup to some of the power arms of the system, Bailey being the best example, like he was able to teach Todd Coffey, he's a huge asset to the organization.

MartyFan
05-28-2006, 12:00 AM
Curious to know...Ruhle is out for treatment. Hume is working as the interim Pitching Coach...is it me or does he seem to be doing a pretty darn good job?

Who is working with our BP and would a change in the coach there do anything?

Aronchis
05-28-2006, 12:05 AM
Curious to know...Ruhle is out for treatment. Hume is working as the interim Pitching Coach...is it me or does he seem to be doing a pretty darn good job?

Who is working with our BP and would a change in the coach there do anything?

I expect the Reds staff begin to completely implode in the next 1-3 weeks. Guys like the Lizard are about to be shelled, while others such as Arroyo and Coffey will level off. The final key will be the lack of depth. We have not gone through a period since the start of the season where the pitching was out right shelled 4-5 straight games, ah, but it is closing in.

I doubt Hume gets much love then.

Danny Serafini
05-28-2006, 04:29 PM
Curious to know...Ruhle is out for treatment. Hume is working as the interim Pitching Coach...is it me or does he seem to be doing a pretty darn good job?

Who is working with our BP and would a change in the coach there do anything?

Lee Tunnell is the current bullpen coach. I believe he was scheduled to work in Louisville this year, but Vern's situation changed that. Here are his Major League numbers:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/tunnele01.shtml

Doc. Scott
05-30-2006, 03:38 PM
Mays doesn't pitch as well in his second start, giving up eight hits and five earned runs in six innings, but Louisville scores a bunch of runs and gets him his first Reds' organization victory, 8-5.

Joseph
05-30-2006, 05:43 PM
Mays doesn't pitch as well in his second start, giving up eight hits and five earned runs in six innings, but Louisville scores a bunch of runs and gets him his first Reds' organization victory, 8-5.

Now thats what we all expected from him. Glad to see he didn't let us down.

NatiRedGals
06-03-2006, 01:57 AM
Joe Mays scattered seven hits over 7 2/3 innings as Louisville blanked Pawtucket, 3-0, on Friday at Louisville Slugger Field.

Mays (2-1) walked one and struck out four as he lowered his ERA to 3.20 in his third start with the Bats (24-29), who have won five straight games. The right-hander threw 51 of 82 pitches for strikes and benefited from two double plays.

Brian Shackelford recorded the last out in the eighth before Mike Burns and Scott Chiasson combined to pitch the ninth, with Chiasson recording the final out to earn his fifth save.

Ray Olmedo singled home Alex Sanchez to give Louisville a 1-0 lead in the third. Later in the inning, Ryan Jorgensen scored on a wild pitch by Craig Hansen. Jesse Gutierrez delivered a two-out RBI single in the fifth to cap the scoring.

Olmedo was 2-for-2 with a double and two walks.

Hansen (0-2) took the loss in his fourth start as he allowed two runs on three hits and three walks while striking out two over four innings.

Leadoff man Adam Stern was 2-for-5 with a double to lead the Red Sox (24-29), who suffered their fifth straight loss. -- Michael Echan/MLB.com

Matt700wlw
06-03-2006, 09:24 PM
Last night, Joe Mays:

7 2/3; 0 runs; 7 hits; 4 Ks

Joseph
06-03-2006, 09:31 PM
That scares me.