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reds44
06-02-2006, 12:40 AM
Yankees placed outfielder Gary Sheffield on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive to Tuesday, with a torn ligament and dislocated tendon in his left wrist.
The dislocated tendon shouldn't take as much time as the ligament, but it's not going to help his recovery any. While the Yankees have yet to comment, it seems very possible that Sheffield will miss the bulk of the remainder of the season. Jun. 1 - 7:09 pm



You thinking what I'm thinking?

RedsMan3203
06-02-2006, 12:43 AM
Yet again - Here comes the Kearns/Griffey/Dunn/Deno/Aurilla/McCracken/Freel rumors to New York?

reds44
06-02-2006, 12:44 AM
No I was only thinking Griffey.

captainmorgan07
06-02-2006, 12:44 AM
that yankee outfield was putrid tonite cabrera in left damon in center and long in right all with average arms damon the only one who is good at the plate i'd be running on them left and right on balls hit to the outfield

KronoRed
06-02-2006, 01:00 AM
They can have Q, free of charge.

Nugget
06-02-2006, 01:25 AM
Well if REDSZONE is willing to deal away Junior's rbis it proves to me that REDSZONE is not about the REDS winning but making sure the REDS have the right stats.

SeeinRed
06-02-2006, 01:34 AM
Well if REDSZONE is willing to deal away Junior's rbis it proves to me that REDSZONE is not about the REDS winning but making sure the REDS have the right stats.

The interesting thing about what you said is that we saw what happens to the Reds lineup when there are some big cogs missing... and you're kidding yourself if you think that Griff isn't a big cog in this lineup. Hitters start pressing, and slumps happen. Sure it happens even when Griff is in the line up, but it started when he was on the DL. Yeah, Aurillia being out was another big reason, but hitters feel like they have to pick up more of the slack when Griff is out, and personally, I don't think Denorfia fills those shoes. Just something I have thought about, added with the fact of how do you think the players would react to trading Griffey. Do you really think they would view it as helping the team? That is an often overlooked factor in trades... knowing that sometimes team chemistry really is over rated, but not always.

schroomytunes
06-02-2006, 01:39 AM
now is the time for us to possibly make a trade with the Bronx bombers. I know this is going to upset a lot of people but here is my proposal.

Reds trade: Adam Dunn

Yanks trade:Phillip Hughes-19yrs old AA prospect RSP
Melky Cabrera-21yrs old ML of
Scott Proctor-29yrs old Middle reliever

Reds then place Cabrera as their lf to platoon with freel and get one of the top pitching prospects in the game in Hughes. Proctor provides some much needed bullpen depth and is in his prime to only get better.

I know the Reds give up a lot in Dunn, but it allows us to reload with young talent and still be able to keep guys like Lopez,EE,Kearns,Harang,Arroyo,and Coffey for a long time. Eventually Dunn will be overpriced, and to be honest I would rather have a guy like Jason Bay than Dunn, Bay is the better all around player. Remember not too long ago the A's dumped Hudson and Mulder, and got a boatload of young talent in return, I see this trade as such.

this trade allows us to go after a couple of high priced Fa's at the end of the season to fill some holes.

savafan
06-02-2006, 02:54 AM
If I'm Wayne Krivsky, I do nothing to help the Yankees because the Yankees have nothing that will help me.

KronoRed
06-02-2006, 03:07 AM
They yanks do have the bottomless budget, if they want to pay all of JR's deal it would be something to look at.

Nugget
06-02-2006, 03:33 AM
So what it comes down to no matter how Junior performs as long as you get rid of his salary its all good. I have to disagree there as I don't think there is a erplacement for his production and the difference he makes to the team.

Topcat
06-02-2006, 04:10 AM
The interesting thing about what you said is that we saw what happens to the Reds lineup when there are some big cogs missing... and you're kidding yourself if you think that Griff isn't a big cog in this lineup. Hitters start pressing, and slumps happen. Sure it happens even when Griff is in the line up, but it started when he was on the DL. Yeah, Aurillia being out was another big reason, but hitters feel like they have to pick up more of the slack when Griff is out, and personally, I don't think Denorfia fills those shoes. Just something I have thought about, added with the fact of how do you think the players would react to trading Griffey. Do you really think they would view it as helping the team? That is an often overlooked factor in trades... knowing that sometimes team chemistry really is over rated, but not always.


Just curious ok ? But do you honestly see the Red's contending for the playoffs with a healthy lineup for say now till the year 2008 in there current construction?

KronoRed
06-02-2006, 04:13 AM
So what it comes down to no matter how Junior performs as long as you get rid of his salary its all good. I have to disagree there as I don't think there is a erplacement for his production and the difference he makes to the team.
With JR at his best this team is a .500 ballclub, does it really matter of we lost a few more and maybe build for the future?

Besides, I'd love to see JR get a shot at a ring with the yanks or some other playoff bound team.

Gary Redus
06-02-2006, 10:37 AM
In a situation like this you demand a king's ransom ... now the question is do the Yanks have one to pay? Is this an opportunity to explore - no question and I have little doubt that WayneK will check it out.

edabbs44
06-02-2006, 11:31 AM
Jr has no long term future worth for the Reds and I would have no problem seeing him go, as long as the deal was a legit one. If Hughes was involved I couldn't care less what else was involved.

Dunn is a different story. Homegrown guy, on his way to 500 or 600 HRs. Though his average is in the tank, I love having the guy around.

There is no way Proctor would be traded this year. Torre is heavily reliant on him right now. I could see Cabrera going. Hughes is a different story. I could see the Yanks holding onto him b/c he is their biggest bullet. For a Miguel Cabrera or Willis deal.

Red Leader
06-02-2006, 11:43 AM
The Yanks have a problem in the OF. Damon is on a hobbled foot, Sheffield and Matsui could miss the remainder of the season. I doubt they are going to give up Melky Cabrera in a deal. They honestly need him this year. I could see them giving up Hughes and a couple more prospects for Griffey.

As far as asking for a kings ransom, I don't think the Reds are in that good of a situation to demand a return. Sure they can ask for it, but I'm not sure they are in a position to demand it. Other teams (most noteworthy, the Phillies) have players to offer as well in Abreu and Burrell. Both of those players, IMO, are better players than Griffey right now, whether it be because of age, healthy, skills, or salary or a combination of those 4. There are also other teams that would be willing to part with a lesser OF to "plug a 1 year need" for the Yankees, which would lessen the package the Yankees had to give up. That might be a better option for them since Matsui and Sheffield should be back at full strength next year. If you can sell the Yankees on the fact that Bernie Williams will not be their DH next year and Jason Giambi will be their 1B next year, so they could move Griffey to DH after this year, then maybe you have something better than Burrell or Abreu. I'm just not so sure they'd bite on that for the salary involved.

realreds1
06-02-2006, 05:50 PM
Do you think the Yanks will take on Griff's multimillion-dollar contract, considering his bad legs, irregardless of production? I mean, don't they have enough expensive, disabled outfielders right now? Seems like a P.R. nightmare waiting to happen.

blumj
06-02-2006, 07:51 PM
Do you think the Yanks will take on Griff's multimillion-dollar contract, considering his bad legs, irregardless of production? I mean, don't they have enough expensive, disabled outfielders right now? Seems like a P.R. nightmare waiting to happen.
I guess that depends on whether or not Steinbrenner is too senile to meddle, or just senile enough to insist.