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NewEraReds
06-04-2006, 06:04 PM
first, Freel. how could anyone want to trade this guy. now i understand he cant play full time or he doesnt play as well, but all he does is help us win. whether it be with defense, offense, base running. beg of the game or the end. he just makes us better

as for coffey, he seems to be throwing the ball better than ever right now, but getting hit a lot more. ive noticed his fastball is at 95 right now, where i think it used to be more times than not a little lower with some sink and run on it into righties. could he be over throwing it thinking he has to since he became a closer

guttle11
06-04-2006, 06:07 PM
first, Freel. how could anyone want to trade this guy. now i understand he cant play full time or he doesnt play as well, but all he does is help us win. whether it be with defense, offense, base running. beg of the game or the end. he just makes us better

Two reasons:

1) Everyone likes to play armchair GM and ponder up trades.

2) Freel's value to other teams could be pretty high. The guy is cheap, plays hard, and produces very well in his role. If a GM knows what he is doing, Freel is the type of player people would overpay for.

billy117
06-04-2006, 06:24 PM
first, Freel. how could anyone want to trade this guy. now i understand he cant play full time or he doesnt play as well, but all he does is help us win. whether it be with defense, offense, base running. beg of the game or the end. he just makes us better

as for coffey, he seems to be throwing the ball better than ever right now, but getting hit a lot more. ive noticed his fastball is at 95 right now, where i think it used to be more times than not a little lower with some sink and run on it into righties. could he be over throwing it thinking he has to since he became a closer

Personally I wouldn't want to trade Freel, but if a reliable relief pitcher was offered for him then I say we'd have to trade him. It would come down to how many games does Freel win Vs. How many games does our bullpen lose.

As for Coffey I don't know if he's over throwing or not but he is definetly getting the ball up in the stike zone something he wasn't doing earlier this year. But it's only been two bad outings (of course they were in a row) so I think he can have a day off tomorrow and he'll come back the next day ready to go, hopefully closing a game.

Spitball
06-04-2006, 08:29 PM
first, Freel. how could anyone want to trade this guy. now i understand he cant play full time or he doesnt play as well, but all he does is help us win. whether it be with defense, offense, base running. beg of the game or the end. he just makes us better

I agree. He is a valuable component on this team. This was an important series and he pretty much saved or won two of the games. I used to scoff at the idea that an athlete in his twenties could wear down if played regularly, but Freel plays with such intensity...he just wears himself out.


as for coffey, he seems to be throwing the ball better than ever right now, but getting hit a lot more. ive noticed his fastball is at 95 right now, where i think it used to be more times than not a little lower with some sink and run on it into righties. could he be over throwing it thinking he has to since he became a closer

Again, I agree. He is over-throwing and it is causing his fastball to be too straight. If he can back off, he'd add movement and avoid the middle of the plate.

RAS
06-04-2006, 10:23 PM
I think it's baloney to say Freel wears down. He goes in a slump, like half of this team did and "he's worn out". In the meantime, if Dunn goes 0-20 or Kearns does, he's just in a slump. Freel played everyday for years trying to make it to the majors, so why is it when he gets in a bit of a slump, it's because he's run down and needs all these days off? I just don't think that makes real sense. I know he does a fine job as a utility player but as a starter with 1 day off per week, I think he would be fine over the course of the year.

Jr's Boy
06-04-2006, 10:55 PM
Coffey may be trying too hard since being dubbed the closer per Narron.Don't know why at least the catcher didn't come out and try to settle him down with 2 outs and a 3-0 count on batter.

UGADaddy
06-04-2006, 11:35 PM
Coffee may be too young for the closer role I think. But Stormy's not doing much better right now. So I'm not really sure what I'd do in Narron's position. As for Freel, I like him in the role where he platoons at different positions, starting four or so games a week. I don't know if he is nessicarily getting worn down playing everyday, but I do think, for whatever reason, he's better as a spot starter.

2001MUgrad
06-05-2006, 12:19 PM
This team needs to find some BP help. Narron also needs to go with who is hot in key situatioins. It seems as though earlier in the year Coffey was money and now he is struggling. Also earlier in the year Hammond was horrible and has bad as this sounds right now he is probably the most reliable pitcher out of the Pen. Since Merker came off the DL he has been horrible. And why is Rick White still here??
Its a good thing the starters are pitching a lot of innings so far this year because the BP is flat out awful right now.

Benny-Distefano
06-05-2006, 12:23 PM
Tackleberry needs to stick to firearms...not baseball. He gets lit up every time, lately.

tbball10
06-05-2006, 10:59 PM
Who the heck is Tackleberry??