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Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:27 PM
Astros take S. Perez

lollipopcurve
06-06-2006, 03:27 PM
Dissecting this draft reveals to me that either Buckley or Krivsky, or both, like college players who have orange uniforms. I'm OK with orange uniforms.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:27 PM
look out, braves take a pitcher from georgia southern :)

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:28 PM
Indians take Wes Hodges with pick #69.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:28 PM
I can't believe LaPorta, Anderson, and King are still available.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:28 PM
I guess it's a good thing the team on the field is playing well at the moment.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
65. Philadelphia- Andrew Carpenter, RHP, Cal St. Long Beach

Hometown Grants Pass, OR. Huh. And a Dirtbag.

66. Oakland- Trevor Cahill, RHP, California HS

They have to talk him out of going to Dartmouth.

67. Houston- Sergio Perez, RHP, U. of Tampa

Top Division II pitcher in the draft.

68. Atlanta- Dustin Evans, RHP, Georgia Southern U.

Wow, a college guy

69. Cleveland- Wes Hodges, 3B, Georgia Tech

70. Washington- Stephen Englund, OF, Washington HS

rdiersin
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Lars Anderson, Matt LaPorta, Jordan Walden, and Stephen King still on the board. One of those guys would make me feel much better about the Reds draft.

Jared Hughes as well.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Masterson goes to the Red Sox

pedro
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Dissecting this draft reveals to me that either Buckley or Krivsky, or both, like college players who have orange uniforms. I'm OK with orange uniforms.


Orange is the new black and brown is the new orange.


Just sayin.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Heh..

http://www.francey.org/templates/emeril/emeril2.gif

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Red Sox take Justin Masterson.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Masterson to Red Sox. Great, great draft for them.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
71. Boston- Justin Masterson, RHP, SDSU

Hometown Beavercreek, OH.

72. Atlanta- Robert Fontaine, SS, Daytona CC (FL)

No scouting report.

73. White Sox- Matt Long, RHP, Miami (Ohio)

First college senior pick. I was wrong.

74. St. Louis- Jonathan Jay, OF, U. of Miami (FL)

Actually, a lot of relievers and reliever-profilers taken in round two. Reds weren't the only one.

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:29 PM
I guess it's a good thing the team on the field is playing well at the moment.

But at least the Reds have Milton Loo... (crickets chirp)

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:30 PM
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1008895&postcount=16

Not sure how the bolded portion of this post stacks against others, but that doesn't smell of incompetence to me.
if i rem correctly, most are guys who got to the bigs, but werent top guys. just guys who made it through quickly

rdiersin
06-06-2006, 03:30 PM
Dissecting this draft reveals to me that either Buckley or Krivsky, or both, like college players who have orange uniforms. I'm OK with orange uniforms.

So next up would be Dallas Buck or Cole Cillespie? OSU has orange in their uniforms. right?

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:31 PM
Masterson gone, I would have much preferred him than Watson

LoganBuck
06-06-2006, 03:31 PM
7 homers given up in 41 innings for Watson? His stat line is not pretty.

Player ERA W-L APP GS CG SHO/CBO SV IP H R ER BB SO 2B 3B HR AB B/Avg WP HBP BK SFA SHA
23 Sean Watson...... 4.61 4-3 29 0 0 0/1 11 41.0 42 23 21 17 47 8 0 7 160 .263 0 5 0 3 2

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:31 PM
68. Atlanta- Dustin Evans, RHP, Georgia Southern U.

He immediately is assigned the nickname "Gramps" in the Atlanta Organization.

Javy Pornstache
06-06-2006, 03:31 PM
Matt Long of Miami to the White Sox.

paintmered
06-06-2006, 03:31 PM
So we've got so far:

1.) A 5 tool outfielder that probably will struggle with a wood bat

and

2.) A college closer with a plus-4 ERA.

GUESS THE NEXT REDS DRAFT PICK:

A.) A prep two-sport star (debate and squash) with a .500 Pinch Hit batting average.

B.) A college bullpen catcher

C.) Rick White's kid brother Bill.

http://angstudio.com/blog/images/debbie_downer.jpg

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:31 PM
Cards take John Jay.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:32 PM
Cards take Jonathan Jay OF Miami

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:32 PM
The BoSox look to be making a killing. I would rather have Bard and Masterson than Stubby and Watson.

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 03:32 PM
This draft has been bad.

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:33 PM
http://angstudio.com/blog/images/debbie_downer.jpg

Yeah, can't say I'm thrilled about what's gone on today thus far. :thumbup:

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:34 PM
7 homers given up in 41 innings for Watson? His stat line is not pretty.
so a guy who doesnt has amazing stuff that you can project or pitchability(and has proven he can pitch)

:bang:

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:35 PM
Honestly, this draft is pretty bad through the first 2 picks. We better hope some of the picks to follow really, really step it up.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:35 PM
Honestly, this draft is pretty bad through the first 2 picks. We better hope some of the picks to follow really, really step it up.
the bad thing is these arent hs kids that we can at least think will develop as they mature. these are 21/22 yo college guys

Aronchis
06-06-2006, 03:36 PM
The Reds must really like Watson's knuckle curve........I mean REALLY like it.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:36 PM
The Indians are slow...

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:36 PM
75. Cleveland-

76. St. Louis-

77. Kansas City (beginning of round 3)

78. Colorado

79. Tampa Bay-

80. Pittsburgh-

81. Seattle-

82. Detroit-

83. Boston-

84. Cincinnati

M2
06-06-2006, 03:36 PM
Masterson was a guy I specifically didn't like. Glad the Reds didn't pick him.

Is Cedric Hunter still on the board? I'd love to see the team draft him. Jordan Newton, a catcher who can hit, is still on the board. And all Eddie Degerman does is dominate opposing hitters.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:38 PM
with a weird mechanics. it just freaks me out when i watch him pitch.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:38 PM
The Reds must really like Watson's knuckle curve........I mean REALLY like it.guy can't get out hitters in the SEC but ...

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:38 PM
Is Cedric Hunter still on the board? I'd love to see the team draft him. Jordan Newton, a catcher who can hit, is still on the board. And all Eddie Degerman does is dominate opposing hitters.

yep, all 3 still available.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:38 PM
Break before the supp picks. I wonder if they'll take another break after the only 2 supp picks for this round? I hope not.

Just roll into the 3rd round.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:39 PM
Kriv picked Justin Morneau in round three. Maybe LaPorta will still be there at #84... but I'm not holding my breath.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:39 PM
i think Degerman has been totally undervalued...

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:41 PM
Kriv picked Justin Morneau in round three. Maybe LaPorta will still be there at #84... but I'm not holding my breath.
kriv isnt picking

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:41 PM
mcbride, c - indians

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:42 PM
Break before the supp picks. I wonder if they'll take another break after the only 2 supp picks for this round? I hope not.

Just roll into the 3rd round.
I think they rolled right into the 2nd round so I think they will just continue into the 3rd round.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:42 PM
hamilton - 1b - st l

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:42 PM
75. Cleveland- Matt McBride, C, Lehigh

First college catcher taken.

76. St. Louis- Mark Hamilton, 1B, Tulane

77. Kansas City (beginning of round 3) Blake Wood, RHP, Georgia Tech

78. Colorado- Keith Weiser, LHP, Miami (Ohio)

Pronounced "Weezer".

79. Tampa Bay- Nick Fuller, RHP, Georgia HS

80. Pittsburgh- Shelby Ford, 2B, Oklahoma St.

81. Seattle- Anthony Butler, LHP, Wisconsin HS

82. Detroit-

83. Boston-

84. Cincinnati

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 03:42 PM
Mark Hamilton - big 1B power hitter to the Cards

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:42 PM
I don't care if he went to Tulane -- Mark Hamilton is DEAD TO ME now as a member of the Cardinals organization. :devil:

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:43 PM
Start of 3rd round

Blake Wood goes to KC.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:43 PM
wood - rhp, georgia tech - kc

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:43 PM
One of LaPorta, Deggerman, Newton, King, and Anderson will be available to the Reds.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:44 PM
K. Weiser LHP Miami to the Rockies.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 03:44 PM
it seems like the Redsox have 52,323 draft picks.

:/

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:45 PM
Kriv picked Justin Morneau in round three. Maybe LaPorta will still be there at #84... but I'm not holding my breath.I just can't see the Reds taking a falling Boras client

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:45 PM
it seems like the Redsox have 52,323 draft picks.

:/

As I said earlier -- so long as the rules surrounding compensatory picks remain the same, baseball is merely paying lip-service to competitive balance issues.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:46 PM
chad tracy too

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:46 PM
N. Fuller to TB
S. Ford 2B to PITT

Gainesville Red
06-06-2006, 03:46 PM
LaPorta:pray:

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:46 PM
A. Butler to the Mariners.

Mario-Rijo
06-06-2006, 03:46 PM
I just can't see the Reds taking a falling Boras client

Oh I can!

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:46 PM
Maybe the Reds will take Tatum here

Oh they did that 2 years ago

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:46 PM
B. Boesch CF to DET.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:47 PM
Reds on the clock.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:47 PM
i think the reasoning was good, give low mkt teams who cant afford to keep their guys picks. but more guys leave from big market teams, so its become a neg thing

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:47 PM
A. Bates 1B to the Red Sox.

Reds are next.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:47 PM
Bates to Boston.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
M2, the Sox took Aaron Bates. Nice pick.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
another college guy. and one ive never heard of

M2
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
Bates to Boston.

Wow, that's exactly where I took him in our mock draft.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
C. Valaika SS Cal-Santa Barb.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
MLB says Valaika profiles best as a 2b OR UTILITY GUY!?!?!

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
82. Detroit- Brennan Boesch, CF, U. Cal-Berkeley

Stands 6'5".

83. Boston- Aaron Bates, 1B, NC State University

84. Cincinnati- Chris Valaika, SS, UC Santa Barbara

Apparently a good hitter, but probably a 2B or utility guy. Wonderful.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
Oh MY GOD!

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
This draft blows.

Javy Pornstache
06-06-2006, 03:48 PM
Wow, another shortstop.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
we must have rock solid pitching depth in our minors ;)

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
Please fire Buckley. Now.

Mario-Rijo
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
Jesus help me. "He may turn out to be a 2B w/ pop or a utility guy"? This is crap!

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
MLB says Valaika profiles best as a 2b OR UTILITY GUY!?!?!

The intern from group sales strikes again. :laugh:

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
Emeril!!!!

I said kick it UP a notch!

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
We do need another utility infielder

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
MLB says Valaika profiles best as a 2b OR UTILITY GUY!?!?!
will fit right in with our other 2 picks. this draft is CRAP

Gainesville Red
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
weird. :dunno:

GoReds
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
There's your Rich Aurilia replacement :rolleyes:

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
http://www.dailynexus.com/story_images/2004-04-13/dhull13apr04-baseball.jpg

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
Everyone will love this from MLB.COM

He has come back well from a torn ACL last year and is a solid IF with some pop in his bat. He may profile best as a 2B or utility player. So we drafted a utility player.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:50 PM
FIRE Buckley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:50 PM
Chris Valaika had a 12 bb/47 k rate in 227 atbats this year. Awesome.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 03:50 PM
http://www.dailynexus.com/story_images/2004-05-28/dl28ma04-base.jpg

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:50 PM
Ryan Freel just got replaced.

This is like watching a train wreck happen in slow motion. I wish I had that "popcorn" smiley from the peanut gallery to insert now.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:51 PM
and there goes buck

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 03:51 PM
Scouts have had a long time to evaluate Valaika against quality competition. He was on three USA Baseball teams, winning a gold medal in 2001 with the youth national team and a silver medal in 2003 with the Pan American Games junior national team. He earned a gold medal at the World University Games with the college national team in 2004 as an infield reserve behind future first-round picks Jed Lowrie, Troy Tulowitzki and Ryan Zimmerman. However, Valaika hit a speed bump last year when he tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. He has worked hard to come back and doesn't wear a brace on his knee. He's a hard worker with solid-average tools. Most of his success owes to his good hands. He shows quick hands at the plate that generate average power, particularly inviting for a player who should stay in the infield defensively. Valaika's hands work well in the infield, though his range at shortstop is below-average and he's a fringe-average runner. With better patience at the plate, Valaika's power should increase. His makeup is a significant plus. He can play second base and has enough arm for third, making him an ideal utility infielder.

HotCorner
06-06-2006, 03:51 PM
Amazing how one sites comments have become the gospel. It's one person's take. Relax.

Slider
06-06-2006, 03:51 PM
What next...A DH in round 4???

westofyou
06-06-2006, 03:51 PM
we must have rock solid pitching depth in our minors ;)
Crappy draft for pitching right?

Why pick more crappy pitchers? The Reds own the patent.

That said I'm surprised the UCSB has a baseball team.

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 03:51 PM
I think he would have been available to Cincy in round 4. Oh well.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:51 PM
It's anti-moneyball. Focus in on college players with poor stats.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:52 PM
Chris Valaika had a 12 bb/47 k rate in 227 atbats this year. Awesome.
apparently buckley likes college kids with not much room to develop and arent that great to start with

traderumor
06-06-2006, 03:52 PM
Y'all are killing me. These threads are always classic. Who seriously knows anything more about this SS than what they just read on mlb.com? And calling for someone to be fired on 3 picks in a draft of 50 guys? Again, you're splitting my side.

Javy Pornstache
06-06-2006, 03:52 PM
And Dallas Buck just went to Arizona. I know he had some control problems this year, but was at one time one of the top 10 pitchers in this draft. Even with concerns, if he's there and I am picking between him and a guy who profiles as utility player, I'm going with Buck.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:52 PM
The Orioles took Zach Britton, a guy I really liked, with the pick after the Reds.

The D-Backs took Dallas Buck with the pick after that, another good pick.

Texas took Chad Tracy, C from Pepperdine, who also could have been a good pick for the Reds.

This draft is totally awful.

Gallen5862
06-06-2006, 03:53 PM
It is thundering here. I don't know how much longer can stay online. Who was third round pick Any info I just know was a ss.

GoReds
06-06-2006, 03:53 PM
This draft certainly shouldn't break the bank.

Javy Pornstache
06-06-2006, 03:53 PM
The "other" Chad Tracy would have been a great pick for the Reds.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 03:53 PM
Nats took Stephen King

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:53 PM
85. Baltimore- Zach Britton, LHP, Texas HS

86. Arizona- Dallas Buck, RHP, Oregon State U.

He dropped a round. Was projected in the second.

MLB's announcer guy says "Ore-GON". Dope.

87. Arizona- Kevin Hankerd, LF, USC

88. Texas- Chad Tracy, C, Pepperdine

Son of Jim.

89. San Francisco- Clayton Tanner, LHP, California HS

90. Florida- Torre Langley, C, Georgia HS

Did they hire a Braves guy? Langley is 5-foot-9.

91. Washington- Stephen King, SS, Florida HS.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:53 PM
there goes king to the nats

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 03:53 PM
There goes Stephen King another good pick to WASH.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 03:54 PM
And Dallas Buck just went to Arizona. I know he had some control problems this year, but was at one time one of the top 10 pitchers in this draft. Even with concerns, if he's there and I am picking between him and a guy who profiles as utility player, I'm going with Buck.

Buck lost all of his velocity this year, and was throwing in the high 80s all season. Who knows if he ever gets that back.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:54 PM
Stephen King just went to the Nats. Glad the Reds drafted a college SS with horrible plate discipline over a guy with first round talent(King).

lollipopcurve
06-06-2006, 03:54 PM
3 college, no HS so far. I think Buckley's drafts have generally been heavy college at the top, so he isn't breaking form.

Gainesville Red
06-06-2006, 03:54 PM
If we were gonna take a SS/2B/Utility guy, Adam Davis from Florida is better, and hasn't had a torn ACL. (Once again, showing my bias;) )

M2
06-06-2006, 03:54 PM
It's anti-moneyball. Focus in on college players with poor stats.

Line of the day so far.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:55 PM
92. Milwaukee- Cole Gillespie, OF, Oregon State U.

From the Portland suburb of West Linn.

Another "Ore-GON". Geez.

93. SD- Cedric Hunter, CF, Georgia HS

tbball10
06-06-2006, 03:55 PM
the reds just dfa'd felipe and valaika is starting tonight in st. louis

Mario-Rijo
06-06-2006, 03:55 PM
:all_cohol , Wow what a freakin' day!

cincy09
06-06-2006, 03:55 PM
Crappy draft for pitching right?

Why pick more crappy pitchers? The Reds own the patent.



I couldn't agree more

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 03:56 PM
well, there really is no room to go but up, unless we take a lhp with no left arm ;) seriously, this draft has been horrible and if buckley is around next year, i will no longer be such a krivsky backer

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:56 PM
Cedric Hunter goes to the Pads.

I liked the Pads draft last year, and I really like it so far this year.

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:56 PM
Y'all are killing me. These threads are always classic. Who seriously knows anything more about this SS than what they just read on mlb.com? And calling for someone to be fired on 3 picks in a draft of 50 guys? Again, you're splitting my side.

Eh -- it's all reactionary first impression stuff.

Top guys flame out constantly, nobodies become all-stars. Guys outperform their scouting reports sometimes, guys underperform their scouting reports sometimes. That's the way things work in baseball. We all know that, but it doesn't stop us from still living in the moment.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:56 PM
:all_cohol , Wow what a freakin' day!Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up sniffing glue.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 03:56 PM
94. NYM- Joe Smith, RHP, Wright State U.

Sidearm reliever.

westofyou
06-06-2006, 03:56 PM
:all_cohol , Wow what a freakin' day!
The great thing about baseball is there's a crisis every day.

Gabe Paul

tbball10
06-06-2006, 03:56 PM
you guys havent seen them play yet, why are you already bashing them?

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:57 PM
My last hope is that we can grab Brandon Belt in the 4th round.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 03:57 PM
Line of the day so far.Thanks. I also made a comment about drafting Craig Tatum and then they pick a guy who profiles even worse. :laugh:

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 03:58 PM
Why is Lars Anderson still available? I like him, Jordan Newton, Degerman, or Jordan Walden with the Reds 4th pick.

westofyou
06-06-2006, 03:58 PM
Top guys flame out constantly,
Only one Reds 1st round position players ever had a real good career, plenty of tweeners and some players but so far only 1 stud.

That's 41 years of drafting and counting.

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 03:58 PM
you guys havent seen them play yet, why are you already bashing them?

Because they strike out too much, can't hit with RISP and don't play defense or hustle on the basepathes.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 03:58 PM
you guys havent seen them play yet, why are you already bashing them?

Because there is talent available, real good talent, and yet, they keep passing it over for a closer with a 4+ ERA and a 1.40+ WHIP and a guy that projects as a UTIL player. How exactly are those types of players going to turn this franchise around?

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 03:58 PM
UofA pride time - Jason Donald to the Phils

westofyou
06-06-2006, 03:59 PM
Because there is talent available, real good talent, and yet, they keep passing it over for a closer with a 4+ ERA and a 1.40+ WHIP and a guy that projects as a UTIL player. How exactly are those types of players going to turn this franchise around?
Practice and Coaching?

From what I hear it can turn Dunn into Pujols and wine into water.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:00 PM
the A's take chili's guy, Matt Sulentic

M2
06-06-2006, 04:00 PM
Only one Reds 1st round position players ever had a real good career, plenty of tweeners and some players but so far only 1 stud.

That's 41 years of drafting and counting.

Pokey!

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:00 PM
I'm still partial to Chad Lee

BRM
06-06-2006, 04:01 PM
Practice and Coaching?

From what I hear it can turn Dunn into Pujols and wine into water.

I thought Dunn's problem was lack of hustle and no work ethic. No amount of coaching can fix that. :p:

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:01 PM
ATL takes a LHP from Stow Walsh Jesuit HS in OH, Chad Rogers.

Mario-Rijo
06-06-2006, 04:01 PM
I got it, Buckley is a genuis! He figured if the 2nd & 3rd rounders looked bad enough it would make us appreciate the 1st rounder more. It sure does make Stubbs look like a great pick doesn't it! In fact I am starting to long for DOB to come back and make the picks!

tbball10
06-06-2006, 04:02 PM
valaika went 1-3 with 2k's against morrow when he faced him fwiw

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:02 PM
Tribe takes Adam Davis 2B/SS out of U of FLA.

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 04:03 PM
valaika went 1-3 with 2k's against morrow when he faced him fwiw

Was his 1 hit w/ a runner in scoring position, though?

Gainesville Red
06-06-2006, 04:04 PM
Guess it's funny I just mentioned a couple minutes earlier that we should have taken Davis if we were looking for a 2B/SS. Guy's good.

Not really Ha Ha funny.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:04 PM
A couple picks left this round. I'm going out to get a bite to eat. Should be back by the time the 4th round starts.

Mario-Rijo
06-06-2006, 04:04 PM
Gonna watch a movie, I can't hack this crud! Just 1 last thing about these guys I have noticed all 4 yr players in college, do ya think the FO feels we need some trade bait and soon. although I can't imagine these guys being the answer. The 3rd rounder has really got me irked.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:07 PM
Are they taking another break? Jeez.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 04:07 PM
95. Florida- Scott Cousins, LF, U. of San Francisco

96. Minnesota- Tyler Robertson, California HS

97. Philadephia- Jason Donald, SS, U. of Arizona

98. Oakland- Matt Sulentic, OF, Texas HS

Wow, what did he do to fall that far? Or is Chili overdrafting?

99. Houston- Nick Moresi, CF, Fresno State U.

100. Atlanta- Chad Rogers, Ohio HS (Walsh Jesuit)

Another Northerner, and an Ohioan. Very interesting.

101. Cleveland- Adam Davis, SS, U. of Florida

102. Angels- Russ Moldenhauer, OF, Texas HS

103. Boston- Bryson Cox, RHP, Rice

104. Yankees- Zach McAllister, RHP, Illinois HS

105. Cubs- Justin Edwards, LHP, Washington HS

106. St. Louis- Gary Daley, RHP, Cal Poly- San Luis Obispo

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 04:07 PM
THOSE GUYS WERENT BPA EITHER

Well, only time will tell if Stubbs is the best player :)
Let's hope Wayne was right on this one.

tbball10
06-06-2006, 04:11 PM
Was his 1 hit w/ a runner in scoring position, though?

its was the only hit against morrow that game, so probably not.

traderumor
06-06-2006, 04:12 PM
Gonna watch a movie, I can't hack this crud! Just 1 last thing about these guys I have noticed all 4 yr players in college, do ya think the FO feels we need some trade bait and soon. although I can't imagine these guys being the answer. The 3rd rounder has really got me irked.What is his arm like? Does he have good range? Does he use all fields? Is he a good baserunner? How is his plate discipline?

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 04:12 PM
I want Walden. Throws 99 mph.

puca
06-06-2006, 04:12 PM
Gonna watch a movie, I can't hack this crud! Just 1 last thing about these guys I have noticed all 4 yr players in college, do ya think the FO feels we need some trade bait and soon. although I can't imagine these guys being the answer. The 3rd rounder has really got me irked.


I'm afraid that it signals that signability is still a concern, 4 yr college players have the least amount of leverage.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 04:12 PM
MLB Radio people try to interview Evan Longoria on a bad cell connection. Must be Cingular. Anyway, Longoria doesn't hear the questions, so he gives the "I'm excited to be in Tampa Bay and I'm looking forward to playing" speech that is Athlete Interview 101. Funny stuff.

Round 4

107. KC- Derrick Robertson, OF, Florida HS

What the hell is the "Pk Yonge Laboratory School"? Did they grow this guy in a test tube? Apparently he's fast- Esix Snead/Kenny Lewis fast.

108. Colorado- Craig Baker, RHP, Cal St. Northridge

109. TB- Alexander Cobb, RHP, Florida HS

110. Pittsburgh- William (Jared Hughes) Hughes, RHP, Cal St. Long Beach

111. Seattle- Enrique Orta, RHP, U. of Miami (FL)

112. Detroit- Ryan Strieby, 1B, U. of Kentucky

Apparently played with wood bats at a Washington JC.

113. Dodgers- Kyle Orr, 1B, British Columbia HS

Lasorda... goofus. 6'5" Canadian power hitter- Votto?

114. Cincinnati- Justin Reed, CF, Mississippi HS

Speedy, football scholarship to Ole Miss. Compared to the guy who's Kenny Lewis fast. Grrreat.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:12 PM
These delays are awful

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:16 PM
I'm not excited w/this draft, but its not all doom and gloom IMO like the Naysayers would have you believe.

Stubbs is a solid pick, not what I preferred, but its not a horrible pick.
Sean Watson could be solid, I like he has 4 pitches, 2 of which are good. He could move fast.
The 3rd round pick tho is puzzling. I'm not sure I like Valaika there. Seems like quite a reach.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:16 PM
Round 4 Starts:

KC takes D. Robinson OF

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:18 PM
The Reds need a catching prospect that can actually hit...Jordan Newton would be an ideal pick here.

Kc61
06-06-2006, 04:18 PM
Looks like Reds are going for college players who can fill gaps in the system fairly quickly. This may be due to philosophy or because it is a weak draft and Reds didn't think a lot of high school "projectable" arms was the way to go.

Perhaps Reds will now go for some starting pitchers to add depth to that position. Doesn't seem like a great Reds draft, but you could see all three picks being in the high minor leagues quickly.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:18 PM
Stubbs is a solid pick, not what I preferred, but its not a horrible pick.maybe so considering the quality of the draft but BA pointed out he would have been a late first round at best if he had been available last year.

cincy09
06-06-2006, 04:19 PM
at least with college players we will find out sooner if they will help at the major league level. It would be nice however to get some live arms

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:19 PM
3 more picks until the Reds pick

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:19 PM
Pirates take Jared Hughes.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 04:19 PM
Well, only time will tell if Stubbs is the best player :)
Let's hope Wayne was right on this one.
wayne didnt make the pick

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 04:20 PM
Jared Hughes goes to the Pirates - another guy who was a 1st rounder in the pre-season

IslandRed
06-06-2006, 04:20 PM
I'm afraid that it signals that signability is still a concern, 4 yr college players have the least amount of leverage.

They go to four-year colleges, but the three guys taken so far are juniors. They can return to college if they don't like the Reds' offer.

Gainesville Red
06-06-2006, 04:20 PM
Round 4 Starts:

KC takes D. Robinson OF

I think I read a couple weeks ago that Robinson was still planning on coming to UF to play Football, but who knows. If KC drafted me, I'd be playing football in Gainesville. I'll tell you this......HE'S FAST, REAL FAST.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:20 PM
Mariners take Enrique Orta

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:20 PM
wayne didnt make the pickbut Wayne hired the guy who made the pick

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:21 PM
Tigers take Ryan Strieby 1B UK

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:21 PM
Damnit! Tigers take Ryan Strieby. I wanted him in the 5th round.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:21 PM
Dodgers take Kyle Orr

Reds are on the clock.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:21 PM
We could use a backup catcher here

M2
06-06-2006, 04:22 PM
The Dodgers are apparently playing this entire draft for comedy.

Javy Pornstache
06-06-2006, 04:22 PM
Ah, Tigers got Ryan Strieby of UK, he was one I had my eye on as a value pick for the fourth or fifth. Guess he was valued there too. Reds coming up.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:22 PM
maybe so considering the quality of the draft but BA pointed out he would have been a late first round at best if he had been available last year.

Last years crop was fairly strong. But I understand what you mean.

Let me just say that I dont think it was a disasterous waste of a pick. There were plenty of good arms at that pick though.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 04:22 PM
and its a center fielder

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:22 PM
Reds take Justin Reed CF Hilcrest Christian HS

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:22 PM
Reds take Justin Reed, high school CF.

Buckeye33
06-06-2006, 04:22 PM
Justin Reed.

HS OFer.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 04:22 PM
After a football game last fall when Reed ran for four touchdowns and more than 400 yards, he traveled to Atlanta the next morning and was on a baseball field with Team USA for the final junior national team trials. Reed didn't make the team, but he made a good impression. He has been offered a football scholarship to Mississippi but is expected to sign with a team that drafts him in the first five rounds. His exceptional work ethic makes up for his below-average instincts. He profiles as a table-setting center fielder, and has drawn comparisons to Tim Raines and Matt Lawton. He's a 60 runner on the 20-80 scouting scale, but his defensive game is unrefined. His arm is average to a tick below. Reed improved at the plate as a senior, shortening his swing and making sharper contact. He will hit the ball to all fields with gap to gap power. Reed doesn't profile as a corner outfielder, so his ability to become a reliable center fielder will be paramount.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 04:23 PM
but Wayne hired the guy who made the pick
i know, but i was correcting the guy who said he picked him

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:23 PM
Wow, we just picked Kenny Lewis in the round

Javy Pornstache
06-06-2006, 04:23 PM
Just because Denorfia, Dickerson, Moran, Szymanski, Bruce and Stubbs aren't enough, let's go ahead and get another centerfielder. Yes, I know Bruce probably won't be a CFer in the majors. But still.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:24 PM
MLB.COM on Reed:

Very athletic. Has a football scholarship to Mississippi. Speed is his best tool but has also shown vast improvement on offense and in CF.

cincy09
06-06-2006, 04:24 PM
guess we need lots of outfielers

GoReds
06-06-2006, 04:24 PM
"...football scholarship to Mississippi."

With the 114th pick, the Cincinnati Reds punt.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 04:24 PM
After a football game last fall when Reed ran for four touchdowns and more than 400 yards, he traveled to Atlanta the next morning and was on a baseball field with Team USA for the final junior national team trials. Reed didn't make the team, but he made a good impression. He has been offered a football scholarship to Mississippi but is expected to sign with a team that drafts him in the first five rounds. His exceptional work ethic makes up for his below-average instincts. He profiles as a table-setting center fielder, and has drawn comparisons to Tim Raines and Matt Lawton. He's a 60 runner on the 20-80 scouting scale, but his defensive game is unrefined. His arm is average to a tick below. Reed improved at the plate as a senior, shortening his swing and making sharper contact. He will hit the ball to all fields with gap to gap power. Reed doesn't profile as a corner outfielder, so his ability to become a reliable center fielder will be paramount.
so a guy who isnt that fast, below arm strength, not good at def yet, and can only play cf. LOL. thats just too funny to read

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
This is one of the worst drafts of recent memory. They passed on Jordan Newton, Lars Anderson, and Jordan Walden for a guy whose best tool is his speed.

Buckeye33
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
"...football scholarship to Mississippi."

With the 114th pick, the Cincinnati Reds punt.

An above post states that he will sign with a team if he's picked in the 1st 5 rounds.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Other than the announcers swearing up and down that Reed really likes baseball, he does sound just like Lewis.

ochre
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
Think they'll take Devon Torrence later too?

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
This is one of the worst drafts of recent memory. They passed on Jordan Newton, Lars Anderson, and Jordan Walden for a guy whose best tool is his speed.
lets hope he plays football

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
So far we've drafted BJ, Wagner, Janish, and Lewis.

cincy09
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
what exactly is the agenda here.........could there be more to this?

Gainesville Red
06-06-2006, 04:25 PM
HS CFer w/ a football scholarship, with LaPorta still on the board. (Showing my bias for gators again.)

MikeS21
06-06-2006, 04:26 PM
guess we need lots of outfielers
Gotta chase all those fly balls.

cincy09
06-06-2006, 04:26 PM
Think they'll take Devon Torrence later too?

I was thinking the same thing

Redsfaithful
06-06-2006, 04:26 PM
"...football scholarship to Mississippi."

With the 114th pick, the Cincinnati Reds punt.

The same scouting report says he'll probably sign if taken in the first five rounds.

NewEraReds
06-06-2006, 04:26 PM
So far we've drafted BJ, Wagner, Janish, and Lewis.
stubbs may be better than bj but the other 3 arent better than those 3, imo

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 04:27 PM
I might have to leave work early. Could you imagine if the draft looked like Bard/Scherzer, Brett Anderson, Walden and LaPorta?

I also forgot we are thin on OFs in the system. 2 OFs and one pitcher. Go figure.

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 04:27 PM
what exactly is the agenda here.........could there be more to this?

It's a heel turn by Wayne Krivsky after 4 months of playing to the fans.

He'll rip off his Reds shirt and reveal an "nWo" logo and then proceed to tell all the young Reds fans to screw off. Then he'll cut a promo about how much he hates Cincinnati and the morons that live there.

redsfaninAK
06-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Did Krivisky do something to Buckley to upset him, cause this is starting to look like a draft out of spite.

traderumor
06-06-2006, 04:28 PM
You all do realize that, after Bruce, we have no realistic starting OF prospects in the system. And Dunn and Kearns are as likely to be wearing another uniform in 3-4 years than they are to be Reds.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Other than the announcers swearing up and down that Reed really likes baseball, he does sound just like Lewis.he is a guy with speed, who doesn't project as a corner OF and they are unsure if he will turn into an adequate CF even if he learns to get on base.

M2
06-06-2006, 04:28 PM
I don't mind the Reed pick. The kid's athletic and hopefully good instruction will turn him into a baseball player. The Reds built a franchise largely around that philosophy not that long ago in cosmic time.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:29 PM
It's a heel turn by Wayne Krivsky after 4 months of playing to the fans.

He'll rip off his Reds shirt and reveal an "nWo" logo and then proceed to tell all the young Reds fans to screw off. Then he'll cut a promo about how much he hates Cincinnati and the morons that live there.

lol!

:laugh: :laugh:

darn, first pic didn't work..

Krivsky MANIA!!!
http://www.desktopexchange.com/gallery/albums/Sports-Wallpapers/WWE_Hulk_Hogan.jpg

westofyou
06-06-2006, 04:29 PM
I don't mind the Reed pick. The kid's athletic and hopefully good instruction will turn him into a baseball player. The Reds built a franchise largely around that philosophy not that long ago in cosmic time.
It's a Rickey pick

Aronchis
06-06-2006, 04:29 PM
Looks like the Reds are having some "blind" scouting, though that is subjective, as I said, considering the newness, don't expect a ton from this draft.

We have not drafted a Homer Bailey(complete package, smooth release type that needs seasoning) or Wood(great changeup, short, but very athletic) either.

This draft probably won't provide much pitching, which makes me wonder if Cast won't be opening up the checkbook this offseason. Deno and Votto are most likely on the block as well.

WVRed
06-06-2006, 04:29 PM
Y'all are killing me. These threads are always classic. Who seriously knows anything more about this SS than what they just read on mlb.com? And calling for someone to be fired on 3 picks in a draft of 50 guys? Again, you're splitting my side.

This is my favorite time of year, we get an influx of talent, and everybody is calling for the GM or scouting directors head because they don't pick who they wanted.

I remember how many people two years ago were calling for Dan O'Brien's head because he took the best high school arm over a SS that ended up flaming out in Colorado. That high school arm is now our top prospect and the same people criticizing the pick are now arguing over whether or not we should rush him to the majors.

Gainesville Red
06-06-2006, 04:29 PM
By the way, why is LaPorta still on the board?

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:30 PM
I don't mind the Reed pick. The kid's athletic and hopefully good instruction will turn him into a baseball player. The Reds built a franchise largely around that philosophy not that long ago in cosmic time.the problem is the guy profiles to play one position and he is a pure projection for that position at this point. He is Kenny Lewis, a guy with multiple question marks and drafted by a team that has probably the easiest CF to play in all of baseball.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:31 PM
Why is Lars Anderson still available? IIRC, he is supposed to have a ton of power and a great eye at the plate,.

IslandRed
06-06-2006, 04:32 PM
I don't mind the Reed pick. The kid's athletic and hopefully good instruction will turn him into a baseball player. The Reds built a franchise largely around that philosophy not that long ago in cosmic time.

Good point.

I also try to remember that we're long past the point of having anyone on the draft board that can't be picked apart.

Javy Pornstache
06-06-2006, 04:32 PM
It's a heel turn by Wayne Krivsky after 4 months of playing to the fans.

He'll rip off his Reds shirt and reveal an "nWo" logo and then proceed to tell all the young Reds fans to screw off. Then he'll cut a promo about how much he hates Cincinnati and the morons that live there.

Will George Grande tell us he tried to warn us all along as Bobby Heenan did back in the day?

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 04:33 PM
115. Baltimore- Blake Davis, SS, Cal St. Fullerton

116. SF- Ben Snyder, LHP, Ball State

117. Arizona- Kevin Thompson, RHP, Pensacola (FL) JC

118. Texas- Marcus Lemon, SS, Florida HS

Son of Chet.

119. Minnesota- Whitney Robbins, 1B, Georgia Tech

120. Toronto- Brandon McGee, RHP, Bradley U.

121. Washington- Glenn Gibson, LHP, New York HS

Son of ex-MLB stalwart hurler Paul Gibson.

122. Milwaukee- Evan Amundsen, RHP, Colorado HS

Actually Columbine High School.

123. SD- Nate Culp, LHP, U. Missouri-Columbia

124. NY Mets- John Holdzkom, Salt Lake CC

Brother of Lincoln, I assume.

125. Florida- Hector Correa, RHP, Puerto Rico HS

126. Minnesota- Garrett Olson, 3B, Franklin Pierce College (NH)

Franklin Pierce has a college named after him?

127. Philadelphia- D'Arby Myers, CF, California HS

128. Oakland- Chad Lee, RHP, Barton County CC (Oklahoma)

129.

130.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:33 PM
A's pick Chad Lee.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:34 PM
15 picks away from the Reds.

Newton, Anderson, Walden, and LaPorta all still available.

Caveat Emperor
06-06-2006, 04:35 PM
I like this pick, incidentally. Get a good athlete, send him to rookie ball and "coach him up" a bit.

Someday, 5 or 6 years from now -- 'Zoners will complain about Bruce and Stubbs blocking this guy from having a job in the OF as he sits in Louisville and bats .350 with 30 SBs or something.

Life is cyclical like that.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 04:35 PM
I am wondering where some of these guys are going to go who were projected 2nd/3rd rounders....and why they are falling so far.

M2
06-06-2006, 04:36 PM
the problem is the guy profiles to play one position and he is a pure projection for that position at this point. He is Kenny Lewis, a guy with multiple question marks and drafted by a team that has probably the easiest CF to play in all of baseball.

I'll take that on a 4th round pick. It's always a maybe something. Hopefully he'll prove unlike Lewis and actually improve over time instead of get consistently worse. It also sounds like Reed has a little sock in his bat (something Lewis never was accused of), gap power instead of none.

WVRed
06-06-2006, 04:37 PM
Why is Lars Anderson still available? IIRC, he is supposed to have a ton of power and a great eye at the plate,.

Maybe teams see something in him that would cause them to reconsider?

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:37 PM
I guess I could better understand the infatuation with CF types if GABP wasn't one of the smallest and easiest CFs to play in the majors.

Kc61
06-06-2006, 04:37 PM
I guess I could better understand the infatuation with CF types if GABP wasn't one of the smallest and easiest CFs to play in the majors.

Road games?

westofyou
06-06-2006, 04:38 PM
I am wondering where some of these guys are going to go who were projected 2nd/3rd rounders....and why they are falling so far.
Milo?

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:38 PM
Please don't tell me they are taking another break.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 04:40 PM
Colin Curtis goes to the Yanks - seen him play a few times. Good pick that late

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:40 PM
Road games?They can create a new kind of platoon, a road/home one.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:40 PM
Please don't tell me they are taking another break.

I think the Yankees are now looking to draft an OF they can plug into the lineup tomorrow. It's just taking them a little while to find that guy.

WVRed
06-06-2006, 04:41 PM
Has Danny Almonte been taken yet?

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:41 PM
I guess I could better understand the infatuation with CF types if GABP wasn't one of the smallest and easiest CFs to play in the majors.

Tell that to Ol' Man Griff... ;)

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:41 PM
Has Danny Almonte been taken yet?

No.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 04:41 PM
129. Houston- Chris Johnson, 3B, Stetson

130. Atlanta- Gary Hyde, LHP, Georgia Tech

That other guy needs someone to go to the bar with.

131. Cleveland- Judson Morris, LHP, North Carolina HS

132. Angels- Clayton Fuller, OF, Texas HS

133. Boston- Jonathan Still, C, North Carolina St. U.

134. Yankees- Colin Curtis, OF, Arizona St.

135. White Sox- Tyler Reves, C, Texas Tech

136. St. Louis- Ed Degerman, RHP, Rice

End of round 4.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:41 PM
Cards take Degerman.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:41 PM
There goes Degerman, not a bad pick by the Cards.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:41 PM
The Cards just took Degerman, so we might get to see plenty of him going forward.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 04:41 PM
10 minute break before round five starts

2 hours 40 minutes to get 4 rounds in.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:42 PM
That is the end of round 4. Probably another break before they start round 5.

rdiersin
06-06-2006, 04:42 PM
Has Danny Almonte been taken yet?

The Reds haven't made their 5th round pick yet :)

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:43 PM
10 minute break before round five starts


Wow. That's ridiculous.

Is it really necessary to have a break after every round? I don't ever remember them doing this.

corkedbat
06-06-2006, 04:43 PM
This might be a decent draft - if these were picks 9-13. I'm particularily impressed that we spent two top5 picks on our future CF and his possible future backup (not to mention a honest-to-gosh utility infield prospect) while completely ignoring starting pitchers and corner bats. And I had such high hopes...<sigh> :bang:

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 04:44 PM
137. KC

138. Colorado

139. TB

140. Pittsburgh

141. Seattle

142. Detroit

143. Dodgers

144. Cincinnati

Kc61
06-06-2006, 04:45 PM
They can create a new kind of platoon, a road/home one.

They will certainly have enough centerfielders to platoon.


Maybe the theory is that it takes 10 centerfielders to replace Ken Griffey, Jr.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 04:46 PM
Tell that to Ol' Man Griff... ;)that's the exact reason they can get away with playing him in CF. The penalty is much less in those 81 home games. If their home park was Comerica, or a number of others, Jr would not be the everyday CF but in GABP the penalty for his lack of speed is negated to an extent by having much less ground to cover.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 04:47 PM
It seems fairly likely that Buckley and the Reds will try to convert Watson to starting, a la David Bush (also a 2nd round pick). But here's the obvioulsy-begged question: why go to the trouble? Why not take a guy who's ALREADY a starter?

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:48 PM
It seems fairly likely that Buckley and the Reds will try to convert Watson to starting, a la David Bush (also a 2nd round pick). But here's the obvioulsy-begged question: why go to the trouble? Why not take a guy who's ALREADY a starter?

They must really be enthralled by that knuckle curve.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:49 PM
It seems fairly likely that Buckley and the Reds will try to convert Watson to starting, a la David Bush (also a 2nd round pick). But here's the obvioulsy-begged question: why go to the trouble? Why not take a guy who's ALREADY a starter?

Buckley is either stupid, or unconventional. I love what he did was David Bush though, have to give him credit there. I'd love to have a David Bush in the reds rotation. So maybe he sees the same kinds of qualities. We can only hope..

Or perhaps he steps into the pen this year :P

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:50 PM
Brandon Belt is still on the board. So is LaPorta.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:50 PM
It seems fairly likely that Buckley and the Reds will try to convert Watson to starting, a la David Bush (also a 2nd round pick). But here's the obvioulsy-begged question: why go to the trouble? Why not take a guy who's ALREADY a starter?

I would convert him to a starter just to see how it works out. Richie Gardner also had underwhelming stats in his last season at Arizona, and he turned out quite well before going down to injury, however, there is one big difference between Gardner and Watson - Richie wa a 6th rounder, Watson is a 2nd rounder. They should have taken someone who was already a starter, say a Steven Wright.

Kc61
06-06-2006, 04:50 PM
It seems fairly likely that Buckley and the Reds will try to convert Watson to starting, a la David Bush (also a 2nd round pick). But here's the obvioulsy-begged question: why go to the trouble? Why not take a guy who's ALREADY a starter?

I think the Reds are filling holes here. A college athletic outfielder (in case current OFs leave). An advanced reliever (certainly a need area). A utility infielder (as RA gets older). Perhaps you're right, but I think they would like to stockpile relievers, particularly with all the older guys now in the pen.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:50 PM
The number of people in this thread has dropped rather dramatically. Its like going to a ballgame and getting whipped ala Josh Beckett last night... The crowd leaves early.. heh.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:51 PM
Round 5 starts:

KC takes J. Godin P Old Dominion

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:52 PM
Round 5 has started