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westofyou
06-06-2006, 04:52 PM
Why not take a guy who's ALREADY a starter?Because of wear and tear on the college arm?

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:52 PM
Rockies pick someone from Puerto Rico BB Academy HS?

Where is this school located?

westofyou
06-06-2006, 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by flyer85
They can create a new kind of platoon, a road/home one.Earl Weaver did it. (not CF, but more corner guys)

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:54 PM
Baltimore's draft looks pretty solid so far as well..

Rowell, Beato, Britton.. solid picks I think.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:54 PM
That Velazquez guy looks a lot like Soriano, IMO. Build-wise. Never seen him hit (and I doubt he can hit like Soriano).

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:54 PM
3 picks away from the Reds pick

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 04:55 PM
That Velazquez guy looks a lot like Soriano, IMO. Build-wise. Never seen him hit (and I doubt he can hit like Soriano).

Why is he subject to the draft? Couldn't he be signed as a FA?

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 04:55 PM
Rockies pick someone from Puerto Rico BB Academy HS?

Where is this school located?

Not quite sure, but I know in '04 the Reds took a catcher from the PRBA

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 04:56 PM
Come on Reds, take Newton.

Puffy
06-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Cody Johnson is still on the board???

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Dodgers take Kyle Smit

Reds are on the clock.

BRM
06-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Reds are up.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Why is he subject to the draft? Couldn't he be signed as a FA?
Peurto Rico players are subject to the draft.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Reds take Joshua Ravin, Chatsworth HS (CA). 6'4" 195 RHP.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 04:58 PM
Joshua Ravin RHP

Puffy
06-06-2006, 04:58 PM
Dodgers take Kyle Smit

Reds are on the clock.

Well, I guess Smit does indeed happen

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 04:58 PM
Reds take Joshua Ravin RHP Chatsworth HS.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 04:58 PM
137. KC- Jason Godin, RHP, Old Dominion

138. Colorado- Helder Velasquez, SS, Puerto Rico Baseball Academy HS

139. TB- Shawn O'Malley, SS, Washington HS

140. Pittsburgh- Patrick Bresnehan, RHP, Arizona St. U.

Announcers still pimping LaPorta at this point.

141. Seattle- Nathan Adcock, RHP, Kentucky HS (North Hardin)

142. Detroit- Scott Sizemore, 2B/SS, Virginia Commonwealth U.

143. Dodgers- Kyle Smit, RHP, Nevada HS

144. Cincinnati- Joshua Ravin, RHP, California HS

No info.

Benihana
06-06-2006, 04:58 PM
Josh Ravin RHP from HS

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 04:58 PM
Chatsworth righthander Josh Ravin was also dealing with health issues, which haven't required surgery but did sideline him for a month with a tired arm. He was recovering the velocity on his 89-91 mph fastball, which has touched 92-93 regularly in the past, and showing a decent changeup (which was better early in the year and last fall) and serviceable breaking ball. Ravin is considered signable and moved ahead of Agoura High's Jason Stoffel, who entered the year battling with Chris Tillman as the top prep pitcher in the area.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 04:59 PM
Part of the "Luxury Tax" should include forfeiture of draft picks as well as cash payments.

Or something along those lines.

I disagree. You can't blatantly penalize success (and let's face it, the big market teams are a success). If the Yanks/Red Sox get penalized enough, that brings down the entire industry.

Small market teams can trade for guys and let them walk and get the picks. The Reds could've offered Aurillia arb last year and let him walk, for example, but they didn't. The Reds could've kept Randa, offered him arb and got a draft pick.. Of course, there are risks with that strategy, but Boston assumes the same risks. I seem to recall Oakland having something like 5 or 6 picks in the first two round a few years ago.. Small market teams can work the system (if they chose).

Not only that, but every year, there's some nice high school players that fall because they seem commited to college. There's always the option to pick one of those guys in round 30 and throw money at them.. that's pretty much equivalent to getting a sandwhich pick.. Look at Adam Dunn. The Reds were the only team willing to court him because everyone else assumed he'd play football. Small market teams can win at the draft (look at Florida, Oakland and Cleveland). They just have to be smart. The Reds haven't been smart in recent history (as well as several other small markets). That's why Boston looks to have an unfair advantage.

Not to mention that Cincy has put about zero energy into Latin America for the past 5 years. It's the Reds fault they have no farm system, not Boston's.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 05:00 PM
The scouting video looks solid.. Mechanics look okay.. Doesn't fall over himself. Fastball has some late life, boring action to it from what I saw..

The fastball needs to get up a tick tho.. the velocity isn't there.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 05:01 PM
Ravin is 6'4"/195#, which is a good projectable pitcher's body.

145. Baltimore- Bobby Henson, SS, Oklahoma HS

146. SF- Michael McBryde, OF, Florida Atlantic U.

147. Arizona- Hector Ambriz, RHP, UCLA

148. Texas- Christopher Davis, 1B, Navarro JC

149. Cubs- Jeff Samardzija, U. of Notre Dame

Man, that guy slid. Guess it's because of him playing WR for the football team.

150. Toronto- Luke Hopkins, 1B, New Mexico St.

6'2"/240#.

151. Washington- Cory Vanallen, LHP, Baylor U.

A third-round pick in 2003, but didn't improve like Stubbs or Miller. Now he slides

152. Milwaukee-Chris Errecart, OF, U. Cal-Berkeley

153. SD- Andrew Underwood, RHP, Fresno St.

154. Mets- Stephen Holmes, RHP, U. of Rhode Island

155. Florida- David Hatcher, C, UNC-Wilmington

156. Minnesota- Devin Shepherd, RF, California HS

Big football player type.

157. Philadelphia- Quintin Berry, CF, San Diego St. U.

158. Oakland- Jermaine Mitchell, CF, UNC-Greensboro

159. Houston- Casey Hudspeth, RHP, U. of South Florida

160. Atlanta- Kevin Gunderson, LHP, Oregon State U.

Just a profile on him this weekend in the Oregonian. He's a reliever with a rubber arm. His uncle Eric Gunderson was a LOOGY in the bigs for a decade.

161. Cleveland- Chris Archer, RHP, North Carolina HS

162. Angels- Kenneth Herndon, RHP, Gulf Coast CC (FL)

163. Boston- Dustin Richardson, LHP, Texas Tech U.

164. Yankees- George Kontos, RHP, Northwestern

165. White Sox- John Shelby, 2B, U. of Kentucky

Son of former MLBer of same name.

166. Cardinals- Shane Robinson, OF, Florida St.

I must have made a crappy third-round pick in the mock draft (HS RHP Nathan Karns). He hasn't been picked yet.

Aronchis
06-06-2006, 05:02 PM
I disagree. You can't blatantly penalize success (and let's face it, the big market teams are a success). If the Yanks/Red Sox get penalized enough, that brings down the entire industry.

Small market teams can trade for guys and let them walk and get the picks. The Reds could've offered Aurillia arb last year and let him walk, for example, but they didn't. The Reds could've kept Randa, offered him arb and got a draft pick.. Of course, there are risks with that strategy, but Boston assumes the same risks. I seem to recall Oakland having something like 5 or 6 picks in the first two round a few years ago.. Small market teams can work the system (if they chose).

Not only that, but every year, there's some nice high school players that fall because they seem commited to college. There's always the option to pick one of those guys in round 30 and throw money at them.. that's pretty much equivalent to getting a sandwhich pick.. Look at Adam Dunn. The Reds were the only team willing to court him because everyone else assumed he'd play football. Small market teams can win at the draft (look at Florida, Oakland and Cleveland). They just have to be smart. The Reds haven't been smart in recent history (as well as several other small markets). That's why Boston looks to have an unfair advantage.

Not to mention that Cincy has put about zero energy into Latin America for the past 5 years. It's the Reds fault they have no farm system, not Boston's.

The Reds put "energy" into LA in 2004, it takes time for those guys to come through the pipes, Johnny Cueto is the first legit pitching prospect from there in a long time.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:02 PM
Cubs take Jeff Samardjia, WR from Notre Dame (Dwayne Jarrett is better ;))

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 05:02 PM
Cubs take Jeffrey Samardzjia from Notre Dame

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 05:03 PM
Ravin is 6'4"/195#, which is a good projectable pitcher's body.


Very true, wouldn't be surprised to see him up the velocity as he grows. The curve needs tightened up a bit... i liked what i saw on the video though..

corkedbat
06-06-2006, 05:03 PM
I think the Reds are filling holes here. A college athletic outfielder (in case current OFs leave). An advanced reliever (certainly a need area). A utility infielder (as RA gets older). Perhaps you're right, but I think they would like to stockpile relievers, particularly with all the older guys now in the pen.

You may be right KC, but I certainly hope not. All but the most elite picks are still 2-3 years away, so drafting to fill current holes on the ML roster makes little sense.

OFs w/ questionable bats, relievers with mediocre numbers backup CF and utility infielders can be had in the form of journeyman veterans. That is why you take the Best Player Available instead of what your current needs are. If nothing else, draft wisely and you can trade over-stocked positions for future needs.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:03 PM
Cubs take Sshcmardjaa...that kid from Notre Dame.

chicoruiz
06-06-2006, 05:04 PM
Anyone else look at Ravin's video on MLB.com? I'm no expert, but isn't his arm a little bit ahead of his body in his delivery? Plus I prefer guys with a tad bit more leg drive.

On a more serious note, the center fielder behind him in one of the early clips is definitely doing the pee-pee dance. Hurry up and get that third out, Josh, so this guy can get to a Port-O-Let!

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:06 PM
Mets draft Stephen Holmes, son of John Holmes.

Aronchis
06-06-2006, 05:06 PM
Raven is the "Dustin" Moseley" pick, though hopefully he fills out his frame better than Dustin, who didn't.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:07 PM
Mets take Stephen Holmes. I like this kid. RHP out of University of Rhode Island. He's a player I had my eye on in the mock draft.

I can't believe LaPorta isn't even considered a 5th round pick by some of these teams. :dunno:

BRM
06-06-2006, 05:08 PM
What's the scoop on LaPorta? I thought he was expected to go in the first three rounds.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 05:08 PM
I didn't notice any huge flaws with Ravin's delivery, but I'm not expert either.

Does anyone think that the Reds can now develope minor league talent with Krivs in place? Have the put better instructors in place?

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:08 PM
Mets draft Stephen Holmes, son of John Holmes.

That John Holmes. I bet he's doesn't have a high Dontrelle-like leg kick then.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:10 PM
MLB says Valaika profiles best as a 2b OR UTILITY GUY!?!?!

Looks like we have Aurillia's replacement lined up. That was key :laugh:

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:10 PM
That John Holmes. I bet he's doesn't have a high Dontrelle-like leg kick then.

I was joking, but that would be funny.

He wouldn't even have to carry a bat with him to the plate. ;)

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:11 PM
I was joking, but that would be funny.

He wouldn't even have to carry a bat with him to the plate. ;)

I was going to say, if that really was true, surely Puffy would have taken him in the first round of our mock draft. :laugh:

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 05:12 PM
haha.. dougdirt calling this the worst reds draft ever on sickel's site :P

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:12 PM
Indians take RHP Chris Archer, Clayton HS (NC).

He's another pitcher I liked when I was doing research for the mock draft.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:13 PM
haha.. dougdirt calling this the worst reds draft ever on sickel's site :P


I know. He's heartbroken.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 05:13 PM
How many rounds do they do today?

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:14 PM
Let me guess...two hour break after round five? ;)

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 05:15 PM
Sounds like a Bowden pick to me.
That was my first thought on Stubbs :laugh:

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 05:15 PM
White Sox take John Shelby 2B UK
Cards take Shane Robinson CF FSU. End of round 5.

15fan
06-06-2006, 05:15 PM
Buckley is either stupid, or unconventional. I love what he did was David Bush though, have to give him credit there. I'd love to have a David Bush in the reds rotation.


The Reds could've kept Randa, offered him arb and got a draft pick.. Of course, there are risks with that strategy, but Boston assumes the same risks.

The Reds shoulda drafted Dave Bush?

The Reds shoulda sat on Randa & gone the arb route?

It's like I'm reading my own stuff from the waaaaaaay back machine (aka The Archives).

(Randa to the Pads for two minor leaguers and the 2002 Draft thread, to be specific.)

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:15 PM
Let me guess...two hour break after round five? ;)

15 mins, I believe.

White Sox take John Shelby, son of former major leaguer of the same name.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:15 PM
Only one Reds 1st round position players ever had a real good career, plenty of tweeners and some players but so far only 1 stud.

That's 41 years of drafting and counting.

I count at least two:

Larkin and Kearns.

I want to say there was another 1st rounder from the 80's, but I'm not sure.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:15 PM
Cards take Shane Robinson, on base machine from Florida State. Good pick.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 05:16 PM
Because of wear and tear on the college arm?

Possibly, I guess. But is it riskier for wear and tear, or riskier because of the conversion?

reds44
06-06-2006, 05:16 PM
15 mins, I believe.

White Sox take John Shelby, son of former major leaguer of the same name.
10 minute. 4:25

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:17 PM
Cards take Shane Robinson.

The Cards are having a pretty good draft, too.

Ottavino, Chris Perez, John Jay, Mark Hamilton, Degerman, and Shane Robinson.

Those are all nice picks.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:18 PM
Again, Jordan Newton, Lars Anderson, Jordan Walden, and Matt LaPorta are all available going into the 6th round.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:18 PM
10 minute. 4:25

thanks.

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 05:19 PM
Cards take Shane Robinson.

The Cards are having a pretty good draft, too.

Ottavino, Chris Perez, John Jay, Mark Hamilton, Degerman, and Shane Robinson.

Those are all nice picks.


Agreed. Red Sox have stood out as well.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:19 PM
Again, Jordan Newton, Lars Anderson, Jordan Walden, and Matt LaPorta are all available going into the 6th round.

As is Brandon Belt ;)

Hoosier Red
06-06-2006, 05:19 PM
Again, Jordan Newton, Lars Anderson, Jordan Walden, and Matt LaPorta are all available going into the 6th round.

Then they clearly would have been bad picks in rounds 2-4 ;)

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 05:20 PM
haha.. dougdirt calling this the worst reds draft ever on sickel's site :P

Oh I am not happy. I think the 5th round pick is the only one that even makes the slightest bit of sense.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:20 PM
114. Cincinnati- Justin Reed, CF, Mississippi HS

Speedy, football scholarship to Ole Miss. Compared to the guy who's Kenny Lewis fast. Grrreat.

Actually, by the time you get to round 4, it's not a bad idea to start grabbing tools guys and risky pitchers with tools and hope to strike gold. All IMO, of course.

I would've prefered to take our college closer with a 4+ ERA here instead of round 2.. :(

Gainesville Red
06-06-2006, 05:20 PM
Shane Robinson is a pretty good pick for the Cards

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:20 PM
Hoosier, Kyle Gibson hasn't been picked yet.

Just FYI.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:21 PM
wayne didnt make the pick

Ok, whoever is running the draft for the Reds.. I didn't mean for that to be taken literally :)

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:23 PM
Mets draft Stephen Holmes, son of John Holmes.

He's fast and has one BIG tool. :laugh:

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:25 PM
You all do realize that, after Bruce, we have no realistic starting OF prospects in the system. And Dunn and Kearns are as likely to be wearing another uniform in 3-4 years than they are to be Reds.

I wholeheartedly agree. The Reds need to add talent everywhere in their system. I really don't mind grabbing toolsy guys in the 4th and 5th round. At that point, there are no sure things, so why not take a chance on an athlete (as opposed to a crappy pitcher)?

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 05:26 PM
Drew Stubbs on MLB Radio. His advisor worked out a deal before the pick. So he should at least sign quickly. There's talk of Ken Griffey Jr. and defense.

The talk about defense is so passionate I'm thinking of Dane Sardinha with an outfielder's glove. They mention some hitting stuff at the end.

Then an email that asks why LaPorta hasn't been drafted. And no Dellin Betances, either.

As an aside, Dave Ronsley or whatever his name is from Perfect Game USA? Great commentator. Somebody make him the Mel Kiper of baseball.

Round 6

167. KC- Harold Mozingo, RHP, Virginia Commonwealth

168. Colorado- Kevin Clark, OF, Manatee JC (FL)

169. TB- Nevin Ashley, C, Indiana St. U.

170. Pittsburgh- Jim Negrych, 2B, U. of Pittsburgh

171. Seattle- Adam Moore, C, U. Texas-Arlington

172. Detroit- Jordan Newton, C, Western Kentucky

There goes one of those guys.

173. Dodgers- Garrett White, LHP, Ole Miss

174. Cincinnati- Jordan Smith, RHP, CC of Southern Nevada

6'4"/210#.

175. Baltimore- Jason Berken, RHP, Clemson

176. SF- Ryan Rohlinger, SS, U. of Oklahoma

177. Arizona- Joey Side, CF, U. of Georgia

178. Texas- Jacob Brigham, RHP, Florida HS

179. Cubs- Josh Lansford, 3B, Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo

Carney's kid.

180. Toronto- Brian Jeroloman, C, U. of Florida

181. Washington- Zachry Zinicola, RHP, Arizona St. U.

182. Milwaukee- Micah Wright, LHP, Oklahoma St. U.

183. SD- Tim Bascom, RHP, Central Florida U.

184. Mets- Scott Schafer, RHP, Texas HS

185. Florida- Justin Jacobs, SS, California HS

186. Minnesota- Jeff Christy, C, U. of Nebraska-Lincoln

187. Philadelphia- Daniel Brauer, LHP, Northwestern

188. Oakland- Andrew Bailey, RHP, Wagner College (NJ)

189. Houston- David Norris, RHP, Cal Poly-SLO

190. Atlanta- Steven Figueroa, RHP, Florida HS

191. Cleveland- Daniel Creps, RHP, Texas A&M

192. Angels- Robert Fish, LHP, California HS

193. Boston- Zachary Daeges, 3B, Creighton

194. Yankees- Mitchell Hilligoss, SS, Purdue

195. White Sox-call a timeout. Two remaining.

195. White Sox-Brian Omogrosso, RHP, Indiana St. U.

196. St. Louis- Floyd Norrick, LHP, Southern Illinois U.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:26 PM
He's fast and has one BIG tool. :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

That made me laugh.

Any word on where Ron Jeremy is projected to go? I heard he can hit it pretty hard.

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 05:28 PM
here comes some more pain....

flyer85
06-06-2006, 05:29 PM
Drew Stubbs on MLB Radio. His advisor worked out a deal before the pick. Stubbs was simply a signability pick. Wouldn't have mattered if Miller had fallen to them, they wouldn't have selected him. The only reason you to make a pre-draft deal is because you are more interested in cost certainty than talent, otherwise you would select the best player available and then negotiate with them at that time.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:29 PM
Newton goes two picks before the Reds! Damn!

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:29 PM
Jordan Newton goes to the Tigers.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 05:30 PM
Juco pitcher.. sweet

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:30 PM
Reds take Jordan Smith. Southern Nevada CC. 6'4" 210 RHP.

reds44
06-06-2006, 05:30 PM
Jordan Smith.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:30 PM
I guess I could better understand the infatuation with CF types if GABP wasn't one of the smallest and easiest CFs to play in the majors.

But I think the Reds want to improve defense everywhere.

As an example, I think the Indians trading Coco Crisp was at least part of the reason their pitching regressed. It really helps to have OF that can cover ground.

I really wouldn't mind if the Reds continue to grab these toolsy athletes for the rest of the draft if they can't find any pitchers that intrigue them. The Reds have tried spending 75% of their picks on pitchers in the past (just for the sake of collecting pitchers) and it hasn't worked.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:31 PM
Jordan Smith is 6'4" 210. Like the frame, now what kind of stuff does he possess?

redsmetz
06-06-2006, 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by westofyou
Only one Reds 1st round position players ever had a real good career, plenty of tweeners and some players but so far only 1 stud.

That's 41 years of drafting and counting.

I count at least two:

Larkin and Kearns.

I want to say there was another 1st rounder from the 80's, but I'm not sure.

I would say, not counting Kearns because it's too early (yet it looks promising), I would say these were decent picks:

Bernie Carbo (12 years)
Dan Wilson (14 years - All Star)
Barry Larkin (18 years - All Star, MVP, possible HOF)
Ron Robinson (9 years)
Don Gullett (9 years - .686 Win AVG)
Gary Nolan (10 years - .611 Win AVG - All Star)
Wayne Simpson (6 years - All Star)
Nick Esasky (8 years)

The final four all had some injury problems, otherwise they would have had significantly better careers - but things happen.

Now, that's 8 out of 41, although I think you have to draw off the last handful to see how they actually pan out. It's been a rough road, but there were some decent players coming through at the top for a little bit.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:32 PM
Texas takes Jacob Brigham, yet another pitcher I looked at during our mock draft, and liked. HS pitcher out of FL

reds44
06-06-2006, 05:33 PM
2nd 6'4 pitcher we took. I like that.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:33 PM
Jordan Smith is another reliever. Great.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 05:33 PM
Stubbs was simply a signability pick.
That ticks me off to no end, if their is one place I would LOVE the new owners to pour money it's the draft. :bang:

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:34 PM
Toronto takes Brian Jeroloman, C. UofF.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:34 PM
The Tigers are killing me. Ryan Strieby and Jordan Newton are two guys I was hoping the Reds would pick, and the damn Tigers scooped them up before the Reds pick.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:35 PM
Because of wear and tear on the college arm?

Good point. Also, I think the Reds need to pick the best players available. They must've seen something they liked in that second round pick. Lord knows we need some good relievers in the system as well.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:35 PM
The Tigers are killing me. Ryan Strieby and Jordan Newton are two guys I was hoping the Reds would pick, and the damn Tigers scooped them up before the Reds pick.

That was just to tease you. The Reds wouldn't have taken them anyway.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:36 PM
Why is he subject to the draft? Couldn't he be signed as a FA?

Puerto Rico is now subject to the draft. It was a fairly recent change, although I forget the exact year they changed it.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:36 PM
They must've seen something they liked in that second round pick.

Yeah, his eyes light up when told that he would be a 2nd round pick and could potentially make $300,000.00

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 05:36 PM
The Reds wouldn't have taken them anyway.
Not enough tools ;)

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 05:36 PM
Nevertheless, scouts saw enough of righthander Jordan Smith to run him into the first 10 rounds. Smith went to Salt Lake Community College as a catcher/first baseman but realized arm strength was his best tool and transferred to Southern Nevada so he could pitch. While he was used in a limited role, his fastball sat in the 92-94 mph range and touched 96. More significantly to scouts, he wasn't under control to any club. His 6-foot-4, 220-pound frame is another plus. His inexperience and developing secondary stuff are drawbacks, though his slider and split-finger fastball both improved as the season progressed, as Smith learned to throw both with some power.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:37 PM
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060606&content_id=1491219&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Drew Stubbs conference call.

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 05:38 PM
In all honesty, and I can get chewed out for saying this, but does $$$ seem to be coming into play here? I've been in meetings for a good part of the day and it seems as if we are overdrafting like never before. Am I wrong?

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 05:39 PM
In all honesty, and I can get chewed out for saying this, but does $$$ seem to be coming into play here? I've been in meetings for a good part of the day and it seems as if we are overdrafting like never before. Am I wrong?
I get that feeling to

Hope it's not a sign of things to come from Casto.

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 05:39 PM
I get that feeling to

Hope it's not a sign of things to come from Casto.
Me neither, but I'd like to have a Q&A with Krivsky.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:40 PM
In all honesty, and I can get chewed out for saying this, but does $$$ seem to be coming into play here? I've been in meetings for a good part of the day and it seems as if we are overdrafting like never before. Am I wrong?

Coming into play? nah. I think Abe Lincoln is actually making the picks.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:41 PM
The Reds shoulda drafted Dave Bush?

The Reds shoulda sat on Randa & gone the arb route?

It's like I'm reading my own stuff from the waaaaaaay back machine (aka The Archives).

(Randa to the Pads for two minor leaguers and the 2002 Draft thread, to be specific.)

Good to see you back, it's been awhile (although I don't read every thread anymore). Heck, I even had a "gm" siting a few weeks ago. Good points.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:45 PM
I would say, not counting Kearns because it's too early (yet it looks promising), I would say these were decent picks:
.

Thanks.. it was Esasky I was thinking of. I totally forgot about Dan Wilson as well.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 05:46 PM
On no one drafting Laporta, it doesn't matter when/where he is picked. Boras has been able to create his own set of draft rules and you sign up for 'em when you pick one of his players. You either pay the money or his player won't sign. Thats why Hochevar was the 40th pick last year and the first this year. If somebody takes Laporta they know that they have to offer 1st/2nd round money or it is a wasted pick because he won't sign.

reds44
06-06-2006, 05:46 PM
Justin Turner

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:46 PM
Reds 7th round pick:

Justin Turner 2B Cal St. Fullerton.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:46 PM
Reds select Justin Turner, 2B, Cal State Fullerton

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 05:46 PM
Now just highlights.

Round 7: Tigers make RHP Jonah Nickerson from Oregon St. the third Beavers pitcher drafted. He just buzzsawed the Kansas Jayhawks for OSU in the College WS this weekend.

Reds get... Justin Turner, 2B, Cal State Fullerton. 5'11"/180#. Probably a utility guy, right?

The Perfect Game USA announcer that I think is so smart said, "You'd be surprised if he's not a big-league infielder."

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 05:46 PM
Another middle infielder.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 05:47 PM
Yeah, his eyes light up when told that he would be a 2nd round pick and could potentially make $300,000.00


:laugh: I never thought I'd see the day when I was one of the most optimistic guys on the board.

Let's hope Cast isn't going to end up pulling another Lindner/Allen con job on us. I couldn't take that, so I'm going to be optimistic for awhile.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 05:47 PM
Another middle infielder.
It's a need?

;)

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 05:48 PM
That leaves the top draft on Fullerton's' team to a duel between its double-play tandem, shortstop Blake Davis and second baseman Justin "Red" Turner.

While Davis has better tools, most observers favored Turner, a senior who is the heart and soul of the Titans and a former batboy in the program. Many college baseball fans remember him from the 2003 College World Series, when as a freshman he was hit in the face while squaring to bunt on a pitch against Stanford. Turner also turned his ankle on the play and missed Team USA's college national trials after doctors determined that he broke a bone in his ankle on the play. He recovered to have a steady, gritty career and saved his best for last, posting career highs in batting (.352), slugging (.500) and stolen bases (18) as a senior--after declining to sign with the Yankees as a 29th-round pick last year. One scout compared Turner favorably with Red Sox prospect Dustin Pedroia, an All-American at Arizona State and a 2004 second-round pick. Like Pedroia, Turner makes all the plays defensively (even at short) thanks to superior footwork and profiles as an above-average defender on the right side of the infield thanks to his fringy arm. He's an average runner with excellent instincts.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 05:49 PM
Turner's stats:


Batting StatisticsYear Team Name League Age Org. Level G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP IBB SH SF DP AVG OBP SLG OPS

2003 California State University, Fullerton NCAA - NCAA 62 224 40 73 9 1 1 39 13 5 31 22 10 2 12 7 .326 .412 .388 800
2004 California State University, Fullerton NCAA - NCAA 64 253 45 77 16 0 0 34 7 1 20 44 15 9 7 5 .304 .380 .368 748
2005 California State University, Fullerton NCAA - NCAA 62 244 54 79 17 2 3 41 11 3 17 32 12 11 3 8 .324 .391 .447 838

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:50 PM
So he's a good utility player....

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 05:51 PM
Take a chance on Jordan Walden.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 05:51 PM
Turner
http://www.calebgroom.com/images/cws2003/justin_turner.jpg

http://www.bigwest.org/assets/sports/baseball/CSF-Turner-web.jpg

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:52 PM
Atta boy, Red.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 05:52 PM
He looks like he hustles and all that stuff

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:53 PM
He looks like he hustles and all that stuff


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Nice observation, Krono.

reds44
06-06-2006, 05:53 PM
MLB radio

"You would be surprised if Justin Turner isn't a major league infielder"

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 05:54 PM
Scrappiness factor is off the charts for Red Turner.

flyer85
06-06-2006, 05:54 PM
He looks like he hustles and all that stuffFreel without the wheel

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:54 PM
Yankees take Tim Norton, a guy taken in our mock draft, in round 7.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 05:55 PM
Round 8 has started.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:56 PM
No more breaks. Let's get down and dirty...

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 05:56 PM
Good work in here today RL :)

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 05:57 PM
Reds are on the clock.

Reds select Travis Webb LHP Washington ST.

6-4" 205 Lbs.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 05:57 PM
Reds pick Travis Webb - LHP

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:57 PM
Reds take Travis Webb LHP Washington St. 6'4 (again) 205

ochre
06-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Talks to have him change his first name to Brandon are now underway...

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 05:58 PM
Someone please take Brandon Belt.

Kids going to own the all-time K record someday, I tell ya.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 05:59 PM
Laporta still out there?

I hope we take a chance on a guy like him or the Weldon guy OBM keeps talkin about in a late round...

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 05:59 PM
Dan Obrien now off the board

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 05:59 PM
Webb's 2005 stats are ugly:



Pitching StatisticsYear Team Name Lg Age Org. Level W L ERA G GS CG SH GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WP BK H9 HR9 BB9 K9 WHIP

2005 Washington State University NCAA - NCAA 0 5 9.08 23 3 0 0 0 37.2 49 40 38 2 29 28 2 1 11.71 0.48 6.93 6.69 2.07

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 05:59 PM
Talks to have him change his first name to Brandon are now underway...
And teach him to throw differently ;)

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:00 PM
Good work in here today RL :)

Thanks. I tried. Impossible to keep up and work at the same time.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 06:00 PM
Reds take Travis Webb LHP Washington St. 6'4 (again) 205

Yet another reliever.

pedro
06-06-2006, 06:00 PM
A moment of silence for Billy Preston everyone. (September 9, 1946 – June 6, 2006)

BRM
06-06-2006, 06:00 PM
Laporta still out there?


Yes.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:01 PM
Laporta still out there?

I hope we take a chance on a guy like him or the Weldon guy OBM keeps talkin about in a late round...

Yes, LaPorta is still available.

Jordan Waldon. He's still available too.

Oh, and so is Brandon Belt. ;)

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 06:02 PM
Yet another reliever.
The new plan..no starters, just 9 relievers a day.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:03 PM
The Twins just took a guy named Dinkelman.

Don't know why that's funny, but it is.

Ha.

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 06:03 PM
2006 stats have Webb's ERA at 2.17. It looks like he was used as a situational lefty. It seems we could have done better in this round.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 06:05 PM
The Yankees took Dellin Betances....a guy I took in the 2nd round of my mock draft, went as high as the first round in some mock drafts.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:06 PM
Yankees take Dellin Betances in the 8th round.

Could be a gem.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 06:06 PM
Round 8:

Reds tab Travis Webb, LHP, Eastern Washington U. 6'4"/205#. Another pitcher's body, huh?

Baltimore picks Jedidiah Stephen, SS, Ohio State one pick later.

Mets take a guy who's 6'10" out of a Kansas CC. Guess you can always see him coming.

Dellin Betances finally goes to the Yankees with pick #254.

Why is it that the official draft announcer guy can pronounce all the Hispanic stuff correctly, but we have to hear "Ore-GON!" every time?

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 06:06 PM
Round 9 has started.

M2
06-06-2006, 06:07 PM
Yankees take Dellin Betances in the 8th round.

Could be a gem.

Agreed.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:07 PM
Round 8:
Why is it that the official draft announcer guy can pronounce all the Hispanic stuff correctly, but we have to hear "Ore-GON!" every time.

I know, Rico Savajalajero comes rolling off the tongue, yet Ore-GON is the best he can do with an English word.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 06:08 PM
He should just say California's Canada

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 06:08 PM
Reds select Jeremy Burchett RHP Cal-Berkley

6-2" 215 LBs.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 06:08 PM
Round 9:

Reds get Jeremy Burchett, RHP, Cal Berkeley. 6'2"/215#.

Round 10

RHP Josh Roenicke, UCLA. One pick after the Dodgers take ex-Reds draftee Andy D'Alessio (1B Clemson). Sigh. Cardinals get RHP Blair Erickson, a college closer I was considering taking in the mock draft, at the end of the round.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:09 PM
Reds pick in the 9th:

Jeremy Burchett, UC Berkley 6'2" 215. RHP.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 06:10 PM
Are the Reds trying to break a record of most players drafted whose name starts with the letter J?

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 06:11 PM
Another reliever with a less than stellar k/bb rate.

Is Buckley trying to piss us off? It's working.

Kc61
06-06-2006, 06:11 PM
Are the Reds trying to break a record of most players drafted whose name starts with the letter J?

And From California. And big guys all.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 06:11 PM
Webb

His top pro prospect was Arizona State transfer Travis Webb, who pitches off a fastball that has reached 93 mph. His secondary stuff was too short for him to start for a team thin on the mound, but he showed the ability to go through a lineup once with his heater. He also has athletic bloodlines, as he's a cousin of former Seattle Sonics (and more famously Cleveland Cavaliers) guard Craig Ehlo.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:11 PM
Are the Reds trying to break a record of most players drafted whose name starts with the letter J?

Well, if you look at it, it's a better strategy than trying to break the record of drafting players with no pre-draft write-ups from any major source.

Although, I think we already own that record.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 06:12 PM
Is Buckley trying to piss us off? It's working.
I'm very disappointed :(

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 06:12 PM
Burchett's stats for this year:


Player ERA W-L APP GS CG SHO/CBO SV IP H R ER BB SO 2B 3B HR AB B/Avg WP HBP BK SFA SHA
33 Burchett, Jeremy. 3.19 0-2 23 0 0 0/0 5 31.0 29 11 11 14 23 3 1 0 111 .261 2 4 0 1 2

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 06:12 PM
Burchett's Career Statistics
YEAR AVG G AB R H RBI 2B 3B HR BB SO SB
2003 .248 34 109 10 27 14 9 0 1 10 21 1
2004 .278 20 36 2 10 0 1 0 0 2 7 1
2005 .266 25 64 11 17 10 4 0 2 10 15 3
Total .258 79 209 23 54 24 14 0 3 22 43 5


YEAR ERA G GS CG W L S IP H R ER BB SO
2003 0.00 4 0 0 0 0 0 2.3 1 0 0 1 1
2004 12.27 4 0 0 0 0 0 3.7 4 5 5 7 4
2005 9.00 7 0 0 0 0 0 6.0 3 6 6 7 4
Total 8.25 15 0 0 0 0 0 12.0 8 11 11 15 9

Gallen5862
06-06-2006, 06:12 PM
Is Laporta still available? If he is I would draft him and pay him second or Third round money. There is no way that he could not be the best available player on the Reds board. What happened to the promise to fans to take best available. I have been under Thunderstorm warnings all day. I missed alot of our picks.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:13 PM
If you're big, tall, from California, your name starts with a "J", and will sign for under slot money, we're interested!

BRM
06-06-2006, 06:13 PM
Building a bullpen through the draft, huh?

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 06:14 PM
Is Laporta still available? If he is I would draft him and pay him second or Third round money. There is no way that he could not be the best available player on the Reds board. What happened to the promise to fans to take best available. I have been under Thunderstorm warnings all day. I missed alot of our picks.
He is still available.

Gallen5862
06-06-2006, 06:14 PM
I was hoping the Reds would draft Raynor or Hatcher from UNC-Wilmington.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 06:14 PM
Building a bullpen through the draft, huh?
Who needs starters?

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 06:14 PM
Is Laporta still available? If he is I would draft him and pay him second or Third round money. There is no way that he could not be the best available player on the Reds board. What happened to the promise to fans to take best available. I have been under Thunderstorm warnings all day. I missed alot of our picks.

Just curious, where do you live...a rain forest? It seems like you are under thunderstorm warnings every night. ;)

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:16 PM
Mets take Jeremy Barfield, son of Jesse in the 9th round.

Puffy
06-06-2006, 06:16 PM
Well, we all know the major league draft is a complete crapshoot - but I gotta say I am less than impressed with this draft by the Reds. Pitchers with less than stellar peripherals and utility infielders and Juan Pierre outfielders.

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 06:17 PM
Round 10 Begins.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:17 PM
Yankees get Melancon in the 9th round. Forgot about him.

This is where teams like the Yanks start ripping people off. They'll probably grab LaPorta in the next round and sign him.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:18 PM
This is the last round today, correct?

BRM
06-06-2006, 06:19 PM
Is there something about LaPorta's game that is worrying teams or is this just a Boras/money issue?

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 06:19 PM
pick 294 for the Cincinnati Reds is Josh Roenicke RHP UC LA

Reds Fanatic
06-06-2006, 06:19 PM
Reds select Joshua Roenicke RHP UC Los Angeles
6-3 195 Lbs.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 06:19 PM
Dodgers took a former Reds pick D'Alesso from Clemson

Gallen5862
06-06-2006, 06:20 PM
Wilmington, NC. It does seem like we have been hit with alot of storms lately.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 06:20 PM
J name from Cali.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:20 PM
Reds, round 10:

Josh Roenicke, 6'3" 195 UCLA RHP.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 06:20 PM
Is there something about LaPorta's game that is worrying teams or is this just a Boras/money issue?

I bet its Boras/Money for the most part, ?'s about his game second.. he'll be a late round pick that gets top round money IMO.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 06:20 PM
Is there something about LaPorta's game that is worrying teams or is this just a Boras/money issue?
Has to be money, guys with injury troubles have already been taken.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 06:20 PM
Most of the top players in the Pac-10's California schools were expected to go in the first five rounds and have been reviewed above, but every school had exceptions. UCLA has two closers who could be picked in Brent Rustich, who missed most of the season with a finger tendon problem similar to what has sidelined big leaguer Adam Eaton, and fifth-year senior Josh Roenicke, son of ex-big leaguer Gary. Rustich was the Bruins' closer until he got hurt, and Roenicke took over for him while doubling as the team's center fielder (he's a plus defender there, but his bat is short). The 23-year-old Roenicke has shown 95 mph with his fastball and will spin a plus slider at times. His inexperience keeps him from repeating his mechanics consistently, but he's athletic at 6-foot-3, 195 pounds and has arm strength, two good building blocks for pitchers.

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 06:20 PM
We just drafted a guy who turns 24 in a few months. :lol: I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 06:22 PM
what in the world is with all the relievers?!?

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 06:23 PM
Has to be money, guys with injury troubles have already been taken.
It looks like maybe we are overdrafting enough people to make up for when we overpay LaPorta. Or maybe Casto sold the team back to Linder b/f the draft.

Aronchis
06-06-2006, 06:25 PM
These bullpen picks have a very Twinsian feel to them, maybe a sign of Krivsky intervention.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Reds, round 10:

Josh Roenicke, 6'3" 195 UCLA RHP.

Another reliever! Hell Yes! Just what we needed.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Is this the backlash of $220,000 for Milton Loo?

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:26 PM
Is this the backlash of $220,000 for Milton Loo?

Milton Loo is looking like the best player we'll get out of this draft so far.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:27 PM
Is that it for today? :pray:

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 06:28 PM
Blair Erickson to the Cards. They managed to take someone who was an effective reliever his first two years before joining the rotation.

Puffy
06-06-2006, 06:28 PM
Did the Reds even scout outside of California?

Kc61
06-06-2006, 06:29 PM
Milton Loo is looking like the best player we'll get out of this draft so far.

And which GM drafted Milton?

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:29 PM
I don't know how many posts I made today, but my hands feel like they're gonig to fall off.

I'm going to watch my son's game. Maybe one of the coach's pitching in his game will be drafted tomorrow. My guess is only if they bring him in in relief.

See everyone tomorrow.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 06:30 PM
Have fun at the kids game RL

Gallen5862
06-06-2006, 06:30 PM
Looks like they are taking a break before starting back. I hope we can get Laporta. what other top players are still available?

Krusty
06-06-2006, 06:31 PM
Looks like we are making a run on arms heading in the middle rounds.

BRM
06-06-2006, 06:32 PM
Looks like we are making a run on arms heading in the middle rounds.

Bullpen arms at that.

Red Leader
06-06-2006, 06:32 PM
More drafting today....

Enjoy it.

I started a thread for tomorrow, so keep posting in this thread until they stop.

We'll switch over to the other thread for tomorrow.

Krusty
06-06-2006, 06:35 PM
I wonder if last year's draft if O'Brien drafted primary starting pitchers? If that is the case, I could see the run on relievers this draft.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 06:36 PM
Nathan Karns, my third-round mock draftee, finally goes to Houston at pick #309.

They call me "The Greek".

CTA513
06-06-2006, 06:38 PM
Reds select:
Brandon Rice - RHP
Spalding High School

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 06:39 PM
William Chambliss, any relation to Chris Chambliss?

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 06:40 PM
Round 11:

Reds go for...Brandon Rice, RHP, Georgia HS. 6'4"/210#. Big boy. Not bad.

Matt Latos, who was a second-round pick in our mock draft, finally goes to San Diego. Could be a steal because he fell due to "immaturity on the mound". That is... if he can be signed.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 06:40 PM
Rice is 6'4" 210lbs.. big boy for a HS'er..

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 06:41 PM
when it starts getting this deep all the names start running together and sounding the same

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 06:42 PM
We just drafted a guy who turns 24 in a few months. :lol: I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I'm crying, the Reds only chance for long term success is to draft wisely, so far this draft smells funky.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 06:43 PM
Anyone have any info on Brandon Rice? I couldnt find anything in a brief search...

IslandRed
06-06-2006, 06:43 PM
William Chambliss, any relation to Chris Chambliss?

No relation.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 06:44 PM
Anyone have any info on Brandon Rice? I couldnt find anything in a brief search...

Im pretty sure I found the link to his high school, but I cant get the links to work.

http://www.spalding.k12.ga.us/shs/sports.html

ochre
06-06-2006, 06:45 PM
Reds select Joshua Roenicke RHP UC Los Angeles
6-3 195 Lbs.
I hear they project him to grow approximately 1".

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 06:46 PM
Sox take Brandon Belt!

NC Reds
06-06-2006, 06:47 PM
Red Sox are having a great draft.

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 06:48 PM
This sucks.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 06:49 PM
Reds pick:
Logan Parker - First Baseman
University of Cincinnati

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 06:49 PM
Logan Parker, a 1b.. lefty bat..

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 06:49 PM
Round 12:

Reds take a local guy- Logan Parker, 1B, U. of Cincinnati!

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 06:53 PM
Round 12:

Reds take a local guy- Logan Parker, 1B, U. of Cincinnati!

That's a good pick.

6'4" and 220.

Hit .344/.465/.638 this year with 18 2B and 11 HR in 221 atbats. 54 walks to 31 K's.

Kc61
06-06-2006, 06:54 PM
2010 Reds will be the tallest team in baseball history.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 06:55 PM
That's a good pick.

6'4" and 220.

Hit .344/.465/.638 this year with 18 2B and 11 HR in 221 atbats. 54 walks to 31 K's.

He also had 7 triples and was 13 out of 14 on stolen bases.

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 06:56 PM
Why wouldn't they be taking a shot at laPorta or Walden? I can't figure it out.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 06:56 PM
Jordan Walden was taken by the Angels in round 12.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 06:57 PM
Jordan Walden finally leaves the board and was taken by the Angels

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 06:57 PM
Brandon Holden, another RHP good enough to get an MLB.com scouting report, goes to Pittsburgh in round 13.

ochre
06-06-2006, 06:58 PM
They want to make sure that Trevor Lawhorn and Drew Anderson are pushed by competition?

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 06:58 PM
BTW...MLB.com said our 3rd round pick profiles best as a 2b or utility guy. If that's his ceiling then the boys in the war room must be having a great time.

http://www.homesaleflorida.com/florida%20information%20clowns.jpg

CTA513
06-06-2006, 06:58 PM
Reds pick:
Kevin Gunter - RHP
Old Dominion University

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 06:58 PM
Round 13 for the Reds: Kevin Gunter, RHP, Old Dominion. 6'0"/220#.

edabbs44
06-06-2006, 06:58 PM
If the Angels sign Walden...this draft will have really been a disaster.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 07:00 PM
If the Angels sign Walden...this draft will have really been a disaster.
They will, I can almost promise that.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 07:04 PM
http://odusports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/gunter_kevin00.html

That website says Kevin Gunter is 6 foot 4 not 6 foot flat.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 07:04 PM
Jordan Walden was taken by the Angels in round 12.

The angels are so good at this.. taking guys with signability issues and getting them signed.

Nick Adenhart comes to mind...

CTA513
06-06-2006, 07:08 PM
Reds pick:
Carson Kainer - Outfielder
U Texas Austin

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 07:09 PM
Round 14: Carson Kainer, OF, U. of Texas at Austin. 6'0"/195#.

Cubs take the guy listed as the best Oregon HS player- it says he's "without one plus tool". Ouch.

Notre Dame RHP Jeff Manship goes to Minnesota.

dougdirt
06-06-2006, 07:10 PM
so we took 2/3 of Texas outfield.....

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 07:10 PM
Texans and Californians - its like Colorado..

ochre
06-06-2006, 07:13 PM
Texans and Californians - its like Colorado..
without the skiing

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 07:13 PM
Round 14: Carson Kainer, OF, U. of Texas at Austin. 6'0"/195#.

Cubs take the guy listed as the best Oregon HS player- it says he's "without one plus tool". Ouch.

Kainer is Stubbs' roommate at Texas.

jmcclain19
06-06-2006, 07:15 PM
10 of the 14 Reds drafted so far have been 4 year seniors

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 07:16 PM
I love it.. Baseball America's draft database appears to be free this year.. of the 6 players it has listed under our team already, only 1 has a scouting report. Stubbs.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 07:17 PM
http://www.texassports.com/doc_lib/000_stats/base/2006/teamcume.htm

Carson Kainer 2006 stats:
.364 AVG, 84 hits, 25 doubles, 3 triples, 4 homeruns, 66 RBI, 21 BB, 36 K

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 07:17 PM
Just to add insult to injury, Boston grabs Matt LaPorta.

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 07:17 PM
10 of the 14 Reds drafted so far have been 4 year seniors
Means they are older and have a smaller window to become productive major leaguers

Fantastic.

CTA513
06-06-2006, 07:18 PM
Reds pick:
Rafael Sanchez - Third Baseman
Queensborough CC

Falls City Beer
06-06-2006, 07:18 PM
These bullpen picks have a very Twinsian feel to them, maybe a sign of Krivsky intervention.

This draft has Krivsky all over it.

It's a very weird draft. But I bet the bullpen hums.

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 07:18 PM
Boston = great draft. Sigh.

OnBaseMachine
06-06-2006, 07:19 PM
This draft has Krivsky all over it.

It's a very weird draft. But I bet the bullpen hums.

Buckley is in charge of this draft.

Krivsky hired him, though.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 07:21 PM
Means they are older and have a smaller window to become productive major leaguers

Fantastic.


No, it means they've been "burned in", right, and surived the injury bug that hits 18-22 year olds, and are closer to the major leagues :) I thought taking college pitchers was better?

Hopefully we can get a couple of these relievers up to the big league club soon.

Trying to stay optimistic here.

Falls City Beer
06-06-2006, 07:21 PM
Buckley is in charge of this draft.

Krivsky hired him, though.

I know Buckley's in charge of it, but this draft reeks of Krivsky's weltanschauung.

Doc. Scott
06-06-2006, 07:22 PM
Round 15: Rafael Sanchez, 3B, Queensborough CC (NY). 6'1"/200#.

Aronchis
06-06-2006, 07:22 PM
I know Buckley's in charge of it, but this draft reeks of Krivsky's weltanschauung.

Especially on the relieving/big pitcher jihad. That is a Krivsky directive.

REDREAD
06-06-2006, 07:22 PM
I know Buckley's in charge of it, but this draft reeks of Krivsky's weltanschauung.

I agree that Krivsky probably has had plenty of input.

He doesn't seem to be like DanO (who was more than happy to delegate any work to someone else).

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 07:24 PM
Trying to stay optimistic here.
John Allen still works for the Reds:devil:

KronoRed
06-06-2006, 07:24 PM
I thought taking college pitchers was better?

How bout some with success? ;)

cincyinco
06-06-2006, 07:25 PM
15 rounds.. how many do they go today?

IslandRed
06-06-2006, 07:26 PM
10 of the 14 Reds drafted so far have been 4 year seniors

Don't confuse "four-year college" with "fourth-year senior." Most of those guys are juniors.