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Reds4Life
06-09-2006, 11:54 AM
Oh this would be priceless.

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/06/09/20060609-E1-03.html


Kathy Lynn Gray and Allison Kolodziej
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


What’ll it take to star as the next president of Ohio State University?

Top education headhunter Bill Funk, who’s found more than 250 presidents and provosts for colleges and universities over the years, makes the qualities sound superhuman: a great fundraiser, lobbyist, academician, manager, financier, visionary, consensus builder and public speaker with a sense of humor, humility, a passion for changing lives and a historic understanding of how higher education works.

"How many people are realistically, from every perspective, capable of taking that job?" Funk mused yesterday when asked what the OSU board of trustees should be looking for in its next president. Perhaps 60 to 80 people fit the profile, he estimates, although hundreds more might think they do.

Funk was surprised to learn that President Karen A. Holbrook had announced Wednesday that she’ll retire on June 30, 2007. But, he pointed out, the five years she’ll have in as president fits with the average tenure of four to six years for a public university leader. Holbrook said she’s retiring to spend more time with her husband, a retired oceanographer.

The OSU job, despite its complexity, is a very attractive one for other college presidents and provosts, said Funk, who last worked for Ohio State when he recruited William E. "Brit" Kirwan, the president before Holbrook.

He said the best candidates probably will come from other large research universities or perhaps be someone who’s worked at both a university and in a high-level government position in Washington.

One thing that probably won’t happen is for someone to jump from another Big Ten university presidency to Ohio State. Funk said that rarely happens.

Sheldon Steinbach, general counsel for the American Council on Education, said the OSU post is one of a few large-university vacancies at the moment. The others include Harvard University, the University of Iowa and Indiana University. New presidents recently were selected for the University of Colorado, the University of Arizona and Temple University, among others nationwide.

The trustees, Steinbach said, will be looking for "someone with a proven track record and someone who can seize the reins of office effectively and expeditiously," whether or not they’ve had experience working at Ohio State.

"OSU is too complex a university to have someone who hasn’t played ball in that ballpark," he said.

He said two possible candidates are Nancy L. Zimpher, University of Cincinnati president and former dean of the OSU College of Education, and Deborah A. Freund, provost at Syracuse University. Freund had been tapped to head UCLA but pulled out of the search after learning the school wouldn’t offer her husband a job.

A third possibility could be Betsy Hoffman, who resigned as president of the University of Colorado last year, Steinbach said.

Although some potential candidates might actively seek the OSU job, often the best are the ones who haven’t even thought about a change, Funk said. He said when his firm, Korn/Ferry International, is hired to search for a president, he’ll target 10 to 20 people he thinks have the right qualifications and try to woo and cajole them into considering the job.

That’s how he lined up Kirwan in 1998. Kirwan was president of the University of Maryland at the time and told Funk he was happy where he was, but Funk brought the OSU chairman of the board of trustees to visit him anyway. Eventually, Funk persuaded Kirwan to visit Ohio State and finally Kirwan agreed to be a candidate.

"It was a classic story of seduction," Funk said.

Michael Goodman, president of OSU’s undergraduate government in 2003-04, said the university’s next leader should identify with students, faculty members, the community and state.

"The university needs to find someone who understands all the various constituencies affected by the university," he said.

The president also should guarantee a balance between the undergraduate education and research.

"When I was on campus, it was critical that (undergraduates) remain a top priority to the university," he said.

Stephen Knoepfler, current chief of staff for the Undergraduate Student Government, said the next president should continue Holbrook’s efforts, especially in academics.

"I think that President Holbrook has done a pretty good job," he said. "I don’t know if all students feel that way, but I don’t have any qualms with her. If she needs to leave to spend more time with her husband, I think family comes first."

Knoepfler, a 21-year-old junior from Cincinnati, said issues such as state funding and safety should be top concerns for the next leader.

"The next president needs to be someone who can talk easily and openly with people down at the Statehouse because funding is something that is very important to us," he said. "It directly affects our tuition dollars."

The Ohio State board of trustees is expected to begin the presidential search within the next month. Funk estimated it will take six months or more to name a new president.


kgray@dispatch.com



akolodziej@dispatch.com

Yes, OSU, please hire Nancy Zimpher. PLEASE!

gonelong
06-09-2006, 12:14 PM
Oh this would be priceless.

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2006/06/09/20060609-E1-03.html



Yes, OSU, please hire Nancy Zimpher. PLEASE!

:eek::barf:

TeamBoone
06-09-2006, 01:31 PM
Truthfully? I wouldn't want her to go up to Columbus and ruin their sports program too.. but I sure as hell wish she'd get out of Dodge.

I must admit though (witch that I am), I'd like to see her canned rather than just move on up the food chain.

Cedric
06-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Oh but she is the exact type to move up the academia food chain. She's an elitist that is brilliant in political speak.

SeeinRed
06-09-2006, 01:54 PM
I just told my roomate about the news... He went crazy. We both attend UC. He is also a huge OSU football fan. Funny though, I bet some of my friends who are OSU fans (the same ones who said that Zimpher really wasn't that bad, mostly because they hated Bob Huggins) change their tune a little. No offense to UK fans out there, but it would be even more comical to me if they needed a new president and she was a canidate. I bet they change their tune too. :laugh: The standards that Nancy wants an atheletic department to recruit with are near impossible to meet. Unfortunately, I have a feeling she will be in Cincinnati much, much longer than I want her here. But considereing there hasn't been a time machine invented, that will always be the case.

WVRed
06-09-2006, 05:00 PM
I just told my roomate about the news... He went crazy. We both attend UC. He is also a huge OSU football fan. Funny though, I bet some of my friends who are OSU fans (the same ones who said that Zimpher really wasn't that bad, mostly because they hated Bob Huggins) change their tune a little. No offense to UK fans out there, but it would be even more comical to me if they needed a new president and she was a canidate. I bet they change their tune too. :laugh: The standards that Nancy wants an atheletic department to recruit with are near impossible to meet. Unfortunately, I have a feeling she will be in Cincinnati much, much longer than I want her here. But considereing there hasn't been a time machine invented, that will always be the case.

No thanks.

You can have her. We don't want her in Lexington.

Unassisted
06-09-2006, 05:12 PM
I know the UC men's basketball fans among us blame Nancy for the precipitous decline in the program, but her track record before UC was not so bad. At UW-Milwaukee, she was in charge when Bo Ryan came on board. After taking UW-M to the dance a couple of times, Bo moved a short drive west to Madison. Since going there he has reeled in a couple of Big Ten championships with the Badgers.

I'm just saying that she's not a complete train wreck when it comes to athletics or even men's basketball. Buckeye fans shouldn't lose any sleep if she moves to Columbus.

FWIW, the outgoing prez at Ohio State has picked up her share of enemies among fans by cracking down on drinking during football tailgate parties.

Matt700wlw
06-09-2006, 05:33 PM
Anything that gets Nancy out of UC is good for me.

savafan
06-09-2006, 07:12 PM
:bang: :angry: :censored:

Caveat Emperor
06-10-2006, 04:17 AM
I'm just saying that she's not a complete train wreck when it comes to athletics or even men's basketball. Buckeye fans shouldn't lose any sleep if she moves to Columbus.

She is an academic that simply doesn't understand that athletics (notably: Men's Basketball and Football) are the tail that wags the dog at most major universities. Like the President of my own alma mater, she's too wrapped up in this idealistic vision of "student athletes" and dedication to "academics first" that sounds really swell on paper but results in doormat programs that get obliterated by the guys who aren't so enamored with those ideas as they are kids with natural physical ability.

Nancy Zimpher represents the worst of acadamia: elitist and out of touch with reality -- caught up in her own quest to further carve a niche for her and her ilk that is seperate from the rest of the population. The mission of a public university is to provide educational opportunity to citizens of the state -- not just those select few who raise the school's profile with high test scores and top grades coming out of school.

redsfan30
06-10-2006, 10:31 AM
Please God, no!

Caseyfan21
06-10-2006, 11:19 PM
Celebration of Holbrook leaving getting crushed by this. I think we should start anti-Zimpher rallies now at OSU considering she does have past ties to the university as well.

Reds4Life
06-10-2006, 11:20 PM
Celebration of Holbrook leaving getting crushed by this. I think we should start anti-Zimpher rallies now at OSU considering she does have past ties to the university as well.

Zimpher is also personal friends with Karen, so I'm sure she'll be pushing for her.

Caseyfan21
06-11-2006, 12:02 AM
Zimpher is also personal friends with Karen, so I'm sure she'll be pushing for her.


:help:

:barf:

:runawaycr

I just cannot decide which one is most appropriate. Holbrook and her obsession with research and not caring about undergrads may just look like the best president in history compared to Zimpher. I can see Tressel getting fired already.

cincinnati chili
06-11-2006, 12:46 AM
She is an academic that simply doesn't understand that athletics (notably: Men's Basketball and Football) are the tail that wags the dog at most major universities.



It does wag the dog at Ohio State. Not even close to true of "most major universities." There's only 128 or so Division I-A schools and most of them lose money on athletics.

Mario-Rijo
06-11-2006, 12:48 AM
Oh good lord no! Hey the article did say that Harvard was in need of a prez. how about you go there Zimp, perfect for an elitist! We (OSU & UC fans) could help Harvard find her couldn't we? :beerme:

WVRed
06-11-2006, 09:30 AM
Bye Bye Jim Tressel.

Chip R
06-11-2006, 10:38 AM
Bye Bye Jim Tressel.

I do not think Tressel would have a lot to worry about if this happened unless there was some scandal there. The guy who I think may have reason to worry is Thad Matta. Think about it. He is going to be bringing in players who more than likely will leave after a year or two. That does not help the graduation rates of the basketball team. Plus Thad is starting to become a hot name as far as college coaches are concerned. He is starting to get more attention and get into the limelight a little more. That kind of attention brings more scrutiny to a person and his program and it can also inflate their egos to the point where they get somewhat out of control. Some guys it never happens to but fame makes people behave in strange ways. To me Thad seems to have a case of wanderlust. Sort of a job hopper. Now you may think that tOSU is a plum job since it is in the Big 10 and he is getting the cream of the crop in as far as recruits go but there are bigger jobs out there than tOSU as far as basketball goes. What if Coach K retired? Or Jim Calhoun? Maybe he would like to coach the best players in the NBA. Besides, I do not think Zimpher is as bad to an athletic program as she is painted to be. I do not think she handled everything regarding Huggins the right way but she seems to let the football program alone. Of course if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there, does it make a sound? ;) I think Huggins personal problems with the DUI on top of some of the recent legal problems he had with players were the main problems. But I remember everyone predicting doom and gloom for UC this year and for the next several years and they came within a hair of making the NCAAs and might have been there if they had not lost those players to injuries. Then everyone thinks she will pick some dork who only cares about players graduating as the coach and they pick Mick Cronin. They may not ever be a dominant force in the Big East like they were in CUSA but anyone with half a brain knows that the Big East is a supremely better conference than CUSA was when UC was there.

CougarQuest
06-11-2006, 10:48 AM
Hopefully she'll take her choice to run the law program with her

Reds4Life
06-11-2006, 11:17 AM
I do not think Tressel would have a lot to worry about if this happened unless there was some scandal there. The guy who I think may have reason to worry is Thad Matta. Think about it. He is going to be bringing in players who more than likely will leave after a year or two. That does not help the graduation rates of the basketball team. Plus Thad is starting to become a hot name as far as college coaches are concerned. He is starting to get more attention and get into the limelight a little more. That kind of attention brings more scrutiny to a person and his program and it can also inflate their egos to the point where they get somewhat out of control. Some guys it never happens to but fame makes people behave in strange ways. To me Thad seems to have a case of wanderlust. Sort of a job hopper. Now you may think that tOSU is a plum job since it is in the Big 10 and he is getting the cream of the crop in as far as recruits go but there are bigger jobs out there than tOSU as far as basketball goes. What if Coach K retired? Or Jim Calhoun? Maybe he would like to coach the best players in the NBA. Besides, I do not think Zimpher is as bad to an athletic program as she is painted to be. I do not think she handled everything regarding Huggins the right way but she seems to let the football program alone. Of course if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there, does it make a sound? ;) I think Huggins personal problems with the DUI on top of some of the recent legal problems he had with players were the main problems. But I remember everyone predicting doom and gloom for UC this year and for the next several years and they came within a hair of making the NCAAs and might have been there if they had not lost those players to injuries. Then everyone thinks she will pick some dork who only cares about players graduating as the coach and they pick Mick Cronin. They may not ever be a dominant force in the Big East like they were in CUSA but anyone with half a brain knows that the Big East is a supremely better conference than CUSA was when UC was there.

One of the "Thad 5" got arrested last week for shooting someone in a back with a BB gun on campus, which is a felony.

Mick can get UC back to the Huggins level of winning, probably even beyond, but the question is when will Nancy stick her nose into the program again? If a player gets in trouble is she going to run him out of town too?

WVRed
06-11-2006, 01:38 PM
One of the "Thad 5" got arrested last week for shooting someone in a back with a BB gun on campus, which is a felony.

Mick can get UC back to the Huggins level of winning, probably even beyond, but the question is when will Nancy stick her nose into the program again? If a player gets in trouble is she going to run him out of town too?

That would be David Lighty.

I guess time will tell, but given some of the history involving boosters(Troy Smith and Maurice Clarett), I could see Nancy causing problems for Tressel.

paintmered
06-11-2006, 08:55 PM
I would do a happy dance if Nancy and her fishnet stockings (yes, it is as disturbing as it sounds) make their way up I-71 (or any place for that matter). No dean or tradition is safe when she's around.

And I grew up an OSU fan.

Caveat Emperor
06-12-2006, 01:30 AM
It does wag the dog at Ohio State. Not even close to true of "most major universities." There's only 128 or so Division I-A schools and most of them lose money on athletics.

Unless you have numbers I'm unaware of, I'd say that the majority of the "major" confrence (Big 10, ACC, SEC, Big 12, Pac 10) college programs bring in more money than they lose on the Mens Basketball and Mens Football programs. As an average, D1 football programs reported a $4.7 million profit in 2001. Naturally that number is skewed by teams like Notre Dame, which clears almost $30 million in profit on TV money alone -- but for most schools, football is the moneymaker. For basketball, the average D1 school turned a $1.7 million profit (again skewed by schools like UK, which brought in $7 million).

Now, once you get down to the "other half" of the D1 programs (MAC, C-USA, WAC, Sun Belt, Mountain West, etc.) then yeah, I'd imagine they're not exactly making a killing on their programs. Plus, virtually all universities bleed cash on other sports and most female sports (The average D1 women's basketball program loses $700,000 per year).

REDREAD
06-12-2006, 07:49 AM
Unless you have numbers I'm unaware of, I'd say that the majority of the "major" confrence (Big 10, ACC, SEC, Big 12, Pac 10) college programs bring in more money than they lose on the Mens Basketball and Mens Football programs.

I think you are right on basketball and football making money at most schools.
However, every other college sport (with a few exceptions) loses money. Sports like wrestling often don't even get enough full scholarships to fund the entire team. Often the players have to share scholarships. Now I'm not saying that's wrong or right, but I am just saying most of the colleges still lose money on sports overall (or at least when I was in school). Now that the colleges are getting a lot more money from the NCAA tourney and bowl games, maybe more schools turn a profit on sports.

Reds4Life
06-12-2006, 10:15 AM
Unless you have numbers I'm unaware of, I'd say that the majority of the "major" confrence (Big 10, ACC, SEC, Big 12, Pac 10) college programs bring in more money than they lose on the Mens Basketball and Mens Football programs. As an average, D1 football programs reported a $4.7 million profit in 2001. Naturally that number is skewed by teams like Notre Dame, which clears almost $30 million in profit on TV money alone -- but for most schools, football is the moneymaker. For basketball, the average D1 school turned a $1.7 million profit (again skewed by schools like UK, which brought in $7 million).

Now, once you get down to the "other half" of the D1 programs (MAC, C-USA, WAC, Sun Belt, Mountain West, etc.) then yeah, I'd imagine they're not exactly making a killing on their programs. Plus, virtually all universities bleed cash on other sports and most female sports (The average D1 women's basketball program loses $700,000 per year).

The Big East baksetball deal with ESPN, which is going to be announced before the season starts, is supposed to be huge money that's going to be divided between the schools. Rumor puts the total package between $85-$100 million. :eek:

cincinnati chili
06-13-2006, 12:44 AM
Hopefully she'll take her choice to run the law program with her

Coug: Pardon me if I've been out of it. Are you/were you in law school at UC or just an interested party? I remember you being in law enforcement.

Either way, what's the lowdown on the choice to run the program? I don't know anything about him/her.