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Newman4
06-17-2006, 12:04 AM
Put him in the pen as a Lefty Specialist.

Before tonight, LH hitters were batting .154 against him with .516 OPS.

LH v. Mercker .321/1.244:eek:

LH v. Hammond .275/.700

Claussen replaces Mercker and the Reds have a decent BP from the left side. ;)

Krusty
06-17-2006, 12:04 AM
Send him to a sports psychologist.

schroomytunes
06-17-2006, 12:05 AM
I think you will see Clasussen demoted to the pen after this start, and I think Mays will take his spot in the rotation for the time being.

CTA513
06-17-2006, 12:09 AM
Send him to a sports psychologist.

Have Ryan Wagner go with him.

The Baumer
06-17-2006, 12:28 AM
And he was so close to being dependable. Sad story.

KronoRed
06-17-2006, 01:02 AM
To the pen, it's not physical or mental, he just isn't that good.

Jr's Boy
06-17-2006, 02:00 AM
Trade him for Greinke.

Super_Barry11
06-17-2006, 02:03 AM
Send him to a sports psychologist.

I'll be ready for him in about 5 years. :D

IrishDavidKY
06-17-2006, 05:03 AM
It's time to put him in the pen as a lefty specialist or long reliever. With the out come of his last few starts I'm not sure if there is any real value for a trade.

By the way, first post of REDZONE :redbbcap:

Topcat
06-17-2006, 05:43 AM
It's time to put him in the pen as a lefty specialist or long reliever. With the out come of his last few starts I'm not sure if there is any real value for a trade.

By the way, first post of REDZONE :redbbcap:


In the pen the kid can pitch honestly but, his days as a starter seem to be done :(

oneupper
06-17-2006, 06:51 AM
It's time to put him in the pen as a lefty specialist or long reliever. With the out come of his last few starts I'm not sure if there is any real value for a trade.

By the way, first post of REDZONE :redbbcap:

Welcome! :beerme:

UK Reds Fan
06-17-2006, 07:12 AM
Who'd have thought...Milton this year is turning into Claussen of last year...while Classen of this year is turning into Milton of last year.:cry:

Mays is the obvious 5th starter...I guess I'd like to see what Germano can do. He has basicallly ben in AAA for 1.5 years know, would it be rushing him to give him 5 starts in Cincy? We were all surprised at how well Lizard has handled it, maybe Germano can give us a hopeful surprise as well. I just think we all know what Mays is going to give us...which ain't very good.

RedsBaron
06-17-2006, 07:18 AM
I agree that Claussen, for whom I had high hopes, should be banished from the starting rotation and sent to the bullpen.
What I would really like to see the Reds try is a four man rotation. There are studies indicating that a four man starting rotation is no harder on pitchers arms than a five man rotation, with the key being to carefully watch pitch counts in the games that are started.

RedLegSuperStar
06-17-2006, 07:23 AM
Claussen goes to the pen, keep him there until next season or if the Reds fall out of contention.

markymark69
06-17-2006, 07:58 AM
One of two things I would do with Claussen, both they involve giving up a jolt. First a question that I am not sure about. Does he have any options left? If so, demote him to AAA. If he doesn't, then I'm with most other people, put him in the bullpen.

I have also been a big supporter of Claussen's and was delighted when we traded for him a couple of years back, but he is far and away the weak link in this rotation. There is nobody more disappointed in Claussen than I am.

His problem, to me, and I'm not a pitching coach or anything, is that he nipples to much and then because he does not have a put away pitch, he is forced to throw a strike on a three-ball count and the hitters are ready to waylay it and most of time do just that. He needs to be more agressive early in the count and "freakin" pitch inside a little more!

It pretty easy to tell if Claussen is going to have a good night or bad night, if he is throwing his breaking stuff early for strikes then he'll have a good night, if he is not, then we'll see more of what we saw last night.

I agree with Marty's statement from last night, "I'll be struck dumb if he makes next start in New York."

If the Reds want to stay in the division/wild card hunt, his spot in the rotation must be addressed.

Mays is the obvious choice and based on the way he has pitched for the Reds, he should get a shot, if he doesn't work then go to Germano or Belisle. If they do not work, trade or pick up somebody else to find an answer.

Redus
06-17-2006, 08:32 AM
"His problem, to me, and I'm not a pitching coach or anything, is that he nipples to much "

Whaat? I hope he nibbles too much and not NIPPLES too much.

RedsBaron
06-17-2006, 09:09 AM
he nipples to much
Sometimes Claussen can be a real boob.

MartyFan
06-17-2006, 11:09 AM
I think you will see Clasussen demoted to the pen after this start, and I think Mays will take his spot in the rotation for the time being.

To think that going to a BP is a demotion in MLB these days is not right...teams are asking for and getting as much for BP than they are for starters...I believe that is the trend TeamClark was relaying on another post.

I agree with the move to put claussen in as a lefty specialist...DFA Merker...or change his role on the club...what that would be, I don't know.

Jpup
06-17-2006, 11:17 AM
To think that going to a BP is a demotion in MLB these days is not right...teams are asking for and getting as much for BP than they are for starters...I believe that is the trend TeamClark was relaying on another post.

I agree with the move to put claussen in as a lefty specialist...DFA Merker...or change his role on the club...what that would be, I don't know.

bullpen coach?

TeamBoone
06-17-2006, 12:14 PM
Claussen has no options left so demoting him is not the answer.

I'm not so sure he'd work well out of the pen either as he's notorious for having a bad first inning before settling down. That's certainly not what we want to see out of the bullpen. The Reds would just be shooting themselves in the foot... like they do every time already. You never know what you're going to get with most of the BP; do we really want to add another one of that ilk?

We all know he can do it because he's pitched some very good games... just not enough of them. Unfortunately, he has no confidence because he's so inconsistent. I don't know how you fix that. Work with Soto maybe? Of course, that can't be done now even if it was an option. .

I certainly don't think Mays is a viable option. Narron can say all he wants that Mays has pitched well for the Reds so far (I just read that comment this morning), but we all know it's BS. Okay, so he only gave up one run last night; the unspoken part of that JN comment is that it's the only run he gave up that was charged to him!

I agree with RedsBaron... 4-man rotation. There is no one decent enough to slip into the #5 slot without weakening the rotation badly and that is something the Reds can not afford to do. Earlier this year, they were actively considering the 4-man rotation but then things turned around and there was no more talk of it. I know Arroyo was not intimidated by it but never saw any comments from the others.

The only other alternative I can see is to bring up Dumatrait or Germano and give them a try (we already know Burns can't do it). If it doesn't work out, send 'em back and go with Harang, Arroyo, Milton, and Ramirez.

One thing I do know (or at least I think I do)? Mays is not the answer.... not unless JN has a magic wand. If he goes out there and gets the job done next week (and the weeks after), great! I'll sit down to a dinner of crow with some others around here; I'll even cook it... but I doubt any of us will ever have to worry about that.

Spitball
06-17-2006, 12:25 PM
I agree that Claussen, for whom I had high hopes, should be banished from the starting rotation and sent to the bullpen.
What I would really like to see the Reds try is a four man rotation. There are studies indicating that a four man starting rotation is no harder on pitchers arms than a five man rotation, with the key being to carefully watch pitch counts in the games that are started.

This might work but the pen needs to be upgraded. Perhaps, Claussen and a trade would do it.

Redsland
06-17-2006, 02:58 PM
Who's gonna trade for a guy with nipples like that?

:)

Matt700wlw
06-17-2006, 04:22 PM
Claussen is going to be checked out by Kremcheck this weekend, Claussen was complaining of some shoulder soreness.

Mays will pitch next week, REGARDLESS of Claussen's health status.

That is all for now.

markymark69
06-17-2006, 10:00 PM
Obviously I met nibbles, sorry guys...

Gallen5862
06-17-2006, 11:02 PM
Claussen is on the 15 day dl and Burns was called up.

danwl
06-18-2006, 01:36 AM
I think a few one on one sessions with Deno should bring him around. He knows more about pitching than any ten men, and he can heat his hands up like Mr. Miagi and cure shoulder stiffness as well.

Either that, or we should DL him

Big Daddy P
06-18-2006, 08:58 AM
Claussen is not a MLB pitcher. Maybe as a lefty bullpen specialist, but he's is NOT a starter in this league. I hope he never comes off the DL & fades into oblivion.

He has the dumbest look on his face like he has no clue usually. I cringe when he's scheduled to pitch, like I'm going for a colonoscopy!

Give some other bum a shot. Can we get back Rijo from the Nationals?