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RFS62
06-26-2006, 06:08 PM
"The greatest clutch hitter in Red Sox history just did it again...."


That was the announcers call as Big Papi just stroked one into the gap to win it in extra innings for the Red Sox.

Ooops, I forgot. No such thing as clutch.

Falls City Beer
06-26-2006, 06:10 PM
"The greatest clutch hitter in Red Sox history just did it again...."


That was the announcers call as Big Papi just stroked one into the gap to win it in extra innings for the Red Sox.

Ooops, I forgot. No such thing as clutch.

.927 OPS means he's got a bunch of clutch in that big ole belly.

A .700 OPS probably means a little less clutch is flowing through his veins.

pedro
06-26-2006, 06:11 PM
His OPS this year with RISP is exactly the same as his overall OPS (.921)

Maybe it isn't that he's clutch, it's that he's not a choker. ;)

Falls City Beer
06-26-2006, 06:13 PM
His OPS this year with RISP is exactly the same as his overall OPS (.921)

Maybe it isn't that he's clutch, it's that he's not a choker. ;)


You mean like Dunn's last year? :evil:

How do you go about "losing" clutch once you've shown you've got it?

pedro
06-26-2006, 06:14 PM
You mean like Dunn's last year? :evil:

How do you go about "losing" clutch once you've shown you've got it?

Grinding gears?

oregonred
06-26-2006, 06:14 PM
Phillies must be having AL East nightmares keeping them awake at night.

35-40 for the Phils. Which is good since they seemed like a legit threat for the NL WC spot. It looks like it may just come down to NL Central runner up/NL West runner-up -- first to claim 87 wins get the prize...

The Mets might be able to win that slumbering division with 75 victories.

RFS62
06-26-2006, 06:19 PM
I wonder how many game winning hits he has in the last inning?

VR
06-26-2006, 06:53 PM
http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=batting&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=clutch&direction=DESC&qual_filter=1&season_filter%5B%5D=2006&league_filter%5B%5D=2&pos_filter%5B%5D=All&Submit=Submit

Interesting reading on 'clutch'.....Dunn was top 10 last year, bottom 10 this year and 2004

westofyou
06-26-2006, 07:00 PM
http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=batting&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=clutch&direction=DESC&qual_filter=1&season_filter%5B%5D=2006&league_filter%5B%5D=2&pos_filter%5B%5D=All&Submit=Submit

Interesting reading on 'clutch'.....Dunn was top 10 last year, bottom 10 this year and 2004
31 July RBI's carried that.




That was the announcers call as Big Papi just stroked one into the gap to win it in extra innings for the Red Sox

Manual is nuts, 1st was open and a walk was called for... but alas he had to let the picther decide who he should face.

David Ortiz career RISP

.295/.387/.493

Yaz

.289/.405/.466

KronoRed
06-26-2006, 07:17 PM
Clutch?
http://www.mirafiori.com/ftp/ec/CLUTCH.gif

Reds Nd2
06-26-2006, 07:38 PM
Manual is nuts, 1st was open and a walk was called for... but alas he had to let the picther decide who he should face.

David Ortiz career RISP

.295/.387/.493

Yaz

.289/.405/.466

You can walk Ortiz for the priviledge of pitching to Manny, who is hitting
.345/.476/.678 the past three seasons with RISP. They had already dodged that particular bullet once in the 11th inning. Sometimes you just have to pick your poison.

westofyou
06-26-2006, 07:44 PM
You can walk Ortiz for the priviledge of pitching to Manny, who is hitting
.345/.476/.678 the past three seasons with RISP. They had already dodged that particular bullet once in the 11th inning. Sometimes you just have to pick your poison.
Yep, it's a gamble, I also just noticed first wasn't empty so that makes it a bigger gamble.

2 outs do you juice the bases to go with Right vs Righty or pitch and pray?

It's a tough decision.

Spitball
06-26-2006, 08:20 PM
2 outs do you juice the bases to go with Right vs Righty or pitch and pray?

It's a tough decision.

Ortiz versus right handers:
OBP=.402
Slug=.563
OPS=.964

Manny versus right handers:
OBP=.424
Slug=.653
OPS=1.076

Manny = Protection

Reds Nd2
06-26-2006, 08:23 PM
Yep, it's a gamble, I also just noticed first wasn't empty so that makes it a bigger gamble.

2 outs do you juice the bases to go with Right vs Righty or pitch and pray?

It's a tough decision.

They did have a base open (3rd) and lefty Rhodes in the pen. No idea if he was up and warm though. The Sox only needed one run to win, so loading the bases shouldn't have been a problem.

The Phillies had the lead and needed 3 outs going into the bottom of the 12th inning. They just came up one short today.

GAC
06-26-2006, 08:26 PM
It was the 10th regular-season, game-ending hit of Ortiz's career.

captainmorgan07
06-26-2006, 10:52 PM
he's been clutch since he's moved to beantown just ask the yankees he beat them numerous times in the 9th

VR
06-26-2006, 10:54 PM
It was the 10th regular-season, game-ending hit of Ortiz's career.

since '03

Cedric
06-26-2006, 10:57 PM
Manny has had the great oppurtunity to hit in Fenway and Jacobs, but I still can't think of a better pure hitter in our generation.

He is the key to Ortiz.

ochre
06-26-2006, 11:01 PM
I wonder how many game winning hits he has in the last inning?
No more than one per game...

Spitball
06-27-2006, 01:08 PM
Anyone want to see a photo history of his walkoff exploits?

Click on:
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/

...and then click on: "Ortiz a Walkoff Wonder"

cumberlandreds
06-27-2006, 01:30 PM
Clutch is like porn. You know it when you see it but you just can't find the words to define it. Ortiz is clutch and worth every penny the Red Sox are paying him. His being traded from the Twins could go down as one of the worst of all time,for the Twins that is.

VR
06-27-2006, 02:11 PM
Clutch is like porn. You know it when you see it but you just can't find the words to define it. Ortiz is clutch and worth every penny the Red Sox are paying him. His being traded from the Twins could go down as one of the worst of all time,for the Twins that is.

Except that he wasn't traded.....he was released, after two months of trying to trade him with no takers.

cumberlandreds
06-27-2006, 02:39 PM
Except that he wasn't traded.....he was released, after two months of trying to trade him with no takers.

Wow! That's even worse.

IslandRed
06-27-2006, 03:24 PM
I read a recent SI article on Ortiz, where his struggles with the Twins were explained as a result of their emphasis on situational hitting. When he got to the Red Sox and they unleashed him to simply hit the ball hard, he just exploded.

I'll stop short of drawing parallels to any specific players on our roster, except to say that it's rare for a hitter to radically alter his skill set at the big-league level. Attempting to take a hitter that's pretty good at what he does, and turn him into a different type of hitter, is probably doomed to failure. Fine-tuning is one thing, extreme makeovers another. If the Twins didn't like the type of hitter Ortiz was, they ought to have traded him for one they did like instead of banging at that square peg until they gave up.

Falls City Beer
06-27-2006, 03:25 PM
I'll stop short of drawing parallels to any specific players on our roster, except to say that it's rare for a hitter to radically alter his skill set at the big-league level.

No need to stop short when you're exactly right in your parallel. :)

What's with the false modesty?

KronoRed
06-27-2006, 03:27 PM
If the Twins didn't like the type of hitter Ortiz was, they ought to have traded him for one they did like instead of banging at that square peg until they gave up.
Hmm...does a former Twin run a certain team we all enjoy? :evil:

Falls City Beer
06-27-2006, 03:29 PM
Hmm...does a former Twin run a certain team we all enjoy? :evil:

Yep. You got to believe Dunn's going to be traded for .50 on the dollar sooner rather than later. Makes you wonder if the three year deal wasn't an effort to keep him affordable for a deadline deal.

IslandRed
06-27-2006, 04:32 PM
Hmm...does a former Twin run a certain team we all enjoy? :evil:

Yeah. Whether Krivsky had anything to do with the situation, I don't know. I doubt it, though. I tend to lay that sort of thing at the field manager's feet.

vaticanplum
06-28-2006, 05:09 PM
Oh yeah baby!!!

And Mr. Clutchless A-Rod answers with his own two-run bomb in the bottom of the twelfth to beat the Braves!! Whoo-hooo!!!!

Chip R
06-28-2006, 06:25 PM
Oh yeah baby!!!

And Mr. Clutchless A-Rod answers with his own two-run bomb in the bottom of the twelfth to beat the Braves!! Whoo-hooo!!!!

Was it a soft home run? ;)

KronoRed
06-29-2006, 01:13 AM
Yeah. Whether Krivsky had anything to do with the situation, I don't know. I doubt it, though. I tend to lay that sort of thing at the field manager's feet.
Now we have 3 more years to find out ;)