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NCRed
06-30-2006, 02:38 PM
Just posted by Marc !

Javy Pornstache
06-30-2006, 02:38 PM
Shackelford recalled.

BRM
06-30-2006, 02:42 PM
It's a good move as long as Shackelford is used as a LOOGY.

Chip R
06-30-2006, 02:42 PM
And there was much rejoicing.

edabbs44
06-30-2006, 02:42 PM
Phew.

reds44
06-30-2006, 02:44 PM
Hooray beer!
:beerme: :beerme:


It's a good move as long as Shackelford is used as a LOOGY.
Exactly use him wisely Narron.

nineworldseries
06-30-2006, 02:47 PM
YAY !!:D

Please God, let Weathers be next...

registerthis
06-30-2006, 02:50 PM
I appreciate the fact that this franchise is not afraid to eat the contract of a particularly atrocious player. It's a shame the particularly atrocious player was ever on the team to begin with, but the least you can do is rid yourself of him before he can do any further damage.

savafan
06-30-2006, 02:51 PM
About time, now to move on to the rest of the "over the hill" gang.

MississippiRed
06-30-2006, 02:53 PM
It's a good move as long as Shackelford is used as a LOOGY.

I've seen LOOGY before, and I think I know it means to pitch against lefthanders only, but what do the letters stand for?

Javy Pornstache
06-30-2006, 02:55 PM
I've seen LOOGY before, and I think I know it means to pitch against lefthanders only, but what do the letters stand for?

Lefty Only Out GuY. I think. :D

pedro
06-30-2006, 02:55 PM
Lefty One Out GuY - a left handed reliever specializing in getting one out, often in game critical situations

CTA513
06-30-2006, 02:56 PM
White, Hammond... 2 down, 2 more to go.

:evil:

Razor Shines
06-30-2006, 03:00 PM
I feel no joy in this one. As much as he needed to go, I always liked Chris Hammond and hoped he would turn it around. It was the right move though. And I agree with what almost everyone has said about Shack.

dabvu2498
06-30-2006, 03:01 PM
TGIF

Now he can apply for his AARP card.

redsupport
06-30-2006, 03:03 PM
now that he is on the retired list, he can join previous stalwarts like Brad Pennington

smith288
06-30-2006, 03:04 PM
Hammond was seen this morning signing up for his Golden Buckeye card for the great discounts afforded to senior citizens.

oneupper
06-30-2006, 03:06 PM
I appreciate the fact that this franchise is not afraid to eat the contract of a particularly atrocious player. It's a shame the particularly atrocious player was ever on the team to begin with, but the least you can do is rid yourself of him before he can do any further damage.

You won't have to eat much. This is Chris Hammond, not Danny Graves and our GM is Wayne Krivsky, not Dan O'Brien.
You may be able to swing a trade (remember Dave Williams?), or somebody could pluck him off waivers (remember Rick White?).

registerthis
06-30-2006, 03:10 PM
You won't have to eat much. This is Chris Hammond, not Danny Graves and our GM is Wayne Krivsky, not Dan O'Brien.
You may be able to swing a trade (remember Dave Williams?), or somebody could pluck him off waivers (remember Rick White?).

Oh sure, I know it's not Junior's contract or anything. But with Womack, White and now Hammond, it's refreshign that Team krivsky is, to some extent, willing to put lack of performance ahead of guaranteed salary considerations.

oneupper
06-30-2006, 03:32 PM
Oh sure, I know it's not Junior's contract or anything. But with Womack, White and now Hammond, it's refreshign that Team krivsky is, to some extent, willing to put lack of performance ahead of guaranteed salary considerations.

Absolutely. And although, I'm sure many would have preferred he pull the trigger earlier, I think all the parties (except Womack...who had a track record) were given an adequate chance to prove their worth or lack thereof.

Womack, Williams, White and Hammond...

jimbo
06-30-2006, 03:32 PM
I don't think Shackleford is much better, but I agree with the decision. Something had to be done, but if Hammond had to go then I think Weathers should have also. Weathers has been just as bad as Hammond lately if not worse.

dabvu2498
06-30-2006, 03:38 PM
I don't think Shackleford is much better, but I agree with the decision. Something had to be done, but if Hammond had to go then I think Weathers should have also. Weathers has been just as bad as Hammond lately if not worse.
Good call. Did anyone hear the stat the other night about the number of "first hitters faced" that Weathers has allowed to reach? My dad said it was quoted on the radio broadcast but he missed the actual numbers.

Playadlc
06-30-2006, 03:39 PM
Beer me!

MartyFan
06-30-2006, 03:47 PM
I just read an article at the Reds MLB.com site and it said that Weathers is still confident...I about fell out of my chair laughing when I read the following quote from weathers in the article.

"None of that has really ever bothered me," Weathers said. "I've been booed out of Yankee Stadium."

He was talking about being booed pretty loudly in GABP...if you are going to be booed out of a ballpark it may as well be being booed out of the BEST in the game, right!?!?!

Stewie
06-30-2006, 03:47 PM
Pat Gillick is no doubt thrilled by this news.

IslandRed
06-30-2006, 03:57 PM
Womack, Williams, White and Hammond...

Anyone know the record for DFAs by one team in a season? We might be on a historic pace here. :help:

UK Reds Fan
06-30-2006, 03:58 PM
Shack has a .143 BAA and .488 OPS vs. Lefties.
.444 BAA and 1.49 OPS vs. Righties

If used correctly against Lefties only, this is a much better upgrade than Hammond was giving us. Also, Standridge/Belisle should give us more from right side than White/Weathers have given us in first half. Any trade that can net us another arm in pen should give us the ammo to be tough to beat for that WC spot if not Central title.

I hate the defeatist attitude that we have no better/other options in the pen than the guys we've been running out there. There is some hope for this pen, we just need some younger/unkown guys to step up and pitch with confidence and our manager to put them in situations to taste success.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2006, 04:06 PM
Hooray beer!
:beerme: :beerme:





Are you old enough? :nono: :evil:

Matt700wlw
06-30-2006, 04:07 PM
On deck...David Weathers.

I don't think he's going to be here much longer.

Kradokk
06-30-2006, 04:18 PM
There goes the last link to a Reds championship team. ;)

dfs
06-30-2006, 04:21 PM
Well, Hatcher is still in uniform.

Krusty
06-30-2006, 05:18 PM
Anybody here thinks that Belisle might be the answer to Weathers as the setup man for Coffey?

BuckeyeRedleg
06-30-2006, 05:25 PM
Hammond's a DanO guy, right?

jimbo
06-30-2006, 05:25 PM
Anybody here thinks that Belisle might be the answer to Weathers as the setup man for Coffey?

I do, especially after the way he looked the other night. I say the sooner the better.

Krusty
06-30-2006, 05:29 PM
I also think if LHP Phil Dumatrait has a couple of more solid starts at Louisville, he could be recalled to be used in the bullpen, especially if Mercker continues to struggle.

Krusty
06-30-2006, 05:31 PM
Hammond's a DanO guy, right?

It is a wonder how Dan O'Brien is an employee for the Milwaukee Brewers? Does the guy know talent? Judging by his acquisitions in his short stint as the Reds GM, you have to wonder how this guy still has a job in baseball.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-30-2006, 05:50 PM
I'm thinking that QM is the next to be DFA'd (if not Weathers), but QM was a WK guy, right?

So far, I think WK has DFA'd three of DanO's off-season acquisitions:

-Womack
-Williams
-Hammond

Krusty
06-30-2006, 06:15 PM
Only problem with designating McCracken for assignment is that it leaves you short in reserve outfielders. If Freel is starting in CF or taking over defensively for Dunn in LF, and one of the outfielders gets hurt it could create some problems. And I doubt Krivsky wants to recall Denorfia to spend the majority of his time on the bench.

Big Daddy P
06-30-2006, 06:25 PM
Milton, Claussen, Wilson... Can we add these useless blobs of flesh? Please?

Wayne, don't make me beg...

tomred
06-30-2006, 06:31 PM
I think it was his time but remember he did have a good month of May

BuckeyeRedleg
06-30-2006, 06:31 PM
Dunn
Kearns
Griffey
Freel

No need for anymore OF'ers.

If you have an emergency for one night, stick anyone with a pulse in LF and then the next day you call up Denorfia. Hell, Larue could play out there if an emergency situation (injury, 20 inning game, etc.) comes up.

The advantage Freel gives us with his versatility is wasted when you clog up the roster with a worthless 5th OF'er (QM).

It is downright pathetic that this guy is collecting a paycheck to do what he does (nothing).

dfs
06-30-2006, 06:41 PM
And I doubt Krivsky wants to recall Denorfia to spend the majority of his time on the bench.
Why not? The future is NOW for Denorfia. He's not a young prospect who has a bunch of development left in him. He's 25 years old and he's likely NEVER going to be a starting outfielder on a good team. That train left the station already.

Krusty
06-30-2006, 06:55 PM
Why not? The future is NOW for Denorfia. He's not a young prospect who has a bunch of development left in him. He's 25 years old and he's likely NEVER going to be a starting outfielder on a good team. That train left the station already.

I honestly think Denorfia and Olmedo will be trade bait for the Reds come the July trading deadline.

jnwohio
06-30-2006, 07:08 PM
I think Weathers probably gets a soft landing trip to the DL if he is willing to take it. At his age, one does not recover from "severe tendonitis" in 5 or 6 days like he supposedly did. So he was likely taking one for the team until Belisle got back; and, they will probably return the favor by easing him onto the DL.

Early on he was pitching pretty good. Who knows; with several weeks rest on the DL, he might just be able to come back and give them a positive bump at some point in the second half.

GOREDSGO32
06-30-2006, 07:10 PM
Bye bye Hammond. Let the pink slip train continue.

StillFunkyB
06-30-2006, 07:25 PM
Thank you.

Could have done this a bit sooner, ya think?

Matt700wlw
06-30-2006, 07:32 PM
Narron on the pregame show (which is coming up) kind of called out the bullpen. He basically says they have to pitch well. If they don't and they find themselves getting the boot, it's nobody's fault but their own.

He also said last night almost made him vomit.

reds44
06-30-2006, 07:34 PM
Narron on the pregame show (which is coming up) kind of called out the bullpen. He basically says they have to pitch well. If they don't and they find themselves getting the boot, it's nobody's fault but their own.

He also said last night almost made him vomit.
:clap:

:notworthy

Matt700wlw
06-30-2006, 07:34 PM
That's the first time I've really heard him not be so PC.

I think he's losing patience. Lord knows we all have.

2001MUgrad
06-30-2006, 07:45 PM
I personally think they should get rid of Merker and/or Weathers before Hammond. No doubt they all should be gone, but Hammond had been pitching relatively well until his last 2 outtings. Merker badly lacks on out pitch. He'll run the count 0-2 on someone and they will foul off 5 pitches before getting a hit. And Weathers, well, I'm just tired of his 87MPH fast ball.

Hap
06-30-2006, 07:47 PM
Chris Hammond got a hold in the third game against KC, even though he had three earned runs in one-third of an inning.

MrCinatit
06-30-2006, 07:54 PM
Though I am sure Hammond is a nice guy, I hope his backside is not injured when the door strikes him.

Doc. Scott
06-30-2006, 07:54 PM
Heard the interview. He didn't directly tie the vomit to the bullpen per se, but he did say that losing the lead gave him an "empty feeling".

That's still more direct than what he's said in the past, true. The second segment was a little stronger- he said that if somebody's not doing the job, they're gone and they don't have anyone to blame but themselves.

Mercker's not going anywhere for a while at least- he's making 2.5 times what Hammond was.

LawFive
06-30-2006, 08:00 PM
If you have an emergency for one night, stick anyone with a pulse in LF and then the next day you call up Denorfia. Hell, Larue could play out there if an emergency situation (injury, 20 inning game, etc.) comes up.




Anyone remember the time Knight ran out of bodies during a 9th inning comeback, and had to send Joe Oliver to play LF in the 10th? Oliver had a fly hit his way, the whole way down the crowd was chanting "Joe! Joe! Joe!"

Doc. Scott
06-30-2006, 08:02 PM
LaRue could play the outfield on an emergency basis. He was drafted as an outfielder.

KoryMac5
06-30-2006, 09:03 PM
Do we have Vegas odds on Mercker and Weathers yet as next to go.

redsfanmia
06-30-2006, 09:28 PM
Mercker's not going anywhere for a while at least- he's making 2.5 times what Hammond was.[/QUOTE]


You beat me to it, White and Hammond didnt make alot so it makes it easier to cut them and eat the contract. Lower paid guys are easier to make examples of see Hancock, Josh.

Team Clark
06-30-2006, 10:02 PM
That's the first time I've really heard him not be so PC.

I think he's losing patience. Lord knows we all have.

Amazing what an extension will do for a guy's confidence.

steig
06-30-2006, 10:21 PM
Let's hope they keep cleaning house in the bullpen but this is a good move. :beerme:

saboforthird
07-01-2006, 02:25 AM
I think it's great that the Reds are doing what they need to do improve the things they need to improve in order to win down the road (this season and on). However, I expected a bit more from Reds fans in the way this is all celebrated than I should have, I guess. :rolleyes:

max venable
07-01-2006, 09:52 AM
LaRue could play the outfield on an emergency basis. He was drafted as an outfielder.
Actually, IIRC, I've seen J-La play the outfield for the Reds already. Anybody else remember that?