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savafan
06-30-2006, 04:34 PM
They were talking about this on the Dan Patrick show yesterday, and mentioned the following as the best #1 and #2 starter combos this season.

Detroit Tigers

Kenny Rogers


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 16 104.2 94 43 12 25 59 10 3 0 96.7 1.14 .243 3.44

Justin Verlander


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 16 103.2 94 38 11 31 65 10 4 0 98.3 1.21 .248 3.13

Boston Red Sox

Josh Beckett


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 16 97.0 83 55 20 31 82 10 3 0 97.8 1.18 .226 4.64

Curt Schilling


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 17 114.1 110 45 15 14 102 10 2 0 107.2 1.08 .253 3.54

Minnesota Twins

Francisco Liriano


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 20 73.1 56 18 5 19 82 8 1 1 91.1 1.02 .212 2.21

Johan Santana


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 17 118.1 94 36 12 20 124 9 4 0 102.8 0.96 .216 2.59

New York Mets

Tom Glavine


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 17 107.2 101 42 15 33 75 11 2 0 102.0 1.24 .251 3.34

Pedro Martinez


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 16 101.2 74 44 14 28 111 7 4 0 98.5 1.00 .202 3.45


Those were the top #1 and #2s named on the Dan Patrick show. I however, think that there is another big #1 and #2 starting pitcher combo that has been huge for their team this year, and their numbers compare very evenly with the above named combos (with the exception of the Twins, but they were stupid and waited too long to put Liriano in the rotation).

Cincinnati Reds

Bronson Arroyo


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 17 118.2 107 38 12 26 89 9 4 0 109.9 1.12 .239 2.58

Aaron Harang


SPLIT G IP H R HR BB SO W L Sv P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 17 112.1 113 52 11 28 109 9 5 0 107.8 1.26 .267 3.45

The Reds have one of the five best top of the rotation #1 and #2 combos this year, yet no mention of them in the conversation. These two could be the cornerstone of this starting rotation for years, and make it a very good rotation. I think Arroyo and Harang have been the difference on this team between contender and cellar dweller this year. How huge they've been to this team's success is easy to see, yet they still get no love in the media. Shame.

Matt700wlw
06-30-2006, 04:36 PM
It still looks weird seeing the Reds, pitching, top, and best in the same sentence.

ochre
06-30-2006, 04:42 PM
it's great, but as good as the top has been, the middle and bottom will jump up and bite you regularly.

CTA513
06-30-2006, 04:46 PM
Santana and Liriano... :eek:

BuckeyeRedleg
06-30-2006, 04:54 PM
You gotta love 109 K's in 112 IP for Harang.

Stud.

vaticanplum
06-30-2006, 05:13 PM
Santana and Liriano... :eek:

They are scary good, aren't they?

BoilerBC11
06-30-2006, 06:11 PM
And the best thing about this, is that our GM had something to do with finding them...lets just hope he can continue this trend for us...

OnBaseMachine
06-30-2006, 06:18 PM
Santana and Liriano.

Liriano will be the best pitcher in baseball for the next decade.

MWM
06-30-2006, 06:26 PM
Wow!. Beckett has a WHIP of 1.18, but an ERA of 4.64. Don't see that very often.

OnBaseMachine
06-30-2006, 06:29 PM
Wow!. Beckett has a WHIP of 1.18, but an ERA of 4.64. Don't see that very often.

The more shocking stat to me was the 20 HR allowed in 97 innings.

Redhook
06-30-2006, 06:39 PM
Santana and Liriano.

Liriano will be the best pitcher in baseball for the next decade.

If he's not the best, he'll probably be second best behind Santana. What a combo!

blumj
07-02-2006, 09:03 AM
The more shocking stat to me was the 20 HR allowed in 97 innings.
How else do you get that ERA from that WHIP, right?