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GriffeyFan
07-02-2006, 01:30 PM
Ok, maybe not the worst ever since a couple of guys have been thrown overboard, but with over half of the bullpen with an ERA over 5, you're definitely a candidate for the award.

Now, Shakelford's only thrown 10.1 innings, but Merker, Yan and Weathers don't have that excuse. I think the Reds need to acquire as many quality bullpen arms as possible in the next month. I think we need at least 2 or 3.

Brian Shackelford - 8.71
Kent Mercker - 6.16
Esteban Yan - 5.91
David Weathers - 5.25
Matt Belisle - 4.35
Todd Coffey - 2.55
Jason Standridge - 2.08

I hope Joe Mays is the next guy thrown overboard. He's allowed 45 runs in 41.2 innings.

BenHayes
07-02-2006, 05:30 PM
Easily the worst in the past fifty years of cincy baseball

RedLegSuperStar
07-02-2006, 06:15 PM
I remember when we had one of the best pens.. had Sullivan, Williamson, Villone, White, dare I say it but Graves

deltachi8
07-02-2006, 06:43 PM
like there is anyway to know that

Worst ever? I dunno if thats true. Not good enough for a playoff run? I do know that.

nineworldseries
07-02-2006, 07:01 PM
Come on now, I'm sure there have been worse bullpens...

in Wisconsin Tee-Ball leagues.

:thumbdown:

Captain Buckeye
07-02-2006, 07:43 PM
All I know is I sat thru 3 games in 3 days(same amount as last 2 seasons total) and I have had enough watching that crap. Should have been swept.....thank God for Fri.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111:bang:

tsj017
07-02-2006, 07:50 PM
Our BP is BS.

And that's probably going to be the story of the 2006 Reds.

:thumbdown

Razor Shines
07-02-2006, 09:52 PM
Ok, maybe not the worst ever since a couple of guys have been thrown overboard, but with over half of the bullpen with an ERA over 5, you're definitely a candidate for the award.

Now, Shakelford's only thrown 10.1 innings, but Merker, Yan and Weathers don't have that excuse. I think the Reds need to acquire as many quality bullpen arms as possible in the next month. I think we need at least 2 or 3.

Brian Shackelford - 8.71
Kent Mercker - 6.16
Esteban Yan - 5.91
David Weathers - 5.25
Matt Belisle - 4.35
Todd Coffey - 2.55
Jason Standridge - 2.08

I hope Joe Mays is the next guy thrown overboard. He's allowed 45 runs in 41.2 innings.

I was thinking if we got one guy with a rubber arm that we could run out there 4 or 5 times a week, and was effective, would that be enough? I mean it's not ideal but I think it might be enough to hold on to the wild card. Does this guy exist though? Probably not for us.

Redhook
07-02-2006, 10:12 PM
I remember when we had one of the best pens.. had Sullivan, Williamson, Villone, White, dare I say it but Graves

Since you were only 7 in 1990, you probably don't remember too much about the "real" Nasty Boys. They were phenomenal....Dibble, Myers, Charlton. All outstanding. They put the staff you have listed above to shame. That staff you have listed above, 1999 I believe, was very good and I'm sure all of us would absolutely love to have that bullpen right now.

LawFive
07-03-2006, 11:19 AM
Take a look at some 2003 boxscores if you haven't eaten yet. Any junior high kid with two arms could've pitched.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=200309230CN5

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=200309180PIT

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=200307100HOU

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/roster.php?y=2003&t=CN5

ED44
07-03-2006, 11:28 AM
like there is anyway to know that

Worst ever? I dunno if thats true. Not good enough for a playoff run? I do know that.

Nice Napolean reference...pretty good laugh with that one.

Anyway, if we are going to mke a push for the playoffs, we need HELP.

Chip R
07-03-2006, 08:47 PM
Last year the bullpen was pretty sucky. Remember the magic that was Ben Weber?

RedsBaron
07-04-2006, 07:45 AM
For most of my lifetime, one thing a Reds fan could count on was a quality bullpen......Henry, Brosnan, McCool, Ellis, Nottebart, Abernathy, Granger, Carroll, Hall, Borbon, Eastwick, McEnaney, Hume, Bair, Franco, Myers, Dibble, Charlton, Brantley, Shaw, Williamson, Graves....on and on...the Reds might come up short in starting pitching, but they had a bullpen most seasons. I am absolutely stunned by the ineptitude of the current Reds relief corps.

redsupport
07-04-2006, 08:26 AM
do you think Ben Hayes would be the middle man or the closer if he were time warped and inserted into this august group?

BenHayes
07-04-2006, 01:22 PM
Thanks REDS BARON for the great names from yesteryear. The 2006 version of Cincy's pen doesn't have anyone even close to the ones mentioned.

Krusty
07-05-2006, 08:51 AM
We have Dan O'Brien to thank for the current cast of characters.

crazybob60
07-05-2006, 11:14 AM
We need to get Anaheim on the horn and really work out a deal for Scot Shields although I know that I am dreaming here!

westofyou
07-05-2006, 12:14 PM
1993, Bullpen Hell

Matt700wlw
07-05-2006, 12:45 PM
If this team had a bullpen, they'd be 4 or 5 games on the Cardinals...easily.

tsj017
07-05-2006, 01:18 PM
If this team had a bullpen, they'd be 4 or 5 games on the Cardinals...easily.

Yep.

That's the most frustrating thing about it. The Cards have all but invited us to open a bit of a lead on 'em, but we just can't do it.

redsupport
07-05-2006, 04:06 PM
In 1993 the Reds were blessed with abundant pitching pheenoms and prospects, why the great duo of Mike Anderson and Ross Powell were there to complement the tricky deliveries of Chris Bushing. And for the coup de gras, Larry leubbers and Dwayne Henry were in attendance to sprinkle their unique form of pyromania to the conflagration