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nc redsfan
07-02-2006, 10:12 PM
I'll probably get slammed for this, but this is just my opinion. I hear people complaining about only having Bronson in the All-Star Game. I agree, in my opinion B. Phillips, Griffey, Coffey, and Ross all had shots at making it. I just don't believe we can blame it all on Garner that they wern't selected. We as fans had the ability to vote them in, and besides Griffey didn't even come close. I know we would have had to hand write in Phillips or Ross, but come on people the ballot had that option. I know people are going to say New York has a bigger market, but with the internet available to vote on that theory goes out the window. I look at this forum and see people from all over the united states, so it's not just up to the people in Great American Ballpark to vote. Since I'm in such a negative mood, I don't understand how a team can be 1 game back in their division and can't sell out a ballgame!! I live in North Carolina so I can't go, but the people in Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky don't have no excuse. The fans complain about this team needing to play with purpose etc.., well the fans need to do there part too.

oneupper
07-02-2006, 10:18 PM
Who's complaining? I for one, don't care about the ASG.
One guy, two guys...no difference.
Probably saves the team a bonus or two.

Razor Shines
07-02-2006, 10:22 PM
Why can't you go? Are people from NC not allowed in the park? I did not know this.

Redmachine2003
07-02-2006, 10:26 PM
I have no problem with just one going since everytime the Reds send someone the have a bad second half of the season or end up hurt the second half. Just seem to be jinked that way for the Reds.

nc redsfan
07-02-2006, 10:28 PM
I'm sure I can go if I had the time to take a 12 hour ride to get there, I use to live in Noblesville, so I know it's only a couple of hours for you. I can't make the 12 hour trip so I've got the extra innings package so I can root my Reds on as much as possible. Believe me, ask my wife, that's about everytime they're on.

Razor Shines
07-02-2006, 10:34 PM
I'm sure I can go if I had the time to take a 12 hour ride to get there, I use to live in Noblesville, so I know it's only a couple of hours for you. I can't make the 12 hour trip so I've got the extra innings package so I can root my Reds on as much as possible. Believe me, ask my wife, that's about everytime they're on.
Well how much of a fan are you if you're not willing to spend 24 hrs. in the car?


I was just kidding with you. And for the record I have been a 3 times this year, and plan to go several more times. As for the ASG, I would have liked to see more, but I don't think I am going to send any letters to Phil Garner.

nc redsfan
07-02-2006, 10:37 PM
Glad you were kidding, but I agree, sending letters to Phil Garner won't help much, but I would like to see us put a pounding on Houston everytime we play them from here on out, maybe Phillips and Ross can wave at Garner as they round the bases. GO REDS!!!!

dougdirt
07-02-2006, 10:39 PM
Glad you were kidding, but I agree, sending letters to Phil Garner won't help much, but I would like to see us put a pounding on Houston everytime we play them from here on out, maybe Phillips and Ross can wave at Garner as they round the bases. GO REDS!!!!
Well I hope we kill them, but dont wave at Garner....that will get them beaned, and beaned hard. I would rather have our players without huge knots on them.

nineworldseries
07-02-2006, 10:43 PM
Hey I voted 50 times online for Freel, Griffey and Phillips (darn, forgot to write in Ross too) and ~10 times at the ballpark. I know, it's not enough!! :(

Redhook
07-02-2006, 11:25 PM
I'm a little surprised we didn't atleast get one more guy in this year.

Griffey - somewhat deserving but missed a month. And I'm glad he didn't make it. He needs the time off.
Ross - Great first half, but not enough games.
Harang - If Arroyo wasn't here, he may have made it.
Phillips - I really believe he should be on the team. He's batting way over .300, +40 rbis and runs, perfect on stolen bases. What more can a guy do? He's been our catalyst and if he was on the ballot I think he would've been pretty close to making it.

Hopefully, the guys that didn't make will hold a little grudge and it will give them a little extra incentive going into the second half.

captainmorgan07
07-02-2006, 11:40 PM
uggla was alil nicked up maybe there's still hope for bp

KoryMac5
07-03-2006, 12:09 AM
The All Star game no longer holds the prestige it once had 15-20 yrs ago. It would have been great to have a few more of the guys make it but if I'm managing this team I don't care about the All Star game I care about the playoffs.

dman
07-03-2006, 12:32 AM
I'm with those who feel that the ASG isn't what it used to be. It used to be a showcase for the best in each league. Now it has grown to be nothing more than an over-hyped dog and pony show for the talking heads to "ooh and ahh" about.

Phhhl
07-03-2006, 01:04 AM
The three days of the All Star break are the most agonizingly long of the entire season. Players don't seem to care about it anymore, so why should I? Too many modern players don't seem to understand that it is an honor to be selected, and the arrogance of that leaves me cold. While watching this game, I usually find myself wishing the Reds were just playing a regular game on the schedule that night instead. When I was a young, impressionable kid I used to get a thrill from seeing the Reds line up for an All Star game appearance, but now I could care less if the game were not played at all.

Razor Shines
07-03-2006, 01:08 AM
The three days of the All Star break are the most agonizingly long of the entire season. Players don't seem to care about it anymore, so why should I? Too many modern players don't seem to understand that it is an honor to be selected, and the arrogance of that leaves me cold. While watching this game, I usually find myself wishing the Reds were just playing a regular game on the schedule that night instead. When I was a young, impressionable kid I used to get a thrill from seeing the Reds line up for an All Star game appearance, but now I could care less if the game were not played at all.
I feel the same way. I remember how big a deal the ASG used to be to me, it was almost the high point of the season, now I don't know why.

Caveat Emperor
07-03-2006, 01:37 AM
Frankly, I could care less whether any Reds make the all star team or not. To me, it's an exhibition game that's a waste of everyone's collective time. I've never seen the fascination with the All Star game (or, sub in "Pro Bowl" or "NBA All Star" etc.) that some people have.

I'd rather Reds players (especially players like Arroyo and Harang) stay at home where there's no chance of an injury occuring. Rest up for the second half of the season and let other people go out there and risk tearing a ligament or getting injured on some freak occurence.

Razor Shines
07-03-2006, 01:43 AM
Frankly, I could care less whether any Reds make the all star team or not. To me, it's an exhibition game that's a waste of everyone's collective time. I've never seen the fascination with the All Star game (or, sub in "Pro Bowl" or "NBA All Star" etc.) that some people have.

I'd rather Reds players (especially players like Arroyo and Harang) stay at home where there's no chance of an injury occuring. Rest up for the second half of the season and let other people go out there and risk tearing a ligament or getting injured on some freak occurence.
You mean freak, like someone running over the catcher at home plate?

Jpup
07-03-2006, 02:10 AM
Really, the only thing that I hate about it is that Adam Dunn doesn't get to win the home run derby. That would be great to watch.

Hap
07-03-2006, 08:44 AM
You mean freak, like someone running over the catcher at home plate?

According to Bill James, Rose was also injured in the collision, and subsequently went onto the disabled list. Ray Fosse tried to play through the pain and caused his injury to get worse.


EDIT...
Pete did not go onto the DL, but did miss six games.

oneupper
07-03-2006, 08:46 AM
According to Bill James, Rose was also injured in the collision, and subsequently went onto the disabled list. Ray Fosse tried to play through the pain and caused his injury to get worse.

The didn't have MRI back then...:(

CySeymour
07-03-2006, 10:16 AM
There are always players backing out of the game for one reason or the other, so it's still possible for a Red to get named.

KoryMac5
07-03-2006, 01:05 PM
Other deserving candidates like second baseman Brandon Phillips and catcher David Ross did not make the club as reserves. Neither Ross nor Phillips ascended into starting spots for the Reds until later in the season, which might have hurt their chances.




Complete All-Star Game coverage >After he hit a pair of long balls in Sunday's Reds loss to Cleveland, Ross leads all NL catchers with 12 home runs season. That's despite only 110 at-bats in 41 games and not becoming a regular until early June.

Atlanta's Brian McCann entered Sunday with a .354 average in 58 games and was the players' selection as a reserve catcher. The Mets' Paul Lo Duca was elected by fans.

"I'm a career .200 hitter, so I'm not really expecting the All-Star Game or anything like that," Ross said. "I want to contribute here and help us win. I'd rather be in the playoffs than make any All-Star Game."

Phillips, who was acquired from Cleveland on April 7, was beaten out by Florida's Dan Uggla, who was named by the players. Uggla is batting .307 and his 13 homers were second only to elected starter Chase Utley's 15 among NL second basemen. Phillips and Uggla both have 44 RBIs.

"At the beginning of the season, I was at home chilling," said Phillips, who was designated for assignment before his trade to Cincinnati. "I knew I wasn't going to make the All-Star team. I'm just worried about getting the Reds into the postseason. We've got a lot of players on this team that should have made it. I'm glad Bronson made it. He's having a good season so far."
From MLB.com


It looks like both Ross and Phillips have the right idea get the Reds to the post season

tripleaaaron
07-03-2006, 03:44 PM
Glad you were kidding, but I agree, sending letters to Phil Garner won't help much, but I would like to see us put a pounding on Houston everytime we play them from here on out, maybe Phillips and Ross can wave at Garner as they round the bases. GO REDS!!!!

I agree, I hope we destroy them each time as well, and although I am distraught over how Pittsburg has 2 reps, how did freddy sanchez possibly get in, At least Garner was honest with his own teams assesment and only chose 1 rep from the national league champions squad, that is almost as much of a travesty as us only having 1 rep.

MaineRed
07-03-2006, 04:08 PM
By the time the All Star game rolls around, Phillips will have a roster spot. Just my gut feeling.

The Reds offense should have a rep, that is for sure.

Congrats to Bronson. Lets hope he gets the start.

gm
07-03-2006, 08:20 PM
Cincy fans are to blame? Who are you, John Allen?;)

Big Daddy P
07-03-2006, 08:34 PM
The only guy who got jobbed remotely is Brandon Phillips.

Hitting 15 points higher than Uggla, more SB's, Better glove, more speed. This is the next Joe Morgan, boyz!

GAC
07-04-2006, 06:49 AM
This just shows how much of a farce the All-Star game has become. I rarely watch it anymore.

THe All-Star game is about pitting the best players, from their respective positions, in an interleague head-to-head contest... not being selected by fickled fans, who try to get their players in by attempting to out stuff the ballot box over the competition.

The game is not about fan favorites, but the all-stars from the respective leagues.

And doesn't MLB stipulate that a representative must be present from every team? Political correctness? What if none of the players on your roster, going by the numbers/performance, really belongs on the roster? Yet you are gonna displace someone more worthy or deserving because so-and-so must be represented? That is not an All-Star game IMO.

I've held the same opinion for many, many years now that they should never have instituted fan balloting, and allowing them to pick the rosters.

tripleaaaron
07-05-2006, 10:46 PM
And doesn't MLB stipulate that a representative must be present from every team? Political correctness? What if none of the players on your roster, going by the numbers/performance, really belongs on the roster? Yet you are gonna displace someone more worthy or deserving because so-and-so must be represented? That is not an All-Star game IMO.

I've held the same opinion for many, many years now that they should never have instituted fan balloting, and allowing them to pick the rosters.

Mark Redmon is definately All-Star game material;)