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danforsman
07-12-2006, 10:57 AM
Sports Radio 610 (http://www.sportsradio610.com) in Houston is reporting that a press conference is scheduled for 9:30 this morning at Minute Maid Park to make a 'major announcement'. Rumblings have been that Miguel Tejada could be en route to Houston. No confirmation yet, though.

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 11:03 AM
I called this one two weeks ago.

I definitely see this happening. It makes all kinds of sense. And should be enough to put them over the top.

flyer85
07-12-2006, 11:03 AM
that would be a major coup for the Stros as Tejada is exactly what they need. He would be a slight downgrade defensively but a huge offensive upgrade who would fit in nicely behind Berkman.

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:03 AM
Sports Radio 610 (http://www.sportsradio610.com) in Houston is reporting that a press conference is scheduled for 9:30 this morning at Minute Maid Park to make a 'major announcement'. Rumblings have been that Miguel Tejada could be en route to Houston. No confirmation yet, though.

Jason Hirsch for Miguel Tejada?

RedsMan3203
07-12-2006, 11:04 AM
So, we gonna know here in 25 mins whats going on?

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 11:04 AM
Jason Hirsch for Miguel Tejada?

Probably.

But hey, Reds' fans, we still got....Hoooooomer Bailey!

Yippee.

flyer85
07-12-2006, 11:06 AM
Jason Hirsch for Miguel Tejada?I would think it would take more that that.

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 11:07 AM
I would think it would take more that that.

Probably not much more.

It is Baltimore after all. And Miggy's got a big price tag.

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:07 AM
I would think it would take more that that.

cash

flyer85
07-12-2006, 11:08 AM
cashI would think 2-3 prospects and the O's send some cash to Houston.

flyer85
07-12-2006, 11:09 AM
And Miggy's got a big price tag.and big offensive numbers for a SS with a decent glove.

RedsMan3203
07-12-2006, 11:11 AM
and big offensive numbers for a SS with a decent glove.

He has been slowing down alot in the last year n half.

Marc D
07-12-2006, 11:11 AM
I called this one two weeks ago.

I definitely see this happening. It makes all kinds of sense. And should be enough to put them over the top.

Sure can't hurt them but I don't know if it automatically puts them over the top.

Still a 2man pitching show this year, Oswald and Clemens. A bad bullpen and now a 2 man ofense in Berkman and Tejada.

I guess in this division that could be enough but still some major holes in that team.

flyer85
07-12-2006, 11:12 AM
He has been slowing down alot in the last year n half.... which is not surprising, however, he would still instantly become the best hitting SS in the NL by a bunch.

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:14 AM
If this deal does go down, we will get to see how serious Krivsky is about making the post season this year. What will he do to counter? It should be interesting.

Red Leader
07-12-2006, 11:14 AM
Thank God, maybe he'll put an end to me seeing the David Ecksteins and Jack Wilson's of the NL making the All-Star team. :rolleyes: :laugh:

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 11:14 AM
Sure can't hurt them but I don't know if it automatically puts them over the top.

Still a 2man pitching show this year, Oswald and Clemens. A bad bullpen and now a 2 man ofense in Berkman and Tejada.

I guess in this division that could be enough but still some major holes in that team.

Their offense is bad, but it's not nearly as bad as some would like to paint it. It's middling right now. With Miggy, it's good.

And their pen, outside of Lidge, has been getting better. And I'm sure they'll address their pen, unlike Cincinnati.

And if I had to have a 2 man rotation: it'd be Oswalt and Clemens.

RedsMan3203
07-12-2006, 11:17 AM
IJ've been listening yet I haven't heard anything about it...... Are we under another false alarm.

Red Leader
07-12-2006, 11:20 AM
Also, if this is true, Miggy can opt to become a free agent at the end of the year since he is in the middle of a long term contract. With his contract, though, you'd think he'd wouldn't go that route.

westofyou
07-12-2006, 11:22 AM
And I'm sure they'll address their pen, unlike Cincinnati.
Didn't they just do that last week?

Oh that's right it doesn't count unless it's perfect.

Krusty
07-12-2006, 11:22 AM
It would probably be along the same magnitude of the Carlos Beltran trade two years ago.

lollipopcurve
07-12-2006, 11:26 AM
Oh that's right it doesn't count unless it's perfect.

Only the smart GMs have irresistible sales skills.

RedsMan3203
07-12-2006, 11:27 AM
Okay - THey are talking about it now... Should be coming up soon.

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:31 AM
isn't it about an Oswalt extension?

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 11:31 AM
Only the smart GMs have irresistible sales skills.

I'm not sure what they have. But the results speak for themselves.

And I don't want "perfect," just "clearly better."

flyer85
07-12-2006, 11:32 AM
isn't it about an Oswalt extension?he could stand to be a little taller.

RedsMan3203
07-12-2006, 11:32 AM
isn't it about an Oswalt extension?

Thats what they are talking about... But they don't know yet...

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:33 AM
Thats what they are talking about... But they don't know yet...

sounds like a lot of speculation on their part.

RedsMan3203
07-12-2006, 11:33 AM
sounds like a lot of speculation on their part.

It is, but they have to talk about something....

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:34 AM
It is, but they have to talk about something....

I guess we do too. :D

Reds Fanatic
07-12-2006, 11:38 AM
Looks like the news is they are about to acquire Huff according to Ken Rosenthal

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5778412


The Astros, poised to acquire a middle-of-the-order hitter they are seeking, are on the verge of acquiring infielder/outfielder Aubrey Huff from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, FOXSports.com has learned. A deal could be announced as soon as Wednesday

The Devil Rays would acquire two or three minor league prospects in the trade. The level and quality of the prospects would depend on how much of Huff's remaining salary that the Rays assumed.

RedsMan3203
07-12-2006, 11:39 AM
Roger Clemens to retire?!

lmao


(kidding)

flyer85
07-12-2006, 11:40 AM
with the year Huff is having I am not sure how much he would help. Tampa bay really should have traded him last year.

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:40 AM
Looks like the news is they are about to acquire Huff according to Ken Rosenthal

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5778412

:lol: not quite earth shattering. Does that mean that something else is in the works?

danforsman
07-12-2006, 11:40 AM
Just what the Astros need...another 1B/3B/OF to go with Lamb, Bekrman and Ensberg. Fans will riot...

RedsMan3203
07-12-2006, 11:42 AM
A press conference for Huff?

Reds Fanatic
07-12-2006, 11:44 AM
It is past 9:30 Houston time. They are running late on their press conference.

MrCinatit
07-12-2006, 11:44 AM
Getting Huff instead of Tejada would be like getting to meet Hawkwind instead of Led Zepplin

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:44 AM
here it is. :laugh:

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:45 AM
it's Huff and cash for 2 minor leaguers.

danforsman
07-12-2006, 11:45 AM
Huff and cash for Zobrist and Mitch Talbot. That's absolutely hilarious. Zobrist is quite good. Houston fans are going to be furious.

ghettochild
07-12-2006, 11:45 AM
Huff for Talbot and Ben Zobrist.

westofyou
07-12-2006, 11:45 AM
Genius!!! LMAO

MrCinatit
07-12-2006, 11:46 AM
"A polished, accomplished, veteran hitter..."

When did Dan0 join Houston?

Red Leader
07-12-2006, 11:46 AM
with the year Huff is having I am not sure how much he would help. Tampa bay really should have traded him last year.


He has been tearing it up since about the 3rd week of June. His numbers on the season still aren't awe inspiring, but he has been very, very good since about the 20th of June. He's also a known 2nd half player, meaning his stats always rise in the 2nd half. That's where he makes his living.

OldXOhio
07-12-2006, 11:46 AM
Just what the Astros need...another 1B/3B/OF to go with Lamb, Bekrman and Ensberg. Fans will riot...

Unless it's a precursor to another deal.....

Reds Fanatic
07-12-2006, 11:47 AM
That is funny. I was worried about them getting Tejada and their major announcement was Huff.

Jpup
07-12-2006, 11:48 AM
That is funny. I was worried about them getting Tejada and their major announcement was Huff.

somebody needs to change the thread title.:)

Joseph
07-12-2006, 11:50 AM
somebody needs to change the thread title.:)

Done :)

Marc D
07-12-2006, 11:51 AM
This is a clear example of what I've been dreading from the Reds.

You don't trade anything of real value to get some junk, short term fix in order to try and win this division. The Central's weakness is fooling people into thinking their team is legit when its clearly not.

If scraping together the Yan's and Guardado's of the world is enough to win it then great. If we trade a Cueto or Wood for the pitching equivilant of Aubry Huff you can look foreward to another decade or so of losing because the FO isn't nearly as good as we think they are.

OldXOhio
07-12-2006, 12:07 PM
Why don't we wait and see what's in store before convincing ourselves that the band-aid approach of the past will continue to be employed by the current regime.

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 12:09 PM
This is a clear example of what I've been dreading from the Reds.

You don't trade anything of real value to get some junk, short term fix in order to try and win this division. The Central's weakness is fooling people into thinking their team is legit when its clearly not.

If scraping together the Yan's and Guardado's of the world is enough to win it then great. If we trade a Cueto or Wood for the pitching equivilant of Aubry Huff you can look foreward to another decade or so of losing because the FO isn't nearly as good as we think they are.

Houston traded junk to acquire Huff, who should help. Not nearly as much as Tejada, obviously, but he'll help.

If the Reds acquired the bullpen equivalent of Huff for what they surrendered in prospects, I'd be pleased.

Marc D
07-12-2006, 12:15 PM
Houston traded junk to acquire Huff, who should help. Not nearly as much as Tejada, obviously, but he'll help.

If the Reds acquired the bullpen equivalent of Huff for what they surrendered in prospects, I'd be pleased.

I was under the impression one of the prospects was good, if not then disregard. My concern remains however that someone's going to get "pennant fever", trade something of value because its a few years away from helping us and next year we still won't be WS champs but we'll have a little bit weaker farm system.

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 12:17 PM
I was under the impression one of the prospects was good, if not then disregard. My concern remains however that someone's going to get "pennant fever", trade something of value because its a few years away from helping us and next year we still won't be WS champs but we'll have a little bit weaker farm system.

Neither prospect is even Denorfia-worthy. Basically fluff.

Krusty
07-12-2006, 12:19 PM
Let's see....St. Louis got LHP Jeff Weaver, the Reds got LHP Eddie Guardado and now the Astros acquire OF-lb-3b Huff. Seems to me it is the Brewers turn to make a move.

Does anyone honestly believe this will be the last moves these teams make before September 1? Things are just getting interesting.

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 12:21 PM
Let's see....St. Louis got LHP Jeff Weaver, the Reds got LHP Eddie Guardado and now the Astros acquire OF-lb-3b Huff. Seems to me it is the Brewers turn to make a move.

Does anyone honestly believe this will be the last moves these teams make before September 1? Things are just getting interesting.

No I don't.

And I also know that the Brewers and Reds have the most trading chips--and will probably be the least active.

Loser is as loser does.

Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow....

westofyou
07-12-2006, 12:22 PM
Neither prospect is even Denorfia-worthy. Basically fluff.
Really?


Also gaining some positive reviews in the Corpus Christi lineup is shortstop Ben Zobrist. A sixth-round pick as a senior in 2004, Zobrist is already 25, but is batting .320/.426/.469 and has more walks than strikeouts at every level he's played at, including a 27-21 mark this year. "His hands start high and he's leaning way back with his front shoulder a good ten inches higher then his back shoulder and you say to yourself, 'How is he going to do anything like that?'" said the scout. "But when he steps and lands he's balanced out and it works with his slappy stroke."

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 12:24 PM
Really?

He'll be 26 at the start of next season; currently he's in AA, I believe. That's fringe.

westofyou
07-12-2006, 12:25 PM
He'll be 26 at the start of next season; currently he's in AA, I believe. That's fringe.
Denorfia is older... but of course he plays for a loser, so we'll just ignore that little fact.

Falls City Beer
07-12-2006, 12:26 PM
Denorfia is older... but of course he plays for a loser, so we'll just ignore that little fact.

And Denorfia's MLB-ready.

westofyou
07-12-2006, 12:30 PM
And Denorfia's MLB-ready.
Yeah he's a regular Dave Revering being held back by the BRM outfield.

Krusty
07-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Yeah he's a regular Dave Revering being held back by the BRM outfield.

And if I could package Denorfia (Revering) in a deal for Willis (Vida Blue), I would do it.

Sea Ray
07-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Let's see....St. Louis got LHP Jeff Weaver, the Reds got LHP Eddie Guardado and now the Astros acquire OF-lb-3b Huff. Seems to me it is the Brewers turn to make a move.

Does anyone honestly believe this will be the last moves these teams make before September 1? Things are just getting interesting.

Weaver's right handed

Jpup
07-12-2006, 12:33 PM
some guy on Cold Pizza was talking like Soriano could be headed to Houston as well. I don't think he was basing it off any really inside info, just speculating.

Krusty
07-12-2006, 12:35 PM
Weaver's right handed

Yeah I know. Keyboard error.

danforsman
07-12-2006, 12:41 PM
Don't forget that Hunsicker drafted Talbot and Zobrist. Zobrist is too old for AA, but Burke and Lane were too old for AAA, yet they were still festering there. It very well could be that Zobrist has been ready for a promotion for a significant period of time.

Jpup
07-12-2006, 12:43 PM
Don't forget that Hunsicker drafted Talbot and Zobrist. Zobrist is too old for AA, but Burke and Lane were too old for AAA, yet they were still festering there. It very well could be that Zobrist has been ready for a promotion for a significant period of time.

Anything being said about Soriano being traded for Jason Hirsch and Chris Burke?

Highlifeman21
07-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Probably.

But hey, Reds' fans, we still got....Hoooooomer Bailey!

Yippee.

Can't we trade him already for something that'll help us before 2010, if he ever helps us at all?

danforsman
07-12-2006, 01:19 PM
I would think that Ensberg's the odd man out, currently, but I would think he'd be at least as likely to spend time on the DL as he would be traded.

reds44
07-12-2006, 01:27 PM
Did we get Tejada and D-train yet?

:lol:

Raisor
07-12-2006, 04:49 PM
If the wife and I ever have a kid, we're going to name her Audry.

Ravenlord
07-12-2006, 04:56 PM
Getting Huff instead of Tejada would be like getting to meet Hawkwind instead of Led Zepplin
i'd rather meet Hawkwind.

Ravenlord
07-12-2006, 05:00 PM
Huff 2006

AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
230 26 65 15 1 8 28 24 25 0 0 283 348 461

KronoRed
07-12-2006, 05:04 PM
If the wife and I ever have a kid, we're going to name her Audry.
You hate your kids?

KronoRed
07-12-2006, 05:05 PM
Puffy had some good zingers on Huff at last years gathering.

Someone threw peanuts at him

Good times

Johnny Footstool
07-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Ensberg must be hurt, because why else would you bench a guy with an OPS near .900?

Marc D
07-12-2006, 05:22 PM
Ensberg must be hurt, because why else would you bench a guy with an OPS near .900?

I dunno, ask Narron.

PuffyPig
07-12-2006, 05:29 PM
Ensberg>Huff, even when Ensberg is slumping, unless you are into "BA as being King".

To give up prospects to sit a better player????

M2
07-12-2006, 05:35 PM
The problem with acquiring Huff is it means either he or Lance Berkman has to play the OF.

RANDY IN INDY
07-12-2006, 05:48 PM
The problem with acquiring Huff is it means either he or Lance Berkman has to play the OF.

Berkman ain't a problem in the outfield, when you apply some of this board's standards for outfield play, particularly a corner.

westofyou
07-12-2006, 05:54 PM
Berkman ain't a problem in the outfield, when you apply some of this board's standards for outfield play, particularly a corner.
LF perhaps, but Berkman will be playing more RF now.

M2
07-12-2006, 06:00 PM
Berkman ain't a problem in the outfield, when you apply some of this board's standards for outfield play, particularly a corner.

It's mostly a problem for reasons of health. Berkman's legs are going fast, as are Huff's.

As for his standard of play out there, he's been on a backwards force march for a few years now. Put it to you this way, I'm plenty unhappy about Adam Dunn's fielding this season (because he should be getting better in the OF at this point in his career and not worse), but I'd rather have him out there than Berkman at this point. Huff's always been a butcher in the field wherever he plays. Plus, Berkman hasn't gotten many reps in the OF this season and I'm guessing you're looking at an ugly transition if you stick him out there.

Doc. Scott
07-12-2006, 07:11 PM
Huff has been pretty solid in the past, and he's still young. He had a LaRue-esque start to his season, missing the first part, then slumping out of the gate. He was pretty darn good from 2002-2004- perhaps the change in leagues and move to a better hitter's park would be good for him.

I think this helps Houston in the present pretty well. Although Huff's glove sounds like a problem.