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REDREAD
07-17-2006, 10:29 AM
It seems like for the past 3 years, there's been a persistent rumor that the Reds could've had Westbrook for Kearns. Let's assume that offer was still on the table for Wayne.

Would you rather have had Westbrook than Majewski. The press said that the initial trade with the Nationals, was Majewski for Kearns, and then it was later expanded to the 8 player deal. So, you'd still have the option of trading Lopez + Wagner for all those other guys.

I think I'd rather have Westbrook. The guy is on his way to his 3rd 200 inning season. I know he's not overpowering, but he has a nice 4.19 ERA this year. He has a nice track record, compiling a 4.37 career ERA, despite a rough start his first two seasons.

IMO, it would've helped the Reds a lot more to get 100 innings out of Westbrook for the balance of the season, as opposed to maybe 50 more innings out of Majewski. It would've allowed us to seal up that black hole in the rotation.

Westbrook is 28, which is older than Majewski, but still pretty young.

What are your thoughts?

redsmetz
07-17-2006, 10:33 AM
I can't choose any of these options. If you'd had a Fourth option, i.e. "Like the 8 player deal as it came down," I'd probably pick that one.

ChaseReds
07-17-2006, 10:35 AM
Get over it you cant change what happened....move on...seriously...JUST move on...

jimbo
07-17-2006, 10:39 AM
I just think the team was in more need of relief help than starting pitching. On the surface, probably a Kearns-Westbrook would normally be the better of the two options, but with the market being what it is for relievers this season and the need the Reds had for that, I think Kearns-Majewski was the better of the two.

Highlifeman21
07-17-2006, 10:39 AM
Westbrook helps the rotation, and puts one of the borderline guys, basically anyone not named Harang, Arroyo or Westbrook, as an option for the bullpen. While I don't think Milton would be great out of the bullpen, it's hard to say what Claussen or Ramirez would look like coming out of the pen.

Adding Majewski and Bray helps the bullpen, but still doesn't change the fact that only 40% of the time most fans will feel comfortable with the starter on the mound.

REDREAD
07-17-2006, 10:39 AM
I can't choose any of these options. If you'd had a Fourth option, i.e. "Like the 8 player deal as it came down," I'd probably pick that one.

then you need to vote for Majewski.. The assumption was that you could seperate the Kearns-Majewski part of the trade out from the rest, because it was reported that was the initial 1 for 1 swap.

REDREAD
07-17-2006, 10:40 AM
Get over it you cant change what happened....move on...seriously...JUST move on...

Why read the thread then? This was the biggest thing to happen to the team in a couple of years. Let us have a little fun second guessing it. Geez, lighten up a bit. :rolleyes:

TOBTTReds
07-17-2006, 10:41 AM
Get over it you cant change what happened....move on...seriously...JUST move on...

Dude, relax. He's just asking what people would have rather have done. This is a message board, welcome to it.

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If those deals were straight up, then I think Westbrook for sure. But I'm sure there was a lot to it.

ChaseReds
07-17-2006, 10:48 AM
Sorry everyone I am new to this board. I just have heard so much about the trade in the past 2 days that my head is going to explode. Again, I love the fact the the new Reds owners are willing to be aggressive- something cincy hasnt had in a very long time.

registerthis
07-17-2006, 10:50 AM
Sorry everyone I am new to this board. I just have heard so much about the trade in the past 2 days that my head is going to explode. Again, I love the fact the the new Reds owners are willing to be aggressive- something cincy hasnt had in a very long time.

"Aggressive" for aggressive's sake isn't a valuable trait. It's good to be aggressive, but not at the expense of wasting talent.

MaineRed
07-17-2006, 11:59 AM
How many polls are you going to start on the subject of this trade?

What is next, who would you rather have Pujols or Kearns?

We get it, you don't like the GM of the Reds, no matter who it is.

REDREAD
07-17-2006, 01:09 PM
How many polls are you going to start on the subject of this trade?
.

I'm sorry, your Highness, I guess I will stop putting polls in my threads from now on, since it displeases you :laugh:

Actually, I still like Wayne, and I even said on another thread that I'm willing to give him a pass on this mistake, because all his other moves have been good.

Even the best GMs make a stinker trade every now and then.

Lighten up a bit. Why are the people that like this trade so defensive? From my other poll (I'm sure you've seen it :laugh: ), it seems like only 25% of the board really hates the trade, while about 33% loves it.

thatcoolguy_22
07-17-2006, 01:32 PM
We needed bullpen help in a dramatic sort of way. Also we still have a week and a half before the trade deadline. SP is still a possibility. there are some good arms being talked about...

Krusty
07-17-2006, 01:42 PM
If the trade was made at the start of the season, I would have taken Westbrook. But with the way the bullpen imploded the past month, it is obvious the Reds had to do something quickly if they wanted to entertain playoff thoughts in their heads.

And there is the question whether the Tribe would have made the trade now when it is obvious they won't be making the playoffs this year.

nmculbreth
07-17-2006, 01:48 PM
I'd rather have Bray, Majewski and the $10 mil that would have gone to Lopez and Kearns.

MaineRed
07-17-2006, 03:36 PM
I even said on another thread that I'm willing to give him a pass on this mistake, because all his other moves have been good.

He gets a pass? I'm sure he'll sleep well tonight knowing that.

Johnny Footstool
07-17-2006, 03:49 PM
Get over it you cant change what happened....move on...seriously...JUST move on...

If you don't want to discuss it, you can avoid clicking on these threads or simply log off.

redsfanmia
07-17-2006, 03:49 PM
The Reds needed help in the bullpen more than a starter so how would Westbrook be an uprgrade? How do we know that Kearns could have been traded for Westbrook at this point anyway?

smith288
07-17-2006, 03:53 PM
Odd how brazen the newbs are lately.

RBA
07-17-2006, 10:36 PM
Westbrook getting hammered by the Angels in the first. 3 runs so far.

KronoRed
07-18-2006, 01:20 AM
Westbrook, always prefer a starter.

IF that's the best we could get

crazybob60
07-18-2006, 01:26 AM
During the whole time that Kearns trade talk was going on, and the whole Jake Westbrook deals and rumors were circulating, I was always one that said that I really didn't think it was a fair shake for the Reds to get just Westbrook for Kearns, although I did like Westbrook alot and if the Reds were able to get Westbrook and something else for Kearns, I would probably like the trade, notice probably. But once this trade has gone down with the Nats, I am now very much in favor of the trade of Westbrook for Kearns and would have much rather seen the trade of Westbrook for Kearns, even if it had to be a 1 for 1 trade.

REDREAD
07-18-2006, 08:15 AM
He gets a pass? I'm sure he'll sleep well tonight knowing that.

Well, I hope you get some sleep, you can sure use it. If you don't like the threads I start, please put me on ignore instead of complaining. Why did you come back a second time to read a thread that you had no interest in? Why click on it again?