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Reds-aholic
07-26-2006, 02:08 PM
Mark Prior has just left the game in the middle of a no-hitter. After a pitch he shook his head and grabbed his arm, they then took him out.

Sean_CaseyRules
07-26-2006, 02:17 PM
Even though he is a Cubbie, I've always liked Mark Prior. And its really sad to see this happen to him if it ends up being serious because he has just had no luck at all with keeping healthy, or any of the Cubs for that matter.

smith288
07-26-2006, 02:17 PM
Prior is done... Kaput.

writerdan33
07-26-2006, 02:45 PM
This is second hand information, so take it for what it's worth.

But friends of mine who work in and/or play minor league baseball insist Prior juiced to help his quick rise to the bigs. They say the arm problems are at least partially due to his muscles/tendons/whatever being damaged and never completely healing after getting off the stuff.

Like I say, take it for what it's worth. But the info comes from folks who watched/covered him on a regular basis.

If true, it's very, very sad.

Team Clark
07-26-2006, 02:53 PM
Eric Gagne says "Hi" :wave:

TOBTTReds
07-26-2006, 02:57 PM
If true, it's very, very sad.

I disagree. If true, that is his own fault. It would be sad if he just played by the rules, and kept getting hurt, that would be a "life isn't fair" situation. This is a "cheaters never prosper" situation.

Of course we have learned many do prosper: Sheffield, Giambi, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Raffy, Bagwell, Biggio.....on and on.

ThornWithin81
07-26-2006, 02:58 PM
I don't know if this is right, but the cubs website is saying he was pulled after 5 2/3rds, after throwing 103 pitches.

Is it just me, or does that seem wrong? 103 pitches in 6 no-hit innings? :confused:

I've always felt bad for Prior. Guy just can't stay healthy, and its a shame with his talent.

lollipopcurve
07-26-2006, 02:58 PM
But friends of mine who work in and/or play minor league baseball insist Prior juiced to help his quick rise to the bigs.

Strongly suspected it myself -- the guy's legs were freakish.

Now about Clemens...........

Strikes Out Looking
07-26-2006, 03:00 PM
I don't know if this is right, but the cubs website is saying he was pulled after 5 2/3rds, after throwing 103 pitches.

Is it just me, or does that seem wrong? 103 pitches in 6 no-hit innings? :confused:

I've always felt bad for Prior. Guy just can't stay healthy, and its a shame with his talent.

He may not have given up any hits, but he walked 5.

ThornWithin81
07-26-2006, 03:01 PM
Oh, nevermind. He had five walks in the 6 innings pitched, which is why he was already up to 103.

RBA
07-26-2006, 03:01 PM
Chalk this up to not, "doing the right thing, even when others are not looking". INTEGRITY.

writerdan33
07-26-2006, 03:02 PM
I disagree. If true, that is his own fault. It would be sad if he just played by the rules, and kept getting hurt, that would be a "life isn't fair" situation. This is a "cheaters never prosper" situation.

Of course we have learned many do prosper: Sheffield, Giambi, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Raffy, Bagwell, Biggio.....on and on.

Well, of course I agree with that assessment. I meant it's sad if in fact another athlete has been exposed as a cheater. As in "a sad commentary."

Should have been more clear.

Blue
07-26-2006, 03:02 PM
I disagree. If true, that is his own fault. It would be sad if he just played by the rules, and kept getting hurt, that would be a "life isn't fair" situation. This is a "cheaters never prosper" situation.

Of course we have learned many do prosper: Sheffield, Giambi, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Raffy, Bagwell, Biggio.....on and on.

Biggio? Are you serious? Yeah, him and David Eckstein. Where did you hear that?

corkedbat
07-26-2006, 03:40 PM
Wonder what kind of careers Wood & Prior would have had if they weren't Mojo'd by the Curse of the Scrubs? Be afraid Carlos...be very afraid. :scared:

Cedric
07-26-2006, 03:48 PM
This is second hand information, so take it for what it's worth.

But friends of mine who work in and/or play minor league baseball insist Prior juiced to help his quick rise to the bigs. They say the arm problems are at least partially due to his muscles/tendons/whatever being damaged and never completely healing after getting off the stuff.

Like I say, take it for what it's worth. But the info comes from folks who watched/covered him on a regular basis.

If true, it's very, very sad.

Yep. The Prior whispers were always there. Anyone ever see the guys calfs?

Falls City Beer
07-26-2006, 03:53 PM
The guy had the temper of a roid head, as well.

redsupport
07-26-2006, 07:19 PM
Here is a jocose anecdote. My child is a Little League pitcher. Two or three years ago, every instructor used Mark Prior and his "towel drill" as the template, the apex, the pinnacle, the zenith, the prototype of mechanics to perfection. iguess he did not have a long half life as the archtypically perfect delivery. Or maybe not enough towels

Boston Red
07-26-2006, 07:38 PM
This is second hand information, so take it for what it's worth.

But friends of mine who work in and/or play minor league baseball insist Prior juiced to help his quick rise to the bigs. They say the arm problems are at least partially due to his muscles/tendons/whatever being damaged and never completely healing after getting off the stuff.

Like I say, take it for what it's worth. But the info comes from folks who watched/covered him on a regular basis.

If true, it's very, very sad.

Prior was only in the minors for about a month, right? BTW, I looked it up, and Prior made a grand total of 9 minor leage appearances before joining the Cubs, so I don't think someone who covered him in the minors would be the best source.

Gainesville Red
07-26-2006, 08:32 PM
Biggio? Are you serious? Yeah, him and David Eckstein. Where did you hear that?

Yeah, who's ever said anything about Biggio?

I may be able to buy Bagwell, but I've never even thought about Biggio. Where do you hear things like this?

Astrobuddy
07-27-2006, 08:29 AM
He didnt hear it, he made it up.

Roy Tucker
07-27-2006, 08:36 AM
FWIW, none of the writeups about this game I saw mentioned anything about a Prior injury. It was a strictly a pitch count thing (from Dusty!).

TOBTTReds
07-27-2006, 02:25 PM
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TOBTTReds
07-27-2006, 02:40 PM
Yeah, him and David Eckstein.

That's a funny comparison based on their numbers. I think it actually proves my point a bit better. Biggio's about to hit 300 HR's and Eck is coming close to 30.

rcb126
07-27-2006, 09:22 PM
Imagine your Dusty Baker. Your club is going no where. One of the best pitchers on your club coming off the D/L has reached 103 pitches. Are you really gonna jeopardize him for the future? The opposing pitcher is also pitching a shut out. You'd be a fool to leave him in longer than that. BTW......any suggestion that he's on roids or as been without proof is slander.........

dman
07-27-2006, 11:30 PM
This is second hand information, so take it for what it's worth.

But friends of mine who work in and/or play minor league baseball insist Prior juiced to help his quick rise to the bigs. They say the arm problems are at least partially due to his muscles/tendons/whatever being damaged and never completely healing after getting off the stuff.

Like I say, take it for what it's worth. But the info comes from folks who watched/covered him on a regular basis.

If true, it's very, very sad.
This kind of stuff irks me. Please don't take it wrong, but I feel that Wood and Prior's problems are a result of Dusty Baker misusing both of those guys, leaving them in for games much longer than what he should, etc... Look at Prior, just like with every other player we insist are juicers, we look at their physical characteristics first. Prior does not look like a juicer.

crazybob60
07-27-2006, 11:33 PM
Well at least Dusty made a correct call this time and not leaving his starter out there too long....this is what, the first time in about 50???

dman
07-27-2006, 11:43 PM
Well at least Dusty made a correct call this time and not leaving his starter out there too long....this is what, the first time in about 50???
Case in point 2003 against Florida. Dusty got lucky. There was a guy with the last name of Bartman at Wrigley that night to get Dusty off the hook for leaving Prior in longer than what he should've.

Chip R
07-28-2006, 12:50 AM
Prior does not look like a juicer.

I am not saying he is one but you cannot just look at a guy and say he is juicing. A lot of the guys who are testing positive you wonder if it is a mistake because they do not look like juicers. Who was that guy we signed for ST who tested positive last year, Alex Sanchez? He certainly does not look like a juicer.

dman
07-28-2006, 08:37 AM
I am not saying he is one but you cannot just look at a guy and say he is juicing. A lot of the guys who are testing positive you wonder if it is a mistake because they do not look like juicers. Who was that guy we signed for ST who tested positive last year, Alex Sanchez? He certainly does not look like a juicer.
Good point Chip. Once you think of something like the Tour de France riders that have been testing positive that makes one think a little bit harder about the scenario, because they don't look like the "juicing" types neither.