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zombie-a-go-go
07-28-2006, 11:11 AM
Well, as summer winds to an end and people start heading back to school, moving away, and such, the weekly D&D game I run has lost a few of its regular members. Those of us who remain are beginning a new campaign over the next few weeks, and are looking for one or two players to round out our group.

We're located in NKY, about 10 minutes south of the Brent Spence, and play most every Sunday evening from 4-9pm. If there's anyone in the area interested a game, or you'd just like more information, please drop me a PM.

ochre
07-28-2006, 11:19 AM
pencil and paper? Geek.

Be a real man and play a MMORPG.

Never have to even leave the house, let alone actually interact with another human being in person. There no one will care how close to the Brent Spence Bridge you live.

Dunn is using his secret language

:)

Benny-Distefano
07-28-2006, 11:28 AM
Do you guys listen to 8-track tapes and watch the black and white TV while you play?


seriously.... MMORPG, google it.

Much has happened in the world since Wrath of Khan. Al Gore invented the internet, for one thing... ;)

zombie-a-go-go
07-28-2006, 11:35 AM
Oh, that's cold, when geeks turn upon their own... ;)

I prefer actual human contact with a group of friends, kicking back a few beers, telling jokes, and rolling some dice to sitting in front of a PC in a darkened room.

MMORPGs are like porn - they're entertaining, but I'd rather have sex. :D

Rob Dicken
07-28-2006, 11:36 AM
MMORPGs are like porn - they're entertaining, but I'd rather have sex. :D

If we told any of our girlfriends, girls we are dating, or wives we play ROLE-PLAYING GAMES in our spare time....yeah, we wouldn't be getting any. LOL

:p:

ochre
07-28-2006, 11:38 AM
Do you guys listen to 8-track tapes and watch the black and white TV while you play?


seriously.... MMORPG, google it.

Much has happened in the world since Wrath of Khan. Al Gore invented the internet, for one thing... ;)
I heard one of them draws their character, let's call it a 'toon, on an etcha-sketch and holds it in front of his face when it's his "turn".

zombie-a-go-go
07-28-2006, 11:40 AM
If we told any of our girlfriends, girls we are dating, or wives we play ROLE-PLAYING GAMES in our spare time....yeah, we wouldn't be getting any. LOL

:p:

Well, half of our group, including myself, are married with kids, so we don't really worry about finding dates anymore. ;)

westofyou
07-28-2006, 11:42 AM
Ive got the dungeon masters guide.
Ive got a twelve sided die.
Ive got kid pride.
And nightcrawler too, waiting there for me, yes I do.
I do.

Rob Dicken
07-28-2006, 11:42 AM
Well, half of our group, including myself, are married with kids, so we don't really worry about finding dates anymore. ;)

'tis a sad day! j/k :p:

HBP
07-28-2006, 12:25 PM
Ive got the dungeon masters guide.
Ive got a twelve sided die.
Ive got kid pride.
And nightcrawler too, waiting there for me, yes I do.
I do.

Is this in your garage?

westofyou
07-28-2006, 12:30 PM
Is this in your garage?
I got Peter Cris waiting for me too.... I do.

savafan
07-28-2006, 12:35 PM
Seriously, LARP is the only way to go. ;)

GIK
07-28-2006, 12:58 PM
Weezer. Nice.

ochre
07-28-2006, 01:02 PM
Seriously, LARP is the only way to go. ;)
You win.

OUReds
07-28-2006, 01:34 PM
From one game geek to another, I apologize in advance, but I am contractually obligated to post these links whenever D&D pops up on any non-gaming site.

8 bit D&D

http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/8bitdnd.html

A longer D&D skit (audio only) from the same Comedy Troupe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPFZN66s8s&search=dungeons%20and%20dragons

Finally, Stephen Colbertpays homage to D&D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycLc1QZnVTs


Enjoy your splendid isolation! Don't forget to bathe.

zombie-a-go-go
07-28-2006, 01:36 PM
Seriously, LARP is the only way to go. ;)

Pros: smokin' hot goth chicks in leather and fishnets.

Cons: smokin' hot goth chicks in leather and fishnets are usually totally-freaking-crazy (and the ones who LARP usually want to cut you and drink your blood).

savafan
07-28-2006, 01:44 PM
Cons: smokin' hot goth chicks in leather and fishnets are usually totally-freaking-crazy (and the ones who LARP usually want to cut you and drink your blood).

And you're not okay with this? :eek:

zombie-a-go-go
07-28-2006, 01:45 PM
And you're not okay with this? :eek:

Not anymore. :cool:

OUReds
07-28-2006, 01:45 PM
And you're not okay with this? :eek:

I'm with Zombie on this one. It's one of those things that sounds a lot better then it actually is.

ochre
07-28-2006, 01:45 PM
Pros: smokin' hot goth chicks in leather and fishnets.

Cons: smokin' hot goth chicks in leather and fishnets are usually totally-freaking-crazy (and the ones who LARP usually want to cut you and drink your blood).
http://www.musecube.com/MistressCleo/45433/45433-333158-large.jpg

savafan
07-28-2006, 01:48 PM
http://www.musecube.com/MistressCleo/45433/45433-333158-large.jpg


http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d134/savafan/45433-333158-large.jpg

zombie-a-go-go
07-28-2006, 01:54 PM
Mistress Cleo again? :lol:

KronoRed
07-28-2006, 03:30 PM
:runawaycr

Johnny Footstool
07-28-2006, 03:39 PM
Ive got kid pride.


Kitty Pryde.

Rivers Cuomo is rolling over in his grave right now.

Johnny Footstool
07-28-2006, 03:45 PM
Oh, that's cold, when geeks turn upon their own... ;)

I prefer actual human contact with a group of friends, kicking back a few beers, telling jokes, and rolling some dice to sitting in front of a PC in a darkened room.


That's what these MMORPG'ers don't understand. The whole point of role playing is human interaction. It's like improv acting. I've come up with some of my funniest ideas and jokes while riffing with my friends and playing superhero RPGs.

(D&D is for cretins, BTW).

zombie-a-go-go
07-28-2006, 03:50 PM
(D&D is for cretins, BTW).

So what are you playing, Hero System? M&M? I'll respect your statement so long as you don't say Palladium. :evil:

I've got half the group willing to give Shadowrun a shot, but we've been sidetracked by the idea of running a pirates/swashbucklers game - which D&D is magnificently suited for.

ochre
07-28-2006, 03:55 PM
That's what these MMORPG'ers don't understand. The whole point of role playing is human interaction. It's like improv acting. I've come up with some of my funniest ideas and jokes while riffing with my friends and playing superhero RPGs.

(D&D is for cretins, BTW).
Luddite.

REDREAD
07-28-2006, 04:45 PM
Oh, that's cold, when geeks turn upon their own... ;)

I prefer actual human contact with a group of friends, kicking back a few beers, telling jokes, and rolling some dice to sitting in front of a PC in a darkened room.

MMORPGs are like porn - they're entertaining, but I'd rather have sex. :D


Exactly, I haven't played in a long time, but I remember a lot of late nights having a lot of fun, sharing stories, and arguing about the rules. We had one guy that was a pretty inexperienced DM. That made for hillarious nights. Once he got a monsters XP confused with HP, so we had to kill something that had 450 HP. :lol:
Computer games don't come close.

I still have all my books .. Got the first printing of all the AD+D stuff from the 70's/80's ( don't remember when they came out). I lost my basic and expert D+D boxed sets though :(

ochre
07-28-2006, 04:48 PM
So, it's obvious that there are only two possibilities regarding you pencil and paper types here. Either you just hate trees, or you are afraid of technology. D&D as a mechanism for greater social interaction? P-Shaw.


:)

Johnny Footstool
07-28-2006, 05:50 PM
So what are you playing, Hero System? M&M? I'll respect your statement so long as you don't say Palladium. :evil:


Hero System, but it's been years since I played. The last campaign I ran was much like the universe in "The Venture Bros." cartoon, except it was 10 years ago. We were a group of patriotic heroes called the United States States' Friends, or USSF. (They used to be called the United States Friends League, but they got sued by a bunch of old football team owners, so they changed it.)


So, it's obvious that there are only two possibilities regarding you pencil and paper types here. Either you just hate trees, or you are afraid of technology. D&D as a mechanism for greater social interaction? P-Shaw.

I'd rather hang out with people I know than jump online and go adventuring with Sven the submissive Norwegian necrophilliac and Larry the child predator who's looking for his next victim.

I meet enough of those types on RedsZone.

Yachtzee
07-28-2006, 07:40 PM
Kitty Pryde.

Rivers Cuomo is rolling over in his grave right now.

Makes more sense if you follow the X-Men.

Kitty Pryde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowcat)

And Nightcrawler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawler_%28comics%29) too!

zombie-a-go-go
07-29-2006, 12:00 PM
I'd rather hang out with people I know than jump online and go adventuring with Sven the submissive Norwegian necrophilliac and Larry the child predator who's looking for his next victim.

I meet enough of those types on RedsZone.

Oh, snap! :D

SteelSD
07-29-2006, 01:21 PM
D&D. Dice chucking goodness. Alas, I gave it up to focus on card flopping (Magic the Gathering). It was too difficult to find folks to play D&D. :(

Falls City Beer
07-29-2006, 03:43 PM
http://www.hammerhed.com/hammerhedlounge/don2.jpg

NEEEERRRDS.

KronoRed
07-29-2006, 03:57 PM
/\
Word.

I on the other hand..am a geek

:D

Dom Heffner
07-29-2006, 09:48 PM
Once he got a monsters XP confused with HP, so we had to kill something that had 450 HP.

I'll bet this is something you tell the ladies.

Redsfan08
07-29-2006, 09:53 PM
Dungeons and Dragons:yikes:

deltachi8
07-30-2006, 08:00 PM
My goodness, i thought the D&D geeks were left in huigh school! Seriously, a dice based fantasy game? Come on!

Excuse me, I'm late for my Strat-o-Matic tourney...

;)

Coffeybro
07-31-2006, 12:06 AM
Wish I lived in Cincy. Also if Todd's weekends were not already taken I'm sure he would be in. :thumbup:

Doc. Scott
07-31-2006, 12:39 AM
Despite what Generation X-ers might think, there are more people playing D&D now than there have ever been. So therefore it's as close to mainstream as ever. (And jokes about it are most of that.)

I recently took the game up again after moving 2,500 miles just as a way of reconnecting with hobbies past and present. (And I figured my significant other could handle it after I watched her literally take over my game of Baldur's Gate II, knowing nothing about game mechanics, and stay up all night beating the expansion pack while I was sleeping.) The last time I'd touched it was nine years and an edition and a half ago. All I'd done was play the occasional PC game (and no, not MMO games, which I find slightly frightening). I'd sold all my books on eBay and dumped several years' worth of multiple magazines.

Despite not being familiar with many of the rule changes and such, it's still the same game I first saw in 1983. Sure, there's the same problems:

-It still attracts the type of people I was trying to escape in high school. I know that sounds contradictory, but there are people out there that are capable of basic social interaction that also happen to be gamers- you just have to search. This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgLOKRl5J0&search=fear%20of%20girls) highly entertaining documentary on YouTube is a good illustration of what I'm talking about.

-It's still marketed at teenagers, even though there are as many older players as there have ever been (because the game is now 30+ years old). Perhaps that's more a problem of the game system, but I don't have enough experience with other systems and companies to really know.

-It's still really expensive. Books are $30-35 now, not $15 or $20. And now that the core rules use miniatures, count on even more cash for those. My eyes bugged out even though I have considerably more spare cash now than I ever did when I was bagging groceries and slinging pizza in high school. Of course, now you can steal PDFs on the Internet to see how good something is before you plunk down the cash for it.

Because the game is still a social experience (unlike MMOs), the quality of your time spent is more or less depends on the quality of your gaming group. If you game with shut-in, speech-impedimented megalomaniacs who are taking out their anger at the world, chances are you'll be left feeling much more negatively about the game than if you find those (sometimes elusive) Regular, Well-Adjusted People. And if you have an inept, ill-prepared, or otherwise unfit Dungeon Master, you're pretty much screwed. So choose wisely.

Fortunately for me, it's all gone pretty well. I like the same things in my gaming that I like in film or fiction- character-driven, lighthearted epics with good continuity. I managed to hit on a good character idea and it's all been quite a good time.

A game that's both good and sophisticated is a truly rare thing, so I hope, Zombie, that you find some new players that can actually breathe through both nose and mouth. Too bad I no longer live in the area.

zombie-a-go-go
07-31-2006, 09:41 AM
A game that's both good and sophisticated is a truly rare thing, so I hope, Zombie, that you find some new players that can actually breathe through both nose and mouth. Too bad I no longer live in the area.

Thanks. That's the primary reason I'm making the offer/request here as opposed to messageboards dedicated to the hobby. Let's just say that recruiting players through those venues have, in the past, attracted people I've been less than hip on spending time with (to put it politely). If I wouldn't go out drinking with them, I sure as hell don't want them in my house. :)

Of course, there are "shut-in, speech-impedimented megalomaniacs who are taking out their anger at the world" on RedsZone too - though RPGs seem to attract the type, they by no means have a monopoly them. ;)

Benny-Distefano
07-31-2006, 02:09 PM
I dunno... online games like Everquest are everything I wanted D&D to be, back when I was playing it in the 1980's.

1. Computer keeps track of stats.
2. Thousands of real people in the gameworld...not just the 5 dorks I always played with.
3. The whole visual thing makes it feel more realistic.

Tons of other reasons.

But hey, whatever floats your boat. But people have LAN parties, y'know. So there is still a way to play online and still interact socially.

It just seems to me that playing dice and book Gygax D&D in this day and age is a bit like installing an 8-track player in your car. Again though...to each their own.

ochre
07-31-2006, 02:13 PM
what server do you play on Benny?

Doc. Scott
07-31-2006, 03:03 PM
I dunno... online games like Everquest are everything I wanted D&D to be, back when I was playing it in the 1980's.

1. Computer keeps track of stats.
2. Thousands of real people in the gameworld...not just the 5 dorks I always played with.
3. The whole visual thing makes it feel more realistic.

Tons of other reasons.

But hey, whatever floats your boat. But people have LAN parties, y'know. So there is still a way to play online and still interact socially.

It just seems to me that playing dice and book Gygax D&D in this day and age is a bit like installing an 8-track player in your car. Again though...to each their own.

Well, I certainly would say MMOs are a way around having no one you know in your geographical area to play D&D with. If that's the problem, then I'd understand pimping MMOs as a worthy replacement.

But I wouldn't say that MMO players are particularly different from the "dorks" you always played with- where do you think the thousands come from? They're a thousand towns' versions of those five dorks.

Even worse, you have to deal with a lot of annoying, monosyllabic 13-year-olds screaming "LOL!" and "PWNED!" at you. If you don't want people like that in your D&D group, there's a way to escape it. Same with goldfarmers- if you're saddled with a Monty Haul powergamer in your D&D group, just eject 'em.

As for computers keeping track of stats, yeah, I agree- but that's what single-player RPGs are for. But you do lose the fun of rolling dice in person and having that fateful 1 or 20 come up just when you were hoping to see the opposite.

I like to have scheduled time set aside for gaming. Every other week, I spend three or four hours. With MMOs, it's very easy to watch them consuming every spare minute you have. And just like with TV or Baldur's Gate or Out of the Park Baseball or anything else that can sneak up on you, the quality of your life doesn't improve by you spending time on it in that fashion. At least not after you're a salary-earning adult with the occasional responsibility.

I don't play computer games as a way to interact with other people- I play them to not have to interact with other people.

Doc. Scott
07-31-2006, 03:05 PM
Thanks. That's the primary reason I'm making the offer/request here as opposed to messageboards dedicated to the hobby. Let's just say that recruiting players through those venues have, in the past, attracted people I've been less than hip on spending time with (to put it politely). If I wouldn't go out drinking with them, I sure as hell don't want them in my house. :)

Of course, there are "shut-in, speech-impedimented megalomaniacs who are taking out their anger at the world" on RedsZone too - though RPGs seem to attract the type, they by no means have a monopoly them. ;)

Yeah, the Yahoo! group through which I found my Portland group has already cycled through a couple of less-than-optimal candidates. Just like with pitching prospects, you have to have patience and realize that not all of 'em are going to justify the development time. ;)

Ltlabner
07-31-2006, 09:20 PM
shut-in, speech-impedimented megalomaniacs who are taking out their anger at the world" on RedsZone too Hey now! I take great pride in being a shut-in!


I don't play computer games as a way to interact with other people- I play them to not have to interact with other people.

AMEN!!!!!

Dom Heffner
07-31-2006, 09:32 PM
This all makes me think of Triumph the insult comic dog standing outside the theater the night one of the Star Wars movies opened.

RFS62
07-31-2006, 10:16 PM
This all makes me think of Triumph the insult comic dog standing outside the theater the night one of the Star Wars movies opened.




That was a great moment in TV history.

"Which button do you press for mommy to come pick you up?"

ochre
07-31-2006, 10:45 PM
see. now all you "monday morning" RPGers are weighing in. What do you guys know about anything. You never even played the game man. Sure you can tell us the number of hit points a halfling fighter starts with, but have you ever stared into the eyes of an angry minotaur? I thought so.

Jeez.

RFS62
07-31-2006, 10:56 PM
see. now all you "monday morning" RPGers are weighing in. What do you guys know about anything. You never even played the game man. Sure you can tell us the number of hit points a halfling fighter starts with, but have you ever stared into the eyes of an angry minotaur? I thought so.

Jeez.



Wow. So you're like the Tracy Jones of the RPG world.

KronoRed
08-01-2006, 02:47 AM
Nah..I bet Mr.O actually played the game WELL

;)

Benny-Distefano
08-01-2006, 09:02 AM
what server do you play on Benny?


I dont play. As much as I was into D&D growing up, as I got older I kind of lost interest.

But my point was that Everquest is everything I wished for from a D&D standpoint growing up. So much so that to me, playing D&D with dice in the 21st century is a bit like using an abacus in a world of calculators.

Again though, to each his/her own.

I play an online game called now called Rakion. It is D&D"ish" I guess, but more of a fighting game than a strategy game. Check it out if you like...its free. :)

zombie-a-go-go
08-01-2006, 09:49 AM
Nah..I bet Mr.O actually played the game WELL

;)

Mr. O is scrappy, I'll give him that. :cool:

REDREAD
08-03-2006, 11:04 AM
see. now all you "monday morning" RPGers are weighing in. What do you guys know about anything. You never even played the game man. Sure you can tell us the number of hit points a halfling fighter starts with, but have you ever stared into the eyes of an angry minotaur? I thought so.

Jeez.

Players nowdays don't respect the tradition of the Kobolds. We played the game the right way. We started at level 1 and worked our way up. Nowdays, players start at level 7 or 10, without EARNING those experience points. I just don't understand how anyone can claim to be a player without paying their dues and slaughtering 400 hapless Kobolds (encountered in nice sized groups of 3 to 6).

When I played, when you reached zero hit points, you were dead. End of story. Today's players are babied. When they reach zero hit points they are only unconscious.

Today's players whine to the DM their hit points, rely too much on magic items, and can't make the routine play to find a secret door. They just aren't scrappy like we were in the old days.

:laugh:

Johnny Footstool
08-03-2006, 11:10 AM
The Keep on the Borderlands. 'Nuff said.

zombie-a-go-go
08-03-2006, 11:56 AM
When I played, when you reached zero hit points, you were dead. End of story. Today's players are babied. When they reach zero hit points they are only unconscious.

Gaining experience points for treasure. Magic-Users, not Wizards and Sorcerers. Clerics don't receive spells at 1st level. Backstab, not Sneak Attack. Nobody gets skills except Thieves (not "Rogues"). Bards were the most powerful class. And when I played, we didn't roll for additional hit points after 9th level - and we liked it! :laugh:

elfmanvt07
07-10-2012, 08:13 AM
Six years and no one has wanted to cast magic missile?

I've recently become interested in the game again, and I was wondering if there was anyone out there who still played? This thread was last updated before 4th edition came out. I think it's safe to say that 4e has caused a huge amount of controversy in tabletop RPGs. I personally find it to be a breath of fresh air, but I think some old school guys find it limiting. Anyone have any thoughts?

In addition, I have been looking into some of the rules for what Wizards is calling D&D Next. So far, I really like what I'm seeing. It's precise and simple. Has anyone else checked it out?

AtomicDumpling
07-11-2012, 06:05 AM
I haven't played since the 1980's, but would consider giving it another go if there were a good group of adults nearby.

I still have about 200 of the 1st Edition and 2nd Edition hardcover rulebooks, several hundred modules and several hundred Dragon Magazines. Don't ask why. Anyone want to buy them from me?

elfmanvt07
07-11-2012, 10:24 PM
The first time I played was with 2nd. I was very young. It really took hold of me around about when 3rd came out. I don't remember anything mechanically about anything before 3rd.