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alloverjr
07-30-2006, 10:39 PM
If I could make only one move between now and 4:00 tomorrow (other than acquiring Webb), I'd bust my tail to move Milton out. With the seemingly high price being paid for pitching, I think there has to be some takers out there for him. We get him off the books for 2007 (although this seems to be less of a mantra with Cast as the prior regime) and we lose a pretty poor performer or at least one so ill-suited for GABP with the potential to get something in return. Now, I have no idea what the specific market would be for an Eric Milton, but if Lopez and Redman are on some teams wish list, then there has to be one. I also don't think this lessens our chances for this year as I think Dumatrait/Germano could give similar results. In all honesty I don't think this is the Reds' year but feel with a few off season moves and promotions, 2007 could be. I shudder to think that next year still has Milton in the rotation. Move him while you have the chance as I don't see him being moved over the Winter.

KalDanielsfan
07-30-2006, 10:41 PM
agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

CRedsLarkin11
07-30-2006, 10:47 PM
No one in their right mind would pay him what we are

thatcoolguy_22
07-30-2006, 10:55 PM
the real problem here is his salary. It would have to be the yankees or the red sox to pick it up. Yankees have a weaker farm system than us and what they do have they will not give up for Jesus incarnate. However the theory is sound. Dump salary and strengthen our farm system for next year but...

Falls City Beer
07-30-2006, 10:57 PM
The Reds would have to give payroll relief to the receiving team. But that's fine; it needs to be done. The Reds need to not have to endure Milton's starts anymore.

PTI (pti)
07-30-2006, 11:12 PM
I've been preaching this all year. And I think there is a market for Milton -> the Yankees. For christ's sake, I even heard last week that the Red Sox were inquiring about Jeremy Affeldt. Ummm...is it his 2/1 walk/strikeout ratio of his 5.91 era that the Sox were getting all excited about??


There are just NO good starters on the market right now. Milton has a terrible contract, but I think the Yankees would take him in a salary dump.


And, here's what I was thinking about today:

Milton and Kearns to New York for prospects (nobody of real significant value) - they would have made that move.

Lopez to Washington for Bill Bray.



I really think Krivsky could have pulled that off. Then we go into 2007 with a payroll of < $60 million, have enough money to sign Aaron Harang to a 3-year deal and go out and get another quality starter. Oh well....:(

fearofpopvol1
07-30-2006, 11:15 PM
Milton has been terrible and is way overpaid, but who are you going to have replace him for this season in the rotation (especially if the Reds don't acquire another pitcher before the deadline)?

Rob Dicken
07-30-2006, 11:18 PM
I've been preaching this all year. And I think there is a market for Milton -> the Yankees. For christ's sake, I even heard last week that the Red Sox were inquiring about Jeremy Affeldt. Ummm...is it his 2/1 walk/strikeout ratio of his 5.91 era that the Sox were getting all excited about??


There are just NO good starters on the market right now. Milton has a terrible contract, but I think the Yankees would take him in a salary dump.


And, here's what I was thinking about today:

Milton and Kearns to New York for prospects (nobody of real significant value) - they would have made that move.

Lopez to Washington for Bill Bray.



I really think Krivsky could have pulled that off. Then we go into 2007 with a payroll of < $60 million, have enough money to sign Aaron Harang to a 3-year deal and go out and get another quality starter. Oh well....:(

I understand your intentions. But do you honestly think New York would take on all of those guys salaries for two prospects? Probably not. We would have to eat both of them, especially Milton's, and then the trade would have been pretty pointless.

Plus, you don't trade an everyday player and 4th/5th starter for two prospects. That would be worse than what Krivsky did with Washington....not saying it's bad, but it definitely wouldn't be any better.

StillFunkyB
07-30-2006, 11:18 PM
If your going to throw him away, and basically eat his contract, why not just throw him in the pen and use him as a LOOGY?

If he can get a lefthanded bat out once in a while it's alot better than just throwing all that money into the trashcan.

alloverjr
07-30-2006, 11:26 PM
If your going to throw him away, and basically eat his contract, why not just throw him in the pen and use him as a LOOGY?

If he can get a lefthanded bat out once in a while it's alot better than just throwing all that money into the trashcan.

I'm not advocating eating his contract. The Yanks just picked up $30 mil in Abreu alone. I'm not expecting a high return either. I also don't think the Yanks are a trading partner anymore with the trade they made today. The Sox may bite though.

KronoRed
07-30-2006, 11:27 PM
Who would want him?

corkedbat
07-30-2006, 11:27 PM
I think most would move Milton, but in order to be a mover you must first find a movee. Therein lies the rub.

Gallen5862
07-30-2006, 11:27 PM
This was another pitcher that was traded to the Redsox. Trot Nixon was hurt tonight. The Redsox are looking for an outfielder and starting pitching. Would a Wise and Milton package at least get some prospects?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=2534762&type=story

BoSox get Rangers reliever Corey for minor-leaguer

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Associated Press

ARLINGTON, Texas -- The Texas Rangers traded right-handed reliever Bryan Corey to the Boston Red Sox on Sunday for minor league pitcher Luis Mendoza.

Bryan Corey
Relief Pitcher
Texas Rangers

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2006 SEASON STATISTICS
GM W L BB K ERA
16 1 1 8 13 2.60



Corey was designated for assignment Tuesday when the Rangers activated starting pitcher Adam Eaton from the disabled list. Corey was 1-1 with a 2.60 ERA in 16 appearances for Texas after his contract was purchased from Triple-A Oklahoma on June 9.


Mendoza was 1-5 with a 6.38 ERA in nine starts for Double-A Portland after starting the season at Class-A Wilmington, where he went 5-4 with a 3.14 ERA in 13 starts. The Rangers will send the right-hander to Class-A Bakersfield.

To make room for Corey on the 40-man roster, the Red Sox transferred Matt Clement from the 15-day disabled list to the 60-day list. Clement has been on the DL with a right shoulder strain since June 16 (retroactive to June 15). He is 5-5 with a 6.61 ERA in 12 starts this season.


Before joining the Rangers this season, the 32-year-old Corey had appeared in only four major league games, with no decisions. His last game was for the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2002 after he pitched three games for Arizona -- and current Rangers manager Buck Showalter -- in 1998.


Corey went to spring training this year with the Chicago Cubs, but was cut before signing with the Rangers as a minor league free agent.


"It's amazing how the last five months have gone," Corey said. "I had a hard time finding a job to where I am now. ... It's exciting."


Corey's only two major league decisions came at Fenway Park, a win against the Red Sox on June 10 and a loss on July 20.

Jpup
07-30-2006, 11:34 PM
The Red Sox have better options elsewhere IMO.

KoryMac5
07-30-2006, 11:37 PM
I think we all have to face the cold hard facts here Milton is not getting moved. I believe mgmt wants to keep a lefty starter in the rotation and without knowing the status of Claussen they would much rather hold onto Milton.

Redsfan08
07-30-2006, 11:41 PM
Milton was our only starter to beat the Brewers this past series

jack mckeon
07-30-2006, 11:42 PM
In all honesty I don't think this is the Reds' year but feel with a few off season moves and promotions, 2007 could be. I shudder to think that next year still has Milton in the rotation. Move him while you have the chance as I don't see him being moved over the Winter.[/QUOTE]

This is completely against the new ownership's position. We are striking sitance from the central and leading the WC, and to give away Milton in what sounds like nothing more than a salary dump would be tremendously dissapointing. Sure Milton has had his problems, and makes a lot of green, but we're looking to add arms, not subtract and build for the future. Like it or not, my guess is Milton is here to stay; if he gets his velocity back up who knows if he can't help the team make a pennant run.

alloverjr
07-31-2006, 12:33 AM
and to give away Milton in what sounds like nothing more than a salary dump would be tremendously dissapointing. Sure Milton has had his problems, and makes a lot of green, but we're looking to add arms, not subtract and build for the future.

It would be more of a crap dump (I know, redundant). The salary relief would be but a bonus. And, I would include this under the category of "addition by subtraction". Nothing would dissapoint me more than for him to pitch for the Reds in 2007, but would concur with most that this scenario is most likely.

Stingray
07-31-2006, 12:44 AM
Yes - pay part of his salary, if necessary, and put to difference in scouting. Also get a manager who knows to pinch hit for Castro with only two outs left in the 9th with the tying run on base.