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5TimeWSChamps
07-31-2006, 10:34 PM
Just sick, and the sick part is that anyone could have had him pre-2003. The Twins just gave up on him

2 on tonight in the Bottom of the 9th, down 8-6 to Cleveland; hits a 3 run walkoff homer again.

:eek:

flyer85
07-31-2006, 10:36 PM
People would pitch around him if he didn't have Manny behind him.

ThatPitchIsDunn
07-31-2006, 10:37 PM
That was freakin ridiculous. It seriously was like slow motion when the Indians reliever threw that pitch.

I think that's his sixth walk off hit of the year. Just unbelievable. Think the Twins are kickin themselves at all?

thatcoolguy_22
07-31-2006, 10:39 PM
and the twins let him go without a fight... tsst tsst.

Cedric
07-31-2006, 10:44 PM
Well they didn't know he would get on that amazing Boston drug plan.

Manny Alexander was the first in the Dominican drug train up there.

GoGoWhiteSox
08-01-2006, 12:27 AM
I would still pitch around Ortiz to face Manny. Facing Manny is bad, but Ortiz is unreal in clutch situations. I would just take my chances with Manny.

KalDanielsfan
08-01-2006, 12:30 AM
agreed. what he does in the clutch is unreal. he comes thru EVERYTIME he's put in a walk off situation.

SMcGavin
08-01-2006, 02:43 PM
Adam Dunn vs. David Ortiz

Late innings of close games:
Ortiz 10-35 (.286 AVG), .375 OBP, .657 SLG, 4 HR, 11 RBI, 6 R
Dunn 14-38(.368 AVG), .510 OBP, .658 SLG, 3 HR, 10 RBI, 9 R


Runners in scoring position:
Ortiz: .306 AVG, .421 OBP, .587 SLG
Dunn: .256 AVG, .421 OBP, .640 SLG

The RISP counting stats:
Ortiz (in 152 plate appearances with RISP): 9 HR, 65 RBI, 46 R
Dunn (in 114 plate appearances with RISP): 10 HR, 46 RBI, 47 R

So if you normalize it down to per 100 plate appearances with RISP:
Ortiz 6 HR, 42 RBI, 30 R
Dunn 9 HR, 40 RBI, 41 R

The David Ortiz worship has got to stop. He's a really good hitter, he continues being good at the end of games, just like he is at the beginning. The "clutchness" is so overblown by the media it drives me nuts.

Matt700wlw
08-01-2006, 02:44 PM
The David Ortiz worship has got to stop. He's a really good hitter, he continues being good at the end of games, just like he is at the beginning. The "clutchness" is so overblown by the media it drives me nuts.

If he wasn't a Red Sock, he wouldn't get the attention.

With that, he's still one of the biggest clutch hitters in the game today. if not THE biggest.

TC81190
08-01-2006, 03:04 PM
Adam Dunn vs. David Ortiz

Late innings of close games:
Ortiz 10-35 (.286 AVG), .375 OBP, .657 SLG, 4 HR, 11 RBI, 6 R
Dunn 14-38(.368 AVG), .510 OBP, .658 SLG, 3 HR, 10 RBI, 9 R


Runners in scoring position:
Ortiz: .306 AVG, .421 OBP, .587 SLG
Dunn: .256 AVG, .421 OBP, .640 SLG

The RISP counting stats:
Ortiz (in 152 plate appearances with RISP): 9 HR, 65 RBI, 46 R
Dunn (in 114 plate appearances with RISP): 10 HR, 46 RBI, 47 R

So if you normalize it down to per 100 plate appearances with RISP:
Ortiz 6 HR, 42 RBI, 30 R
Dunn 9 HR, 40 RBI, 41 R

The David Ortiz worship has got to stop. He's a really good hitter, he continues being good at the end of games, just like he is at the beginning. The "clutchness" is so overblown by the media it drives me nuts.

Actually the Adam Dunn worship has to stop.

Matt700wlw
08-01-2006, 03:09 PM
Actually the Adam Dunn worship has to stop.

Dunn rules too....but he ain't no Poppi ;)

TC81190
08-01-2006, 03:10 PM
Dunn rules too....but he ain't no Poppi ;)

Exactly.

SMcGavin
08-01-2006, 03:21 PM
Actually the Adam Dunn worship has to stop.

My post has very little to do with Adam Dunn. The point is that it's not an amazing feat for a good hitter to continue hitting well in the clutch, just as they do in any other situation. If you'd like you could do this exercise with Berkman, Pujols, Beltran, whoever. I used Dunn because I'm a Reds fan and I thought to look up his stats first. I also used Dunn because it helps make my point when a guy who is generally ridiculed for his lack of clutch production and the so called "King of Clutch" are putting up nearly identical numbers in "clutch" situations.

cincrazy
08-01-2006, 03:37 PM
Sometimes number's don't tell the whole story. Big Papi is absolutely unreal in the clutch, and IMO there's no one really close. Some of the stats are identical, but there's no one else in the game of baseball I'd rather have up with the game on the line than Ortiz.