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reds44
08-01-2006, 12:28 AM
6-4 Nationals, man on 3rd with 0 outs in the 7th.

reds44
08-01-2006, 12:31 AM
1 pitch 1 out.

runner at 3rd

reds44
08-01-2006, 12:35 AM
walks bonds

fly out to Soriano, Visquel out at home.

1 IP, 0 H, 1 BB

Cedric
08-01-2006, 01:01 AM
Bowden wants so badly to prove that he can save Wagner. He rushed him once, why not again?

CTA513
08-01-2006, 01:01 AM
The Nationals put him back out for a second inning after the Nationals took a 10-4 lead.

To start off the next inning Wagner hit the 1st batter and the next batter singled.

Tornon
08-01-2006, 01:02 AM
And his pic still has that same goofy smile..

CTA513
08-01-2006, 01:03 AM
And his pic still has that same goofy smile..

Its probably an old picture of him with a Nationals hat edited on.

reds44
08-01-2006, 01:09 AM
he gave up a bunch of hits walks and 2 runs.

Leaves the game with runners on 2nd and 3rd.

Cedric
08-01-2006, 01:10 AM
He looked absolutely horrible. I have no idea how someone that was pitching that bad only two weeks ago could be thought of as help.

That's Jimbo.

reds44
08-01-2006, 01:12 AM
Durham singles

1.2 IP 3 ER for Wagner

he is responsible for the runner on 3rd.

mbgrayson
08-01-2006, 01:14 AM
Wags final line tonight:
1 and 2/3 innings, 2 hits, 2 walks, 3 earned runs, and 0 Ks.

His ERA for 2006 in MLB is now: 16.20

Cedric
08-01-2006, 01:15 AM
Wags final line tonight:
1 and 2/3 innings, 2 hits, 2 walks, 2 earned runs, and 0 Ks.

His ERA for 2006 in MLB is now: 10.80

Actually 3 runs and possibly 4.

toledodan
08-01-2006, 01:16 AM
his pitches were moving all over the place tonight. the backdoor cutter was really good but couldn't throw anything else for strikes. sometimes his great movement on the pitches becomes his downfall.

CTA513
08-01-2006, 01:16 AM
I dont know how many runs will be earned because Lopez made a throwing error when the bases were loaded.

Bottom 8TH B:1 S:0 O:1
Mark Sweeney grounds into a force out, first baseman Nick Johnson to shortstop Felipe Lopez. Shea Hillenbrand scores. Pedro Feliz scores. Todd Greene out at 2nd. Mark Sweeney advances to 1st, on throwing error by shortstop Felipe Lopez.

reds44
08-01-2006, 01:17 AM
Bonds flies out to the wall.

Wagner's final line:

1.2 IP, 3 ER, 2 H, 2 BB

reds44
08-01-2006, 01:18 AM
I dont know how many runs will be earned because Lopez made a throwing error when the bases were loaded.

Bottom 8TH B:1 S:0 O:1
Mark Sweeney grounds into a force out, first baseman Nick Johnson to shortstop Felipe Lopez. Shea Hillenbrand scores. Pedro Feliz scores. Todd Greene out at 2nd. Mark Sweeney advances to 1st, on throwing error by shortstop Felipe Lopez.
I don't think that is possible. You can't assume a double play.

icehole3
08-01-2006, 04:07 AM
If I remember the book on Wagner was, lay of anything that looks like a breaking pitch because it will be a ball.

Team Clark
08-01-2006, 09:48 AM
I watched him pitch against SF on TV last night. Wow was he horrible. He's worse than when I saw him in Louisville. His follow through is going to get his arm hurt. WOW!!

Johnny Footstool
08-01-2006, 10:14 AM
A little schadenfreude is good for the soul, I guess.

westofyou
08-01-2006, 10:22 AM
A little schadenfreude is good for the soul, I guess.
Then they should save a little for the Giants relief corp, they had a stretch during the Nats rally that they threw 10-11 straight balls... it was painful to watch, both teams didn't want it and both teams dodn't want to give it up.

Wagner, was wild low and away, trying his best to not be wild in the zone.

He always had good movement, and he had it again last night.

Dunner44
08-01-2006, 10:27 AM
A little schadenfreude is good for the soul, I guess.


cue the Avenue Q cast!


GARY AND NICKY:
Schadenfreude!

GARY COLEMAN:
People taking pleasure in your pain!

NICKY:
Oh, Schadenfreude, huh?
What's that, some kinda Nazi word?

GARY COLEMAN:
Yup! It's German for "happiness at the misfortune of others!"

NICKY:
"Happiness at the misfortune of others." That is German!

REDREAD
08-01-2006, 12:19 PM
He looked absolutely horrible. I have no idea how someone that was pitching that bad only two weeks ago could be thought of as help.

That's Jimbo.

I don't necessarily agree. According to Wagner's side of the story, the Reds made him do all kinds of changes. The Nationals told him to go back to his old ways (like college). IIRC, Wagner had six scoreless innings or appearances in AAA after a rough start. Wagner probably feels as though he was screwed over by the Reds.

Not a bad idea to reward Wagner's progress in AAA and bring him up to the majors and then put him in low pressure situations (like tonight when it's 10-4). The Nationals are rebuilding anyhow, it's not going to kill them if Wagner blows a couple games. The payoff is maybe Wagner feels wanted/appreciated and is more motivated to work.

Because before the Reds started messing with Wagner, he was a good pitcher. As long as his arm is healthy, I figure he's got about a 50% chance of at least being an average reliever. He'll probably never be the closer that it was hoped he'd be, but average relievers are useful.

REDREAD
08-01-2006, 12:20 PM
A little schadenfreude is good for the soul, I guess.


That's a word I hadn't heard in a while, but yeah, I agree.

CTA513
08-02-2006, 06:06 PM
Wagner is pitching the 7th inning for the Nationals.
He gave up a homerun to Moises Alou and just gave up another homerun to Shea Hillenbrand.

westofyou
08-02-2006, 06:07 PM
Wagner is pitching the 7th inning for the Nationals.
He gave up a homerun to Moises Alou and just gave up another homerun to Shea Hillenbrand.
I cut Alou today from my fantasy team... shoot.

flyer85
08-02-2006, 06:25 PM
IIRC, he has seriously dropped his arm angle from 2003 and his slider has lost it's tilt.