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Matt700wlw
08-03-2006, 03:13 PM
Reds offense: Runs per game
Prior to trade (89 games): 5.07 runs
Since trade: (17 games) 3.76
Difference: -1.31 runs per

Reds pitching: Runs allowed per game
Prior to trade: 5.20 runs
Since trade: 4.78 runs
Difference: -.42 runs per game


-Lance's blog.



How do the Reds get that 1 run back?


Well....it's pretty simple. It's in a 23 year old latin kid who plays 3rd base...

reds44
08-03-2006, 03:16 PM
Reds offense: Runs per game
Prior to trade (89 games): 5.07 runs
Since trade: (17 games) 3.76
Difference: -1.31 runs per

Reds pitching: Runs allowed per game
Prior to trade: 5.20 runs
Since trade: 4.78 runs
Difference: -.42 runs per game



How do the Reds get that 1 run back?


Well....it's pretty simple. It's in a 23 year old latin kid who plays 3rd base...
Yep. I have been saying that for a month now.

westofyou
08-03-2006, 03:16 PM
Well....it's pretty simple. It's in a 23 year old latin kid who plays 3rd base...I was thinking about a certain 37 year old myself... that is if we're looking for shoulders to climb on.

Matt700wlw
08-03-2006, 03:18 PM
I was thinking about a certain 37 year old myself... that is if we're looking for shoulders to climb on.


He wouldn't hurt...

flyer85
08-03-2006, 03:20 PM
How do the Reds get that 1 run back?
Don't worry, the improved defense that makes the routine play is going to come through.

There were numerous people that warned that "the trade" had the look of a run deficit.

BRM
08-03-2006, 03:21 PM
There were numerous people that warned that "the trade" had the look of a run deficit.

No way. Kearns and Lopez were dogs, remember?

redsmetz
08-03-2006, 03:22 PM
I was thinking about a certain 37 year old myself... that is if we're looking for shoulders to climb on.

I pointed that out this morning. Griffey has a six game hitting streak, batting .297 or something like that.

oneupper
08-03-2006, 03:29 PM
Check your number, Matt. Doesn't add up for me.
Post ASG RPG looks low. (I got 4.44).

Matt700wlw
08-03-2006, 03:29 PM
Check your number, Matt. Doesn't add up for me.
Post ASG RPG looks low. (I got 4.44).

Not mine :D

BRM
08-03-2006, 03:29 PM
I pointed that out this morning. Griffey has a six game hitting streak, batting .297 or something like that.

Junior's line over the last 7 days: .292/.370/.708.

Matt700wlw
08-03-2006, 03:30 PM
Junior's line over the last 7 days: .292/.370/.708.

I hope he keeps it up.

RedsManRick
08-03-2006, 03:30 PM
What's our OPS from SS & RF since the trade compared to before? I think the fewer runs has as much to do with Junior not hitting and Ross being out as it does the loss of those two.

BRM
08-03-2006, 03:36 PM
What's our OPS from SS & RF since the trade compared to before? I think the fewer runs has as much to do with Junior not hitting and Ross being out as it does the loss of those two.

There is nearly a 100 point difference at SS but I think RF is fairly close. Clayton has a .650 OPS as a Red. That's "black hole" territory.

Puffy
08-03-2006, 03:39 PM
Reds offense: Runs per game
Prior to trade (89 games): 5.07 runs
Since trade: (17 games) 3.76
Difference: -1.31 runs per

Reds pitching: Runs allowed per game
Prior to trade: 5.20 runs
Since trade: 4.78 runs
Difference: -.42 runs per game


-Lance's blog.



How do the Reds get that 1 run back?


Well....it's pretty simple. It's in a 23 year old latin kid who plays 3rd base...

Voodoo math - the Reds are a better team now. I know this because when i pointed out how I hated the trade people told me the Reds were a better team, so it has to be true.

Matt700wlw
08-03-2006, 03:44 PM
See tonight's lineup...


It may finally be coming together...

If so, and the improved bullpen proves to be so, this team may be ok.

BuckWoody
08-03-2006, 03:47 PM
See tonight's lineup...


It may finally be coming together...

If so, and the improved bullpen proves to be so, this team may be ok.
Interesting. I'll be heading down to check it out.

Freel RF
Hatteberg 1B
Griffey CF
Dunn LF
Aurilia 2B
Encarnacion 3B
Valentin C
Clayton SS
Milton P

jmcclain19
08-03-2006, 03:53 PM
Check your number, Matt. Doesn't add up for me.
Post ASG RPG looks low. (I got 4.44).

Likewise.

The difference isn't even close to as pronounced when you use the correct numbers

westofyou
08-03-2006, 03:58 PM
Likewise.

The difference isn't even close to as pronounced when you use the correct numbers
Does that still make me wrong for not wanting to kill myself over the deal? :evil:

Red Rover
08-03-2006, 04:00 PM
Team OPS of .793 before the break
Team OPS of .807 since the break

OPS is better, but scoring less runs

BuckWoody
08-03-2006, 04:11 PM
Here's what I come up with, just to confuse things more.

Pre-trade (89 games) 450 for - 464 against averages = 5.06-5.21
Post-Trade (18 games) 80 for - 86 against averages = 4.44-4.78

So they're scoring .62 runs less and giving up .43 less.

Red Rover
08-03-2006, 04:17 PM
Starters ERA berore break = 4.62
Starters ERA since break = 5.04

BPs ERA before break = 5.13
BPs ERA since break = 3.53

Sea Ray
08-03-2006, 04:23 PM
Maybe the discrepancy comes from since the break vs since the trade?

Red Rover
08-03-2006, 04:48 PM
Maybe the discrepancy comes from since the break vs since the trade?

Maybe the problem lies in which trade Lance is talking about?

fisch11
08-03-2006, 07:44 PM
Chris Denorfia invented baseball statistics.