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runfreelrun
08-05-2006, 09:43 AM
Why not give a Castro more of a shot of playing more then just the late innings. His bat has been strong since coming back to the reds and we all know that "manos de oro" can pick it anywhere he plays. I am a firm believer that if Aurilla or EE are playing 3b we need Castro as SS to help take away balls in the hole and solidify the left side of the infield, since we all know Clayton has no range. I think that Castro could produce more offensively then Clayton, with more power and adds a much better glove to the equation.

Always Red
08-05-2006, 10:57 AM
Are we sure that Castro has more range than Clayton? There seems to be some disagreement on the board about that. :dunno: No question Castro has great hands; whatever he can get to is usually a sure out.

Castro's range factor at SS is much lower than Clayton's, for every year but last year, and for his career as well:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/castrju01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/claytro01.shtml

LINEDRIVER
08-05-2006, 11:42 AM
Castro can't play more at SS because Clayton has to play in an effort to help justify trading Kearns & FeLo.

Narron covers Krivsky's rear-end by playing Clayton as much as he does.

Thru Friday August 4, Gary Majewski's stats since coming to Cincy include a 10.12 ERA and a 2.50 WHIP. Yikes!!!

Perhaps Majewski can get hot allowing Clayton to sit a bit more? Castro is the steadier hand. Bad throws and bad playmaking would be very infrequent if Castro were handling the position.

TDHND
08-05-2006, 11:44 AM
Thats why you move Phillips to short,Rich to second,and let Edwin play everyday at 3rd.

kbrake
08-05-2006, 11:47 AM
Thats putting quite a bit on the shoulders of Phillips. Dont you think your asking a lot of someone to ask him to switch positions in the middle of a playoff race?

TexasRed
08-05-2006, 11:50 AM
I agree........... Did you all see the double play he started last night to end the game! I cannot quote feilding stats but from watching him play he sure looks like he is quite an upgrade over Clayton. OTOH, from watching Clayton (lack of range, errors, blowing bubbles, etc.) I simply cannot buy the "defensive upgrade" (over FeLo) sales pitch............... Not to beat a dead horse but I sure miss him at SS.

TDHND
08-05-2006, 11:52 AM
Hasn't Phillips been a ss before though? I thought he's had some hystery at ss.I'm just trying to figure out a way to get Edwin in the lineup every night since they seem to want to play Rich every night too.

Redhook
08-05-2006, 11:53 AM
Thats putting quite a bit on the shoulders of Phillips. Dont you think your asking a lot of someone to ask him to switch positions in the middle of a playoff race?

I think he's definitely talented enough. He also has that relaxed, care-free personality which I think would allow him to make the transition without putting too much pressure on himself. He's played alot of games at SS in the minors. And I think he would make the switch if Narron asked him. Phillips seems to be a team player and I think he would love the challenge of moving to SS. It's the most important position on the field and he's our best fielder, I think it's a perfect match.

TDHND
08-05-2006, 11:55 AM
I'm glad someone agrees with me. Phillips is a great fielder and I think he could play there. The only way Edwin will get better is if he's playing every night.

kbrake
08-05-2006, 11:59 AM
I have no doubt that I think Phillips can play SS, I just think it would really be tough in the middle of a season. I think Phillips will be the SS next season, I just dont think it would be real easy for anyone to make that kind of chance mid season.

TDHND
08-05-2006, 12:02 PM
Yeah I understand what you mean about a position change now,but what just a thought. I figured we'd better the club that way.

kbrake
08-05-2006, 12:04 PM
Yeah if Phillips could make the switch without trouble the team would benefit I think a great deal, I just fear he would have some trouble.

Redhook
08-05-2006, 12:09 PM
Yeah if Phillips could make the switch without trouble the team would benefit I think a great deal, I just fear he would have some trouble.

He might have some trouble, but what if he didn't? Why not try it for a game? If it doesn't work, send him back to 2nd and wait until next year. If it does work, try it for another game. Then another. If he can go a few games without making an error and looks good, I think he could stay there for the remainder of the year. I say give it a shot, you don't know until you try it.

TDHND
08-05-2006, 12:11 PM
Yeah why not try it a few games here and there and see what happens. You never know what could happen. If they want to have Rich's bat in the lineup every night then they could have it,plus Edwin's every night as well.

joshnky
08-05-2006, 12:28 PM
I just want to point out that while Clayton was far from exceptional last night he did have a nice over the shoulder catch (on a similar play Marcus Giles dove and landed about 5 feet from the ball) and he did hit a much needed 2-run homer. I despise Clayton as much as everyone else on this board, but he seems to be getting the Redszone Whipping Boy treatment and very little benefit of the doubt around here. Just saying.

pahster
08-05-2006, 12:35 PM
Hasn't Phillips been a ss before though? I thought he's had some hystery at ss.I'm just trying to figure out a way to get Edwin in the lineup every night since they seem to want to play Rich every night too.

106 games at SS last year in AAA.

TDHND
08-05-2006, 12:36 PM
Ok then let's start playing him at ss.

fearofpopvol1
08-05-2006, 01:48 PM
I said this in another thread and I'll say it again.

Folks, they're not going to move Brandon Phillips to SS in the middle of the season!! It will NOT happen. He's playing too well at 2B and moving to SS is not an easy transition and definitely not while we're in the middle of a playoff race. Have you ever played ball at the high school level or above? If you haven't, it's not easy unless you're a utility player (which most people aren't). It's a completely different mindset than 2B is. Natural position or not, Brandon has logged ONE game at SS in the majors. That's just asking for more mental mistakes and errors. It won't happen.

MaineRed
08-05-2006, 02:38 PM
He might have some trouble, but what if he didn't? Why not try it for a game? If it doesn't work, send him back to 2nd and wait until next year. If it does work, try it for another game. Then another. If he can go a few games without making an error and looks good, I think he could stay there for the remainder of the year. I say give it a shot, you don't know until you try it.

Maybe we should let Adam Dunn pitch in long relief too.

How about Clayton at catcher?

Come on Narron, you never know unless you try.

TDHND
08-05-2006, 02:54 PM
What the? The stuff you mention MaineRed would never happen and moving BP to short could and will hopefully.

MaineRed
08-05-2006, 02:59 PM
I was joking!

TDHND
08-05-2006, 02:59 PM
I know. I was just giving you a hard time.

redbuck
08-05-2006, 06:24 PM
I agree with Castro at SS more often. I started a similar post last week. Not necessarily our "every day" SS, but Castro should DEFINITELY be playing more than Royce.

Castro (or, as Thom Brennamen likes to call him, Juan Kos-tro) is much better defensively and at this point in their careers at least equally as good offensively. I really don't put much stock in career numbers with Clayton given that he's been in the Majors for 16 years and his body is clearly breaking down. Castro is younger and is at the peak of his career. It's not a very tall peak, granted, but he is clearly better than Clayton from my point of view. I vote for Castro 60 percent of the games, and Clayton 40.

And I completely agree that you can't move Brandon Phillips to SS in the middle of the season. Yes, he did play the position in high school and in the minors, and yes he COULD do it for the Reds this year, but there is no way it will or should happen.

Ravenlord
08-05-2006, 06:29 PM
am i the only one who thinks that Phillips would rather be at short than at second?

pahster
08-05-2006, 07:10 PM
I imagine that he probably would rather play SS, but you never know. I've always preferred RF to LF and CF.