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NJReds
08-08-2006, 02:38 PM
Interesting idea. I like the phone number.

Bengals fans who spot bad behavior can call hotline
Posted 8/8/2006 10:00 AM ET
By Barrett J. Brunsman, The Cincinnati Enquirer

link (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bengals/2006-08-08-fan-hotline_x.htm?csp=34)

CINCINNATI If you act like a jerk at Paul Brown Stadium this Sunday, somebody with better manners could end up in your seat for the rest of the Bengals' home games.

All it would take is a phone call.

The football team has set up a telephone hotline 513-381-JERK (5375) that fans with cellphones will be able to call to report obnoxious behavior in the stands.

Those who use excessive foul language will be warned. If they persist, they risk being ejected from the game and having their season tickets and seat licenses revoked. Those who behave worse might also be arrested and jailed.

The Bengals won't target a fan who lets an expletive slip should quarterback Carson Palmer be sacked or a pass intended for wide receiver Chad Johnson be intercepted, said Bob Bedinghaus, the team's director of development for Paul Brown Stadium.

"We're not going to be the curse police. You need to understand you're coming to an NFL football game," Bedinghaus said. "On the other hand, we want to make sure that we're paying attention to those folks who are going over the line."

The stadium's 38 video cameras will enable security officials to focus on people who are reported to the jerk line.

Some of the more than 500 security and police officers who work each game will respond.

"We have more than enough cameras to zoom in on every position in the seating bowl close enough that we can clearly get photographic images of the people sitting there," Bedinghaus said.

Beer is fueling the problem, fans have complained to team officials. It has escalated in the past three years, as more young adults have packed the stadium because of the Bengals' improved performance.

"They were complaints (of) excessive drunkenness. People that were kind of falling down drunk," Bedinghaus said. "And there were some fights last year. Whenever you put 65,000 people together, you're always going to have some fights. But there were a few more than normal."

Drunks have offended people such as Jeanie Dittrich of West Chester, Ohio, who took her son, Austin, 12, to the January playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

"All he wanted for Christmas was a playoff ticket," said Dittrich, 42, a season ticket-holder who usually goes to games with her husband, Gary, 44.

Her son had never attended a game at Paul Brown Stadium.

"We told him beforehand, 'You might see some drunk people, you might hear some F-words and swearing.' But at the game, I thought, 'Oh, my gosh, I'm going to mar my son for the rest of his life by having him come to this game.' It was so bad."

Usually, she said, people who sit near her along a goal line in the lower section don't act that way. But many of them apparently had sold their tickets to people who were wearing Pittsburgh jerseys.

Drunk from the start

"At kickoff time, people were just sloppy drunk," Dittrich said. "I was really concerned for my son to see all this."

Security removed some people in front of them, she said. A woman next to Dittrich kept spilling beer on her. "And there was some inebriated guy next to my son. And he kept just swearing, and then he kept apologizing to him. And he helped start one of the fights."

The Bengals hope the hotline will curb such boorish behavior, as well as people who throw things in the stands or onto the field.

Bedinghaus said unruly fans have been an issue nationwide and that Paul Brown Stadium is more fan-friendly than most.

But "one thing that has been a consistent problem ... for the last three or four years is the issue of foul language at football games," Bedinghaus said.

The Bengals will notify season ticket-holders this week about the jerk line and the consequences of misbehaving. The team also plans to produce a video that will air during home games to tout the hotline.

According to the National Football League, it's up to the 32 teams to deal with unruly fans. Policies and procedures vary by stadium.

The team expects some crank calls to the jerk line.

"You can get a lot of abuse with these things," Bedinghaus said. "If you get 6,000 people calling this line 'Hey, Ben Roethlisberger is a jerk' then it becomes less effective. The thing to remember is we have caller ID on this line. So if you're crank calling, we are going to be able to ID who you are."

Dittrich said she and her husband will continue to go to Bengals games. While leery about taking any of her four children, she welcomes the hotline to report jerks.

"I would definitely use it if I saw cause for it," she said. "I'm glad they're rethinking the whole alcohol issue and trying to get people to be smarter about it."

RedsBaron
08-08-2006, 02:42 PM
Good idea. The Bengals may also need to have a "jerk hotline" to report misconduct by Bengal players.........naw, the line would short circuit, if this offseason is any indication.;)

NJReds
08-08-2006, 02:46 PM
The Reds should use that number during the season for people to complain about Narron's lineups. ;)

Chainer
08-08-2006, 02:55 PM
Steeler fans are like the Cubs fans of the NFL.

RedsBaron
08-08-2006, 03:09 PM
Steeler fans are like the Cubs fans of the NFL.
I hate the Steelers, but, unlike the Cubs, the Steelers do win titles on occassion.

Puffy
08-08-2006, 04:06 PM
The Jerk Store called, said they are running out of you.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/825505/costanzanaked.jpg

KronoRed
08-08-2006, 04:34 PM
I hate the Steelers, but, unlike the Cubs, the Steelers do win titles on occassion.
Yep, no goats in Pittsburgh either

BUTLER REDSFAN
08-08-2006, 04:48 PM
yes-is this the jerk line--i'd like to report a drunk guy driving a boat near the field level, oh wait i mean i'd like to report a guy giving booze to 3 underage cheerleaders, uh wait, i mean i'd like to report a possible rape in the end zone,uh wait, i'd like to report a fan who wont move his car from the field, uh wait.....................and we're going after the fans??????????????

Yachtzee
08-08-2006, 05:42 PM
"JERK STORE!" :)

I wonder what the ticket brokers will do, considering they will be responsible for the behavior those to whom they sell their tickets.

I think its a good idea. I would never take a kid to an NFL game in today's climate.

SunDeck
08-08-2006, 05:45 PM
Jerk line? Sure. But, if they want to make a difference, they should also stop selling beer after the first half and enforce the open container law out in the parking lots. Oh, but then I guess that would reduce revenue and make fans mad.
I've been tailgating for twenty years and it's gotten worse and worse. Now, it seems like the point of going down early is to get as smashed as you can before the game. When I was a kid, my dad had no problem taking me to games. Can't say the same now. No way will I take my boy to a game until he's had time to develop the vocabulary on his own.

Hoosier Red
08-08-2006, 05:52 PM
What I liked was the article featuring a 12 year old and the mom worried about scarring him

I'm going to guess this isn't the first time he'd heard those words.

camisadelgolf
08-08-2006, 06:04 PM
In other words, this is the number to call to report Steelers fans to security. :beerme:

Roy Tucker
08-08-2006, 06:15 PM
Yeah, I was worried about taking my then-10 yr. old son to a Bengals game. I told him he might hear some bad words.

No sooner had we sat down than some orange afro-ed dude launches into a f-bomb laden tirade about the opponent of that day. My son's eyes got very wide.

I wouldn't mind it if they instituted something like this at the Reds game. I really hate it when a.) someone continually lets fly with some really foul language, and b.) they want to get into a fist fight when I say something to them about it.

I'm no prude, but I'd like a ballgame to be PG-rated instead of R. And I'd settle for PG-13.

Heath
08-08-2006, 06:18 PM
I take my smaller boys to the preseason games. Folks aren't as toasted and more polite. Plus, the stands are hardly full and at my boys' age, they could care less if Carson Palmer or Wiki Watchee starts at QB.

rodgiep
08-08-2006, 09:19 PM
If they had this last year, how many calls would've come in for that jerk Kimo von Olhoffen?

:)

deltachi8
08-08-2006, 10:56 PM
In other words, this is the number to call to report Steelers fans to security. :beerme:

hey sell your stadium out and you won't have to worry about perksy steeler fans and their trophies

;)

SeeinRed
08-08-2006, 10:58 PM
hey sell your stadium out and yount have to worry about perksy steeler fans and their trophies


Done... whats the next step to gettin rid of em?:D

SunDeck
08-09-2006, 08:23 AM
In other words, this is the number to call to report Steelers fans to security. :beerme:

If only that were true.
My dad got knocked down last year by a guy who started a fight two rows in front of us. Both rows involved were decked out in Bengals jerseys. A couple of them piled on another guy and the whole bunch fell on my dad, who was standing because he didn't want to get crunched if someone came flying back at him. He's a pretty big guy and he just hit the ground like a sack of potatoes. I thought he was out cold, but he ended up being okay, with a knot on his cheekbone.

He's had season tickets since the Bengals played at Nippert and told me that my brothers and I can split the tickets. He said he's done- he's tired of the drunkenness and fighting. And this from a guy who isn't easily offended.

MrCinatit
08-09-2006, 09:13 AM
Good thing they didn't have this a few years back.
Klingler would have been called out after two games.

BuckWoody
08-09-2006, 11:55 AM
If only that were true.
My dad got knocked down last year by a guy who started a fight two rows in front of us. Both rows involved were decked out in Bengals jerseys. A couple of them piled on another guy and the whole bunch fell on my dad, who was standing because he didn't want to get crunched if someone came flying back at him. He's a pretty big guy and he just hit the ground like a sack of potatoes. I thought he was out cold, but he ended up being okay, with a knot on his cheekbone.

He's had season tickets since the Bengals played at Nippert and told me that my brothers and I can split the tickets. He said he's done- he's tired of the drunkenness and fighting. And this from a guy who isn't easily offended.
Unacceptable. I'm glad the team is being proactive about it. Not sure how effective it will be but it's at least an attempt to do something.

We sit up top in the canopy level and there really isn't that much bad behavior that we've witnessed. There is some, no doubt, but it's mainly Bengals' fans getting into it with the enemy fans. I've never seen any Bengal-on-Bengal violence.

registerthis
08-09-2006, 12:11 PM
If only that were true.
My dad got knocked down last year by a guy who started a fight two rows in front of us. Both rows involved were decked out in Bengals jerseys. A couple of them piled on another guy and the whole bunch fell on my dad, who was standing because he didn't want to get crunched if someone came flying back at him. He's a pretty big guy and he just hit the ground like a sack of potatoes. I thought he was out cold, but he ended up being okay, with a knot on his cheekbone.

He's had season tickets since the Bengals played at Nippert and told me that my brothers and I can split the tickets. He said he's done- he's tired of the drunkenness and fighting. And this from a guy who isn't easily offended.

That's ridiculous.

If they were serious about curbing obnoxious/dangerous behavior, like you mentioned, they'd stop selling beer after the second quarter and would deny entry to any visibly intoxicated fans.

There was a fight a few years ago between some Braves and reds fans at a game I went to--opening day, actually. Security was pretty quick to respond. the Braves fan was clearly the aggressor, but some Reds fans more than stepped up to the plate to match him. I'm pretty sure my friends Bud and Miller had something to do with it...

camisadelgolf
08-09-2006, 12:38 PM
If only that were true.
My dad got knocked down last year by a guy who started a fight two rows in front of us. Both rows involved were decked out in Bengals jerseys. A couple of them piled on another guy and the whole bunch fell on my dad, who was standing because he didn't want to get crunched if someone came flying back at him. He's a pretty big guy and he just hit the ground like a sack of potatoes. I thought he was out cold, but he ended up being okay, with a knot on his cheekbone.

He's had season tickets since the Bengals played at Nippert and told me that my brothers and I can split the tickets. He said he's done- he's tired of the drunkenness and fighting. And this from a guy who isn't easily offended.
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. Just to be clear, and it's probably irrelevant, I didn't mean to imply that Steelers fans are unrulier than Bengals fans. I just meant that Bengals fans will probably abuse the hotline to report fans of the other teams that come into the stadium, whether they're misbehaving or not.

Dom Heffner
08-09-2006, 01:12 PM
"We told him beforehand, 'You might see some drunk people, you might hear some F-words and swearing.' But at the game, I thought, 'Oh, my gosh, I'm going to mar my son for the rest of his life by having him come to this game.' It was so bad."

The power we give to 4-letter words will always amuse me.

It's funny how adults try to shield their kids from bad language, yet they heard plenty of bad words while growing up and the effect on them was, well...nothing. In fact, most adults curse pretty regularly themselves.

Ever heard someone who ended up in prison saying, "Man, if only I hadn't been exposed to all those curse words..."

I realize we don't want little kids incorporating the F-bomb into their daily language, but things like language, nudity...these things get so much attention and cause such little damage to anything.

They should install a jerk hotline so that I can call and report a vendor charging $7.00 for a beer. That is more morally corrupt than anything a 7 year old could say or hear. Explaining why gas and parking are so expensive is a much more difficult discussion than explaining the behavior of an idiot.

I do like the idea, though, of having a hotline where dangerous people can be reported. Let's just hope people use this thing for the right reasons.

Someone yelling, "F*** Troy Polamalu" is different than someone getting violent or who just ruins the fan experience, by being drunk or outlandishly rude to other guests, etc.

In fact, I'd argue that the former should get a gold medal for calling it like he sees it. They should set up a hotline for that guy. "Yeah, someone just cursed at Troy Polamalu, and I'd like to buy that guy one of those $12.00 beers you are selling. Just send it over to him courtesy of me."

I know I am going off topic, but man, I'm starting to remember just how much I hate the Steelers. We should start a thread for everyone to list the best reasons to hate that team (although there really isn't a bad reason to hate them, they are all good).

The Bengals are my second favorite team in professional sports behind the team that is playing the Steelers. I don't care if the Bengals go 0-16 as long as the Steelers don't go anywhere.

Roethliberger's motorcycle accident was bad for three reasons: one, he isn't going to miss any playing time, two Bill Cowher wasn't on the back of that thing with Polamalu riding in a side cart like the old Batcycle used to have, and lastly, any time Ben completes a pass to that big headed Hines Ward we are going to have to hear how he is a demi-god for coming back from a "near-death" experience in which he was released from the hospital just a few days later.

If Big Ben hands the ball off correctly, we are going to be forced to watch one of those long ESPN segments that Suzy Kolber does about the dangers of riding without a helmet, when most of the viewing audience would rather see a feature story on how Ward fits that gigantic melon of his into a standard football helmet. I want to see interviews with engineers debating whether or not they should add that missing Steelers decal on the other side of the helmet just to try and hold it together because with Ward's head inside, that thing could blow at anytime.

That team could cure cancer and I'd still hate them.

Polamalu could cut off all his hair and donate it to locks of love and I'd rag on him for having no hair, even though I don't myself.

I'll lower myself to the depths of hypocrisy for that team.

Unless Polamalu ever plays for the Bengals, he is always going to be awful. :)

There is no better time of year anywhere on the planet, and it is almost here.

I need to go burn me some terrible towels.

TeamSelig
08-09-2006, 03:49 PM
Haha, GREAT stuff Dom

deltachi8
08-09-2006, 04:23 PM
Dom, it was nice read. Nice to see passion once in a while, misdirected as it may be. ;)


Yep, kids hear bad words all the time, I did when I was growing up. I went to games with my dad and heard some, but the public drunken bafoons and the alarming amount of violence is what worries me.

I took my son to a game last year ONLY because our ceo gave me her suite tickets. We had a good time, but I would not take him into the seats I can afford.

I just hope the same doesn't happen in baseball and hockey, where I still feel at ease taking my son for a night out.

Now, back to your steeler hating, dom, while I go put on my "Got RIngs" T-shirt. :-)

Dom Heffner
08-09-2006, 09:03 PM
Dom, it was nice read. Nice to see passion once in a while, misdirected as it may be.

That post is like Dennis Rodman. It stinks unless you agree with it lol...

delatachi and Steel (I know you are out there):

Thanks for not taking it the wrong way. I hate that team in a good way. The Steelers haven't had to lose like we have over the past 15 plus years, so you might not be able to relate- even when the Steelers are bad, you know they are going to come back. We haven't been able to say that for awhile, and this year I am really not expecting a whole lot.

Hopefully the scheduling gods will have some better luck for us next year, but then that means the Steelers will have an easier go of it as well.

And before people start accusing me of wishing ill will towards Roethlisberger in regards to his accident: I am very happy he didn't sustain major injuries and is healthy.

Otherwise, I wouldn't have him to kick around. :)

Tony Cloninger
08-12-2006, 06:24 PM
Bengals fans, like me, always fear the worst beacuse of 1 man....Mike Brown.

None of his father's eye for talent, IMO.....all of his father's tightness and unable to think outside the box mentality. Paul Brown seemed stuck in the 60's....all through the 70's and 80's, yet the Bengals managed to win beacuse of his eye for talent.

I fear MB sticking his hand in things again......along with the fact he has never been able to channel ANY of the Steelers way of doing business despite the fact their FO might be even more stingy with the dollar than he was.