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keeganbrick
08-12-2006, 12:48 AM
100/1 odds.:luvu:

redsrule2500
08-12-2006, 12:49 AM
I don't even care anymore....I'd go with him.

Why the heck not.

CTA513
08-12-2006, 12:49 AM
Odds are better that someone will be moved up in the rotation or we will get to see Joe Mays again.

Shaknb8k
08-12-2006, 12:49 AM
I was waiting to see how long it would take for this thread to start.....ive done figured it out and i dont think he would be scheduled to pitch until Sunday not Saturday.

RedsFanInMD
08-12-2006, 12:50 AM
Would be nice. Why do I have the bad feeling that the call-up's initials will be JM.

keeganbrick
08-12-2006, 12:50 AM
That would make my weekend if he was actually called up. If he struggles just send him back down, what would it hurt?

Gizmo
08-12-2006, 12:51 AM
That would make my weekend if he was actually called up. If he struggles just send him back down, what would it hurt?
our standings.

OnBaseMachine
08-12-2006, 12:51 AM
Homer pitched on Tuesday, meaning tomorrow would only be three days rest.

keeganbrick
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
our standings.
Inexperienced Homer Bailey > EZ

Reds Fanatic
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
Homer pitched on Tuesday, meaning tomorrow would only be three days rest.
If they would use Homer it would be more likely they move up Sunday's starter a day then maybe use Homer on Sunday.

goreds2
08-12-2006, 12:52 AM
Tracy Jones will decide when Homer comes up. :fineprint

Gizmo
08-12-2006, 12:53 AM
Inexperienced Homer Bailey > EZ


I do agree. The question was "if he struggles, what would it hurt." The answer "our standings" would be valid in that case, barring a major comeback after his struggles.

Playadlc
08-12-2006, 12:53 AM
Why the hell not?

HumnHilghtFreel
08-12-2006, 12:54 AM
Inexperienced Homer Bailey > EZ

You know that from all the Major League hitting he's faced, right?

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 12:54 AM
Screw it. Do it.

RF's plan makes more sense though...pitch Homer Sunday and move the rotation around.

KronoRed
08-12-2006, 12:55 AM
Bad idea, don't make the situation worse by panicking.

keeganbrick
08-12-2006, 12:56 AM
You know that from all the Major League hitting he's faced, right?
He is dominating AA hitters. There really is no point in going to AAA anymore so he justs stays and works on his breaking pitches or comes to the majors and is our Liriano:evil:

CTA513
08-12-2006, 12:57 AM
They would probably bring up Dumatrait before they bring up Bailey.

Newman4
08-12-2006, 12:58 AM
I think desperate teams take desperate measures.....

After watching Harang get hit Wednesday, Arroyo lit up Thursday and EZ get beat twice in a week, Homer could be the spark.

Unassisted
08-12-2006, 01:00 AM
That would make my weekend if he was actually called up. If he struggles just send him back down, what would it hurt?It might wreck the Reds chances in 2011. I'm planning to be around to see that year.

cincy jacket
08-12-2006, 01:02 AM
I'm all for bringing up Homer but not on 3 days rest. Push Uncle Milty's start up to tomorrow and then bring the kid up on Sunday.

Matt700wlw
08-12-2006, 01:03 AM
If Homer pitches Sunday, FSN Ohio's ratings will be through the roof.

keeganbrick
08-12-2006, 01:03 AM
It might wreck the Reds chances in 2011. I'm planning to be around to see that year.
I dont know, do you think 1 possibly premature start would hurt Homer forever? You're probably right, but I just want this team to win right now and I've been waiting for our savior.

cincy jacket
08-12-2006, 01:04 AM
If Homer pitches Sunday, FSN Ohio's ratings will be through the roof.

Heck if they announce tomorrow he is pitching Sunday who's up for a road trip? Philly ain't that far.

Clemson
08-12-2006, 01:12 AM
i'd be willing to bet its michalak tomorrow

CTA513
08-12-2006, 01:13 AM
i'd be willing to bet its michalak tomorrow

Not unless they have an open spot on the 40 man roster.

crazybob60
08-12-2006, 01:14 AM
the only negative with this is that he would then be eligible for Free Agency and/or arbitration sooner then, wouldn't he? Now I am not 100% sure on this, so I could be totally off-base, this is just something I would like to bring to the forefront of this issue and maybe someone out there can explain it in greater detail please, I know I for one would appreciate it!!!!

RedsFanBrooklyn
08-12-2006, 01:19 AM
A little bird told me:

Ramirez will still be the starter tomorrow.

5DOLLAR-BLEACHERBUM
08-12-2006, 01:20 AM
It might wreck the Reds chances in 2011. I'm planning to be around to see that year.
By the time Homer finally comes up, all of our hitters will be retired and homer will go 2-14 with a 1.25 era

Blue
08-12-2006, 01:30 AM
"I'm planning to be around to see that year."

OMG! An optimist!

I don't see any real reason not to bring him up. If he's going to hurt himself, he's going to hurt himself. He has to be called up some time. Our playoff hopes look more grim with each passing day. So many teams to fend off and the Astros are making a run at the division and the wild card.

Still, even if we don't make the playoffs, we should look at this season in context. We are finally moving in the right direction, and a good offseason could turn this team around from being picked to finish last, to being division favorites.

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 01:38 AM
No times infinity to the power of infinity.

deltachi8
08-12-2006, 01:40 AM
No times infinity to the power of infinity.
+1

lets not compound stupidity with idiocy.

SteelSD
08-12-2006, 02:29 AM
+1

lets not compound stupidity with idiocy.

The inverse of infinity times infinity could possibly be one. But not a negative multiplied by infinity to the power of infinity.

:p:

LawFive
08-12-2006, 02:31 AM
A little bird told me:

Ramirez will still be the starter tomorrow.

I'm having a case of deja vu. Didn't he (or someone) throw an inning of mop-up last year, then come back to start the next day? :confused:

realistic
08-12-2006, 02:47 AM
It might wreck the Reds chances in 2011. I'm planning to be around to see that year.


5 years from now is on your mind today? This is modern day MLB, theres a 110% chance the team the Reds field in 2011 will look NOTHING like this team so a move today has NOTHING to do with the 2011 team.

Go look up the 2001 roster and see how many players are still on the 2006 Reds roster. Find me just one team that has a roster from 2001 that compares to same teams 2006 roster.

Im not saying to bring him up, Im just saying 2011 should be of no concern right now.

September for him at the earliest imho.

2001MUgrad
08-12-2006, 03:16 AM
The Reds will activate Joe Nuxhall before we see Homer Bailey this year. WK is quickly starting to seem like Narron's twin brother.

steig
08-12-2006, 10:25 AM
It would be a great time to bring him up for a "cup of coffee" as long as it is just for one start. We don't want him throwing to many innings so early in his career as seen with Minnesota's current situation. Plus he would be available for the playoff roster should we make it and have an injury to one of the pitchers.

Joseph
08-12-2006, 10:44 AM
The only coffee Homer Bailey needs should come from Starbucks.

jamess697
08-12-2006, 11:19 AM
Where is Justin Germano, if we wouldn't have traded him for another Kent Mercker, then he would start. I think that things have to change, do not continue to allow certain guys to lolly gag around, while EE, Hat, and Aurilla are all fighting to get in the game. IT STINKS!

red-in-la
08-12-2006, 12:57 PM
He is dominating AA hitters. There really is no point in going to AAA anymore so he justs stays and works on his breaking pitches or comes to the majors and is our Liriano:evil:

Isn't Liriano now on the DL?

redsfanmia
08-12-2006, 01:22 PM
Isn't Liriano now on the DL?

From an old injury. I cant for the life of me figure out why Homer is not up here now but im not the GM so oh well. By the way:deadhorse

Heath
08-12-2006, 01:27 PM
Homer also requires a 40-man roster move.

It's all moot anyway.

dougdirt
08-12-2006, 01:59 PM
From an old injury. I cant for the life of me figure out why Homer is not up here now but im not the GM so oh well.

Simply because he isnt ready.

redsfanmia
08-12-2006, 02:01 PM
Simply because he isnt ready.
He is at this point has to be better than EZ, but it doesnt matter because He isnt coming up anyway.

dougdirt
08-12-2006, 02:02 PM
That may be true, it may not be. He isnt the type of person you bring up just becuase they are better than someone if they arent ready.

redsfanmia
08-12-2006, 05:28 PM
That may be true, it may not be. He isnt the type of person you bring up just becuase they are better than someone if they arent ready.
Do you know him? I dont so I cant say how he would react, but I think that his stuff would allow him to be successfull now in the bigs. I just dont want to be 4 games out at the end of the season and wonder if Home boy would have made that difference.

joshnky
08-12-2006, 06:13 PM
Here is my hesitancy with bringing up Homer this season as a starter. I've read that the Reds want to limit his total innings to at most 150. He has pitched 118 and probably will have pitched around 125 after tomorrows game. That means he possibly has 4 games left in him this year after tomorrow. Is it worth bringing him up for four starts? If we stick to the plan he wouldn't be able to pitch the second half of September or in the playoffs. Also, keep in mind that the most innnings he has ever thrown is 103 last year. I don't know, maybe its just me, but I'm frightened by what has happened to Prior and Wood and now Liriano. I'd hate to see us ruin a potentially great career by overusing him. Now as a reliever, thats another debate entirely.

deltachi8
08-12-2006, 06:15 PM
The inverse of infinity times infinity could possibly be one. But not a negative multiplied by infinity to the power of infinity.

:p:

oh, i was just saying what you said +1, I am in complete agreement.

Ltlabner
08-12-2006, 07:34 PM
Yea bring him up.
Watch him get pounded.
Listen to people complain that Kriv brought him up.

Sounds like a great plan to me.

Joseph
08-12-2006, 07:55 PM
Yea bring him up.
Watch him get pounded.
Listen to people complain that Kriv brought him up.

Sounds like a great plan to me.

Sounds like everyday around here of late.

'Do something! Win now! Get some bullpen help!'

'Why the hell did you do that? You should have given up absolutely nothing!'

Ltlabner
08-12-2006, 10:07 PM
Sounds like everyday around here of late.

'Do something! Win now! Get some bullpen help!'

'Why the hell did you do that? You should have given up absolutely nothing!'


Couldn't agree more.

Cranking album there in your avitar by the way.

redsfanmia
08-12-2006, 10:14 PM
Yea bring him up.
Watch him get pounded.
Listen to people complain that Kriv brought him up.

Sounds like a great plan to me.

How about you dont bring him up and EZ keeps getting pounded killing the bullpen every start.
Miss the playoffs because of it.
Leave Homer down until he gets hurt.
Sounds like a better plan to me.

Unassisted
08-12-2006, 10:16 PM
I dont know, do you think 1 possibly premature start would hurt Homer forever? You're probably right, but I just want this team to win right now and I've been waiting for our savior.No, but it makes him too expensive for the Reds one year sooner. Two words: arb clock.

I want the 2011 Reds to have a good pitching staff, too.

redsfanmia
08-12-2006, 10:21 PM
No, but it makes him too expensive for the Reds one year sooner. Two words: arb clock.

I want the 2011 Reds to have a good pitching staff, too.
100% percent loser talk.

Unassisted
08-13-2006, 01:09 AM
100% percent loser talk.OK, answer this then. How is it better to give a half-baked rookie a start now than to get another year out of a future ace later?

Here's some "loser talk" that's a cold, harsh dose of reality. This team can't win the World Series in 2006. Look at its interleague performance. The AL is tough as nails this year. I'm skeptical that any NL team can win the WS in 2006. It's not worth mortgaging the future for a one-and-done playoff run.

I'd rather not see this team blow future chances at the playoffs because the GM took a flyer on the team's best pitching prospect out of desperation.

redsfanmia
08-13-2006, 09:35 AM
Is Bailey a sure fire ace? How would bringing him up now going to ruin him? I just dont get it, I dont know if the kid is ready or not I just think that the Reds havent been to the playoffs in 10 years and its possible this year so I think they should do what they should to get there. If that means calling Homer up early than so be it. I am not saying that the Reds are going to win the world series but if they get to the playoffs anything can happen.

Unassisted
08-13-2006, 01:46 PM
Is Bailey a sure fire ace? How would bringing him up now going to ruin him? Second question first. Bringing him up now is going to make him arbitration-eligible one year sooner if he logs major league service time now than it would in 2007, when we can both agree that he should be ready. The Reds will either lose or pay more for his services one year sooner by bringing him up now than they would if they wait, because of the terms of the MLB basic agreement. That's where 2011 comes in and it is a very real concern for a small-market team like the Reds.

Is he an ace? Whether he turns out to be is not entirely relevant. The Reds should treat him like he's the team's presumptive ace of the future. That's something that hasn't been done by this club in many years, and the lack of home-grown pitching talent during that time is what they have to show for it.

dougdirt
08-13-2006, 01:56 PM
Homer Bailey is pitching today.... just for the Chattanooga Lookouts ;)

goreds2
08-16-2006, 05:32 PM
8/16/06 John Fay: Enquirer Staff Writer

HOMER UPDATE: As well as Homer Bailey has pitched, there's a possibility his season will be coming to an end shortly.

He has thrown 123 innings this year. That's near the limit the Reds want for a 20-year-old.

"We're cognizant of it," general manager Wayne Krivsky said. "You've got to be careful about it. What you always want is 30 innings more than the year before."

Bailey threw 1032/3 innings at Single-A Dayton last year.

keeganbrick
08-16-2006, 05:37 PM
8/16/06 John Fay: Enquirer Staff Writer

HOMER UPDATE: As well as Homer Bailey has pitched, there's a possibility his season will be coming to an end shortly.

He has thrown 123 innings this year. That's near the limit the Reds want for a 20-year-old.

"We're cognizant of it," general manager Wayne Krivsky said. "You've got to be careful about it. What you always want is 30 innings more than the year before."

Bailey threw 1032/3 innings at Single-A Dayton last year.
Hmm, does that mean a possible limited role to the bullpen if we have any more struggles there this year?