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HumnHilghtFreel
09-03-2006, 03:56 PM
This kid is going absolutely nuts hitting the ball. Today against the Braves he's 4-4 with 3 HR to give him 52 on the year.

I saw the discussion on TV the other day, do you think he'll get past 61 this year and if he does, will he be, in your eyes, the first person to do it without an asterisk next to his name?

crazybob60
09-03-2006, 04:01 PM
WOW!!! That is some more of a day that he is having, and of the 7 guys that have 61 or more homers in a season...

1. Barry Bonds 73 2001
2. Mark McGwire 70 1998
3. Sammy Sosa 66 1998
4. Mark McGwire 65 1999
5. Sammy Sosa 64 2001
6. Sammy Sosa 63 1999
7. Roger Maris 61 1961

Yes, I do believe that he would be the only one not to raise suspicions other than of course Maris. So yes, he could be the only legit one to break the 61 mark, and yes, it would be interesting to see how far he can get and I would be so happy if he could break that Bonds single season mark...that would be nice!!!

mth123
09-03-2006, 04:04 PM
I would be so happy if he could break that Bonds single season mark...that would be nice!!!

If he does that, the Phils win the wildcard. I personally hope he doesn't hit another all year. But I understand your point.

mbgrayson
09-03-2006, 04:04 PM
Braves take lead in 9th! Diaz 3 run shot!

mbgrayson
09-03-2006, 04:23 PM
Phils win 8 to 7....OOOOH.

NastyBoy
09-04-2006, 02:09 AM
This kid is going absolutely nuts hitting the ball. Today against the Braves he's 4-4 with 3 HR to give him 52 on the year.

I saw the discussion on TV the other day, do you think he'll get past 61 this year and if he does, will he be, in your eyes, the first person to do it without an asterisk next to his name?


He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

Stewie
09-04-2006, 04:21 PM
He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

Well, that is debatable. This season, Howard is batting .308/.401/.660 with 52 homers. All of which would be career highs for Dunn.

Don't get me wrong, I like Adam Dunn, but he hasn't had a season like the one Ryan Howard is having.

IamWallaman
09-04-2006, 04:32 PM
He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

Did you forget your ;) ?

Howard looks like he could easily take the HR title if his career is short on injuries... and he can hit for AVG, too.

Pujols has some stiff competition for the most dominant hitter in the NL now. :eek:

Highlifeman21
09-04-2006, 04:42 PM
He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

You so sure about that?


Career Numbers

Player H/162 HR/162 TB/162 BB/162 K/162 OBP SLG OPS AVG
Dunn 139 40 292 113 182 .381 .520 .901 .248
Howard 171 51 356 75 179 .382 .622 1.004 .300

These say you're wrong, but I knew that without looking up these numbers.

I'm one of the biggest Dunn supporters around, but Ryan Howard's certainly had a better start to his career.

dougdirt
09-04-2006, 04:50 PM
Did you forget your ;) ?

Howard looks like he could easily take the HR title if his career is short on injuries... and he can hit for AVG, too.


He started his career way to far into his 20s to make a legit run. He is 26 now and just in his 2nd full year.

IamWallaman
09-04-2006, 06:27 PM
He started his career way to far into his 20s to make a legit run. He is 26 now and just in his 2nd full year.

Older than I remembered off hand... oh well...

He's still a top tier hitter. 50+ HR his first full year... wow!

91OSUAlum
09-04-2006, 10:09 PM
Just because the Phils were too stupid to bring this guy up sooner, do not penalize him. He hit over .300 for a few years at the AAA level and if the Phils had not goofed by signing Thome, he would have been up at 24. He is MUCH better than Dunn. It is really not close.

NJReds
09-05-2006, 09:00 AM
He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.


Ryan is putting up numbers that I thought Dunn would attain. He still might, but I doubt it.

lollipopcurve
09-05-2006, 09:13 AM
Howard is better than Dunn, in my opinion. His quick compact swing allows him to handle inside stuff and wait on and drive pitches the other way. Not quite as compact as Bonds, but he's in the neighborhood. He''ll probably have a fairly large adjustment to make as teams pitch around him, but I think he'll be able to stay patient.

Jim
09-05-2006, 12:50 PM
Just because the Phils were too stupid to bring this guy up sooner, do not penalize him. He hit over .300 for a few years at the AAA level and if the Phils had not goofed by signing Thome, he would have been up at 24. He is MUCH better than Dunn. It is really not close.

Agreed. Thome at first stunted Howard's oppty at first. He's going to be one of the top hitting 1B's for the next 5+ years assuming that he doesn't get injured.

Highlifeman21
09-05-2006, 12:58 PM
Agreed. Thome at first stunted Howard's oppty at first. He's going to be one of the top hitting 1B's for the next 5+ years assuming that he doesn't get injured.

And to think, it took a lengthy trip to the DL by Thome for the Phils to give Howard a chance.

What impresses me the most about Ryan Howard is his ability to hit the ball to all fields with power. IIRC, the majority of his HR are opposite field jobs this year. Not too shabby. Nit-picking on Howard a little bit, his OBP and OPS is too BA driven right now, and I would like to see him improve his BB, and get his career average closer to Dunn's of over 100 BB per year. Once he does that, it should prove to be a great battle of who can accumulate the most MVPs, Ryan Howard or Albert Pujols.

HumnHilghtFreel
09-05-2006, 03:45 PM
I just read a good article by Tom Verducci on my original question. It's a pretty decent read.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AuM.wx4yXvIPPAKgKcvCyUARvLYF?slug=cnnsi-thechasefor62&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns

TC81190
09-05-2006, 04:03 PM
He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

Please. :laugh: