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redsupport
09-03-2006, 06:49 PM
He might be a mole planted by the Phillies

Falls City Beer
09-03-2006, 06:51 PM
He kept the Reds from having to play extras.

flyer85
09-03-2006, 06:52 PM
Added a few French Canadians to the list of Reds fans ... oh, you said good.

Then again, I told you so.

Red in Chicago
09-03-2006, 07:07 PM
he only gave up one run, instead of two;)

Tom Servo
09-03-2006, 07:15 PM
Say what you will, but if you look at the inital trade announcement thread, the majority said it was a fine move.

flyer85
09-03-2006, 07:17 PM
Say what you will, but if you look at the inital trade announcement thread, the majority said it was a fine move.doesn't make it a good trade. I was one who was pretty sure Cormier was not going to make the team better.

fearofpopvol1
09-03-2006, 07:55 PM
I would've rather hung on to Germano. Felt that way when the trade happened and still do.

If nothing else, Germano would've been a better option in the pen.

ITHIKABAND
09-03-2006, 09:24 PM
Looked good on paper, but hes been nothing but stinky! Although tonight was more of an implosion on the defense then so much Cormier..

lucky bugle boy
09-03-2006, 11:00 PM
I would've rather hung on to Germano. Felt that way when the trade happened and still do.

If nothing else, Germano would've been a better option in the pen.

Or in the rotation at this point.

Jefferson24
09-04-2006, 12:16 AM
He's using up Homer's spot. He needs DFA. I really have little to no use for him.

fearofpopvol1
09-04-2006, 02:46 AM
He's using up Homer's spot. He needs DFA. I really have little to no use for him.

Not going to happen with him under contract for next year too.

Homer Bailey
09-04-2006, 03:39 AM
DFA are you serious? Still a great trade by the reds stop looking so short term there is a month left...

RedFanAlways1966
09-04-2006, 10:23 AM
Perhaps Rheal Cormier can hit? That seems to be a much BIGGER PROBLEM with this team than Rheal being charged with 1 earned run in a game.

Just want to be sure that Rheal does not get as much heat as the thing called Offense! 1-0 wins are a very rare thing in MLB unless we are talking the 1960's and a starter named Bob Gibson. It did happen on Apr. 14 of this year when they beat the Cards 1-0. It has happened only 3 times in the last 4 seasons (623 games)...

(1) Sept. 14, 2003 @ Cubs.
(2) Aug. 26, 2004 vs. Cards
(3) Apr. 14, 2006 @ Cards

So how many innings would it have taken for that powerful REDS Offense to score a 2nd run yesterday? Wells, 43-years-old, throws 6 innings of 5-hit/1-run ball. The bullpen shuts 'em out the next 3 innings. The REDS Offense scored 1-run in a game 4X on the 10-game roadtrip. Got shutout in another game.

Ah... I don't blame a reliever who gets charged with 1 run in a game. It happens. I do blame an anemic offense who scores 1-run or less in 50% of their last 10 games.

fearofpopvol1
09-04-2006, 12:30 PM
Perhaps Rheal Cormier can hit? That seems to be a much BIGGER PROBLEM with this team than Rheal being charged with 1 earned run in a game.

Just want to be sure that Rheal does not get as much heat as the thing called Offense! 1-0 wins are a very rare thing in MLB unless we are talking the 1960's and a starter named Bob Gibson. It did happen on Apr. 14 of this year when they beat the Cards 1-0. It has happened only 3 times in the last 4 seasons (623 games)...

(1) Sept. 14, 2003 @ Cubs.
(2) Aug. 26, 2004 vs. Cards
(3) Apr. 14, 2006 @ Cards

So how many innings would it have taken for that powerful REDS Offense to score a 2nd run yesterday? Wells, 43-years-old, throws 6 innings of 5-hit/1-run ball. The bullpen shuts 'em out the next 3 innings. The REDS Offense scored 1-run in a game 3X on the 10-game roadtrip. Get shutout in another game.

Ah... I don't blame a reliever who gets charged with 1 run in a game. It happens. I do blame an anemic offense who scores 1-run or less in 40% of their last 10 games.

I definitely agree with a lot of what you're saying and that surely contributes to the cause, but I think the frustration with Cormier is that nearly every time he pitches, he gives up a run. He fails to get out of innings without making things very very difficult.

Red in Chicago
09-04-2006, 01:06 PM
but I think the frustration with Cormier is that nearly every time he pitches, he gives up a run. He fails to get out of innings without making things very very difficult.

since coming to cincy, he's pitched 11.2 innings, but given up 18 hits and walked 4...ugly, very ugly

Unassisted
09-04-2006, 03:28 PM
Say what you will, but if you look at the inital trade announcement thread, the majority said it was a fine move.
While you're looking back at old trade threads, look up the threads for the Arroyo trade, too. That'll give you a fuller picture of the value of snap judgment. ;)

westofyou
09-04-2006, 04:09 PM
What Good Has Cormier DoneTaught the team what off sides and icing is?

mth123
09-04-2006, 04:35 PM
Obviously he was acquired with the knowledge that Mercker was on borrowed time. He only cost Germano and if Lizard would have kept pitching like he had been we wouldn't have missed him. It turned out to be a bad deal because Cormier hasn't been very good and we could have used Germano.

Funny thing is my first reaction was "why this guy?" "I don't remember him being all that good." Then some one posted he had the best ERA of any reliever so I just assumed I was wrong. This thread made me look at his stats (which I usually don't look much at for relievers) and he's been very up and down since becoming a full time reliever in the 90s. Last year his ERA was almost 6. I wouldn't get my hopes up (as many more astute posters have already noted).

This was a gamble that didn't work out. Worst part is, it isn't Krivsky's worst deal. :help: The logic was ok and others have had worse results.

Matt700wlw
09-04-2006, 04:36 PM
Maybe he's tired.

Hell, I don't know anymore.