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dabvu2498
09-06-2006, 09:58 AM
Surprise, surpise...



Player PA AVG OBP SLG SB CS VORP
Brandon Phillips 514 .291 .339 .448 22 2 29.4
Adam Dunn 596 .242 .370 .523 6 0 28.7
Rich Aurilia 406 .302 .349 .539 1 0 26.9
David Ross 245 .275 .369 .623 0 0 25.5
Scott Hatteberg 474 .306 .400 .473 1 2 25.5
Edwin Encarnacion 386 .289 .371 .512 3 3 21.7
Ryan Freel 482 .274 .367 .401 35 10 17.7
Ken Griffey Jr. 470 .251 .315 .479 0 0 16.0
Royce Clayton 125 .237 .280 .322 6 2 -2.8
Chris Denorfia 60 .231 .322 .269 0 1 -3.2
Jason LaRue 213 .177 .310 .320 1 0 -5.8

MaineRed
09-06-2006, 10:20 AM
Now if I only knew what VORP was.

mbgrayson
09-06-2006, 10:31 AM
Now if I only knew what VORP was.

VORP= value over replacement player. Zero represents the value of a MLB replacement player. Does not include defense.

This is a relatively new stat meant to rate overall performance. See THIS LINK (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/glossary/index.php?search=VORP)at Baseball Prospectus.

justincredible
09-06-2006, 10:32 AM
I can tell you it doesn't surprise me that LaRue is at the bottom. I don't know what VORP is but whatever it is I didn't figure LaRue would have a good one.

RedsManRick
09-06-2006, 10:58 AM
What I find intersting is that Junior is the least productive "regular". You can't blame it on injuries this year. Interestingly, his patience and ISO SLG aren't too far off from his norms. To me it looks like he's just not making as much contact as he used to, be it due to slower hands, bad luck, or whatever else. If he was hitting .290 his OPS would be in the .900 range. His HR/hit is still there, he's just not getting as many hits. It will be interesting to see how & if he bounces back next year -- or if perhaps were seeing the manifestion of the end of the line.

crazybob60
09-06-2006, 11:17 AM
Geez, you knew LaRue was doing horrible, but according to this new stat he is doing just beyond horrible....I don't know how else to express it.

dabvu2498
09-06-2006, 11:23 AM
LaRue ranks 280 out of 311 ML players with 200+ PAs. (Just ahead of Miguel Cairo and just behind John Buck.)

Who is dead last, you might ask??? Abraham Nunez (-20.2 :eek:)

Highlifeman21
09-06-2006, 04:23 PM
Royce Clayton and Jason LaRue, my two favorite Reds....

westofyou
09-06-2006, 04:26 PM
Vorp is based on a measurement vs your Peers at your position, so Dunn is getting measured against LF's and Phillips 2nd basemen, imagine if Phillips was at SS it would be even wider a margin.

Johnny Footstool
09-06-2006, 04:27 PM
What is Aurilia being measured as?

westofyou
09-06-2006, 04:29 PM
What is Aurilia being measured as?

http://www.stathead.com/bbeng/woolner/vorpdescnew.htm

Each player listed only at the position he appears at most (not prorated according to % of time spent at each position). If two or more positions tie for the most appearances, then he's listed at each one.