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GAC
09-17-2006, 07:27 AM
Man, talk about getting off to a slow start in this one. I realize that being ranked #1 puts a target on your back by every opponent.

Didn't take the Bearcats seriously?
Thinking ahead to Penn State next week?
Bearcats played with nothing to lose?

That first half was downright ugly. I'm not trying to take anything away from the Bearcats because in that first half they played some inspired ball; but every scouting report I read showed them outmatched in every category (offensively and defensively).

And I realize the final score was 37-7 (pretty much made the spread); but for the first 2 1/2 quarters this game was not in the bag for OSU.

Grutza impressed me (18/22 for 206 yds).

Ginn had a terrible day on special teams IMO.

Gonzo was there for us again (5 receptions for 85 yds). He's a talented player, but I think teams are more worried about Ginn, whcih helps Gonzo out. Good.

The FG tandem of Pettrey/Pretorius looked darn good. Which, in Tressel's eye, means we're in FG range every time we cross mid-field! :lol:

But I thought the offensive play calling in the first half was pretty stale and predictable.

Next week: Penn State

Hard to judge by the Cincy game wether OSU's run defense is much improved.

We'll find out next week with PSU RB Tony Hunt becuase their QB Morelli didn't look too sharp vs Youngstown State yesterday.

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On a separate note....

How about them Irish? :evil:

I've never been an Irish fan, and was actually rooting for Michigan yesterday (loyal to the Big 10 to no end).

Is it just the media and/or sports "experts"; but it seems they want ND to succeed so much, when in fact I don't think their team is as good as some think (this year or last).

And I've said it before, and I'll say it again....

Brady Quinn is over-rated! IMHO, he was never in the Heisman hunt, and yesterday's performance just killed it for him IMO.

redsfan30
09-17-2006, 11:27 AM
I, too was rooting for Michigan yesterday. I don't particularly hate Notre Dame, I hate what the media makes them out to be.

You can't question Brady Quinn's arm strength. His decision making is another story....

KronoRed
09-17-2006, 04:14 PM
UC won the 1st quarter, that counts for something..HA ;)

BoydsOfSummer
09-17-2006, 07:28 PM
Seems like all ND has to do is win a couple and they are the darlings of college football. A win at anytime rockets them into the top 5/10, regardless of where they were ranked. An odd phenomenon.

Heath
09-17-2006, 07:31 PM
Seems like all ND has to do is win a couple and they are the darlings of college football. A win at anytime rockets them into the top 5/10, regardless of where they were ranked. An odd phenomenon.

But they made a BCS bowl with no team speed or questionable "skill" players.

But since they made a BCS bowl, they have to be good.

:dunno:

NatiRedGals
09-17-2006, 08:07 PM
Personally UC didnt stand a chance at OSU with their Refs UC didnt get one call in the 2nd half they played great and deserved to win to bad the score looks like a blowout

GAC
09-17-2006, 09:09 PM
UC won the 1st quarter, that counts for something..HA ;)

In what? The last I heard, they play 4 quarters. ;)

GAC
09-17-2006, 09:21 PM
Personally UC didnt stand a chance at OSU with their Refs UC didnt get one call in the 2nd half they played great and deserved to win to bad the score looks like a blowout


How do you figure Cincy DESEVERED to win? What call(s) were blown by the refs or Cincy didn't get in the 2nd half?

Ohio State's defense intercepted three Cincinnati passes, recorded eight sacks for 59 yards and held the Bearcat rushers to -4 yards rushing.

And OSU was penalized 8 times for 75 yds, Cincy 6 times for 28.

The fact is - the bigger OSU squad finally wore the Bearcats out. ;)

RedFanAlways1966
09-17-2006, 09:29 PM
Personally UC didnt stand a chance at OSU with their Refs UC didnt get one call in the 2nd half they played great and deserved to win to bad the score looks like a blowout

A thing that is heard by many a-football fan. I am an Ohio State fan... I felt the same way about the calls in the game at Texas last week (despite a big Buckeyes win).

Obviously you are a Bearcats fan, but I must disagree with one thing... that UC deserved to win. No way, no how (and in no way disrespectful towards you). UC was Overmatched w/ a capital "O". They played a valiant 1st half... as OSU played a not-so-good 1st half. Letdowns are a common thing in football. I think OSU's 1st half was the definition of a letdown. I also give UC credit for coming in w/ a good defensive scheme (the Dantonio factor perhaps?).

OSU came out in the 2nd half with a changed gameplan. I am not sure that OSU had used the option run this year until that 2nd half. They did what good teams do... made changes and executed them. UC just did not have the "horses" to keep up. UC was overmatched from the get-go, but showed heart and a good gameplan at the start and through a good chunk of the 2nd quarter. However, you do not lose by 30 points due to bad calls.

edit... just saw that GAC beat me to the post! Darn him! :)

bucksfan
09-18-2006, 12:04 AM
I watched this game twice. In no way possible can one even stretch it to say UC deserved anything other than the final outcome. Could they have made it closer? Surely. Could the Buckeyes have played a better 1s half? Yes. But the imbalance or discrepancy in officiating was simply not there - especially for a 30 pt deficit.

Overall, as an unabashed Buckeye fan and Ohio State alum, I was actually relatively pleased with the game. The team adjusted and improved as the game went along. Most any team can lose at any time, including the Buckeyes to the Bearcats. Yesterday was not one of those times. The final score was pretty indicative of the 2 teams IMHO. UC did come out with a great defensive gameplan. They did well during that time, to be sure. And I thought we had another very close one coming on. But the plan was eventually overcome by adjustments and an improvement in execution.

dman
09-18-2006, 03:38 PM
There was no reason though, that OSU should not have been marching the ball down that field every possession. I also disagree, respectfully, with the comment that U.C. didn't get the calls that OSU was getting. It appeared as though the Bucks were doing just what GAC said they were, just wearing down the smaller U.C. team in the first half just to come out the second half and wlak all over them

max venable
09-18-2006, 03:44 PM
Anybody think Tressel's gonna put much on film for JoPa or anyone else against Cincinnati? Come on. The Bucks were merely toying the the Bearcats.

BuckWoody
09-18-2006, 04:33 PM
Anybody think Tressel's gonna put much on film for JoPa or anyone else against Cincinnati? Come on. The Bucks were merely toying the the Bearcats.
Exactly. Everyone knows that Tressel is going to coach every game close to the vest. No way he will put anything on film that would help a Big-10 opponent later on. Keep it simple, keep it basic, don't show anything, and don't embarrass your good friend on the other sideline (if at all possible).

So what is the Penn State staff gonna do? "Well, let's see...they lined up with 2 TE's and ran a lot of option. Let's gameplan for that!" :D

bucksfan
09-18-2006, 10:59 PM
There was no reason though, that OSU should not have been marching the ball down that field every possession. I also disagree, respectfully, with the comment that U.C. didn't get the calls that OSU was getting. It appeared as though the Bucks were doing just what GAC said they were, just wearing down the smaller U.C. team in the first half just to come out the second half and wlak all over them

IMO the reason they did not march down the field on every possession is that the Buckeyes are made up of 18-22 yr-old (in most cases)young men who have been conceivably well-trained in college football as are the Bearcats. The guys on in both groups still play well and make mistakes. The cream of the crop tend to play better when they play well (if that makes any sense) and do it more frequently. Over the course of 1 football game, you won't always see the score disparity parallel that of the recruiting rankings. The 67-0 blowouts happen against BAD programs or in flukey circumstances. We saw neither Saturday. To top it off, I'd never expect the Buckeyes to completely annihilate a team under Mr. Dantonio unless they were just completely overmatched in every way.

In other words, just the difficulty of making any kind of talent disparity consistently show up "on paper" (scoreboard) on a game-by-game basis with college "kids" is really an enormous task with IMO little reward either personally or otherwise. When you couple that with a coach who is not too hung up on the final score other than a win (which I agree with him about) and the chance that 2nd/3rd teamers (and even 4th in the case of the QB) will play when a score begins to get lopsided, then the blowouts of huge magnitudes (say 5 TD or more) become even more difficult.

I don't think the Buckeyes are world-beaters because they won 37-7. I also don't think it shows that they are still not an excellent football team and possibly as good as anyone in the land. First half could have been much better. A decisive 2nd half made me feel pretty good about the team.

GAC
09-19-2006, 06:06 AM
The team adjusted and improved as the game went along.... UC did come out with a great defensive gameplan. They did well during that time, to be sure....But the plan was eventually overcome by adjustments and an improvement in execution.

And that was really the key to it all. The ability to see those plans on the field and make those adjustments. UC could not only overcome those adjustments; but was unable to make adjustments of their own.

Give credit to OSU's coaching staff.

GAC
09-19-2006, 06:09 AM
Anybody think Tressel's gonna put much on film for JoPa or anyone else against Cincinnati? Come on. The Bucks were merely toying the the Bearcats.

I don't think they were doing too much toying in the first half. They came out flat, while Cincy was hyped up and playing like a team of Ryan Freels in getting the opportunity to play the #1 team in the nation. That would/should motivate any team.

And Paterno has been around the game long enough that there is nothing he hasn't seen or really should be surprised by.

Paterno is gonna really emphasize the running game and controlling the clock next week because so far, regardless of limiting Cincy to -4 yds rushing, that is OSU's achille's heel - their run defense. Plus the fact that PSU's QB Morelli has not been very impressive. If Penn State tries to shoot it out with OSU, then they are gonna lose.

LoganBuck
09-20-2006, 02:14 PM
I was at the game, and GAC is on the spot here. UC's kids were all hopped up on the sidelines. They were really into it. Ohio State did look a little lethargic, and at least part of that has to be traced to Tressel and Bollman. The play calling and especially the blocking schemes were at the least pedestrian. UC tried to exploit the same misdirection scheme that NIU used against OSU two weeks ago. It worked the first time down the field. OSU adapted and it was good night.