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Krusty
09-18-2006, 12:20 PM
Who would you rather trade this offseason to improve the club?

Redhook
09-18-2006, 01:08 PM
Both. :evil:










I'd rather trade JR. for sure. I would hold onto Dunn for one more year or wait until his value goes up. It has to be pretty low for someone of his caliber right now. At $10.5 million next year, he's still a good value. After that, not so much.

That being said, I'd be shocked if JR. was traded even though he'd make a pretty good DH for the remaining years he plays. The Reds would have to eat alot of his salary. Unfortunately, I believe the Reds will never be a playoff team with JR. on the team. Maybe he'll retire early, but I doubt it.

RedsBaron
09-18-2006, 01:11 PM
It depends upon who the Reds would receive in return. With all respect, polls regarding who to trade mean little to me unless I know who the trade is being made for. I do not subscribe to the Paul Daugherty theory of trade him and "hope" you get "value."

Will M
09-18-2006, 01:55 PM
has little trade value & 10/5 rights

westofyou
09-18-2006, 01:59 PM
I do not subscribe to the Paul Daugherty theory of trade him and "hope" you get "value."Do you subscribe to the theory that Griffey will use his 5-10 rights to level a deal that would be to his benifit, and thus weaken the Reds position to trade him?

I do.

I also subscribe to the theory that a 27 year old Dunn producing in the neighborhood of his last 3 seasons can't be replaced by some mystery player.

So I say, good luck with Griffey, no on Dunn.

TOBTTReds
09-18-2006, 02:26 PM
has little trade value & 10/5 rights

I wouldn't get caught up in either. He would certainly allow a trade to a few select teams and getting someone to pay 4/5 of his salary is enough value. Save us/or spend $9-10 mil next year. That is value. And I'm sure we could get 1 player atleast that is a decent prospect.

Krusty
09-18-2006, 03:33 PM
The only way I see Junior agreeing to a trade to a AL team is one that is a contender and trains in Florida. That would make the Yankees, Red Sox, Tigers and possibly the Blue Jays as contenders.

If the rumors are true that the Red Sox are looking to pursue Atlanta's Andrew Jones, they would probably not have that much interest in Junior. The Yankees might especially if Bernie Williams retires and the Yankees play Giambi at lst base more than as a DH.

But the best fit for Junior might be the Tigers where he can be their DH and give the young kid Curtis Granderson an occasional break in centerfield.

If the Reds were willing to pay the remaining defered portion of Junior's contract, the Tigers might look at 6.5 million as a reasonable price to acquire Junior. And if the Reds get a young pitcher for the starting rotation like RHP Zach Minier, it bolsters the rotation while giving them some payroll flex.

RANDY IN INDY
09-18-2006, 04:15 PM
It depends upon who the Reds would receive in return. With all respect, polls regarding who to trade mean little to me unless I know who the trade is being made for. I do not subscribe to the Paul Daugherty theory of trade him and "hope" you get "value."

My thoughts exactly.:beerme:

RANDY IN INDY
09-18-2006, 04:19 PM
If the Reds keep Dunn, they really need to try and surround him in the offense with the right mix of players. Although I once thought differently, I just don't think he is the type of player that is ever going to put the team on his back and carry them. He certainly has his strong points and is a very valuable player, and I hope they can keep him and build a winner. It's going to take something different than what they have to make this offense tick on a regular basis.

redsupport
09-18-2006, 05:36 PM
how about griffey for cameron

RedsManRick
09-18-2006, 05:38 PM
I'd trade Jr. no question if I could get some return. I just don't see any possible trades out there.

redsupport
09-18-2006, 05:53 PM
getting rid of him for nothing is addition by subtraction

mth123
09-18-2006, 08:17 PM
I don't trade Dunn because you can't possibly get enough value.

Griffey probably can't traded for a number of reasons. The best possibility would be if he wants to go back to Seattle as a DH to hit #600.

Not bloody likely!

Spring~Fields
09-19-2006, 06:29 PM
Who would you rather trade this offseason to improve the club?


I just canít see the Reds obtaining anything significant in return by trading any of the players that they currently have. Clearly I can be wrong but, I just donít see any GM trading them outstanding players in return to meet the pitching or hitting needs.

I prefer that the Reds unload the players under contract with the highest salaries to give them more discretionary funds in which to possibly buy the services of upgrades where they need it most.

RedsBaron
09-19-2006, 08:19 PM
If Dunn is traded (and I'm not opposed to a trade for the right return), where will the Reds offense come from next season? Other than EE, most of the Reds hitters are either too old or too injury prone, or likely just flashes in the pan, to be counted on for much.

VI_RedsFan
09-19-2006, 08:37 PM
Griffey probably can't traded for a number of reasons. The best possibility would be if he wants to go back to Seattle as a DH to hit #600.

Not bloody likely!

I doubt Griffey would want to go back to Seattle. What he really wants is to be close to his Orlando home, and Seattle is pretty far away from Orlando.

In my mind, there's no way we trade Griffey this offseason. I'm sure he just wants to finish his career here and hit #600 for his hometown team. I doubt anyone would want Junior anyway considering his injury-proneness and his big decrease in offensive numbers this past season.

Would I rather see Griffey traded than Dunn? Yes. Do I think there's more of a chance we trade Griffey than Dunn this offseason? No.

fearofpopvol1
09-19-2006, 09:10 PM
It's simple. Trade either or both if it brings good pitching. You can replace offense or at least substitute it to some degree (much easier to sign a free agent offensive player). Pitching, as we have seen with the Reds now for a while, is not something you can substitute.

mth123
09-19-2006, 09:13 PM
Agree in theory. I don't think you can replace Dunn w/o paying a lot more than you will pay him next year. That leaves even less money for the other needs.

REDREAD
09-20-2006, 02:08 PM
I think the offense will suffer big if Dunn is traded. Just to play devil's advocate here though:

We are very weak in RF and one of the middle infielder slots. Freel was been offensive offensively. So, in theory, you could trade Dunn for pitching and replace his offense with 2 OF and even get a net gain.

For example, let's say you trade Dunn for pitching that isn't too expensive (say 3 million). That leaves you with 7 million payflex (I think Dunn is due 10 million next year). Then you pull off the Jenkins-Milton trade that was proposed and Jenkins bounces back to his good form. The guy did OPS 888 in 2005. Let's assume the Reds send cash to Milwaukee to make the payflex a wash. That leaves you 7 million. Ideally, you get a CF that can hit. Maybe you sign Mike Cameron.

Thus after the trade, you have a good 3 million dollar starting pitcher to replace Milton, and you have Jenkins and Cameron in the OF, with Jr sliding to a corner slot. You cross your fingers that Jenkins rebounds. I think that team would actually win more games, even if Jenkins only rebounds to a 800-830 OPS. Of course, the hardest part of this is getting the right pitcher for Dunn ( or maybe the hardest part is selling the Brewers on Milton :lol: )

mth123
09-20-2006, 10:32 PM
( or maybe the hardest part is selling the Brewers on Milton )

Bingo.