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flynn78
10-01-2006, 02:11 AM
LOS ANGELES -- Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte and Miguel Tejada were among the players that a former major league pitcher accused of using performance-enhancing drugs, according to a federal agent's affidavit, the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday on its Web site.

The agent for Clemens and Pettitte denied the accusations. Baltimore teammates Brian Roberts, Jay Gibbons and Tejada also were implicated in the sworn statement, the Times said; an Orioles spokeswoman said the team had not seen the report and had no comment.



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Roger Clemens hasn't decided whether to come back for another season.
In June, federal agents searched reliever Jason Grimsley's home in Arizona after the pitcher admitted using human growth hormone, steroids and amphetamines. Grimsley was later released by the Arizona Diamondbacks and suspended 50 games by Major League Baseball, and has not played since then.

In a 20-page search warrant affidavit signed by IRS Special Agent Jeff Novitzky, the Times reported, he said Grimsley identified other players who had used drugs. Those names were blacked out when the document was released.

The Times said an anonymous source with access to the document -- minus the crossouts -- let the newspaper see it, but kept the copy. The Times said a second source who had identified the other players provided additional details about the document.

According to the affidavit, the Times said, Grimsley told investigators Clemens and Pettitte "used athletic performance-enhancing drugs."

The affidavit also alleged Grimsley told federal agents that Roberts, Gibbons and Tejada "took anabolic steroids."

On Wednesday, Gibbons told ESPN The Magazine's Amy K. Nelson he had not seen a copy of the affidavit and was told by his agent and other journalists only that his name was on the document. He also said he thought he was named as part of the group Grimsley referred to when discussing amphetamines. "I barely knew [Grimsley]," Gibbons said.

In June, the Orioles' front office held separate meetings with Tejada, Gibbons and Roberts, according to three sources. The context of the conversations was to inform the players that their names were rumored to be on the affidavit, and that they should all consult their lawyers. According to one source in the room, it was simply a forewarning, and no other intimate information related to the affidavit was shared.

Gibbons said that all questions the media had would likely be referred to his lawyer.

"I know it'll make me only look more guilty, but I have to protect myself," Gibbons said earlier this week. "I don't have to protect anybody else. This is my livelihood."

Orioles vice president Jim Duquette, also reached at Yankee Stadium on Wednesday, said he had seen only a redacted version of the document, but he was aware the three players were known to be on the list.

Novitzky also was the lead investigator in the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative probe. Two BALCO officials and Barry Bonds' personal trainer, Greg Anderson, served jail time after guilty pleas in that investigation.

Grimsley has complained to friends, the Times said, that federal agents attributed statements to him that he did not make.

"I'm told he has denied saying all of this," Randy Hendricks, who represents Clemens and Pettitte, told The Associated Press on Saturday night. "It's an agent's recollection about a conversation he had about conjecture."

"I've grown weary of having to defend [Clemens] from innuendo and conjecture about every six months for the last several years when he's complied with all of the rules and regulations," Hendricks said. "Andy is just surprised and stunned, and has no knowledge of any such activity."

Clemens and Pettitte pitch for Houston. The Astros won 5-4 at Atlanta on Saturday night.

Tejada, Gibbons and Roberts had left the clubhouse in Boston after Baltimore's 5-4 victory Saturday night when an AP reporter sought comment.

"I don't pay attention to what [Grimsley said]," Tejada told The (Baltimore) Sun. "I know that I've never had a problem with that. I know that I've never used that and I know I am clean.

"I don't worry about anybody who puts me in that stuff. I'll get checked out for anybody, any time, any moment -- whenever they want."

Gibbons told The Sun: "I have passed every test administered by Major League Baseball over all the years. And I am not going to dignify these claims and accusations with any further response."

Along with the federal probe, baseball hired former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell to investigate the use of steroids.

All major league players are tested at least twice a year for banned drugs. There is no test for HGH, but it is banned by baseball.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report

cReds1
10-01-2006, 02:15 AM
Surprised?


Nope!


Just shows how MLB covers up such things, but what do i know it is only from the media.

savafan
10-01-2006, 02:15 AM
very interesting indeed...

paintmered
10-01-2006, 02:43 AM
Last year there was a "big fish" who supposedly tested positive. Most of the rumors pointed towards Clemens.

IIRC, he had a doctor's prescription that allowed him to be cleared.

Jr's Boy
10-01-2006, 11:20 AM
I had forgot about the Grimsley incident,and all the names he had.This could get really ugly in the off season.

MWM
10-01-2006, 11:28 AM
One thing that really bothers me is how these things ALWAYS wind up as public knowledge long before investigations are complete and punishments are handed out. Not that I'm trying to protect the athletes, but as a matter of principle these things are kept private for a reason and it totally sucks that this stuff gets leaked to the public every time. And once an accusation is made, the player is absolutely guilty regardless of what is uncovered later.

Reds4Life
10-01-2006, 11:29 AM
Grimsley better have proof, and I don't mean stuff he "heard", or he might find himself being sued.

Cedric
10-01-2006, 11:32 AM
Roger Clemens was so obvious you can't help but laugh about it. These guys were so cocky and trust worthy of their trainers that they just didn't care how obvious they were.

GoReds
10-01-2006, 11:33 AM
"There is no test for HGH, but it is banned by baseball."

Then what's the point?

Cedric
10-01-2006, 11:34 AM
"There is no test for HGH, but it is banned by baseball."

Then what's the point?

If someone is found to be taking it or has it on their possesion they can be suspended just like steroids.

paintmered
10-01-2006, 11:35 AM
"There is no test for HGH, but it is banned by baseball."

Then what's the point?

Because some day there might be a test and samples can be frozen and tested later.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 11:58 AM
All those legendary numbers of Roger Clemens.....




I hope he's clean.

Reds4Life
10-01-2006, 12:07 PM
All those legendary numbers of Roger Clemens.....




I hope he's clean.

I do too honestly. He'll go down as one of the best pitchers in MLB history, I hope he wasn't stupid enough to ruin it.

letsgojunior
10-01-2006, 12:11 PM
Grimsley better have proof, and I don't mean stuff he "heard", or he might find himself being sued.

Defamation suits are really difficult to win nowadays for public figures like Clemens.

Not only would he have to prove that Grimsley's statement was false, but he would have to prove that Grimsely either (a) knew it was false when he made it or (b) recklessly disregarded its falsity.

WVRed
10-01-2006, 12:26 PM
Perfect timing for Clemens to call it quits.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 12:56 PM
I do too honestly. He'll go down as one of the best pitchers in MLB history, I hope he wasn't stupid enough to ruin it.

Could be the best pitcher I'll ever see.....him and Maddux

Cedric
10-01-2006, 02:52 PM
Could be the best pitcher I'll ever see.....him and Maddux

You like them over Pedro? I've never seen a pitcher even close to Pedro level when he's on.

Matt700wlw
10-01-2006, 02:54 PM
You like them over Pedro? I've never seen a pitcher even close to Pedro level when he's on.

Pedro too....but he won't be pitching when he's 42 (he's not 42 is he?)

WMR
10-01-2006, 03:11 PM
He doesn't have the body-type/joints to accept an aggressive HGH/Steroid cycling program, either.

Larkin Fan
10-01-2006, 08:03 PM
There actually is a test for HGH. It's just that the antibodies that are used for the test are in such short supply that it's not widely used. It also only detects HGH right after it has been injected, so it's practically useless unless someone has been doping right before the blood draw.

There's several tests in the works right now, but they're still in the research stages.

SandyD
10-01-2006, 08:53 PM
One thing that really bothers me is how these things ALWAYS wind up as public knowledge long before investigations are complete and punishments are handed out. Not that I'm trying to protect the athletes, but as a matter of principle these things are kept private for a reason and it totally sucks that this stuff gets leaked to the public every time. And once an accusation is made, the player is absolutely guilty regardless of what is uncovered later.

I agree with this 100%. These matters should be kept private until allegations are confirmed.

I also feel that any serious investigation should expand to all sports, and all levels, including HS and College.

edabbs44
10-01-2006, 09:12 PM
I've never liked Clemens and I would not be surprised if this was true at all. Maybe it would explain his little escapade with Piazza.

Rojo
10-04-2006, 05:40 PM
Jason Grimsely, the Elia Kazan of baseball.