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George Foster
10-01-2006, 10:54 PM
Adam Dunn who had 40 homeruns, failed to reach 100 RBI's after having 87 on August 30. He finished with 92 RBI's. He had more at-bats than anybody on the team with 561.

In contrast Nomar Garciaparra, who had 91 less at bats and 20 less homeruns had 93 RBI's.

MWM
10-01-2006, 11:09 PM
What's most disappointing to me is the overall attrocious performance in September of just about everyone not named Aurilia or Denorfia:

OPS in September:

Phillips - .457
Edwin - .585
Dunn - .598
Hatteburg - .585
Ross - .670
Freel - .613

Other than Aurilia, those guys listed were just about the entire offense for the season. And we're not talking minor letdowns, we're talking horrendous numbers. how do that many players play that poorly down the stretch in a pennant chase? It's possible it's random, but it seems to me more likely that there's something more there considering just how many players dropped so significantly. I criticized Narron very rarely this year, but seeing this raises some red flags about his managing down the stretch. How can that many guys go that poorly for an entire month?

reds44
10-01-2006, 11:11 PM
I didn't know it was possible to have a .457 OPS.

VR
10-01-2006, 11:29 PM
I criticized Narron very rarely this year, but seeing this raises some red flags about his managing down the stretch. How can that many guys go that poorly for an entire month?


Should it be Narron, or Chambliss and the scouting?

BrooklynRedz
10-01-2006, 11:52 PM
Should it be Narron, or Chambliss and the scouting?

Or the other teams' pitching?

Caveat Emperor
10-02-2006, 12:22 AM
Everyone regresses to the mean eventually. Sometimes it just happens all at once.

oregonred
10-02-2006, 01:13 AM
Since September 1st the Reds OPS was dead last in baseball -- .644. Dead last in XBH, dead last in Avg, dead last in SLG%.

Unbelieveable -- a total team meltdown led by Dunn/KGJ (know he was hurt) with the exception of Nature Boy and Deno. Sorry for noting the two guys making 40% of the TOTAL team payroll. And we won't even talk about the defensive liability issue.

On the bright side the pitching finished the year with a 4.51 ERA good for 7th in the NL (ahead of STL, Philly, Atlanta)

Outmanned by poor scouting/coaching down the stretch?? Some guys just giving up? Pressing too hard? Culture of losing tough to purge? The Trade killing offensive depth shown more when KGL/Freel went down? (although July 13-Sept 1 period was better then the 1H '06 in all the key categories)

I haven't been paying close attention the last few weeks, but couldn't believe the almost unfathomable and horrendous offensive numbers when I was just looking through them on the MLB site.

4.51 ERA with an awful bullpen for 5 months gives some hope.

oregonred
10-02-2006, 01:15 AM
Everyone regresses to the mean eventually. Sometimes it just happens all at once.

Maybe in the case of Hatt/Ross, but how does that explain both Dunn and EdE's horrendous (and that's being kind as this is a family forum) September? We're talking the kind of month that makes manos de oro look like Albert Pujols with some Barry Bonds sportscream on the biceps for good measure...

edabbs44
10-02-2006, 06:06 AM
I didn't know it was possible to have a .457 OPS.

Isn't OPS like the SATs where you get an automatic 400 points just for showing up?

GridironGrace
10-02-2006, 06:46 AM
Wish we could play the month of Sept again :(

GAC
10-02-2006, 08:36 AM
Do they track men left on base (LOB)? I don't think anyone could touch us. :lol:

Heath
10-02-2006, 11:15 AM
Do they track men left on base (LOB)? I don't think anyone could touch us. :lol:

I was thinking sorta the same lines - from a different angle - what's our RISP Average?

:D

TOBTTReds
10-02-2006, 11:23 AM
Isn't OPS like the SATs where you get an automatic 400 points just for showing up?

You gotta put your name on it to get that. Maybe they mispelled the names in the lineup card.

KronoRed
10-02-2006, 04:05 PM
Wish we could play the month of Sept again :(
We might do worse ;)

vic715
10-02-2006, 04:31 PM
I think it also shows the importance of having Griffey in the lineup.