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reds44
10-13-2006, 05:07 PM
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- I'm taking some time off, I swear. But since I have a minute or two, here are a couple transactions from today.


The Reds sent infielder Trevor Lawhorn to the Blue Jays as the player to be named in the Scott Schoeneweis deal. Lawhorn hit .224 with four homers and 28 RBIs in 91 games for the Sarasota Reds this season. The only remaining PTBNL is to the Indians in the Todd Hollandsworth deal.


Ronnie Ortegon has been named minor league hitting coordinator. He replaces Leon Roberts, who held the job the past six seasons. That's a clean sweep of the Reds' major league and minor league hitting gurus, if you're scoring at home. Ortegon was most recently with the Rangers organization.



The Reds have acquired infielder/outfielder Jerry Gil from the Diamondbacks for right-hander Abe Woody. Gil has 29 big-league games under his belt but spent all of 2006 in the minors. He hit .256 with 28 doubles, 27 homers and 89 RBIs in 128 games between Class AA Tennessee (I just passed their ballpark a while ago) and Class AAA Tucson. Gil, who turns 24 tomorrow, is a nephew of legendary former Reds hurler Josias Manzanillo. He has been added to the 40-man roster.


Brandon Claussen and his wife Kelli welcomed their first child, daughter Kenedi May, yesterday afternoon. Kenedi checked in at 7 pounds, 11 ounces. Congratulations to the proud parents.

-Marc

Krusty
10-13-2006, 05:15 PM
Krivsky is just putting the finishing touches on revamping the baseball operations.

Anyone know if Terry Reynolds is still in the organization? Last I heard he was demoted when Krivsky brought Chris Buckley in to run the scouting department.

JaxRed
10-13-2006, 06:08 PM
Has something happened to Jamie Dismuke, the Chattanooga hitting instructor?

WVRedsFan
10-13-2006, 06:11 PM
Just read over on the Live board:


The Kearns/Lopez trade has not worked out. It is not that big of a loss. Neither one of those guys would have a place on the team next year. Kearns cann't play centerfield, and Lopez can not play short stop well. So where would they play?

I've got a lot of places for those two to play considering we do not have a shortstop (unless they move Phillips and they don't seem to want to) and no one was considering playing Austin in center. As we found out last season, a good bat is hard to find...unless you already have it. It would take an act of Congress or God to get Junior out of center.

Krusty, all the behind the scenes shuffling is fine, but the product on the field is what worries me the most. It ain't there yet. I'm waiting for the winter meetings and hoping for some real movement.

WMR
10-13-2006, 06:18 PM
Just read over on the Live board:



I've got a lot of places for those two to play considering we do not have a shortstop (unless they move Phillips and they don't seem to want to) and no one was considering playing Austin in center. As we found out last season, a good bat is hard to find...unless you already have it. It would take an act of Congress or God to get Junior out of center.

Krusty, all the behind the scenes shuffling is fine, but the product on the field is what worries me the most. It ain't there yet. I'm waiting for the winter meetings and hoping for some real movement.

I want the three minutes of my life back that I spent on that thread.

Doc. Scott
10-13-2006, 06:23 PM
Has something happened to Jamie Dismuke, the Chattanooga hitting instructor?

He was supposed to be in the AFL right now. I assume you know that already.

Doc. Scott
10-13-2006, 06:29 PM
Jerry Gil (http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/G/Jerry-Gil.shtml) certainly has some interesting stats. He's not old for his level and he has a lot of power for a middle infielder... but that there's some bad, bad plate discipline. I would assume he'd start 2007 at AAA, probably replacing Ray Olmedo (who is out of options and will likely be jettisoned sometime between now and April 1st). He's also got considerably more pop than Jeff Bannon (who is a six-year FA) and is younger. Still, it's possible his 2006 was a fluke and not a "breakout". The Smokies' park is generally hitter-friendly, although the league is closer to neutral overall. The 29 games he played at the MLB level in 2004 were more due to the 51-111 Diamondbacks being desperate for sentient, vaguely-baseball-familiar beings than anything Gil actually did.

Woody (http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/W/Abe-Woody.shtml) was old for his level, didn't have a really high K rate, and saw his ERA look better than it "really was" because of a lot of unearned runs. He more or less lost the S-Reds' closer job to Jan Granado, who had been picked up as a free agent, by midseason. So much of the year he was pitching the 6-7-8 innings, which was good for his IP count but not a sign of the organization being particularly high on him. Still, he was going to start 2007 at Chattanooga, most likely.

It seems clear why the OBP-favoring Diamondbacks (GM Josh Byrnes is a disciple of one of the "Moneyball" gentlemen) wouldn't be too high on Gil, despite his obvious tools (there's also some speed in Jerry's record, although not much in '06).

Interesting trade, because it jettisons a player who had a lower ceiling but a higher chance of having a career beyond a cup o' joe for a player with a higher ceiling but obvious holes in his game. For minor-leaguers, these might be the kinds of trades you want to make.

Doc. Scott
10-13-2006, 06:36 PM
As for Trevor Lawhorn, he had put up great power numbers at ECU but struggled in all aspects at the plate professionally, especially with plate discipline. He's versatile in the infield and plays hard, but he was beaten out of the S-Reds starting lineup through the entire initial part of the season and only played consistently after a handful of guys were promoted.

paulrichjr
10-13-2006, 06:37 PM
I want the three minutes of my life back that I spent on that thread.

It took you 3 minutes to read it?

WMR
10-13-2006, 06:39 PM
It took you 3 minutes to read it?

I read it twice out of incredulity. :laugh:

dougdirt
10-13-2006, 07:00 PM
Gil had 13 HR both at home and on the road, but had 7 more doubles at home than on the road. He also hit for a good average at home, and a poor average on the road (.314/.225) but his BABIP at home and on the road would suggest why (.364/.243). On the bright side, he seems to hit both righties and lefties about the same with an .827 and .843 OPS against both.

RedsManRick
10-13-2006, 07:09 PM
That's some great ISO power from a middle infielder, but YIKES on the BB rate. I wonder if it's a patience issue, a contact issue, or both. The K rate suggests it might be a contact issue, which is a bit harder to correct.

dougdirt
10-13-2006, 07:22 PM
He is not a middle infielder anymore, at least not last year. He had 356 at bats as a CF and just 56 as a SS this season. In 2004 he was named as the best defensive infielder in the Dbacks system, and in 2005 named as the best infield arm. The Reds may move him back to the IF, but for now on the 40 man roster he is listed as an OF.

SteelSD
10-13-2006, 07:23 PM
That's some great ISO power from a middle infielder, but YIKES on the BB rate. I wonder if it's a patience issue, a contact issue, or both. The K rate suggests it might be a contact issue, which is a bit harder to correct.

74 Walks and 2,393 minor league At Bats. This is a guy who needs to hit .280 in the Show just to have a shot at a .300 OBP. Of course, he's never actually hit .280 in the minors so the chances of that happening are pretty durned slim.

Career .250 BA/.276 OBP/.397 SLG

Actually trading a warm body for a guy like Gil is one thing. But then using up a 40-man roster slot on him? Double yikes.

JaxRed
10-13-2006, 07:38 PM
He was supposed to be in the AFL right now. I assume you know that already.

The original quote said all the "hitting gurus" at all levels were gone. I've heard nothing about Dismuke leaving Chattanooga.

RedLegSuperStar
10-14-2006, 08:43 AM
Gil has some pop and might give Deno a push for 4th spot at OF

flyer85
10-14-2006, 10:26 AM
Gil is worthless. Wayne still has me wondering.

Gallen5862
10-14-2006, 12:22 PM
http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061014/SPT05/610140388/1027&template=printpicart
Newcomer adds some versatility
Gil acquired from D-backs

By Marc Lancaster
Post staff reporter





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As of Sunday, Jerry Gil probably would have been able to pick and choose among every major league organization to find his next home.

The Reds liked him enough that they wanted to make sure he came to Cincinnati.

Gil, a strong-armed 24-year-old with the ability to play most infield and outfield positions, joined the Reds on Friday in a trade with the Diamondbacks. The Reds sent minor league reliever Abe Woody to Arizona to complete the deal.

In 128 games between Class AA Tennessee and Class AAA Tucson this season, Gil hit .256 with 28 doubles, 27 home runs and 89 RBIs. He walked just 18 times in nearly 500 plate appearances while racking up a whopping 126 strikeouts.

"He's obviously got some power," said Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky. "He strikes out a little too much and doesn't walk quite enough. But he's got a lot of ability and tools. We like the package and thought it was worthwhile to go ahead and do it."

Gil would have become a six-year minor league free agent Sunday, assuming the Diamondbacks didn't decide to add him to their 40-man roster. Arizona has one of the deeper farm systems in the majors, so the Reds were able to pry Gil away in return for Woody.

The 23-year-old right-hander was the most pleasant surprise of Cincinnati's 2005 draft class. A 31st-round selection out of Baylor University, Woody went 5-5 with a 2.92 ERA and 12 saves in 49 appearances for Class A Sarasota this season.

Gil was added to the Reds' 40-man roster, and they'll have some options in determining how to use him. He has been primarily a shortstop on the minors and played that position in his only big-league time - 29 games with the Diamondbacks in 2004. But the Reds believe he's skilled enough to move around on the diamond.

"He can play short, center, right, third," said Krivsky. "He's got a lot of versatility with that arm of his."

He also has major league bloodlines. His uncle, Josias Manzanillo, had a long professional career that included a brief and mostly unsuccessful stint pitching for the Reds in 2003.

TO BE NAMED - The Reds completed one of their regular-season trades Friday, sending infielder Trevor Lawhorn to Toronto as the player to be named in the Aug. 16 Scott Schoeneweis.

Lawhorn hit .224 with four homers and 28 RBIs in 91 games for Sarasota.

The Reds have completed all but one of their trades for players to be named later. They still owe the Cleveland Indians a player in return for Todd Hollandsworth.

STAFF CHANGE - Ronnie Ortegon is the Reds' new minor league hitting coordinator.

He replaces Leon Roberts, the former Devil Rays hitting coach who held the position the last six seasons.

Ortegon spent the last two seasons as a coach with the Rangers' Class AA affiliate and three years before that coaching in the Phillies' farm system.

CONGRATULATIONS - Reds pitcher Brandon Claussen's wife Kelli gave birth to the couple's first child Tuesday.

Kenedi May Claussen weighed 7 pounds, 11 ounces.

Falls City Beer
10-14-2006, 01:13 PM
Gil is worthless. Wayne still has me wondering.

Oh, I'm no longer wondering. I already see Wayne's MO. And I don't like it all.