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redsupport
10-19-2006, 11:52 AM
But the Reds rally against Ziem, wow Lloyd McClendon removes his managerial robes and whacks two hits.

cumberlandreds
10-19-2006, 12:16 PM
Here's the box score from that game. That was Ziem's first MLB game and the next day he pitched his last MLB game. There was good reason I couldn't remember him. I see Balkin' Bob Davidson got in a balk call against Ziem too.:D





Game Played on Thursday, April 30, 1987 (D) at Riverfront Stadium
ATL N 1 1 0 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 - 8 10 2
CIN N 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 0 1 - 9 15 2
BATTINGAtlanta Braves AB R H RBI BB SO PO A
James cf 6 1 1 0 0 1 4 0
Oberkfell 3b 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 2
Perry 1b 5 0 0 1 0 1 13 2
Murphy rf 4 1 1 0 1 1 2 0
Griffey lf 5 2 2 2 0 0 1 0
Ramirez ss 4 1 0 0 1 0 2 2
Virgil c 5 1 2 1 0 2 7 2
Hubbard 2b 5 1 1 1 0 0 3 4
Palmer p 3 1 2 3 0 0 0 1
Dedmon p 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Garber p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Acker p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
Nettles ph 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
Ziem p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Olwine p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 44 8 10 8 2 6 31 15
FIELDING -
DP: 2. Oberkfell-Hubbard-Perry, Acker-Virgil-Perry.
E: Perry (2), Ramirez (1).
PB: Virgil (2).
BATTING -
2B: James (8,off Power); Griffey (4,off Power); Hubbard (7,off Power).
HR: Griffey (4,2nd inning off Power 0 on 0 out); Palmer (1,4th inning off Power
2 on 2 out); Virgil (3,6th inning off Murphy 0 on 1 out).
Team LOB: 5.
Cincinnati Reds AB R H RBI BB SO PO A
Daniels lf 6 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
Concepcion ss 5 3 1 0 1 0 1 2
Parker rf 6 2 4 2 0 1 1 0
Davis cf 5 1 1 3 1 2 6 0
Bell 3b 4 2 2 0 2 0 1 3
McClendon c 6 1 2 2 0 0 7 1
Francona 1b 6 0 2 0 0 0 15 1
Oester 2b 5 0 3 1 0 2 1 4
Power p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Garcia ph 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Murphy p 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2
O'Neill ph 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
Williams p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Robinson p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Stillwell ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Franco p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Jones ph 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Landrum p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 44 9 15 8 6 5 33 14
FIELDING -
DP: 1. Williams-Concepcion-Francona.
E: Oester (5), Robinson (2).
BATTING -
2B: McClendon (1,off Dedmon); Oester (2,off Acker).
HR: Parker (8,3rd inning off Palmer 1 on 0 out); Davis (7,9th inning off Garber
2 on 0 out).
SH: Power (1,off Palmer).
HBP: Jones (2,by Acker).
Team LOB: 12.
PITCHINGAtlanta Braves IP H R ER BB SO HR
Palmer 6 7 2 1 3 3 1
Dedmon 2 3 4 4 2 2 0
Garber 0.1 2 2 2 1 0 1
Acker 1.2 2 0 0 0 0 0
Ziem L(0-1) 0.1 1 1 0 0 0 0
Olwine 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 10.1 15 9 7 6 5 2
Cincinnati Reds IP H R ER BB SO HR
Power 4 6 7 3 0 3 2
Murphy 2 2 1 1 1 0 1
Williams 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Robinson 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
Franco 1 0 0 0 0 2 0
Landrum W(2-1) 2 0 0 0 1 1 0
Totals 11 10 8 4 2 6 3
Dedmon faced 2 batters in the 9th inning
BK: Ziem (1).
HBP: Acker (1,Jones).
Umpires: Harry Wendelstedt, Terry Tata, Jerry Crawford, Bob Davidson
Time of Game: 3:06 Attendance: 21214
Starting Lineups:

dabvu2498
10-19-2006, 12:28 PM
Hard to believe McClendon got the start that day over Sal Butera.

redsupport
10-19-2006, 12:34 PM
I agree, Butera had been raking the ball, his hitting was timely his productivity Herculean, in fact not since the legendary Hal Bevan or Jesse Gonder, had the likes of such a plenipotentiary slugger like Butera, been on the Reds. To this day I believe Butera could outperform Bench

Always Red
10-19-2006, 12:39 PM
The mighty McGriff never got a fair shot, and now I know it was Butera's promise that led to Terry's demise.

redsupport
10-19-2006, 12:43 PM
McGriff and Brad Gulden were key, they proctored the great draft pick Dave van Gorder

lollipopcurve
10-19-2006, 12:48 PM
Donald Scott himself was the proto-Gulden, a foreshadowing of Reed.

dabvu2498
10-19-2006, 12:52 PM
How could we overlook the salubrious hurling of one Thomas William Landrum, no relation to Tito of Cardinals fame?

Always Red
10-19-2006, 12:58 PM
van Gorder; I rue the day all that talent escaped the Queen City, only to find a final home on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay.

Roy Tucker
10-19-2006, 01:01 PM
Speaking of Tito, Terry Francona played 1B for the Reds that day.

Francona, now manager of the Red Sox, has been nicknamed "Tito" which was his dad's nickname (his actual name was John Patsy Francona but we won't go there).

And I had my picture taken with the original Tito Francona circa 1962 with my dad and brother at an SI magazine function at Cleveland's Municipal Stadium.

So now you know the rest of the story...

maniem
10-19-2006, 01:01 PM
Hard to believe the Reds had 3 future major league managers in the starting lineup that day (Bell, Francona, and McClendon), and almost a fourth with Oester (until he got the shaft from Jimbo)...That must have been a team that knew how "to play the right way"...Narron would have been proud...

redsupport
10-19-2006, 01:01 PM
Glenn Sutko

dabvu2498
10-19-2006, 01:03 PM
Hard to believe the Reds had 3 future major league managers in the starting lineup that day (Bell, Francona, and McClendon), and almost a fourth with Oester (until he got the shaft from Jimbo)...That must have been a team that knew how "to play the right way"...Narron would have been proud...

And Davey Collins, who will have to be surgically removed from Buddy Bell's hip, certainly would have gained managerial renown, had it not been for his track record as a girl's high school basketball coach.

Heath
10-19-2006, 04:52 PM
You are all missing the obvious point here for McClendon's start.

It's a Thursday Day game - hello get-a-way day.

dabvu2498
10-19-2006, 04:55 PM
You are all missing the obvious point here for McClendon's start.

It's a Thursday Day game - hello get-a-way day.

In that case, Wade Rowdon should have received the nod over Concepcion.