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SteelSD
10-25-2006, 02:31 AM
Considering the amount of comments on the "New Fall Television" thread, I figured it might be time to start a thread about "Heroes" the Series.

Great episode on Monday night. We find out that Nathan Petrelli can't just fly, but can fly faster than the speed of sound. Matt Parkman can still hear thoughts after his encounter with Claire's father and his henchman. Hiro Nakamura steals every scene he's in and is obviously the most powerful of the upstarts considering the he can bend the space/time continuum. Considering that he felt it important to visit Peter Petrelli in the past, is there something amiss in the future?

We didn't see Simone in the episode, but she may have powers (telekenesis?). Who is Sylar and what powers does he have? Is Peter Petrelli the only one who can take him on considering that Peter's powers mimic anyone he's close to? Is Mohinder Suresh's father really dead? Is Claire's father a bad guy or a good guy?

A lot of questions and not a lot of answers thusfar and that's something that makes the show worth watching weekly. What do you think?

savafan
10-25-2006, 02:45 AM
I'm intrigued by the show. I know it's early, but I need an answer to something soon or I'm going to burst. ;)

Seriously though, I'm liking what I'm seeing. Well written and well acted.

MrCinatit
10-25-2006, 06:25 AM
IMHO, the best new show to come out since Lost - but I think this one might actually have a higher ceiling. This could turn into one great show.
And good call on Hiro, Steel - by far my favorite character. When his future self met Peter in the subway, that was truly a classic "wow" television moment.
What is great about this series is how the imperfections of their powers are exploited. Hiro and the casino. Claire and her constant attempts to push the limits - just to see how unbreakable she is. Matt and his breakdown in the convenience store. Nikki's other half (yum yum).
I also like how they are taking things ever so slowly and letting us see them ever so slowly explore their powers and discover each other.

beb30
10-25-2006, 08:28 AM
In case you didn't see or figure it out Claire's father's henchman actually seems to be Nikki's Husband.

Coffeybro
10-25-2006, 08:43 AM
In case you didn't see or figure it out Claire's father's henchman actually seems to be Nikki's Husband.

Actually the Henchman and D.L. Hawkins (Nikki's husband) are two different people. If you go to the imdb website at http://imdb.com/title/tt0813715/ you can see the actors that play each part. Leonard Roberts plays DL while Jimmy Jean-Louis is created as Mysterious Man.

minus5
10-25-2006, 08:51 AM
I watched Monday's episode again last night. My wife didn't get to see it so she watched it and I took the opportunity to sit and see it again. So far, Hiro is also my favorite character. The way it looks like the characters are going to keep developing, who knows who the favorite might be in another month or two. What a great surprise this show has been.

RichRed
10-25-2006, 09:53 AM
I haven't been this excited about a new show in a long time. I was skeptical at first and had the show DVR'd for a few weeks before I even watched it. Now I can barely stand to wait a week to find out what's going to happen next.

I agree that Hiro's charisma steals the show. The complexity of the characters that unfolds each week is interesting to follow. Such a refreshing show in so many ways.

Unassisted
10-25-2006, 11:30 AM
Heard on the radio today that Heroes is the highest-rated show of the new season. It has been picked up for a full season by NBC.

As interwoven as these characters lives are, I think we're going to find out eventually that Niki is Claire's mother.

SteelSD
10-25-2006, 12:07 PM
As interwoven as these characters lives are, I think we're going to find out eventually that Niki is Claire's mother.

You may have something there.

BTW, be sure to check out the online Heroes graphic novel. Five chapters so far and it gives us a little more character background and bridges the gaps between the episodes.

Niki's husband, DL Hawkins, appears to have some sort of phasing powers. They alluded to that in Monday night's episode ("Houdini act"), and we see him slipping out of his cuffs and walking through walls in the online comic. Really cool stuff.

beb30
10-25-2006, 01:57 PM
Actually the Henchman and D.L. Hawkins (Nikki's husband) are two different people. If you go to the imdb website at http://imdb.com/title/tt0813715/ you can see the actors that play each part. Leonard Roberts plays DL while Jimmy Jean-Louis is created as Mysterious Man.

Well i guess that would make sense, but the really look alike then plus Nikki had a tattoo on her back (as seen when she was on top of peters brother) that was the same sybol that the henchman wore around his neck

GIK
10-25-2006, 02:00 PM
I guarantee you they're not the same. The guy who is playing DL was also a character on 'Smallville' - and he's not the same guy as the 'henchman'.

I'm really digging this show. Two thumbs up.

beb30
10-25-2006, 02:02 PM
As interwoven as these characters lives are, I think we're going to find out eventually that Niki is Claire's mother.

While It could make sense, Claire would seem a little old to be Nikki's daughter however I guess that could be a reason why she was given up to a foster home....

beb30
10-25-2006, 02:03 PM
I guarantee you they're not the same. The guy who is playing DL was also a character on 'Smallville' - and he's not the same guy as the 'henchman'.

I'm really digging this show. Two thumbs up.

Well Like said above its seen already that they are too different characters who plays them. I just wonder about why Nikki has the same tatoo on her back as the 'henchman'

Coffeybro
10-25-2006, 04:08 PM
Well i guess that would make sense, but the really look alike then plus Nikki had a tattoo on her back (as seen when she was on top of peters brother) that was the same sybol that the henchman wore around his neck

That symbols is everywhere. Here are some other places.

1. Geometry Book- There was a scene when Claire was going in her locker at school and the sign was drawing on the paper end of it. To the right of the word "Geometry".

2. Laptop- Mohinder Suresh was looking at the gibberish going across the laptop screen looking Matrix esque graphic. If you look very closely you will notice that the sign is repeatedly going across the screen from right to left.

3. Future Hiro's Sword: On the handle of the nodachi Hiro has strapped across his back in the subway scene. This can be seen better on Episode 5: Hiros

4. Isaac's Painting and Comics: It shows up a couple of times in Isaac's art.

5. Photo's in Sylar's room: Several of the photos in Sylar's room when Mohinder finds it has the it.

6. Swiming Pool: It shows up in the pool at the crime scene Matt is at in the form of floating objects.

I'm sure there are other places it shows up that have been missed.

beb30
10-25-2006, 04:43 PM
You're pretty observant I'll have to look at the webisodes and see if I see them

wolfboy
10-25-2006, 05:57 PM
If anyone misses the show, you can go to nbc.com and view the last episode to air online. If anyone has missed some of the older episodes, and has an interest in finding them online, send me a PM. I know people who know people. :laugh:

Puffy
10-25-2006, 06:47 PM
What sucks is this series will be going up against 24 come January.

Stupid TV executives.

Red in Chicago
10-25-2006, 07:29 PM
this is the only new show that i'm watching this year...i absolutely love it...

GIK
10-25-2006, 08:13 PM
What sucks is this series will be going up against 24 come January.

Stupid TV executives.

And that is why God created Tivo.

zombie-a-go-go
10-26-2006, 04:20 PM
Sylar is Future-Peter, who finds out that by eating people's brains he can steal their powers permanently. Future-Peter and Future-Hiro fought each other, and though Future-Hiro hurt Future-Peter (you look different without your scar), Future-Peter stole some of Future-Hiro's mojo to shunt himself back in time and take out the Heroes before they become aware enough of their abilities to defeat him.

That's my theory. Oh, and this is the only new series of the season I'm watching. Not only is it genre, it's good genre.

beb30
10-26-2006, 10:42 PM
Sylar is Future-Peter, who finds out that by eating people's brains he can steal their powers permanently. Future-Peter and Future-Hiro fought each other, and though Future-Hiro hurt Future-Peter (you look different without your scar), Future-Peter stole some of Future-Hiro's mojo to shunt himself back in time and take out the Heroes before they become aware enough of their abilities to defeat him.

That's my theory. Oh, and this is the only new series of the season I'm watching. Not only is it genre, it's good genre.

um wow :confused:

Yachtzee
10-27-2006, 11:04 PM
Sylar is a brain-eating zombie, Peter is Harry Potter.

HumnHilghtFreel
10-28-2006, 02:05 AM
I just caught up with all the episodes. My question: do we know who the black guy that "hollows out" people and walks around with Claire's adoptive dad is? I was assuming he was Sylar, but I'm not sure if that's right at all.

pahster
10-28-2006, 10:12 AM
Anyone notice that the picture of Mohinder's father (from the back of his book) changed from one of Erick Avari to some random guy?

TeamCasey
10-28-2006, 04:56 PM
Someone give me a heads up when they start to show repeats from the beginning. I'd like to pick up this show.

Coffeybro
10-28-2006, 07:43 PM
TeamCasey: All of the shows are available online if you want to catch up.

Tommyjohn25
10-31-2006, 04:23 PM
So what did everyone think of last nights episode? Some pretty good plot turns I thought, this show could potentially run for a very, very long time.

RFS62
10-31-2006, 04:31 PM
After reading all these great reviews, I watched it last night for the first time. I agree, it's a pretty cool show.

I went to their website, and they only have last nights show available for replay. Does anyone know if you can see the first 5 shows from anywhere online?

Puffy
10-31-2006, 05:29 PM
I'm thinking maybe that Ali Larter's character is Sylar - the alter ego

DoogMinAmo
10-31-2006, 11:55 PM
Is Ali Larter's character dead? It was made to seem so, but I think not.

Puffy, interesting theory, but why did they say "only take the one" when they kidnapped Petrelli from the hotel room? It would imply that they are aware of her powers, but are not working with her.

What do you think the powers of the female mole are, if any? Why is it so important to keep Suresh around?

So many more questions. A great show. Smallville for a older, larger audience.

MrCinatit
11-01-2006, 07:24 AM
I'm thinking maybe that Ali Larter's character is Sylar - the alter ego

The first few weeks of Heroes reminds me very much of the first season of Lost - It is amazing and a lot of fun to not only speculate what is going on, but to see the others do the same. And, it will be interesting to see how we change our perceptions and how right or wrong we are in the future.

That said, the scene with the two Nikkies in bed with her ex...best moment in television history.
Ever.

Puffy
11-01-2006, 09:47 AM
Yeah, actually I don't think Nikki/Alter ego is Sylar (although maybe - she seems to have left her child with that woman a lot with no explanations). Plus, it seems her husband is the "good guy" in all this and she might be the evil one.

Really, I like Zombie's theory best - but I refuse to admit that cause Zombie has a big enough ego without me complimenting him.

SteelSD
11-01-2006, 12:13 PM
Yeah, actually I don't think Nikki/Alter ego is Sylar (although maybe - she seems to have left her child with that woman a lot with no explanations). Plus, it seems her husband is the "good guy" in all this and she might be the evil one.

Really, I like Zombie's theory best - but I refuse to admit that cause Zombie has a big enough ego without me complimenting him.

Unless imdb.com is throwing us a curveball (go look at the cast list), Sylar isn't Nikki/Jessica (what her alter ego is called by the writers) or Peter. He's a different character altogether.

Yachtzee
11-01-2006, 07:07 PM
Unless imdb.com is throwing us a curveball (go look at the cast list), Sylar isn't Nikki/Jessica (what her alter ego is called by the writers) or Peter. He's a different character altogether.

I've heard that Sylar is very Sharpe. ;)

SteelSD
11-01-2006, 10:42 PM
I've heard that Sylar is very Sharpe. ;)

Cool beans that they got a solid actor to play Sylar. The character is obviously after the cheerleader to steal her Achilles-like invulnerability and tends to be tempted by objects of power so obviously they needed a real talented fellow to play someone so complex. If they keep up casting like this, the show could soon turn into a prime time national treasure. What I'm still wondering is how they're going to get the whole hero council together in an effort to destroy the "one" and how they're going to get everyone from Vegas and Texas to the north country of NYC.

:D

wolfboy
11-01-2006, 11:54 PM
After reading all these great reviews, I watched it last night for the first time. I agree, it's a pretty cool show.

I went to their website, and they only have last nights show available for replay. Does anyone know if you can see the first 5 shows from anywhere online?

You can try heroeswire.com, but they are spotty. I am not able to watch the show on Mondays, so I catch them when I can (just watched this week's episode). I have copies of each of the episodes so far. If you send me a PM, I might be able to get them to you.

minus5
11-02-2006, 09:27 AM
I watched Monday's episode last night. Wow. This show is like a rush of adrenaline. I think after every episode I have turned to my wife and just said "holy sh**" That sums it up pretty much every week.

TRF
11-02-2006, 09:46 AM
Just catching up to this thread, but I have seen the series from the beginning.

freaking awesome.

My wife, she who hates comics and comic book movies, loves the show. All my kids watch it, 2 girls and a boy ages 8, 14, 17.

It's so much better than X-Men III, that I was really disappointed in that movie. (Actually, I would have been disappointed had I never seen Heroes. That movie was an incredible pile of crap. But I digress.)

One of my favorite aspects of the show is that some episodes we don't see certain characters. No cop, no Nathan this week.

Hiro is awesome, but Claire is the best character. On some level, every character is relishing their powers. Even Nathan and Nikki. Claire sees them the way a teenage cheerleader would. She sees herself as a freak, but her moral center says she will try to do the right thing. She doesn't have the life experience yet to know what the right thing is, so she makes mistakes, like ramming a car into a brick wall.

Right now, Heroes and House are pretty much it for me. Can't wait for Eureka and Psyche to return.

Puffy
11-02-2006, 10:16 AM
I just called my cable company and upgraded to digital cable so I could get a DVR - all because 24 and Heroes will be up against one another in January.

And if they needed it I would be happy to hide the cheerleader in my room to save her. Disappoint her as well, but dammit she'll be safe!

Tommyjohn25
11-02-2006, 10:22 AM
I just called my cable company and upgraded to digital cable so I could get a DVR - all because 24 and Heroes will be up against one another in January.

And if they needed it I would be happy to hide the cheerleader in my room to save her. Disappoint her as well, but dammit she'll be safe!

Puffy, you will never go back to "non-DVR" T.V. again. DVR freakin rules, I just got it myself a couple of months ago. Be prepared to put on about ten pounds, just warning you. ;)

Red Leader
11-02-2006, 10:37 AM
I just called my cable company and upgraded to digital cable so I could get a DVR - all because 24 and Heroes will be up against one another in January.

And if they needed it I would be happy to hide the cheerleader in my room to save her. Disappoint her as well, but dammit she'll be safe!

Easy there, big guy. You've got two more years before she'll be legal.

I'd also like to give a shout out to DVR. It rules. Wouldn't know what I'd do without it.

Puffy
11-02-2006, 11:10 AM
Easy there, big guy. You've got two more years before she'll be legal.

I'd also like to give a shout out to DVR. It rules. Wouldn't know what I'd do without it.

Na - she's 17. Thats legal in Florida.

TRF
11-02-2006, 11:13 AM
Na - she's 17. Thats legal in Florida.

ok... ew.

I mean my daughter is seventeen and also a cheerleader.

hmm.

I wonder, if i set her on fire...

nah.

RichRed
11-02-2006, 11:37 AM
I'd also like to give a shout out to DVR. It rules. Wouldn't know what I'd do without it.

Say bye-bye to commercials - it's freakin' great. DVR is one of those things I didn't know I needed until I got it. I love it in an almost unnatural way.

Red Leader
11-02-2006, 11:40 AM
ok... ew.

I mean my daughter is seventeen and also a cheerleader.

hmm.

I wonder, if i set her on fire...

nah.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumbup:

Tyler Durden
11-06-2006, 12:24 AM
You can download past episodes of Heroes on iTunes, they are $1.99 each.

HotCorner
11-06-2006, 11:56 AM
Say bye-bye to commercials - it's freakin' great. DVR is one of those things I didn't know I needed until I got it. I love it in an almost unnatural way.

I wish they had it for radio.

savafan
11-06-2006, 12:43 PM
I no longer have television, but I don't want to miss out on what's happening with this show. Is there any free way to view the episodes online?

beb30
11-06-2006, 12:51 PM
I no longer have television, but I don't want to miss out on what's happening with this show. Is there any free way to view the episodes online?

Yep u can view all webisodes as they call it at NBC.com for free.

savafan
11-06-2006, 12:55 PM
Yep u can view all webisodes as they call it at NBC.com for free.

Sweet!

Puffy
11-06-2006, 01:05 PM
Big episode tonight. Lots of questions need to be addressed!

FutureRedsGM
11-06-2006, 02:33 PM
Any predictions for tonight's episode?

Red Leader
11-06-2006, 02:38 PM
The cheerleader formerly presses charges against Puffy calling him "that creepy, old dude."

beb30
11-06-2006, 04:59 PM
Claire.....giggity giggity

Puffy
11-06-2006, 05:07 PM
In the USA Today television guide it says, "Niki tells......"

So we know Ali Larter's character is not dead (not that anyone would have thought that)

LoganBuck
11-06-2006, 10:13 PM
Interesting show tonight. We now see that Mica does indeed have powers.

I wonder what the marks on the neck of (insert name of Detective guy) are?

A couple of hints at costumes tonight, I hope they don't go that far.

I do like the preview for next week. Looks like we learn more about Claire's father and maybe some insight as to whether he is good or evil.

TRF
11-07-2006, 03:56 PM
The cop wasn't the only one with the marks. And I am getting the heel turn vibe from him. Nikki too.

Someone really needs to let the mimic know the nature of his powers. I wonder if he keeps them, or if it is a proximity/length of time thing. If he keeps them, then he's the most powerful of them all.

I'm loving that Mica's dad is actually a good guy. At least deep down.

I'm betting Claire's dad has an agenda that will get eventually pushed aside by his love for his daughter. In other words, face turn. Those are gradual, but we are seeing the beginnings of it now.

I haven't felt this good about a show since Firefly. Just outstanding. Battlestar Galactica has been really good too.

Puffy
11-07-2006, 04:01 PM
The cop wasn't the only one with the marks. And I am getting the heel turn vibe from him. Nikki too.

Someone really needs to let the mimic know the nature of his powers. I wonder if he keeps them, or if it is a proximity/length of time thing. If he keeps them, then he's the most powerful of them all.

I'm loving that Mica's dad is actually a good guy. At least deep down.

I'm betting Claire's dad has an agenda that will get eventually pushed aside by his love for his daughter. In other words, face turn. Those are gradual, but we are seeing the beginnings of it now.

I haven't felt this good about a show since Firefly. Just outstanding. Battlestar Galactica has been really good too.

I don't know about the cop - I don't see the turn like you do. And Mica's Dad is a good guy. I think that is pretty evident.

SteelSD
11-07-2006, 08:10 PM
The cop wasn't the only one with the marks. And I am getting the heel turn vibe from him. Nikki too.

I dunno. Seems like a genuinely good guy, but maybe the wife's affair pushed him over the edge? And I look at Nikki/Jessica as the Hulk with a nasty agenda. Jessica is evil, but if Nikki can gain control, I think this is more of a wild-card character.


Someone really needs to let the mimic know the nature of his powers. I wonder if he keeps them, or if it is a proximity/length of time thing. If he keeps them, then he's the most powerful of them all.

If you mean Peter, then I think it's been established that he loses them after a short time or when the "super" leaves the vicinity.


I'm loving that Mica's dad is actually a good guy. At least deep down.

He's a lot more buff than Kitty Pryde, too. But alas, with different parts and no Lockheed.

And, IMHO, many of the characters are strikingly similar to characters from current and past X-Men books.


I'm betting Claire's dad has an agenda that will get eventually pushed aside by his love for his daughter. In other words, face turn. Those are gradual, but we are seeing the beginnings of it now.

Now, this is just a guess, but I have a feeling that Claire's dad might just be a good guy who's trying to "catalogue" the heros and gain an appreciation for their power levels. After all, the Haitian obviously has the power to mind wipe folks, but Matt Parkman is just fine after his abduction.

It's also possible that he's got a power himself and I'd suggest teleportation because he sure bounces around a lot with his Haitian henchman and very quickly.


I haven't felt this good about a show since Firefly. Just outstanding. Battlestar Galactica has been really good too.

Oh, yeah. This is a heck of a show. I was a little suspect at first because I wasn't sure how the topic would translate to television (and because of the large cast), but it's a real winner. All they have to do is make sure they don't go all Twin Peaks after the initial storyline is wrapped up.

Other musings below. Keep in mind they're just my opinions, but they might include potential spoilers- be advised:











The "nuclear man" who was arrested (can't remember his character's name) isn't Sylar. But, IMHO, he is the cause of the explosion that takes out New York. My theory is that Sylar's power is that he's able to absorb other powers but needs a certain piece of the character's brain in order to do so. In the "bad" timeline (where NY blows up), he locates the "nuclear man" after killing Claire (thus gaining regeneration), defeats him and opens him up- an event that triggers a huge explosion alluded to in the hospital room (i.e. the nuclear man doesn't know what would happen if the cops shoot him). Sort of like the Parasite ripping open Captain Atom in "Kingdom Come"- which destroyed Kansas.

From what I've seen, Sylar's already got at least telekenisis, flash freeze, magnetism, and either flying or super speed along with a couple others we probably haven't seen yet (he's killed a few folks for their powers by now).

However, in the alternate "good" timeline, Peter shows up to save Claire from Sylar in time to prevent the disaster. He's really the only one who could considering that proximity would give him all of Sylar's powers and Claire's regeneration.

Tyler Durden
11-07-2006, 09:41 PM
Yeah, well what do you know?? ;)

How's it going, Steel? Long time no see.

Yachtzee
11-07-2006, 10:33 PM
And, IMHO, many of the characters are strikingly similar to characters from current and past X-Men books.


I was thinking that too, but then I realized that there have just been so many mutants in the X-men universe that it's kind of hard to do a show about people developing special mutant powers without quite a few similarities.

LoganBuck
11-07-2006, 10:51 PM
I dunno. Seems like a genuinely good guy, but maybe the wife's affair pushed him over the edge? And I look at Nikki/Jessica as the Hulk with a nasty agenda. Jessica is evil, but if Nikki can gain control, I think this is more of a wild-card character.



If you mean Peter, then I think it's been established that he loses them after a short time or when the "super" leaves the vicinity.



He's a lot more buff than Kitty Pryde, too. But alas, with different parts and no Lockheed.

And, IMHO, many of the characters are strikingly similar to characters from current and past X-Men books.



Now, this is just a guess, but I have a feeling that Claire's dad might just be a good guy who's trying to "catalogue" the heros and gain an appreciation for their power levels. After all, the Haitian obviously has the power to mind wipe folks, but Matt Parkman is just fine after his abduction.

It's also possible that he's got a power himself and I'd suggest teleportation because he sure bounces around a lot with his Haitian henchman and very quickly.



Oh, yeah. This is a heck of a show. I was a little suspect at first because I wasn't sure how the topic would translate to television (and because of the large cast), but it's a real winner. All they have to do is make sure they don't go all Twin Peaks after the initial storyline is wrapped up.

Other musings below. Keep in mind they're just my opinions, but they might include potential spoilers- be advised:











The "nuclear man" who was arrested (can't remember his character's name) isn't Sylar. But, IMHO, he is the cause of the explosion that takes out New York. My theory is that Sylar's power is that he's able to absorb other powers but needs a certain piece of the character's brain in order to do so. In the "bad" timeline (where NY blows up), he locates the "nuclear man" after killing Claire (thus gaining regeneration), defeats him and opens him up- an event that triggers a huge explosion alluded to in the hospital room (i.e. the nuclear man doesn't know what would happen if the cops shoot him). Sort of like the Parasite ripping open Captain Atom in "Kingdom Come"- which destroyed Kansas.

From what I've seen, Sylar's already got at least telekenisis, flash freeze, magnetism, and either flying or super speed along with a couple others we probably haven't seen yet (he's killed a few folks for their powers by now).

However, in the alternate "good" timeline, Peter shows up to save Claire from Sylar in time to prevent the disaster. He's really the only one who could considering that proximity would give him all of Sylar's powers and Claire's regeneration.

Good calls Steel, I too think that Claire's father is actually a good guy, on the side of the government trying to keep tabs on all the supers. It has been brought up that when Claire was very young she had some sort of medical condition, and that she spent time in the hospital. Perhaps some sort of testing and or experimentation went on with her. This period could have been the alert the government needed to realize what was going on.

I think Claire's powers are so important to the storyline just like Wolverine's are to him. The ability to regenerate would make Syler unstoppable. Claire obviously can not defend herself, as evidenced by the attempted rape and subsequent temporary homicide.

What if the markings are actually some sort of tracking system, like a GPS tag of some sort for "supers". Or maybe they are kill switches?

What does everyone make of Linderman? He sure is involved with alot of the supers, and his name pops up alot. He purchased the paintings, and that sealed it for me. He is in this deep.

SteelSD
11-08-2006, 12:59 AM
Yeah, well what do you know?? ;)

How's it going, Steel? Long time no see.

Dangit, Tyler!

PM me with where the heck you are now. Wherever it is, you can bet I'll come down to visit.

SteelSD
11-08-2006, 01:10 AM
What if the markings are actually some sort of tracking system, like a GPS tag of some sort for "supers". Or maybe they are kill switches?

Could be a tracking tag. Or it could be a "level" tag. For example, Matt Parkman has at least one-sided telepathy (he can hear, but we haven't seen him project). That may make him a Level 2 "super". Peter, Nathan, Isaac, Hiro, and maybe Claire are Level 1. And consider that Claire's father left Niki in the bed while taking Nathan and didn't mind-wipe Parkman. It's possible that HRG (Horn-Rimmed-Glasses = Claire's Fater) is only interested in the most powerful.


What does everyone make of Linderman? He sure is involved with alot of the supers, and his name pops up alot. He purchased the paintings, and that sealed it for me. He is in this deep.

I think Linderman has powers as well, but I'm not sure we'll see him anytime soom. I think he'll remain in the shadows until the current storyline is over. I think he's a Dr. Doom type.

SteelSD
11-08-2006, 01:25 AM
I was thinking that too, but then I realized that there have just been so many mutants in the X-men universe that it's kind of hard to do a show about people developing special mutant powers without quite a few similarities.

That's true, but Hiro, Niki/Jessica, Sylar, and "nuclear man" (Holocaust is the closest) really don't have X-Men comps.

Hiro's powers are nearly unprecedented in comics even though DC is more free with that power than Marvel. Maybe my memory is lapsing, but I can't remember a character with that kind of immediate chrono-control. I consider him the most powerful of all the characters. His only foil is a character who can either match him (Peter) or who can cancel his power (Leech- X-Men).

TRF
11-08-2006, 09:22 AM
I dunno. Seems like a genuinely good guy, but maybe the wife's affair pushed him over the edge?

bingo. I think an affair with the FBI agent is looming, and then some kind of accidental death, followed by a self "greater good" arguement for everything he does. At least that's the direction I'd take.

I'm thinking Peter doesn't yet understand the nature of his powers. He keeps referring to the ability to fly, which I believe he only borrows from his brother. Hiro probably should have clued him into this.

I see the FBI agent recruiting Mica and his dad.



Now, this is just a guess, but I have a feeling that Claire's dad might just be a good guy who's trying to "catalogue" the heros and gain an appreciation for their power levels. After all, the Haitian obviously has the power to mind wipe folks, but Matt Parkman is just fine after his abduction.

Agreed on Claire's dad. Kind of a mini Prof. X. without the cool haircut.

Off topic a bit. Isn't it amazing how much better Civil War is than Infinite Crisis?

TRF
11-08-2006, 09:27 AM
That's true, but Hiro, Niki/Jessica, Sylar, and "nuclear man" (Holocaust is the closest) really don't have X-Men comps.

Hiro's powers are nearly unprecedented in comics even though DC is more free with that power than Marvel. Maybe my memory is lapsing, but I can't remember a character with that kind of immediate chrono-control. I consider him the most powerful of all the characters. His only foil is a character who can either match him (Peter) or who can cancel his power (Leech- X-Men).

Actually there is a comp for Hiro, though i forget his name. Came from Bishops timeline, but required a ton of energy to power his jumps. Couldn't freeze time like Hiro, but that's as close as I can get. Sylar and Peter both compare favorably to Mimic, though Sylar's methods are a tad gross. Niki/Jessica could be similar to Monet, as far as the strength and dual personality goes, but that's a stretch.

Nuclear man could also be Sunfire.

cincinnati chili
11-11-2006, 08:04 AM
I know nothing about the topic you're discussing. I'd just like to point out that if you could just alter one letter in this thread title, it would be called:

Herpes- Season One (NBC)

Now that's a show I'd tune into every week.

Puffy
11-13-2006, 06:11 PM
Big episode tonight.

DoogMinAmo
11-13-2006, 09:46 PM
I missed the first ten minutes, there is 15 left, and I must say this episode is living up to the hype.

beb30
11-14-2006, 08:33 AM
Great episode last night, and I really can't wait for next weeks which will be even bigger

TRF
11-14-2006, 09:08 AM
Next week is huge. I'm hoping we haven't seen the last of the waitress. But the picture at the end might suggest otherwise. That Hiro hasn't returned does not bode well.

I'm also thinking HRG has a larger agenda that we will only see the beginning of this season. Next year I think he's more the focus as a bad guy. Though I doubt he realizes he's the bad guy.

Nuclear man escapes. I'm guessing he's the reason NY blows up, or Sylar kills him and does the job. That would be why he needs Claire, to regenerate after the explosion. Not sure why he needed the waitress though.

MrCinatit
11-14-2006, 09:44 AM
My take on the Hiro/Waitress thing is that Hiro want a little bit too far back in time, and met her way before he originally met her (hence he being at the birthday party).
Therefor, she is alive, and she and Hiro are living life as they would normally live it, as is everyone else - except for Andos, who seems to be unaware of the new timeline.
Of course, it is possible I am stating the obvious or have missed something obvious.

Tyler Durden
11-14-2006, 12:04 PM
Great episode last night. The thing I liked most is that Nikki wasn't in it.

LoganBuck
11-14-2006, 12:59 PM
Great episode last night. The thing I liked most is that Nikki wasn't in it.

No kidding.

Hiro gets a another chance to prove he is a hero. I liked the waitress, but the question is why did Sylar need her super memory? Wouldn't it have been easier to take down Hiro while he was in the bathroom?

HRG pulls a face turn. So is he a caring Dad, and what really went wrong around the time of Claire's birth/adoption?

Can someone please explain to me the little boy in Mohindar's dreams? Does Mohindar have powers? His sister was special, perhaps he is as well. What caused her demise and why?

How did Matt and Radioactive man know the guy was Haitian? Is HRG trying to manipulate their powers?

Did Claire's cheerleader outfit get ruined? We finally see her out of it, (no Puffy she is wearing something else).

Puffy
11-14-2006, 01:26 PM
And she looked gooooooooooood.

beb30
11-14-2006, 02:20 PM
I was kind of suprised we didnt see Micah or Nikki, and I dont mind looking at nikki :luvu:

jmcclain19
11-14-2006, 11:45 PM
Good show so far. Seems to get better every episode.

My wife bought the first five episodes off iTunes, and we watched them in the car on the drive to Vegas last weekend, and now we're hooked.

The file that Mohinder was holding, had some type of article about advanced "Sleep powers" in it, before the camera pans to the picture of the little boy. My bet is, that the boy has powers - something to do with dreams, and that is why his file was locked away in Mohinder's father's old office.

The Cheerleader's father, I really can't get a read on him. I like how the show is burning the candle at both ends with him, you see the intense compassion, and the fierceness, sometimes not that far apart.

wolfboy
11-15-2006, 12:21 AM
This last episode was great. I generally have to download the episodes on Tuesdays, so I try to avoid the thread until then. I like Steel's original thought that the radiation guy is the cause of the explosion in New York, or that Syler steals his powers and does it himself (after gaining the regeneration powers). Last week's episode seemed really slow to me. Counter that with this week, when we see Hiro, Ando, the waitress, and Syler all in the same diner within the first ten minutes. I really hope they can keep up with intensity like that.

jmcclain19
11-15-2006, 01:42 AM
I know nothing about the topic you're discussing. I'd just like to point out that if you could just alter one letter in this thread title, it would be called:

Herpes- Season One (NBC)

Now that's a show I'd tune into every week.

Can't say I'd want to "catch" that one.

Get it. Ha ha, "catch".

Yeah, it's a slow night.

HotCorner
11-15-2006, 09:54 AM
I believe the "little boy" is actually Mohinder's sister.

Puffy
11-15-2006, 11:19 AM
I believe the "little boy" is actually Mohinder's sister.

What is this - Brokeback Heroes?

Puffy
11-15-2006, 11:20 AM
Or maybe - The Crying Heroes?

HotCorner
11-15-2006, 12:13 PM
What is this - Brokeback Heroes?

Have you ever heard of the term "tomboy"? ;)

Tyler Durden
11-20-2006, 10:56 PM
You know, i have never had the opportunity to watch a really good show all the way through on DVD. I watched 24 from the beginning, I have watched this from the beginning. It would be nice to be able to watch one episode right after another.

Maybe I'll go buy the Wire on DVD...

Regardless, fantastic episode tonight. Looks like Eden can do the Jedi mind trick. That could be useful.

LoganBuck
11-21-2006, 12:23 AM
Peter is gonna get stuck with the murder of the other cheerleader?

So is Sylar now invincible as well? Because he took that fall and he didn't have healing powers.

Hiro left the waitresses company a few weeks before, and she still dies in Ando's timeline, I wonder what came up?

I really don't like Jessica/Nikki she is just annoying and so far I have a hard time seeing her greater purpose to the storyline.

jmcclain19
11-21-2006, 01:48 AM
Hope everyone likes lengthy suspense.

Looks like NBC is going to make Heroes take a six week break after the 11th show.

Tonight was the 9th show

http://www.heroeswire.com/heroes/no-heroes-for-six-weeks.html

HotCorner
11-21-2006, 09:47 AM
I believe the "little boy" is actually Mohinder's sister.)

Not so much. Woops. :redface:

TRF
11-21-2006, 12:16 PM
OUTSTANDING episode last night. Looks like Peter is on the hook for Claire's rival's death. We need an episode that goes to Sylar's motives. And I still don't think the danger is gone. Sylar hasn't met with the nuclear man yet. But I have a few questions.

Why, if HRG knew when and where Sylar was going to attack Claire, didn't he just have Eden and the Haitian take him out? And how was he privy to that info? I'm having trouble seeing where Niki/Jessica fit in. The cop seems the odd man out too.

And that little boy is creepy.

The next episode is titled "Six Months Ago." Should reveal some interesting info about Mohinder's father, his death, and what he knew about Sylar.

Tyler Durden
11-21-2006, 05:26 PM
And what's going on with Hiro.

savafan
11-25-2006, 06:28 PM
Interesting new character coming on board.

http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=fed133ee-2545-4600-8073-0a626192faf0

FutureRedsGM
11-28-2006, 08:52 AM
Are folks losing interest in this show? This thread seems to be slowing dying away. I thought last nights episode was one of the best. It further entrenched Hiro as my favorite Hero. Although I am disappointed that the Heroes crew decided to do the split season (like Lost and Sopranos), I am definitely excited about next week!!

MrCinatit
11-28-2006, 08:55 AM
I have not lost one bit of interest in this show. Still heads and shoulders above the best new show of the season - and amongst my entrenched favorites of the season.
I had meant to post that I thought Hiro would have something to do with the "discovery" of our other heros when he went into the past - but it looks like I am way off.
For some reason, though, I have a feeling we have not seen the last of the waitress.

Yachtzee
11-28-2006, 09:23 AM
Someone give me a heads up when they start to show repeats from the beginning. I'd like to pick up this show.

If you have SciFi channel, it looks like they are having a marathon coming up tomorrow, Nov. 29.

Yachtzee
11-28-2006, 09:46 AM
I'm still watching. I love this show.

So it looks like listing Sean Bean as Sylar was an IMDB boondoggle.

I thought looking back at what happened to Nathan was interesting. Could it be that the psychic connection between the Petrelli boys is so strong that Peter can actually make Nathan use his powers? It looked to me like Nathan's flight out of the car was involuntary, and Peter waking up from a dream right after than with his arm in the air made it seem like Peter had psychicly "pulled" Nathan out of the car.

It looks like Sylar's original power was the ability to look inside something and understand what was "abnormal" about it. Great power to have if you are a doctor, terrible if you're a lunatic. So now we know (as if we couldn't guess) what Sylar is looking for, but what does he do with the brains after he gets them. How does he transfer one person's power to himself without surgery?

Puffy
11-28-2006, 09:58 AM
Boy, they really built up next week's episode as well.

And Yachtzee - good catch on Peter's arm being in the air. I never thought of that.

ochre
11-28-2006, 11:01 AM
My guess is that Nikki's not the one with power, but Jessica was/is. Part of her power allowed her to 'move' her psyche/persona into Nikki, or whatever. I think that would make/does make her/them a more interesting character(s).

As a comic book fan, I figure her husband survives the shot by phasing, but I'm sure the non-comic book fan audience buys into that suspense :)

It also might explain why HRG left Nikki (not Jessica at that point) in the bed when he grabbed Nathan.

TeamBoone
11-28-2006, 11:56 AM
I saw a commercial saying there is a Heroes marathon coming up... didn't say when, but rather to check your local listings.

RFS62
11-28-2006, 04:47 PM
http://www.scifi.com/heroes/

savafan
12-03-2006, 02:35 PM
Just watched last week's episode. I'm trying to figure out how Claire's dad is able to resist Eden's mind control power. Is this his power that he can fight off the powers of others?

dougdirt
12-03-2006, 04:20 PM
I think that his buddy, the guy that never talks helps him block out Eden. He is always around when she had tried it on him....

Maybe he does have his own power, but I never saw it that way.

savafan
12-03-2006, 04:45 PM
I think that his buddy, the guy that never talks helps him block out Eden. He is always around when she had tried it on him....



That's also a possibility. Hmmm...

TRF
12-04-2006, 10:05 AM
They hinted that was it with a look to him when she tried it.

Yachtzee
12-04-2006, 10:14 PM
Wow, another crazy episode with an added level of mystery.

DoogMinAmo
12-04-2006, 10:38 PM
My theory regarding the killing of the waitress: Her ability was accelerated cognition, she was offed because it enhances sylar's telekinetic powers.

It is going to suck waiting for 01.22.07.

Yachtzee
12-04-2006, 10:52 PM
Interesting thought. I hadn't really thought of how adding a power to someone already having a different power might affect the original power.

Now we've seen that Peter Petrelli's power can be dangerous if he gets near someone with a power Peter doesn't know how to control.

They really like to swing HRG back and forth between his interest in protecting his daughter and his interest in his job, and now it's pretty obvious that there is a level of secrecy beyond HRG.

Did anyone else think NBC was going to go the lame route and have Parkman die by trying too hard to read the Haitian's mind and give himselve an aneurism? I've noticed a tendency of NBC shows to have some big cliffhanger to draw you into the next episode, only to have the result be something lame. Yes, "ER", I'm talking about you.

DoogMinAmo
12-04-2006, 10:59 PM
I wonder if the season will have any closure, and a new adventure will begin next season. Or will it be the constant search for and battle with Sylar ala Alias?

beb30
12-05-2006, 03:08 PM
I read on the site that the show will be back Jan 1st

HumnHilghtFreel
12-05-2006, 03:17 PM
I just watched last night's episode on nbc.com

This has definitely become my favorite show. Every week has so much action and I can't wait for it to come back from its break

TeamBoone
12-05-2006, 09:14 PM
It appears that a mid-season "break" seems to be the newest trend for many of this year's programs.

I don't like it.

LoganBuck
12-05-2006, 10:33 PM
It appears that a mid-season "break" seems to be the newest trend for many of this year's programs.

I don't like it.

Agree and disagree we could have the reruns and clipshows intertwined with new episodes like Lost did last year. That really made me mad. If you didn't watch the reruns you would miss the nuggets throughout the year, like the funky commercials and previews for the following weeks show.

jmcclain19
12-12-2006, 03:32 AM
No Heroes tonight. Man did that suck. Five more weeks.

savafan
12-12-2006, 11:03 AM
You can watch every episode right now on nbc.com. Watch them over and over and over to get your fix. ;)

FutureRedsGM
01-10-2007, 10:45 AM
Heroes starts again next week. Here is an interesting interview with it's creator. Warning, there are some spoilers here:

http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700016231

Reds Fanatic
01-10-2007, 10:58 AM
Heroes starts again next week. Here is an interesting interview with it's creator. Warning, there are some spoilers here:

http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700016231
The show is off again next Monday because of the Golden Globes. Heroes will be back Jan. 22nd.

FutureRedsGM
01-10-2007, 11:13 AM
You are very correct. I am getting my shows mixed up. 24 starts next week!!!

beb30
01-10-2007, 02:18 PM
Man....premieres of Prison Break followed by Heroes back to back....Jan 22nd will be a great day...:D

LoganBuck
01-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Ok, the real question, which will you watch Heroes or 24?

I will not watch 24 unless I am doing it on the DVR, the cliffhangers at commercial break kill me. My DVR only has one tuner. So I will be recording Heroes a week later on SciFi.

I smell a poll.

wolfboy
01-11-2007, 01:14 AM
Heroes starts again next week. Here is an interesting interview with it's creator. Warning, there are some spoilers here:

http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700016231

I wonder why Syler would have wanted to remain in custody. I can't wait btw.

gonelong
01-11-2007, 05:29 PM
I wonder why Syler would have wanted to remain in custody. I can't wait btw.

Maybe he was hoping they would bring all the freaks to him and he could harvest them all at once?

GL

zombie-a-go-go
01-12-2007, 09:59 AM
I wonder why Syler would have wanted to remain in custody. I can't wait btw.

Maybe he wants another crack at Claire, and has somehow discerned/discovered that Bennett is her 'father.'

jmcclain19
01-22-2007, 11:35 PM
ok so I didn't think tonight's episode was one of their best efforts.

Maybe because I'm still smarting that we had to wait six weeks, and in the process, it took 10-15 minutes into the show to remember all the concurrent subplots going on.

Anyone want to take a guess at who Linderman is yet? My wife thinks its HRG - but I'm not sold on that one.

LoganBuck
01-23-2007, 12:45 AM
They basically hit restart on Heroes tonight, and the episode was very boring.

wolfboy
01-23-2007, 12:53 AM
They basically hit restart on Heroes tonight, and the episode was very boring.

I'd have to agree. With the long break, you would think they would make the episode a little more exciting. Essentially, they did a nice recap of what had already happened, and Hiro didn't get a sword. Oh well.

FutureRedsGM
01-23-2007, 09:11 AM
I disagree somewhat on "boring". Yes, the show was a bit slow since they had to recap everything, but the investigation of HRG, the intro of the invisible man, and the priceless dialog between Hiro and Nathan Petrelli made it well worth watching IMHO. I'm officially hooked again and can't wait until next week!!!

LoganBuck
01-23-2007, 12:58 PM
I disagree somewhat on "boring". Yes, the show was a bit slow since they had to recap everything, but the investigation of HRG, the intro of the invisible man, and the priceless dialog between Hiro and Nathan Petrelli made it well worth watching IMHO. I'm officially hooked again and can't wait until next week!!!

You are talking about two minutes worth of decent TV, and the rest was nearly unbearable. I guess my opinion is being corrupted by watching Heroes, and then the adrenaline fueled 24.

savafan
01-25-2007, 01:44 AM
Okay, I just watched this week's episode. Am I the only one growing tired of the Nikki/Jessica, DL, Micah storyline? It doesn't seem to serve to advance the plot any at all, nor relate to any of the other characters in the show.

HumnHilghtFreel
01-25-2007, 01:57 AM
Okay, I just watched this week's episode. Am I the only one growing tired of the Nikki/Jessica, DL, Micah storyline? It doesn't seem to serve to advance the plot any at all, nor relate to any of the other characters in the show.

I don't like her character either. I think the Micah character could end up turning into something though, but not enough light has been shed onto his abilities.

savafan
01-25-2007, 02:01 AM
I don't like her character either. I think the Micah character could end up turning into something though, but not enough light has been shed onto his abilities.

All we've really seen him do is take apart a computer that his grandfather gave him.

HumnHilghtFreel
01-25-2007, 02:03 AM
All we've really seen him do is take apart a computer that his grandfather gave him.

He also waved his hand over the broken payphone and it magically started working again.

savafan
01-25-2007, 02:06 AM
He also waved his hand over the broken payphone and it magically started working again.

Ah yes, I forgot that!

Yachtzee
01-25-2007, 09:35 AM
Okay, I just watched this week's episode. Am I the only one growing tired of the Nikki/Jessica, DL, Micah storyline? It doesn't seem to serve to advance the plot any at all, nor relate to any of the other characters in the show.

You can only hope that Linderman somehow ties these folks in with the rest. Otherwise their whole story just seems like an excuse to get screen time for eye candy (Ali Larter).

zombie-a-go-go
01-25-2007, 11:24 AM
You can only hope that Linderman somehow ties these folks in with the rest. Otherwise their whole story just seems like an excuse to get screen time for eye candy (Ali Larter).

Are Nikki, DL, and Micah still in NV? Because Peter's taking a plane out there, and Radioactive Teddy's there too, practicing his "Boom-Boom" skillz.

savafan
01-25-2007, 11:46 AM
I don't know that it's been mentioned yet, but it does appear that the ability to have powers may be genetic.

Yachtzee
01-25-2007, 01:00 PM
Are Nikki, DL, and Micah still in NV? Because Peter's taking a plane out there, and Radioactive Teddy's there too, practicing his "Boom-Boom" skillz.

Yep. It looked like DL and Micah were at the house in Las Vegas when they were visited by Linderman's henchman.

Yachtzee
01-25-2007, 01:02 PM
Speaking of Las Vegas, for some reason I keep expecting to see a dealer with a cajun accent who can pass energy to playing cards that can then be thrown like grenades. ;)

LoganBuck
01-25-2007, 04:11 PM
I don't know that it's been mentioned yet, but it does appear that the ability to have powers may be genetic.

I keep thinking that Mohinder will have powers, his sister did.

FutureRedsGM
01-25-2007, 04:18 PM
More Heroes scoop from the creator. There are some minor spoilers here:

http://www.tvguide.com/Magazine/Cover-Story/

jmcclain19
01-25-2007, 08:32 PM
I just found out, via Wikipedia, that Tim Kring - creator of Heroes - also wrote Teen Wolf Too.

Let me restate that. The writer and creator of one of the best shows on TV - also happen to write one of the worst movies of all time. Teen Wolf Too Tim? What were you thinking?

I forgive you Tim.

Johnny Footstool
01-29-2007, 11:14 AM
A friend of mine DVR'ed the first 11 episodes and I just finished watching them. Good show. Excellent storylines, but the acting and dialogue are fairly weak. I wish Joss Whedon was writing it.

A couple of points, don't know if they might be covered in the spoilers or not...

We know the brain is the source of the powers. Psychic Cop and Peter Petrelli both have severe headaches. Charley had a blood clot in her brain. Sylar looked at his first victim's head and said, "You're broken," which could mean he noticed an anomaly that gave the man powers, or it could mean he noticed something medically wrong.

Do the powers cause brain bleeding? Are they a death sentence -- a curse as well as a blessing?


Speaking of Las Vegas, for some reason I keep expecting to see a dealer with a cajun accent who can pass energy to playing cards that can then be thrown like grenades. ;)

"Full house. Nicely played, che're."

DoogMinAmo
01-29-2007, 10:15 PM
Talk about genuine excitement! Next week is a can't miss, CAN NOT MISS, episode.

Sylar is free, does he take out HRG?
Any guesses who Claire's dad is? Lindermann?
Is the invisible man lieing, were there others?
When do we meet Wireless?
Is Micah really a villain?

zombie-a-go-go
01-30-2007, 06:19 AM
Any guesses who Claire's dad is? Lindermann?

My guess is Nathan the philandering Senatorial candidate. He's got a thing for blondes, after all.

I doubt that's right, but it's the only guess I've got.

HumnHilghtFreel
01-30-2007, 08:25 AM
A couple small details I noticed in this episode. When Hiro and Ando are in the parking garage, the word "blind" is written on the wall. Not sure what that would mean though, if anything.

Also, in Micah's room, there's a painting on the wall that looks like an ink-blot test, maybe indicating something about his mom's mental problems.

DoogMinAmo
02-05-2007, 05:55 PM
Setup for a crazy good episode tonight...

marcshoe
02-05-2007, 10:52 PM
My guess is Nathan the philandering Senatorial candidate. He's got a thing for blondes, after all.

I doubt that's right, but it's the only guess I've got.

Looks like you only needed one guess.

zombie-a-go-go
02-06-2007, 08:27 AM
Looks like you only needed one guess.

On that note, however, I'm a bit annoyed by the way the show staggers these reveals. Now, I don't watch much television save for C-SPAN and CNN, so perhaps it's more commonplace a practice than I'm aware. Last week you have a teaser promo and build-up to "find out who Claire's father is," intimating that this reveal is going to be, if not the primary focus of the episode, at least a secondary or tertiary one.

Instead, what you get is the bare-bones of the reveal in the last few seconds of the episode, presumably so they can actually get to the meat of the issue next week - so tune in again!

Now, I'd be tuning in anyway, but I find the manner in which this was handled a bit ... not dishonest, really, but... patronizing, maybe? *shrug*

Regardless, I won the bet my wife and I had about the reveal, so it's all good. :cool:

zombie-a-go-go
02-06-2007, 08:29 AM
A couple small details I noticed in this episode. When Hiro and Ando are in the parking garage, the word "blind" is written on the wall. Not sure what that would mean though, if anything.

Also, in Micah's room, there's a painting on the wall that looks like an ink-blot test, maybe indicating something about his mom's mental problems.

When Peter landed on the cab, the advertisement on its roof was for the samurai exhibit at the museum. :)

Eccleston's got some good acting chops. I was impressed by him this episode.... much more than Ali "Over-Emote!" Larter's performance.

MrCinatit
02-06-2007, 08:36 AM
Invisible dude is quickly becoming one of my favorites, right after Hiro. What a fun and fantastic character he is.

Unassisted
02-06-2007, 09:12 AM
Did anyone else notice the license plate number on Hiro's dad's limo? NCC 1701

Those of you well-acquainted with George Takei's biggest gig in the 60s should be able to make the connection.

gonelong
02-06-2007, 09:34 AM
Did anyone else notice the license plate number on Hiro's dad's limo? NCC 1701

Those of you well-acquainted with George Takei's biggest gig in the 60s should be able to make the connection.

I didn't know what it meant outright, but I thought it was odd that they showed it so prominently so I paused it and googled it last night.

GL

MrCinatit
02-06-2007, 09:36 AM
Did anyone else notice the license plate number on Hiro's dad's limo? NCC 1701

Those of you well-acquainted with George Takei's biggest gig in the 60s should be able to make the connection.

It is little things like that I miss.
Then again, I was watching it on NBC.com, which has been uncooperative to the extreme lately.

Johnny Footstool
02-06-2007, 10:01 AM
When Peter landed on the cab, the advertisement on its roof was for the samurai exhibit at the museum. :)
One of the major themes of the show is that there are no accidents; everything is connected.


Eccleston's got some good acting chops. I was impressed by him this episode.... much more than Ali "Over-Emote!" Larter's performance.

While the plotting is excellent, I'm not a fan of the acting or the dialogue. I think both are mediocre at best. Nathan Petrelli is the only character with any real depth to him, and Adrian Pasdar manages to give him a lot of heart underneath his slippery exterior -- or at least keep you guessing about his motivations. Everyone else is very broadly-drawn.

The Onion's AV Club reviewed the show and wondered how fantastic it would be if someone like Joss Whedon was writing it. I agree wholeheartedly. I watched the "Firefly" series over Christmas, then followed it up with DVRs of the first 11 episodes of "Heroes". There's no comparison. The characters in "Firefly" are full of life; in "Heroes", they're as flat as a comic book.

Yachtzee
02-07-2007, 12:11 AM
I finallly got to see the latest episode. I never really thought that Peter could retain the power of others. I always figured his power was limited to mimicking others' powers. If the Invisible Man can show him how to control and recall the powers of others, Peter is now Sylar without having to kill people.

HumnHilghtFreel
02-07-2007, 09:11 AM
Things definitely got a lot more interesting. Which means next weeks show will probably be really slow:)

Unassisted
02-07-2007, 10:00 AM
Things definitely got a lot more interesting. Which means next weeks show will probably be really slow:)

Nah, February's a sweeps month. The networks expect shows to deliver the goods when they air this month. ;)

zombie-a-go-go
02-07-2007, 10:13 AM
I finallly got to see the latest episode. I never really thought that Peter could retain the power of others. I always figured his power was limited to mimicking others' powers. If the Invisible Man can show him how to control and recall the powers of others, Peter is now Sylar without having to kill people.

My current read on Peter is that he's like a battery - he swipes these powers from other people and stores them up for later use - but if he stores too much without expending any of them, he's gonna pop. Unfortunately for him, he instinctually absorbs power but doesn't know how to discharge it.

Also, I think "Claude" used to work for Bennett - or whoever Bennett's predecessor was - and escaped once he found out what the guy's true motives are.

Red Leader
02-07-2007, 04:12 PM
My current read on Peter is that he's like a battery - he swipes these powers from other people and stores them up for later use - but if he stores too much without expending any of them, he's gonna pop. Unfortunately for him, he instinctually absorbs power but doesn't know how to discharge it.

Also, I think "Claude" used to work for Bennett - or whoever Bennett's predecessor was - and escaped once he found out what the guy's true motives are.

You're a genius.

Johnny Footstool
02-07-2007, 05:22 PM
My current read on Peter is that he's like a battery - he swipes these powers from other people and stores them up for later use - but if he stores too much without expending any of them, he's gonna pop. Unfortunately for him, he instinctually absorbs power but doesn't know how to discharge it.

He's going to meet up with Nuclear Man at some point. I think that's going to be the source of the explosion.

He has Hiro's abilities stored up, too, from their early encounter on the train. He just doesn't know it.


Also, I think "Claude" used to work for Bennett - or whoever Bennett's predecessor was - and escaped once he found out what the guy's true motives are.

Bennett mentioned the invisible man was "an old friend," so there's a connection somewhere.

savafan
02-09-2007, 01:16 AM
Okay, I feel really stupid, but what does HRG stand for?

Yachtzee
02-09-2007, 10:16 AM
Okay, I feel really stupid, but what does HRG stand for?

(H)orn-(R)immed (G)lasses. Kind of in the tradition of X-Files fans refering to the shadowy government figure as CSM - Cigarette Smoking Man.

Johnny Footstool
02-09-2007, 11:09 AM
(H)orn-(R)immed (G)lasses. Kind of in the tradition of X-Files fans refering to the shadowy government figure as CSM - Cigarette Smoking Man.

It's unnecessary, though, since we now know HRG's name (Bennett).

creek14
02-09-2007, 11:28 AM
Is anyone bothered that Jessica beat the crap out of the shrink and then was released?

ochre
02-09-2007, 11:49 AM
Is anyone bothered that Jessica beat the crap out of the shrink and then was released?
Linderman seems to wield considerable influence. Just think, we haven't even met him yet... ...or have we?

Johnny Footstool
02-09-2007, 11:49 AM
Is anyone bothered that Jessica beat the crap out of the shrink and then was released?

Definitely. That was kind of a big plot hole.

So what if the murder charges were dropped? She still assaulted dozens of officers and her psychiatrist, and all that was caught on tape. I have a hard time believing Linderman's influence would be strong enough to get her released after all that.

DoogMinAmo
02-12-2007, 11:49 PM
Not too impressed with this week's show. Sylar is turning into a truy hatable villain though.

Sabo Fan
02-13-2007, 08:56 AM
Not too impressed with this week's show. Sylar is turning into a truy hatable villain though.

This week's episode was ok, nothing great. No Peter Petrelli in this episode, which I think was a first. Too bad too, because his little trip with the invisible guy is good stuff.

I'm really tired of the Nikki/Jessica storyline, even moreso than before because now it's at the expense of more interesting characters, namely her son and husband. I guess her story this week was slightly better than it has been, but still, she's not that compelling.

DoogMinAmo
02-13-2007, 12:41 PM
This week's episode was ok, nothing great. No Peter Petrelli in this episode, which I think was a first. Too bad too, because his little trip with the invisible guy is good stuff.

I'm really tired of the Nikki/Jessica storyline, even moreso than before because now it's at the expense of more interesting characters, namely her son and husband. I guess her story this week was slightly better than it has been, but still, she's not that compelling.

I have a feeling she is there to draw in more female viewers. I was watching the show with a female friend and she was loving the story line.

wolfboy
02-13-2007, 01:18 PM
I have a feeling she is there to draw in more female viewers. I was watching the show with a female friend and she was loving the story line.

The girl I am seeing is a huge fan of the show, but she's grown pretty tired of the Nikki story line. At least now it seems to be going somewhere (with the Nathan assignment).

zombie-a-go-go
02-13-2007, 01:26 PM
Sylar killed a Ramones fan.

My hatred for the cat has reached a new level.

Red Leader
02-13-2007, 01:29 PM
Sylar killed a Ramones fan.

My hatred for the cat has reached a new level.

:laugh: :laugh:

I was all geared up and ready to read your super genius review of this week's episode and this is what I get. See if I call you a genius again...

zombie-a-go-go
02-13-2007, 01:34 PM
:laugh: :laugh:

I was all geared up and ready to read your super genius review of this week's episode and this is what I get. See if I call you a genius again...

I've also got "Nathan's a dick." That do anything for you? ;)

For a moment, when Matt was hearing Niki/Jessica in the stairwell, I thought my pet theory that they're two people with bi-location abilities as opposed to one lady w/ a bad case of DID was actually holding water, but then I realized "oh, yeah, Matt reads minds." Der.

Red Leader
02-13-2007, 01:45 PM
I've also got "Nathan's a dick." That do anything for you? ;)

For a moment, when Matt was hearing Niki/Jessica in the stairwell, I thought my pet theory that they're two people with bi-location abilities as opposed to one lady w/ a bad case of DID was actually holding water, but then I realized "oh, yeah, Matt reads minds." Der.

Much better. :laugh:

You're a genius.

http://www.pokezam.com/anime/wile-e-coyote.jpg

Steve4192
02-13-2007, 06:36 PM
I have a feeling she is there to draw in more female viewers.

Nah.

She's there to provide guilt-free eye candy (as opposed to the guilt-ridden variety provided by jailbait Claire and her little cheerleading outfits).

DoogMinAmo
02-13-2007, 07:37 PM
The graphic novel on nbc.com more than makes up for the subpar episode, I heavily recommend reading it.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/

Answers some questions...

Yachtzee
02-13-2007, 07:54 PM
The graphic novel is good, but the whole Nikki/Jessica deal is played out. When they talk about "One hero flies, another one dies," I keep hoping someone takes out Nikki/Jessica. If they need eye candy, they can always bring Wireless into the picture from the graphic novels.

gonelong
02-14-2007, 09:28 AM
The graphic novel is good, but the whole Nikki/Jessica deal is played out. When they talk about "One hero flies, another one dies," I keep hoping someone takes out Nikki/Jessica. If they need eye candy, they can always bring Wireless into the picture from the graphic novels.

I read somewhere that Wireless will indeed be a character, I believe this season.

Also, someone dies, but because of the nature of flashbacks & Hiro's powers, they aren't completely gone from the show.

GL

Johnny Footstool
02-14-2007, 10:39 AM
Nah.

She's there to provide guilt-free eye candy (as opposed to the guilt-ridden variety provided by jailbait Claire and her little cheerleading outfits).

As evidenced by the many pointless shots of her riding the elevator with that evil smile on her face. I swear they cut to that shot 5 times.

On another note, how pathetic is Parkman the ex-cop? Jessica lies to his face, and he doesn't hear her think "I'm going to lie to him"?

He can hear thoughts, but he can't hear someone in high heels walk up right behind him?

wolfboy
02-16-2007, 06:17 PM
As evidenced by the many pointless shots of her riding the elevator with that evil smile on her face. I swear they cut to that shot 5 times.

On another note, how pathetic is Parkman the ex-cop? Jessica lies to his face, and he doesn't hear her think "I'm going to lie to him"?

He can hear thoughts, but he can't hear someone in high heels walk up right behind him?


For as strong as his ability should be, it has been pretty pathetic. He misses a hell of a lot. So far, his ability has only seemed to get him in trouble rather than out of it.

DoogMinAmo
02-19-2007, 10:31 PM
The show is getting very good, and next week seems like it will have a lot of answers.

Red in Chicago
02-19-2007, 11:20 PM
next week's show looks awesome!!!

Puffy
02-20-2007, 10:18 AM
The show is getting very good, and next week seems like it will have a lot of answers.

word. Answers!!

HumnHilghtFreel
02-20-2007, 10:37 AM
Peter's character went from being mildly intriguing for me to extremely bad*** in no time flat lol.

Can't wait for next weeks episode.

Johnny Footstool
02-20-2007, 10:51 AM
It was nice to see Peter finally "get it".

Parkman is still incredibly frustrating, though.

TRF
02-21-2007, 03:03 PM
Having a power and having wisdom are two different things.

The invisible man has wisdom and power. He has insight.

Parkman is a guy that's overwhelmed by the regular things in life. Oh and now he can read minds too. That's a tough adjustment. He tends to get swept up in things. I'd say he's one of my favorite characters.

Johnny Footstool
02-22-2007, 12:13 AM
I want to like him, I really do. In the first few episodes, he was my favorite. But I just can't root for someone so pathetic.

ochre
02-22-2007, 02:48 AM
I don't mind the Nikki/Jessica character(s) too much. I kind of just view her as a hawt Hulk without teh green/gray skin.

I think the problem(s) with the show are largely tied to the fact that there are too many primary characters still. It's hard to fully develop any of them with the individual story/screen time so fractuous/disjointed.

jmcclain19
02-22-2007, 03:12 AM
I would have to say Claire's father is the main reason I have enjoyed the show so much to this point.

How the shows writers have danced on that razor's edge of "love 'em or hate 'em" all season is great work - been refreshing from the usual straight out of a writers kit characters that permeate Television today.

Other than the obnoxious Nikki/Jessice story line, most of the writing has been excellent, in my humble opinion.

Yachtzee
02-22-2007, 09:34 AM
I love the show, other than the Nikki/Jessica storyline, and sadly, I think Sylar is getting played out. So much more potential, but he just seems like a very one-dimensional character with a lust for power(s).

minus5
02-22-2007, 11:03 AM
I felt kind of guilty because as I watched on Monday I was thinking to myself "Man I wish they would just kill off Simone. She is whiny and serve no purpose to the show"

Of course, I don't fell that gulity about it ;)

gonelong
02-22-2007, 12:32 PM
I felt kind of guilty because as I watched on Monday I was thinking to myself "Man I wish they would just kill off Simone. She is whiny and serve no purpose to the show"

Of course, I don't fell that gulity about it ;)

Its possible her purpose was to make Peter and the Painter mortal enemies.

GL

Steve4192
02-23-2007, 12:55 AM
I think Sylar is getting played out. So much more potential, but he just seems like a very one-dimensional character with a lust for power(s).

Doesn't that describe 99% of the villains in the comic book universe?

I think Pinky & the Brain summed up the average comic book villain pretty well.

Brain: "Come Pinky, we must prepare for tomorrow night"
Pinky: "Gee, Brain, what are we doing tomorrow night?"
Brain: "The same thing we do every night, Pinky ... try to take over the world!"

Puffy
02-26-2007, 12:35 PM
Big night tonight - answers, baby!!!!

DoogMinAmo
02-26-2007, 09:31 PM
So far, very very very interesting. This is a show I will HAVE to watch multiple times.

HumnHilghtFreel
02-26-2007, 10:04 PM
This was the best episode I've seen of ANY show in a long long time. Lots of answers, lots of intrigue for later on. I actually got glassy eyed in during that last scene(should I be admitting this?) lol

zombie-a-go-go
02-27-2007, 06:11 AM
The smart money says that Hiro's probably a foundling too, and not (Takei's character)'s biological son. Certainly helps explain why his father wasn't all that upset about his son gallivanting across the world on a quest - that Takei didn't grab Hiro's ear and pull him back home when he started going on about his destiny always seemed a little off to me until now.

Malcolm McDowell has been cast as Linderman, btw.

Puffy
02-27-2007, 09:59 AM
So, who was the hero Invisible Man was hiding that cost him his "life?"

Its safe to assume that "the hiding hero" is the one who Invisible Man trained first (as he alluded to with Peter). Maybe Nikki/Jessica's husband? Claire's mom (maybe she had help staging her death?)

It can't be the following: Peter, Parkman, Nuclear Man, Sylar, Paige, Painter dude, Hiro, Claire.

WebScorpion
02-27-2007, 01:18 PM
This was the best episode I've seen of ANY show in a long long time. Lots of answers, lots of intrigue for later on. I actually got glassy eyed in during that last scene(should I be admitting this?) lol

I agree. An awesome episode! The love/hate thing with HRG was in full force all night. I was hating him and loving him all at the same time at some points. I like the black and white flashbacks ... Hiro as a little kid was a cool surprise. In the scenes from next week, it looks like killing off Simone was a ploy to reveal her super powers. :eek:

Yachtzee
02-27-2007, 02:52 PM
So, who was the hero Invisible Man was hiding that cost him his "life?"

Its safe to assume that "the hiding hero" is the one who Invisible Man trained first (as he alluded to with Peter). Maybe Nikki/Jessica's husband? Claire's mom (maybe she had help staging her death?)

It can't be the following: Peter, Parkman, Nuclear Man, Sylar, Paige, Painter dude, Hiro, Claire.

Based on the graphic novel, Claire's real mom would be a good guess.

RichRed
02-28-2007, 09:39 AM
Always fun to get an Eric Roberts sighting that's not in a music video.

RFS62
02-28-2007, 06:33 PM
Fantastic episode, for sure.

Johnny Footstool
03-01-2007, 09:53 AM
The smart money says that Hiro's probably a foundling too, and not (Takei's character)'s biological son. Certainly helps explain why his father wasn't all that upset about his son gallivanting across the world on a quest - that Takei didn't grab Hiro's ear and pull him back home when he started going on about his destiny always seemed a little off to me until now.

I figured Takei must have an agenda for letting Hiro run around the USA and play hero.


Malcolm McDowell has been cast as Linderman, btw.

Smashy, smashy!

creek14
03-01-2007, 10:07 AM
So why didn't daddy dearest turn Hiro over to the people that could put the little tracking stuff in him?

Not doing that is what got Claire's papa in trouble.

Johnny Footstool
03-01-2007, 11:49 AM
So why didn't daddy dearest turn Hiro over to the people that could put the little tracking stuff in him?

Not doing that is what got Claire's papa in trouble.

I assumed he's the one in charge, so he gets to break his own rules.

Or maybe he doesn't know about Hiro's powers, and that's a plot point for a future episode -- Hiro versus his daddy?

creek14
03-06-2007, 09:30 AM
April 23? Man, I hate that. Why can't we just have 26 weeks (or whatever amount) of new shows, then go into reruns.

I don't like the new morph woman.

I'm tired of Syler.

zombie-a-go-go
03-06-2007, 09:38 AM
I'm tired of Syler.

I'm tired of Mohinder. For a geneticist, he sure is dumb.

Red Leader
03-06-2007, 09:42 AM
I'm tired of Mohinder. For a geneticist, he sure is dumb.

I agree. Although, like creek, I'm tired of Sylar as well, and I never had any interest in Nikki / Jessica.

Johnny Footstool
03-06-2007, 09:53 AM
I like the shapeshifter, even though she's a straight rip-off of Mystique from the X-men. So far, she's the only character with any kind of playfulness and attitude.

creek14
03-06-2007, 09:54 AM
I like the shapeshifter, even though she's a straight rip-off of Mystique from the X-men. So far, she's the only character with any kind of playfulness and attitude.

But she's mean. Just plain ole mean.


Hey wait, maybe she takes over my body at times...

Johnny Footstool
03-06-2007, 10:41 AM
But she's mean. Just plain ole mean.


Hey wait, maybe she takes over my body at times...

And she *enjoys* being mean for no reason. Do you two share that in common? :)

RFS62
03-06-2007, 10:48 AM
She's mean AND she's hot.

Johnny Footstool
03-06-2007, 10:51 AM
She's mean AND she's hot.

Yeah, she looks like a Neve Campbell clone.

creek14
03-06-2007, 10:52 AM
And she *enjoys* being mean for no reason. Do you two share that in common? :)

I know you meant for that to be a joke, but I'll answer anyway.

Sometimes I am. For instance there are some kids at work who aren't, well cool. And there are some other kids at work who think they are - cool that is. And those guys will pick on the poor nerdy kids. So I'll be mean to the mean ones. Real mean. Mean like only a menopausal woman can be.

And the other day in Barnes and Noble a man wouldn't donate a chocolate bunny to the local children's hospital. Okay, maybe he couldn't afford it. But he was a real jerk about it. "Hell no, why would I want to do that?" So I called him a jerk. To his face. Well not right to his face since he was a good 8 inches shorter than me, but pretty much to his face.

So, yeah. Sometimes I am mean for no reason.

I feel no remorse.

TRF
03-06-2007, 12:14 PM
I like the shapeshifter, even though she's a straight rip-off of Mystique from the X-men. So far, she's the only character with any kind of playfulness and attitude.

Personality, she's Mystique. Powers, she's Mastermind. And she's got a bit of his nastiness too.

Mohinder should have realized that Sylar might have enough to move a tiny lever. that was dumb.

Now an angry Peter vs a crazy Sylar... well that could be interesting.

westofyou
03-11-2007, 06:05 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/sports/baseball/11chass.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&ref=baseball


Randy Wolf sat at his locker in the visiting clubhouse at City of Palms Park here. He wore earphones and was intensely focused on the screen on his computer, which rested on an adjacent chair. A reporter who wanted to talk to Wolf, a Dodgers pitcher, waited nearby but kept his distance out of respect for a man at work, preparing to pitch against the Red Sox.

After about half an hour, Wolf removed the earphones, rose from his chair and headed across the clubhouse. The reporter intercepted him and said, “I wanted to ask you a question, but I didn’t want to interrupt you while you were studying the hitters.”

“I wasn’t studying hitters,” Wolf said. “I was watching ‘Heroes.’ ”

Puffy
04-23-2007, 02:48 PM
Its back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RFS62
04-23-2007, 03:00 PM
Yeah, the last two episodes were awesome.

Can't wait.

HumnHilghtFreel
04-23-2007, 10:03 PM
It's amazing how this show consistently gets better and better. Next week looks like it should be crazy

marcshoe
04-23-2007, 10:12 PM
First week back, and they immediately turn it up one more notch. What came before is now falling into place and leading to a legitimate payoff.

btw, is it just me, or does Malcolm McDowell look much older than he should?

zombielady
04-24-2007, 08:21 AM
It was a wonderful episode... I wanna know what Grandma Petrelli's powers are... And Hiro from the future is teh sexy...

Steve4192
04-24-2007, 08:39 AM
Check out the graphic novel 'String Theory' on NBC.com

It finally gives the reasoning behind 'Save the cheerleader, save the world' and sets up next weeks episode quite nicely.

Also check out the six-part novel 'War Buddies' for information on the background of Linderman and his connection to the Petrellis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Heroes_graphic_novels

Steve4192
04-24-2007, 08:44 AM
I wanna know what Grandma Petrelli's powers are

I want to know whose side she is on and whether she is part of the Linderman plan.

zombielady
04-24-2007, 08:46 AM
I like that, just like in real life, it's really hard to tell who the "bad guys" are

MrsHammer
04-24-2007, 11:05 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else have a hard time liking Nathan? I know he is one of the 'good guys', but he just has the personality of a rock. He sure didn't score any points last night by pretty much telling Claire that his political career comes before her.

zombie-a-go-go
04-24-2007, 11:12 AM
I know he is one of the 'good guys'

I wouldn't count on that.

But he'll have a chance to redeem himself (I think).

Puffy
04-24-2007, 11:26 AM
I wouldn't count on that.

But he'll have a chance to redeem himself (I think).

Yeah, I think its pretty clear that next week's future episode doesn't have Nathan as one of the "good guys"

Steve4192
04-24-2007, 11:32 AM
I know he is one of the 'good guys'

I don't think there are any 'good guys' or 'bad guys' in the traditional sense. The producers have gone out of their way to show the bad side of the every one of the good guys and some of the redeeming qualities of each of the bad guys. IMO, they are purposely avoiding giving any characters an absolute good or evil personality.

Every character is somewhere along the continuum of good and evil, with most of 'em planted firmly in the middle and no one falling on the extreme ends. The lone possible exception is Sylar, who is about as one-dimensional as they come. That probably explains why that character falls flat for a lot of viewers.

TeamBoone
04-24-2007, 11:34 AM
He sure didn't score any points last night by pretty much telling Claire that his political career comes before her.

Yes and no; I have mixed feelings about that.

She has not been a part of his life and it probably would screw up his election chances if the public found out about her. I think it would be different if she'd been in his life all along.

For some reason, perhaps his winning this election is extremely important for more reasons than simply winning the election, if you get my drift.

Yachtzee
04-24-2007, 11:56 AM
I don't think there are any 'good guys' or 'bad guys' in the traditional sense. The producers have gone out of their way to show the bad side of the every one of the good guys and some of the redeeming qualities of each of the bad guys. IMO, they are purposely avoiding giving any characters an absolute good or evil personality.

Every character is somewhere along the continuum of good and evil, with most of 'em planted firmly in the middle and no one falling on the extreme ends. The lone possible exception is Sylar, who is about as one-dimensional as they come. That probably explains why that character falls flat for a lot of viewers.

I'm still waiting to see the good in the chick who alters people's perceptions to allow her to mimic their loved ones. She seems to get too much of a kick out of deceiving people.

zombie-a-go-go
04-24-2007, 12:06 PM
A few other things..

Does Linderman want Micah to screw around with electronic voting machines and rig the election for Nathan? He seemed pretty confident that Nate was going to win this thing even though he's falling behind in the polls.

Also, Linderman's "bad guy" plot is a direct rip from Watchmen. That bummed me out, a little. McDowell's no Ozymandius.

zombielady
04-24-2007, 12:59 PM
And Zombie... I think Peter's scar, that the future Hiro talked about, isn't from Sylar's attack, but from the explosion, which he will survive. Also Isaac's last volume of the comic tells them how to kill Sylar.

CaptainXX
04-24-2007, 01:27 PM
I don't think there are any 'good guys' or 'bad guys' in the traditional sense. The producers have gone out of their way to show the bad side of the every one of the good guys and some of the redeeming qualities of each of the bad guys. IMO, they are purposely avoiding giving any characters an absolute good or evil personality.

Every character is somewhere along the continuum of good and evil, with most of 'em planted firmly in the middle and no one falling on the extreme ends. The lone possible exception is Sylar, who is about as one-dimensional as they come. That probably explains why that character falls flat for a lot of viewers.


The producers have said that Sylar will not end up being totally one-dimensional. We will eventually sympathize with him on some level.

I haven't seen much 'bad' in Claire that I can recall...

MrsHammer
04-24-2007, 02:10 PM
It was a wonderful episode... I wanna know what Grandma Petrelli's powers are... And Hiro from the future is teh sexy...



I'm thinking that Grandma Patrelli and Linderman are 'old friends'. Maybe Nathan and/or Peter could be a result of that.

Steve4192
04-24-2007, 02:18 PM
I'm thinking that Grandma Patrelli and Linderman are 'old friends'. Maybe Nathan and/or Peter could be a result of that.

Read the graphic novel 'War Buddies'. It sheds some light on the connection between Linerman and the Petrellis.

Yachtzee
04-24-2007, 02:27 PM
I'm thinking that Grandma Patrelli and Linderman are 'old friends'. Maybe Nathan and/or Peter could be a result of that.

Well, Linderman does have a healing power. Maybe he gave Grandma Petrelli some, in the words of Marvin Gaye, "Sexual Healing." :evil:

Steve4192
04-24-2007, 04:15 PM
I haven't seen much 'bad' in Claire that I can recall...

How about her attempted vehicular homicide of 'the ever-present football player rapist'?

Yachtzee
04-24-2007, 04:27 PM
How about her attempted vehicular homicide of 'the ever-present football player rapist'?

"Naughty, Naughty, Urkin."

http://hollywoodbackwash.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/borat.jpg

Gamble
04-25-2007, 10:19 AM
My take is that Linderman might want Micah around to possibly fix the tracking device HRG, Matt Parkman, and Ted Sprague are out to destroy. It should be interesting now that Ted Sprague is headed to New York...

zombielady
04-25-2007, 01:29 PM
Question....

Now that Peter has met Sylar, does he now have Sylar's "how things work" power, as well as all of the powers that Sylar has stolen from his victims? :cool:

Peter has GOT to have the coolest power of all!

Puffy
04-25-2007, 02:10 PM
Question....

Now that Peter has met Sylar, does he now have Sylar's "how things work" power, as well as all of the powers that Sylar has stolen from his victims? :cool:

Peter has GOT to have the coolest power of all!

Yes, he should have them all.

But remember Sylar can only take those powers when he opens people up, so that might be useless to Peter. However, any power Sylar has Peter should take

zombielady
04-25-2007, 02:14 PM
Yes, he should have them all.

But remember Sylar can only take those powers when he opens people up, so that might be useless to Peter. However, any power Sylar has Peter should take

Well Peter already has the "borrowed powers" power (yeah...) but Sylar also has the power to see how things work, and how to fix them. Imagine the potential if he meets Linderman... Peter would be THE MAN. And he's already a nurse!

Johnny Footstool
04-30-2007, 01:05 AM
[QUOTE=CaptainHook;1316234]How about her attempted vehicular homicide of 'the ever-present football player rapist'?

That was fairly "bad." Strict "good guys" don't take vengeance on those who wronged them.

Actually, I like the fact that every character is capable of good and bad actions. It makes them more real.

HumnHilghtFreel
04-30-2007, 10:06 PM
First show in a while I've actually felt the need to be on the edge of my seat. I love it.

Johnny Footstool
05-01-2007, 09:58 AM
First show in a while I've actually felt the need to be on the edge of my seat. I love it.

Am I the only one itching to see a prolonged super-powered battle between Peter and Sylar? Their "fight" last week was about 15 seconds long, and this week they faced off with glowing hands, but the scene cut away.

I think Marvel comics has a pretty good claim for intellectual property theft over this week's episode.

DoogMinAmo
05-01-2007, 08:55 PM
Another great episode. When does the season end, I wonder how long they can keep me strung along?

zombielady
05-01-2007, 09:01 PM
Holy moly, was Peter ever hot and stuff? ...Liking the scar...:luvu:

HumnHilghtFreel
05-01-2007, 09:13 PM
Another great episode. When does the season end, I wonder how long they can keep me strung along?

I think only 3 more episodes for the season?

zombielady
05-02-2007, 01:24 PM
I can't wait to see what happens in the 2nd season!

Yachtzee
05-03-2007, 03:26 PM
That wacky Sylar!

creek14
05-08-2007, 01:09 PM
No comments? I was a little disappointed.

They should have had the Syler/mama stuff on a few episodes ago. Would have made him more than the one dimensional guy he is now.

zombielady
05-08-2007, 01:19 PM
Sylar's mommy was Audrey in Little Shop of Horrors.

Well, I mean after last week... you can't really top that. I agree, Creek, that up until now, not nearly enough attention has been paid to developing Sylar as a strong character. I think we'll get to know Sylar a lot better in the next few episodes.:)