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BRM
11-02-2006, 05:19 PM
P Kenny Rogers 5
C Ivan Rodriguez 12
1B Mark Teixeira 2
2B Mark Grudzielanek 1
SS Derek Jeter 3
3B Eric Chavez 6
OF Torii Hunter 6
OF Ichiro Suzuki 6
OF Vernon Wells 3

LINK (http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061102&content_id=1729529&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

Red Leader
11-02-2006, 05:23 PM
Joe Crede doesn't break through at 3B even though Chavez had a down year. That's got to be frustrating. Didn't realize Teixeira was that good with the leather.

Heath
11-02-2006, 05:34 PM
Joe Crede doesn't break through at 3B even though Chavez had a down year. That's got to be frustrating. Didn't realize Teixeira was that good with the leather.

Remember, in Gold Glove doesn't actually mean best fielder. It's mostly "most popular".

BRM
11-02-2006, 05:50 PM
Dial has Crede 4th in his rankings. Jeter is 12th in the AL. Just for fun, he has Hatteberg tagged as the #1 NL First Baseman.

LINK (http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/2006_gold_glove_winners_as_i_see_it/)

Heath
11-02-2006, 07:51 PM
Dial has Crede 4th in his rankings. Jeter is 12th in the AL. Just for fun, he has Hatteberg tagged as the #1 NL First Baseman.

LINK (http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/2006_gold_glove_winners_as_i_see_it/)

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Dom Heffner
11-02-2006, 08:32 PM
The Gold Glove announcement ranks up there with Mr. Blackwell's Worst Dressed list.

I love hearing somebody's resume when it includes these things: All-Star Game MVP, All-Star, or Gold Glove.

Yawn.

blumj
11-02-2006, 08:33 PM
Remember, in Gold Glove doesn't actually mean best fielder. It's mostly "most popular".
That can't be right, A-Rod has 2, and Palmeiro has 3, and no one likes them. Maybe it means most famous.

vaticanplum
11-02-2006, 10:26 PM
That can't be right, A-Rod has 2, and Palmeiro has 3, and no one likes them. Maybe it means most famous.

I'd go with "most showy".

I actually like to watch most of these guys in the field. Best? Meh, probably not, but they're all fun to watch...I don't understand how you can compare players in something not stats-based, they're all so different.

Cedric
11-02-2006, 10:28 PM
I didn't watch all ChiSox games, but the games I did Joe Crede was amazing. Chavez is a great fielder, but I don't see how anyone was better than Crede.

vaticanplum
11-02-2006, 10:32 PM
I didn't watch all ChiSox games, but the games I did Joe Crede was amazing. Chavez is a great fielder, but I don't see how anyone was better than Crede.

I agree, Crede is terrific. He'll win a Gold Glove soon enough, and he'll be in fine shape when he's a free agent too.

vaticanplum
11-02-2006, 10:34 PM
Dial has Crede 4th in his rankings. Jeter is 12th in the AL. Just for fun, he has Hatteberg tagged as the #1 NL First Baseman.

Hatteberg is my favorite first baseman in the whole wide world. You can almost see his thought process: plant, lunge, catch, hooray!!

GoGoWhiteSox
11-03-2006, 01:36 AM
I've always liked Eric Chavez, but honestly, nobody was better in the AL at third this year than Joe Crede. Oh well, maybe next year Joe.:(

jmcclain19
11-03-2006, 02:20 AM
At lunch the last several weeks, since it's been gorgeous outside, I've been grabbing a bite, and sitting in my car with the sunroof down & windows open listening to MLB radio while avoiding the grind.

Today, Kevin Kennedy tried to defend the giving of Gold Gloves to Rafeal Palmerio long after he had become a full time DH, and it was hella painful.

His argument, was that Palmerio was the 2nd best behind Don Mattingly for seemingly forever. And Mattingly always won the Gold Glove. So after he retired, he got a few gimmies as pay backs.

Dumbest argument I've ever possibly heard. And makes me think even worse about the whole Gold Glove Process.

Buster Olney was on XM a few weeks ago, talking about the GG award. Said that he's been in clubhouses, where the ballot was being filled out like so.

Manager - "So 3rd base - who did we see that was real good at 3rd base this year"
Coach - "Scott Rolen - he was real good"
Manager & Staff "Rolen - yeah he's a good choice"
*Writes down Scott Rolen*

The interviewer thought Olney was joking - and he said he only wishes he was.

Stunning, if only we didn't already have that inkling about the award.

buckeyenut
11-03-2006, 06:21 AM
How does Gary Matthews Jr not win a gold glove? Didn't he have a spectacular year defensively?

Jpup
11-03-2006, 07:15 AM
Brandon Inge had a great year as well.

savafan
11-03-2006, 10:38 AM
Kenny Rogers should have gotten the sticky glove award as well

Johnny Footstool
11-03-2006, 10:58 AM
Manager - "So 3rd base - who did we see that was real good at 3rd base this year"
Coach - "Scott Rolen - he was real good"
Manager & Staff "Rolen - yeah he's a good choice"
*Writes down Scott Rolen*


I get the feeling that a lot of GMs have that same discussion with their scouts when looking for players to "improve the team defense."


Dial has Crede 4th in his rankings. Jeter is 12th in the AL. Just for fun, he has Hatteberg tagged as the #1 NL First Baseman.

LINK (http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/dialed_in/discussion/2006_gold_glove_winners_as_i_see_it/)

Really interesting stuff.

Notice how the Oakland defenders with a reputation for good defense (Chavez, Kotsay) didn't rate very well on this system, while those with poor to middling reputations (Crosby, Swisher, Bradley) had pretty high scores.

BRM
11-03-2006, 11:22 AM
Notice how the Oakland defenders with a reputation for good defense (Chavez, Kotsay) didn't rate very well on this system, while those with poor to middling reputations (Crosby, Swisher, Bradley) had pretty high scores.

Did you look at the NL? Lots of guys with defensive reputations rated pretty low there as well. Ausmus, Orlando Hudson, Jack Wilson, Clayton (big surprise :rolleyes: ), and Andruw Jones all rated fairly low for their positions. Griffey rated dead last among centerfielders.

TOBTTReds
11-03-2006, 02:55 PM
Orlando Hudson won the gold glove award given out by Bill James this year in his handbook/Defensive Bible. That should say something.

Also, Jeter!?? Baseball Prospectus writers and staff are taking a day off today to blow off some steam.

Johnny Footstool
11-03-2006, 03:18 PM
Orlando Hudson won the gold glove award given out by Bill James this year in his handbook/Defensive Bible. That should say something.

Also, Jeter!?? Baseball Prospectus writers and staff are taking a day off today to blow off some steam.


I've said it before and I'll say it again: Jeter deserves his gold glove like Elvis deserved his black belt.

TRF
11-03-2006, 04:24 PM
That can't be right, A-Rod has 2, and Palmeiro has 3, and no one likes them. Maybe it means most famous.

1999 Palmeiro wins GG depite playing only 28 games in the field.

28.

biggest


farce


ever.

in 1999 Palmeiro was generally thought of as a great all around guy. Popular player. Viagra spokesman.

Johnny Footstool
11-03-2006, 04:40 PM
Did you look at the NL? Lots of guys with defensive reputations rated pretty low there as well. Ausmus, Orlando Hudson, Jack Wilson, Clayton (big surprise :rolleyes: ), and Andruw Jones all rated fairly low for their positions. Griffey rated dead last among centerfielders.

Austin Kearns rated pretty well, despite being fat, lazy, slovenly, and all the other sour grape names people here called him.

BRM
11-03-2006, 04:42 PM
Austin Kearns rated pretty well, despite being fat, lazy, slovenly, and all the other sour grape names people here called him.

I noticed that. I think he was 4th among RF'ers. Not bad for a guy with no work ethic.

Ravenlord
11-03-2006, 05:05 PM
i guess the writers felt really sorry for Mark Grudzielanek this year.

savafan
11-03-2006, 05:32 PM
i guess the writers felt really sorry for Mark Grudzielanek this year.

Somebody has to

TOBTTReds
11-03-2006, 07:27 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Jeter deserves his gold glove like Elvis deserved his black belt.

nm