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Ltlabner
11-07-2006, 10:45 PM
They say timing is everything....

What players do you think ended their carears at the exact right time so they went out with class and "at the right time"? What makes you think this?

Conversely...

What players do you think hung on a little too long? What makes you think this?

Will M
11-07-2006, 10:52 PM
Went out gracefully:

Jim Rice and Dale Murphy had ~10 great years then lost it about age 33. Instead of hanging on to pad stats they retired gracefully.
And because of this they don't have the magic numbers for the hall of fame.

Paul Molitor and Dave Winfield had productive years on winning teams late in their careers then retired gracefully.



Hung on too long:

Wade Boggs hung on as a singles hitter to get his 3000th hit.

Degenerate39
11-07-2006, 10:54 PM
Probably Ted Williams since he left for the war he was trying to get back lost time.

westofyou
11-08-2006, 12:09 AM
Al Kaline

harangatang
11-08-2006, 01:26 AM
Seriously, no Junior? Before he came to Cincinnati it looked like he could reach 800 HR (you know his story).

GoGoWhiteSox
11-08-2006, 02:33 AM
Speaking of players that are/were hanging around, whatever happened to Fred McGriff? I swear he fell off of the face of the earth!

RFS62
11-08-2006, 07:52 AM
Willie Mays hung on too long.

http://www.achievement.org/achievers/may0/large/may0-031.jpg

RFS62
11-08-2006, 07:54 AM
The Bambino hung on too long


http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers_and_honorees/baberuth/images/ruth_braves.jpg

cumberlandreds
11-08-2006, 10:07 AM
I think Johnny Bench went out at about the right time. If he had wanted to play a couple of more seasons I think he would have been productive. Conversely Pete Rose hung on too long. He should have retired the day he broke Cobb's record. He wasn't even a shadow of himself his last season.

Unassisted
11-08-2006, 10:10 AM
Seriously, no Junior? Before he came to Cincinnati it looked like he could reach 800 HR (you know his story).

IMO, this is about age catching up with a player, not injuries. Injuries caught up with Junior before age did.

I'd put Barry Larkin in the "hung in there too long" category.

texasdave
11-08-2006, 10:11 AM
I'm thinking that Albert Pujols guy is hanging on wayyy too long. It's about time for him to go. :)

Johnny Footstool
11-08-2006, 10:24 AM
Larkin's last season was pretty impressive -- good enough to erase the memory of his injury-marred 2001 and 2003 and his terrible 2002.

Heath
11-08-2006, 10:30 AM
The Bambino hung on too long


http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers_and_honorees/baberuth/images/ruth_braves.jpg

Wade Boggs -

http://www.tbt.com/multimedia/archive/00029/tbd_sportstalk081406_29233d.jpg

Or anyone on the 2000 Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Here are some names "holding on"

Fred McGriff
Jose Canseco
Ozzie Guillen
a washed up Vinny Castilla (pre-rejunivation)
Greg Vaughn
Doc Gooden

Degenerate39
11-08-2006, 01:33 PM
I forgot Mickey Mantle and Rickey Henderson

CaiGuy
11-08-2006, 01:53 PM
Rickey Henderson

Rickey is a prime example of hanging on to long.

Wasn't he playing for a minor league team a year or two ago?

Degenerate39
11-08-2006, 03:04 PM
Rickey is a prime example of hanging on to long.

Wasn't he playing for a minor league team a year or two ago?

He was playing for the same team as Canseco

texasdave
11-08-2006, 03:55 PM
how about that 80-something guy that got an at-bat in the minors this year....???

Handofdeath
11-08-2006, 04:43 PM
Went out gracefully:

Jim Rice and Dale Murphy had ~10 great years then lost it about age 33. Instead of hanging on to pad stats they retired gracefully.
And because of this they don't have the magic numbers for the hall of fame.

Paul Molitor and Dave Winfield had productive years on winning teams late in their careers then retired gracefully.



Hung on too long:

Wade Boggs hung on as a singles hitter to get his 3000th hit.


I disagree about Murphy. After he went to the Phillies in 1990 it should have been obvious that he was through. He didn't retire until 1993. He was a great player for about five years but he did not sustain it. No Hall of Fame for him. He wasn't good enough for long enough. Jim Rice is an example of how stupid sportswriters are. If Orlando Cepeda and Tony Perez are in he should be too. His numbers compare favorably to both.

dfs
11-08-2006, 04:45 PM
Rickey is a prime example of hanging on too long.

I don't see it that way at all. You're welcome to give Rickey all the crap you want for him being a selfish jerk and all that, but the guy was a ballplayer first and foremost, that's what he wanted to do. In an era when all that seems to motivate players is cash, Rickey wanted to play ball. He played ball till they told him he couldn't. In some strange way, I respect that.

paulrichjr
11-08-2006, 05:04 PM
Julio Franco should have retired at 54 instead of hanging around to 61.

Handofdeath
11-08-2006, 05:13 PM
Julio Franco should have retired at 54 instead of hanging around to 61.

I know you're making a joke but baseball-reference.com says he is 47. It also says he is Dominican. So he might actually be 61.

LINEDRIVER
11-08-2006, 10:16 PM
Reggie Jackson probably hung around a bit too long. In his 21st and final major league season in 1987, Jackson hit .220 and whiffed 87 times in 336 AB's for the Oakland A's.

Harmon Killebrew led the AL in HR's six times from 1959-1969. He clobbered 393 HR's in the 1960's. After playing 21 seasons with the Washington Senators and the Minnesota Twins, he played a 22nd season with the Kansas City Royals in 1975. Killebrew hit just .199 in 312 AB's, primarily as a designated-hitter.