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Krusty
11-10-2006, 07:39 PM
Would you deal the Reds best pitching prospect Homer Bailey in a deal to Florida for LHP Dontrelle Willis?

If the Reds offered a packaged deal of Denorfia, Bailey and Coffey for Willis, would you do it knowing that a big three of Willis, Arroyo and Harang would give the Reds its best starting staff in recent years.

Just want to hear your opinions.

RedsManRick
11-10-2006, 07:43 PM
I wouldn't. A career WHIP of 1.30 and a career of pitching in a pitcher friendly stadium with a plus defense tells me not to trade the best pitching prospect in the minors for a guy who's cheap years are behind him.

Would I love to have Dontrelle Willis on my team? Without a doubt. But if I'm gonna pay him 12+MM per by the time the ink is dry on a contract extention, why not just go out and spend that money in free agency and keep my in house talent?

BEETTLEBUG
11-10-2006, 07:43 PM
No

Spitball
11-10-2006, 07:59 PM
When the Reds were in contention during the season, I would have done the deal. Now, I wouldn't trade Bailey unless some other dynamic moves can assure another contending team.

westofyou
11-10-2006, 08:11 PM
USA Today is trumpeting a better deal

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/bbw/2006-11-07-suggested-trades_x.htm


Dontrelle Willis to Mets

(The deal: Mets get LHP Dontrelle Willis. Marlins get OF Lastings Milledge, RHP Aaron Heilman, LHP Royce Ring.)

thatcoolguy_22
11-10-2006, 08:25 PM
USA Today is trumpeting a better deal

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/bbw/2006-11-07-suggested-trades_x.htm

All monumental trade offered by the Mets aside, I would. I remember a scout on this site throwing a number something like 4 of 18 curveballs for strikes and 50 of 75 pitches being fastballs? I will say it again, proven major league talent (that is still young by the way) over a prospect everytime! Would you have traded Brandon Larson before he hit the majors for a young Javier Vazquez? You would have been in the minority at the time considered Vazquez was only 9-8 in 99 but he was still in the majors and coming on strong down the stretch. IMHO

George Foster
11-11-2006, 12:22 AM
Homer for Brandon Webb...straight up trade...:thumbup:

Aronchis
11-11-2006, 12:27 AM
All monumental trade offered by the Mets aside, I would. I remember a scout on this site throwing a number something like 4 of 18 curveballs for strikes and 50 of 75 pitches being fastballs? I will say it again, proven major league talent (that is still young by the way) over a prospect everytime! Would you have traded Brandon Larson before he hit the majors for a young Javier Vazquez? You would have been in the minority at the time considered Vazquez was only 9-8 in 99 but he was still in the majors and coming on strong down the stretch. IMHO


That wasn't a scout, that was TC mumbling something he "heard" a scout say about a Bailey start. Though, if you want to look at his curve/fastball combo working, his last real full start of last year is a good example of that.

SteelSD
11-11-2006, 12:52 AM
Homer for Brandon Webb...straight up trade...:thumbup:

I'd be far more than just OK with that. In fact, I'd be so OK with that I'd offer any other two prospects (their choice) from our minor league system plus Bailey.

dougdirt
11-11-2006, 12:57 AM
Not a chance.

forfreelin04
11-11-2006, 01:45 AM
Can Willis roam centerfield too? I know he can hit.

Team Clark
11-12-2006, 01:26 PM
That wasn't a scout, that was TC mumbling something he "heard" a scout say about a Bailey start. Though, if you want to look at his curve/fastball combo working, his last real full start of last year is a good example of that.

Mumbling something? Hmmm

Actually it was our Scouting Director who was beginning his year end round up when he saw Homer in that game. He also saw Homer pitch a start or two later where Homer showed "some" progression.

BTW Homer Bailey is right where he needs to be in this stage of his career. Pitching, learning and building confidence.

Patrick Bateman
11-12-2006, 06:57 PM
I'd be far more than just OK with that. In fact, I'd be so OK with that I'd offer any other two prospects (their choice) from our minor league system plus Bailey.

Bailey, Bruce, and Votto seems like a big price to pay for Webb.

He is the exact guy that the Reds should target, but he's going to get very expensive very quickly. With a payroll that's going to be no higher than 75M, the Reds can't afford to deal the only talent they have in the minors, while adding any payroll flexibility the Reds have.

Hey Meat
11-12-2006, 09:04 PM
I would deal him in a heartbeat for the D train. Not only can he pitch, he can go yard. We need another solid starter now, not 3 years from now.

Falls City Beer
11-12-2006, 09:19 PM
Bailey, Bruce, and Votto seems like a big price to pay for Webb.


I'd make that deal fourteen times every hour for three or four weeks. And I'd drive to Arizona to pick Webb up and bring him to Cincy--even if it meant listening to Eddie Money cas-singles the whole way.

I'd try to weasel my way out of having to give up Bruce, but I'd cave pretty quickly.

Krusty
11-13-2006, 08:37 PM
I'd make that deal fourteen times every hour for three or four weeks. And I'd drive to Arizona to pick Webb up and bring him to Cincy--even if it meant listening to Eddie Money cas-singles the whole way.

I'd try to weasel my way out of having to give up Bruce, but I'd cave pretty quickly.

But if you're Arizona, would you deal your ace for three prospects? Not a good way to sell tickets for the upcoming season.

M2
11-13-2006, 08:48 PM
Dontrelle Willis has won a World Series ring, a rookie of the year award, been a Cy Young runner up, has thrown 817.1 IP in his four big league seasons, has a 3.44 career ERA and a 120 ERA+, he just placed 5th among all MLB starters in the recent Elias Sports Bureau rankings and he'll turn 25 shortly after the New Year.

So, no, I'd want nothing to do with a guy like that.

Degenerate39
11-14-2006, 01:45 PM
For D-Train yes